Witchersunited:
ordinary OPC we all saw how bad that got, bulk of the cults in the south west are core opc members, if each state want to form their own vigilante its ok but regional is tribalistic, what happens when each zone starts doing it? Who is in charge of the so called units? When they go rouge with guns, who will call them to order, the states pushing this agenda can't even pay salaries

Is it this ones they will be able to pay, everybody is using sentiments to reason, Nigerians love distractions, this is keeping you busy forgetting that even with opc then, bad things still happened, this so called unit will only cause more harm than good

Let the states push forward the funds they have and let the police force recruit more police men and spread them there but this method is going to divide Nigeria, check points checking and robbing people, I can write up 100 pages of faults that will come from this.

If 35,000 police officer can’t secure the election of Kogi state then how many numbers of police will do ? When you say recruit more police. If you have that much number in an election and they failed to protect the ballot. Then how many numbers of police can ever be able to secure a state ?

Witchersunited:
ordinary OPC we all saw how bad that got, bulk of the cults in the south west are core opc members, if each state want to form their own vigilante its ok but regional is tribalistic, what happens when each zone starts doing it? Who is in charge of the so called units? When they go rouge with guns, who will call them to order, the states pushing this agenda can't even pay salaries

Is it this ones they will be able to pay, everybody is using sentiments to reason, Nigerians love distractions, this is keeping you busy forgetting that even with opc then, bad things still happened, this so called unit will only cause more harm than good

Let the states push forward the funds they have and let the police force recruit more police men and spread them there but this method is going to divide Nigeria, check points checking and robbing people, I can write up 100 pages of faults that will come from this.

Let Nigeria divide if need be. Our people can’t be dying for nothing because we want one Nigeria. Human lives are very important to us in the SouthWest. The police and army gone rogue already. Everyone saw what happened in Kogi Election where they use helicopters to distrupt elections and scare voters away and they never use same helicopters to chase criminals. A lot of people die last year in SW and the police will say they will fish out the killers but that will be the last thing you will hear from them, they won’t do anything. We all know the case about Wadume, he hasn’t been sentence yet. Nepotism in the highest level when you have army chief Nothern, minister for police affair Nothern, IGP Nothern, Air Force Chief Nothern, Custom boss Notherner. And how do you think this heads of security chiefs will care more about people from the SW?

Witchersunited:
Maybe it's me or somtin

Do people bother to check things

The crisis affects the north more, they kill their own people more than Christians


I'm not a Muslim but Christians over do things


False alarm and panic everywhere, see south west that nothing happens to talking about regional Police, how many people died in South West? Look at the case well and u will see that the vigilante group is a tribal affair, benue that has suffered alot aren't even talking about policing, it's Lagos with only 5 deaths

Look at the way human being is talking. Must anyone even die in the first place. It’s really sad that abnormality is now becoming norms in our society. This government promised Nigerians security and we are not getting that. In a sane Cline they are suppose to have resign themselves. They failed. One Nigeria is not suppose to die for nothing. They still spend money on this killers and kidnappers and bringing them back to the society. How will they ever stop when they know last last that when they get caught they will still be rehabilitated and integrated back to the society.

Patrioticman007:
"If I, say O. You say P. Another man say C, omo na you sabi, dem kill man plenty man oooo, for inside Ajegule"
Above is a qoute from a, Human Right Activists, called African China.

These tribal warriors killed many innocents Nigerians, then in the name of O.P.C in many parts of western Nigeria. I think Igbo's suffered the most. If yesterday mistakes are repeated today in the name of Amotekun then, we have to fear the future, because 90% of these Amotekuns recruits are from O.P.C militia groups. The Fulani herdsmen's will surely vacate Western while the criminals will continue their evils acts, for crimes has no personal tribe . what will be, after the herdsmen's have left ?. Will Amotekun ceased to exist or will they find another enemy in Igbo tribe ?.
We need answers please.

If you like dig more and more out. It’s not by force for Nigeria to stay together. With the nepotism going on in the country we are already divided. We need to restructure Nigeria and let each state feeds itself. They will be more creative that way; not this one they some Nothern man will just be giving birth to kids and waiting for money from the south to feed there kids and still raise some of those kids to terrorize us.

ityP:



Lies. Na the top problem dey. Yorubas are afraid of Igbos.

Whatever you say, I won’t play tribalism game with you. Am far better than that. I do business with Igbos and Yoruba and am cool with both tribe. I don’t care who rules but I just don’t want another Notherner to draw us back anymore.

BuhariLooter:
I believe yorubas are educated, knows and understands the law.

Then why setting up an outfit or doing something that contravenes the law.

You can come to others during such period and be quoting Nigerian law for them and sovereignty of Nigerian.

Now you want to abuse same unity you guys always shield like an egg.



The outcome of security meeting with Buhari is simple from the tone which is that Buhari is technically supporting Malami's stance that Amotekun is illegal and won't stand.

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Only the court of law has the power to declare if Amotekun is legal or not. Not Malami that just became SAN not too long . People that has SAN before him says it’s legal and nothing wrong with protecting your people. It’s not even debatable. Is like you bringing a gun to rub me and I was able to find a matchet to cut off your hand. I didn’t commit any offense but that of self defense.

Dpharisee:
With the raging controversy of Amotekun, the issue of who gets the 2023 presidency is no longer critical, even the South East is not desperate for 2023 Presidency as long as SW can produce a fearless leader who will not be subservient to the northern oligarchs, a leader who will be fair to all and guarantee level playing field for all citizens, no nepotism or tribalism.

Igbos don't hate Yorubas that's why we voted Obasanjo against our own people who contested as Vice President to Buhari, neither do we hate Fulani which was why we voted for Yar'adua.
Amotekun seems to be gradually removing the agelong fear of the North in the minds of the average Yoruba. Amotekun will be made up of Yorubas who know the terrain very against attacks from herdsmen marauders committing mass murder and occupying communities and this is a threat to sinister motives by some northern elites who have promised to fulfill Danfodio mandate of taking the Koran from the northern desert and dipping it inside the Atlantic Ocean.

Very well said. Am a Yoruba and I don’t have problem voting an Igbo man cos you guys are very industrious. We need people than can move our economy forward. Good thinkers. Igbo-Yoruba don’t have problem at the top I only see that on this Nairaland page.

TallPck1:
The senators, governors and other top government officials go about with police escort and the people are kidnapped, raped and killed.

They decide to form a security force to protect them and you termed it illegal and threaten them with presidency 2023.

This is to tell ebery reasonable Nigerians that leadership in Nigeria is just for selfish interest. Since Tinubu has gone ghost mode.

Just be calm and be watching that Tinubu, he will be embarrassed very soon. He thinks he has Yoruba in his pocket , but he will be disgraced by the Yoruba’s and embarrassed by the Notherners.

ignis:


What is the function of the police and civil defense ?

Collecting bribes on the road and police station.

3Ceagle:


Can you tell me the part of my comment that is contrary to what you have outlined above. May be you should check my others comment on this issue, it might give you a better insight to what i have said about amotekun and federalism.

Am sorry, I must have misunderstood you.

engrelvis:
what has opc achieved apart from their leaders using it as a money making tools? My brother if nt for civilian JTF n army bokoharam wud v been at our doorstep .what Nigerian need is orientation discipline n equipment for our security forces otherwise DAT same thing making dem ineffective will also affect dis new group. Abi nor b Nigerians dey wan recruit?tinubu is d main kingpin of APC what has he done to curb security in d south? What we want to create is ethnic militia

The OPC are he ones that work together with some military forces to fish out the badoo boys killing and rubbing citizens in Ikorodu. Also, President Jonathan gave the OPC contract to secure oil pipeline in Lagos and they did a good job securing the pipelines. We never hear vandalism in Lagos like we hear now. The OPC are also part of the neighborhood night watch securing Lagos at night. They are also mostly hired for vigilante duties and also the police have been working with them locally to make arrest and to get intel and info. Tinubu, is just a politician and not a Yoruba Oba or representative. He is only after his own selfish interest. So, that one doesn’t count on anything. He don’t have a say for any Yoruba and he only has one vote like you and I. We need to stop making some old corrupt men feel like hero.

3Ceagle:


Discuss like adults is the last thing you will get on this platform. People who support or oppose without objectivity or rationality.

The issue of Amotekun is just blown out of proportions. The issues and fears been raised will be taken care of and necessary legislation will be put in place. Let practise federalism the way it should be for the development of our country. Having layers of policing is part of federalism. All this bickering is unnecessary if we are sincere.

Am sure you don’t even have an idea how true federalism is run. The Federal government is just an over seer. Under federalism the state governors are the chief security of there states. Under federalism the states makes money and send it to federal government and he shares them according back to the states. Under federalism the President and governor have equal right to policing I.e the police are being shared by the states and the President but inlike ours if you call police for some emergency they will still have to inform Abuja for authorization. How can a criminal commit an offense in Lagos and be transferred to Abuja because he is a Notherner and they can help negotiate his release there. Go check how other countries run true federalism before coming here to talk about what you have no idea of.

erosimo:


Permit me to help you here. An opinion of minister of justice can not declare a constituted authority illegal, only a competent court of law can do that.
Thank you

Thank you for schooling the over sabi mugun.

engrelvis:
And u think dis group can stop dat?d reason civilian JTF is succeeding is because northerners are more cooperative n united dan southerners.We r traitors..

I have never seen Yoruba’s being united like this time. The APC and the PDP are united on Amotekun, the past governors irrespective of there political party are united on this, the Oba’s and so on are united on this. When it comes to life of people; it’s not negotiable.

ignis:
Amotekun wil not see the light of the day

Amotekun has already seen the light of the day. Pray you see more light of the day. Seeing people being killed and kidnapped and you feel comfortable about it. Don’t let me pray you or your family be a victim of any of this mischief .

abu12:
it is only Yoruba people that can divide this country, please they should tread softly with their amotekun or what ever they call it.

I see no harm in the country dividing. We are already divided when you have the Chief of Army from the North, Police, Chief of air, defense, Custom, NPA and so on. People from the South are being marginalized already. It’s either we divide the country or we restructure. If you check private enterprise you hardly see and Hausa man there, they are not as employable has people from the South and they are now the ones are the realm of the affairs of a nation like Nigeria. They really don’t have the idea to take us out of this economical and security crisis.

allthingsgood:


Nobody is fearing anything. Constitution doesn't give powers to any region to form vigilante. Amotekun is unconstitutional and illegal

Besides if not that Nigerians are too stupidly short-sighted with extensive memory loss, haven't we been down this road before How did bakassi, opc vigilante etc end?? By the time the amotekun realise their power and turn on the citizens, it's the same people that will be crying for fg to save them

Is it constitutional to release murders and kidnappers back to the society ? The Federal government is not ready to do anything about this terrorist group. The sent the 1000 chad soldiers away because they are being ruthless on the terrorist. We all are aware how this insurgence has been happening daily since the chad army left. This whole thing is all for money. Let the Amotekun realize there power first. OPC have been around for more than 10 years and they don’t harass innocent citizens like your Nigerian army and Police do. Get sense bro, don’t allow your self to be fooled by all this stipends , this small money can cause you harm.

allthingsgood:
Dead on arrival. Amotekun is unlawful and illegal, period.

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And killing and kidnapping innocent citizen is legal, also releasing killers and kidnappers back to the society is constitutional. I pray you get sense. And I pray that stipends you are being paid will bring you untimely death.

BuhariLooter:
Why did the Oyoruba governors not seek legislature backing from their respective state assemblies when setting up the vigilante movement?

Malami will argue that Sharia and Hisbah came about through legislation by the state assemblies.

Are the current crop of Oyoruba governors so daft not to know that laws created at state level can not be overruled by the FG?

Why did Malami not declare Fayose's anti grazing bill and the security outfit he setup to enforce the law illegal?

Yaribanza, your APC governors are mocking you and were only using this Amotekun as political leverage. They are not interested nor concerned about your safety.

Where are the cows

The APC and the PDP Governor are united on this one. Have never seen Yoruba’s this united for a very long time. This anti Amotekun is uniting Yoruba once again. The Afenifere initially didn’t support the Amotekun but they started supporting when Malami criticizes the security outfit. For me, this is uniting Yoruba’s and even also the Igbo’s at the top level because they also are supporting this . There leaders are already making move to create there own outfit and even Nnamdi Kanu is in support too. Even the South South region already decorated there support. This is good for Nigeria and Nigerians apart from people in the North and those being paid stipends to always defense the evil government that feels comfortable to only pay condolences when bad things happen and will never find a way to avert it.

BuhariAdvocate:
The problem i have with amotekun is Afenifere that want to hijack the structure. And some terrorist group that supporting the establishment of amotekun. The same kanu that gave order to his followers to kill Yoruba people same kanu declare support for operation amotekun, it look suspicious.

I don’t understand what’s looking suspicious in this movement. The security of life and property should be the goal of any meaningful government but he Federal government has failed us. I am really happy this is happening now. Afenifere criticize this AMOTEKUN on his launching and they started supporting when that Malami made that statement. Malami and the Miyeti Allah group have helped YORUBA’s to unit once again. I have never seen when PDP and APC have a common goal in SW for a long time but now even the APC and PDP and the Afenifere and the OPC and the Aare Onakankaofo, and the Oba’s like Oni and even the past Governors of SW irrespective of there party are in support of this. This is a good time for the Yoruba’s. The only person we haven’t hear a word from is Tinubu . But who cares , is not even a Yoruba figure or representative anywhere . And whatever his ambition his am sure he will be a failure .

PreciousJuice:
Don't be carried away with the political atmosphere.

You call fighting for the security of your environment political atmosphere? The safety of human being is what you are giving this name. May God save us from evil people. AMEN

PreciousJuice:
Useless man, element of confusion, audio advocate, chop and clean mouth yeye man
Why trying so hard to cause problem, have u enlighten people on the requirements of the law for such establishment, have u told your followers how hisbah in kano struggle, better don't let this mumu kayode push una to war, he is arguing an illegal case, and I'm sure all he's doing is audio, he won't go to war with u, don't mind such bias personality.
The Federal Government have not said it will arrest anyone, don't be used by political vultures like KAYODE.

In as much as am not a fan of Fani Kayode , I stand with him on this one. Someone need to take a stand and bully those Miyeti Allah set of people, Am sure you are aware of it when Miyeti Allah said SW will loose the 2023 presidency if they go ahead with the Amotekun , am also sure you heard when Miyeti Allah said the Federal government should arrest Yoruba Elders but you don’t see anything against those words of threat. Last last we will restructure Nigeria or divide the country for good. We need to start protecting ourselves because Nigerian Federal government has failed everyone from the North to East to South. People keep dying every day and nothing is done. Kidnapping on the increase , herders clashes with farmer and the Herders are being protected by the Fulani Cline. Please wake up brother . The killing is already going on one by one and that’s worse than facing it once at a time.

9jii:

These are jus d things you choose to see and believe.
That doesn't mean you are right or close to saying what's true.

Yeah, you are right, that's my personal opinion. I believe we all have the right to see things the way we want to. But at the end of it all, I believe all we want is good governance and security for the people of our country. I believe that should be a common goal no matter our individual believes. I will say this politician are just almost the same either APC or PDP. We just need to constantly demand good governance and security for all.

id4sho:
ÀMỌ̀TẸ́KÙN simply means ARMOURED TROOPS.
MILITIAS in disguise.
Never will it happen, its dead on arrival. Exact replica of OPC of yesteryears. Bombing upandan, harassment here and there. Abegi

Be Guided

How much are they paying you this person for this kind of statement? Do you feel the security of life is arguable? All the killings that happened in 2019 the government did nothing about it. They always say we will investigate and nothing is done. We all know about the Wadume's case. He confessed the crime with his mouth and yet he hasn't been sentenced. Some rumor going round says he is a free man already and they call him to show up when the need him. He is not sentenced and we all know that for sure, the killing of the elder statesman daughter. The police promise to fish out those behind the killings and till now no one is in jail for that. We see police abusing and killing Nigerian citizens every day and nothing is done. And you say Amotekun is dead on arrival , go and kill it ok. It's meant to stay.

9jii:
Topical PDP type of governing leaving the important aims of being in power by creating divisions to sway the people attention to politics of hatred.

Currently in the South-Western Nigeria Makinde is the best performing governor as of this moment. That Lagos governor shot is mouth and won't say anything concerning the security of the people he governs. I believe strongly Lagos will soon need a change of government. AM not a fan of any political party in Nigeria but I believe it's when another party handles Lagos that we can finally know what Lagos worth. Lagos's economy has grown like 3 times more than when the Military governor Maruwa was in power and we all know and still enjoy the things Maruwa does for Lagos. To whom much is given, more is expected.

Justinlean02:
I've been waiting for his comment more than anything cause now the SW will know the true nature of politicians and their dirty desire of self-centered,greed filled ambition
Hoping he comes through for them in the end...
On the other Note:
Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba and other ethnicity in our beloved Naija it's time to put the hating and tribalism aside, our generation needs to grow further away from such mentality instilled in us through colonialism and dirty politics. If we continue as we have all these years those politicians will never be held accountable. We're practicing Democracy and have failed woefully as learned folks to know that true power belongs to all of us not the few thief's claiming to run our nation...
it's time we stand as ONE or get squashed like scattered ants

Good one, I really pray our people to get rid of this tribalism game and start voting for people with positive potential into power and also stop fighting for these politicians, they are all same. The senators unite up there when they want to extort our money but divide us below so we won't form alliance to fight against them. When we fight each other we all are loosing and giving this corrupt politician more room to steal our commonwealth. The politicians of today have forgotten that they are called to serve Nigerians, they are now serving themselves. I just pray that this our generation will one day rise beyond ethnicity and religious differences and unite to get rid of this old corrupt politicians.

It is really sad that in the year 2020 we young Nigerians keep fighting and exchanging words over tribes and not exchanges words on how to make the world a better place for ourselves. We have been brainwashed by the past generation to follow this ethnicity thing. I believe the most important thing to know is that we only have one race which is the Human race. I just hope someday out generation we start making moves to lift this black nation out of poverty than going the same route that our fathers went and put us all in this mess. We should learn to do better than them, we can't be doing the same thing and expecting a different result. We don't challenge each other about creative ideas that can make life worth more living for us all but we focus on the least important thing which is the tribe. The whites are the ones that divided us all, we are all suppose to be brothers if not for religion and this tribal thing they used against us.

Coldie:
Yoruba's want use there hand destroy there chance of 2023 presidency.

Well its a win win for the south south and Amaechi

Lol, for you presidency means sacrificing the lives of your people ? Just sit back and enjoy the ride cos very soon the federal power will be cut short. Nigeria will be restructured and if you people like you can hold to presidency forever. Nobody cares. The state will make its own money and spend his own money and not giving all back to the Federal government. Under true Federalism the Federal government is just a caretaker

femmy2010:
I am Yoruba and I am sure Mr Yinka Odumakin, is not speaking for me.
The governments should have done it right and prove to us they are doing it right.
We do not know how the Amotekun operatives were engaged/employed
we do not know how much they are paid etc.
Just imagine of Amotekun in the hands of politicians. May God help us.

You are not a Yoruba. The security and lives of the citizen is the number rule and goal of every government. SW governors will not come to your house and tell you how Amotekun operatives were engaged. Same way the police and military won’t tell any Nigeria how they engage there forces. They don’t even let us know how they spend the money on defense. Amotekun is for SW internal security and give them time to work before castigating them. The federal government and states have been using police and army for election long ago already. But that doesn’t bother you but Amotekun’s own bothers you. Please say something else abeg, Amotekun is here to stay if you don’t want it, feel free to go hug transformer or run back to the North were you will feel safe in the hands of banditry, herdsmen and the Boko boyz.

Sunnymatey:
You must be alive first before aspiring to become a president.
If the terrorist succeed to kill all in SW, who then becomes the president.

In 2020, one tribe will kill another tribe of SW that’s impossible. Even the ICC will get involve. The world is a global village now.

PerfectlyPerfect:
I can't see any law backing Hisbah police too.

Has anyone noticed that, unlike previous months, the number of people opposing this government on threads on front page has increased.
I'm guessing they've reduced the salary of our Nairaland resident zombies

That’s true. I thought I was the only one noticing this. I just hope they don’t regret the defensive work they are going for a failed government. I can’t even trust the founder of this forum self because the way the moderators promotes this set of guys.

Basher8583:


The question you will ask yourself is how did the DSS know that Hannas number had been assigned to someone else if he hadn't used it for a dubious act.
I hope his lawyers have explained to him what perjury is. It wont end well for him if discovered he did not acurately state what lead to his arrest in his case file

He don’t have to commit crime before the DSS figure out the Hannas number is active. All the first family details as they called them are with the DSS all there numbers and address home and abroad. The number must have been dormant for a while and soon as you come online with that number the DSS will know and they know the girl in question is in the UK for studies. Definitely it’s easy to figure out someone else might be using the sim already. It’s easy to track someone with the number they use to go on the internet. That’s not a difficult thing to do at al.