Afamed:

Keep quiet. These crooks are purely Money mongers Afenifebi. The real Afenifere died long time ago with Pa Abraham Adesanya, Chief Bola Ige. The Present Afenifebi , with Odumaki are bunch of highest bidder. Immediately Amoteku was launched 3 weeks ago, they went on air that Amoteku can't kill a chicken . What has suddenly changed now with Amoteku if not that the Afenifebi are bunch of confused elements

I really don’t know why anyone is arguing about Afenifere, sometimes we choose to argue over the less important thing and leave the important part of it put. Amotekun came as a result of police failure. It’s meant to secure life and properties of every Nigerian in the SouthWest. There is nothing as much as important as life of citizens and if the federal government doesn’t take that seriously the SW are taking it seriously. Imagine a president saying he is surprised that bokoharam and this bandit are still attacking. He sits in his comfort there and don’t care about us.

Subzero047:
Amotekun is an organization founded against Muslims

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And Governor Oyetola is a Muslim. Why is it hard for you people to verify a news before believing. That’s why one pastor’s wife said Nigerians are myopic.

edoairways:
He raised some valid points such as registration of security officers via birth certificate from the church.

Which truth , how do you verify what he is saying is true. Someone from no where will just say something and people will choose to believe without making any verification. We have Osun state Governor as a Muslim and you people are just believing all this old men that will do anything to cause division between us. This is all what there set knows how to do. Those men have failed us.

jaxxy:


The Truth is no government is perfect bt I think his situation has gotten out of hand. Vp’s anywhere in the world don’t go contrary to the president and most times are reserved, even sambo was reserved under Jonathan and Jonathan was super reserved under yaradua so Osinbajo can not be Called out singly.

Also no vp not even atiku in the heat of issues with obasanjo has resigned their position in our history. I just think Osinbajo shud manage the situation better.

You are right , he should have managed the situation a lot better. I had so much respect for him but at a time you have to say something even if it hurts some people. You are right no VP ever resigns in Nigeria, but if we want to achieve something different then we need to start doing something new. If we continue doing the same thing over and over again we will continue getting the same result. It's about time we put our selfish interest aside and put other people's interest in our hearts too.

If Osibanjo stood for the right course and say if we don't do things the right way then accept my resignation, am sure he will be more celebrated than Jonathan in this country and beyond and the possibility of him winning election in another political party like PDP is high cos he will be the first-ever Nigerian that stood for people's interest instead of his personal greed.

jaxxy:
The problem with Osibanjo isn’t that he isn’t a competent or honest person bt that he works for very dishonest people or people in variance to his ideology and concepts so his wud be good work/intentions and speeches always seems ridiculous, naive or at best hypocritical. It’s quite sad

If osibanjo ran the government himself under no cabal or Godfather this country wud be greater by now.

U can not speak on behalf of hypocrites or liars and sound genuine.

He should have pulled out when he realize those that he is working with and working for don’t mean the best for average Nigerians. He is already assumed to be part of them, he saw the injustice done in the court to Sowore and said nothing. The killing of herdsmen and bokoharam yet he kept his mouth shut like he is not concerned. What about the Amotekun issue he kept quiet , even the killing of the CAN in Adamawa he had to wait for Buhari to comment before saying anything about it. He already got his hands dirty.

Abegnovex123:


Laudable... A people-centric manifesto.

And poverty rate keeps on the increase. Sad.

CaptainStephen:
Hi,no I am not, but you guys are only been sensational whilst ignoring crucial demands which should have been met by the brass and government.
The military is not for the faint hearted and I this occcurance took place when troops were on an expedition in a far remote area unfortunately supplies came late.
I can say further than that.

Yeah , they are military men and well trained. But sometimes if the mind and soul is not happy it can be frustrating. If you are in an Army and fighting insurgents and you lost your friend in the field of battle and nothing is done to compensate his family or nothing is being said about him. Stuffs like that can get this guys frustrated and react in the way they are. I respect all Nigerian army for there sacrifice to there mother land but they deserve better particularly the ones on the battle field.

CaptainStephen:
I have drank worse water in training, deployment and will still do, the army is not for the weak.

Back to this video, there are supplies provided, of course troops in far remote locations might get delays in supplies depending on several factors.

It is expected to be resilant and make good use of your environment.

So you shove your sensational headline and video down your behind

There are more important things you people can hold the government accountable for regarding the military.

Are you justifying this kind of treatment for our Nigerian Army. The men laying down there lives to defend our territory. No human being suppose to be treated that way in there own country. There must always be provision for them before they run out of stocks. This is inhuman and I don’t understand why some people will always defend this FAILED government no matter what they do. Am sure even if they killed some people’s mum they will still defend their pay master in a way.

solmusdesigns:



Shut Up Tinubu never opressed anybody, i personally benefited from many of his mentorship and political policy..

who else as done more for southwest in recent time than he is doing.. oppressor koor oposition nii

as for being a slave, i believe the omo ales and the erus know themselves and they are the ones always shouting about slavery, the freeborn dont even think of that or have such words in their diction

What has this Tinubu really done for SouthWest? He was the one that sold this Buhari to the SouthWest and now nobody is safe again. He gave us a Vice President that has no voice and has no stand. Military governor Maruwa did more to Lagos than your pay master Tinubu. We all know how Tony Elumelu is helping and raising entrepreneur without working for Government.

Any money a man like Tinubu spent on anyone are just probably 10% or the stolen money they took from us. Stop praising this mediocre politicians. They don’t care about the average Nigeria. All they care about is there selfish interest. You will never know how much Lagos is making until this APC people leave that sit. I pray we get sense. Am a Yoruba so you know.

sparog:



Putting it like this makes it sounds plausible

But I believe we should do better than abuse, we should take a stand instead of abusing them.

See bro, there a lot of things going on that we can rather address than this. Look at the way Yorùbá and Igbo are always abusing themselves on this forum, see the way Christian and Muslim act to each other. Those are more important discussions to have than talking about this false politicians. It saddens my heart when I see us abusing ourselves. They broke the unity down there so we won’t be able to have one mouth and rebel against them. That in particularly makes me feel we are lost.

sparog:


Wow

Exactly my point. Instead of doing something about our situation, we are abusing them.

Abusing don’t really help but I can’t blame anyone. People are frustrated. It’s very understandable. People are pushed to the wall. People are dying , hungry, out of shelter. The whole country is at a mess. Honestly, am sure even you can’t respect a devil even when the devil is older than you, can you ? Tell me what names you call people that kills freely, people that use religion for political gain, people that use ethnicity to win elections, people that gives guns to criminal for election and after election they use the guns to steal and to kill innocent Nigerian. Will you respect a devil ?

sparog:
The way you guys insult elderly people cos of politics on this forum is not cool oooo

Calling people old enough to be your fathers and grandfathers derogatory names is not cool even if you don't like or agree with the person's politics


I dnt like the way the country is at the moment too but calling people names would nt solve the challenges the country is facing

People are getting tired of respecting elders that doesn’t respect themselves and are too selfish and greedy and trying to make life more difficult for the next generation. They want to eat it all at once before they pass on. You don’t respect such elders that steal from you. This men are robbing our generation and you still want us to give them the accolades of elders ? They don’t lead us , they rule us. We have no freedom. We are all being controlled and working for slave masters in disguise.

Mind you; people have started beating them uptown. Not just abuse. We only abuse in Nigerian but people in diaspora have started doing the worse and I see things like this will continue until this men start putting the lives of people ahead them and not just themselves and there family.

Arrewa:
As a born again Christian who is meant to speak the truth at all times, i think this amoketun issue is being hypocritically blown out of proportion to expand hatred for other tribes especially the Fulanis. Why must we Christians be the brain behind the vast support for Amotekun when the Nigerian constitution is clear about the roles of the armed forces and police in the security of the country? Why must we form an ethnic militia to target fellow Nigerians when the constitution guarantees freedom of movement and doing business nationwide as long as we are Nigerians? What we fail to realize is that the south east cheering on Amotekun sees its as a synonym for their biafra agitations and they will rather support anything that will disband the relative peace and unity of Nigeria. The IPOB sympathizers will be the one to cry wolf when Amotekun starts targeting their tribesmen who commits various crimes in the south west. MURIC recently condemned the killing of a CAN pastor and sympathized with we Christians, how many Christians will condemn the killing of an imam or Muslims? Instead we rejoice when tragedy strikes them forgetting we are all humans before religion. Instead of emulating our Muslim brothers who have remained silent on this issue of Amotekun, we Christians are disturbing the cyberspace with hypocritical comments. Amotekun will never see the light of the day as long as we remain one Nigeria. It's a bad policy and a tribalistic security outfit aimed at persecuting other Nigerians. On behalf of we Christians, i condemn Amotekun. Let's learn to live in peace and harmony

Abeg, park well joor. You are not talking on behalf of any Christian and am sure you are not even one to start with. You are talking on behalf of your slave masters. The Amotekun was never meant to created to hurt any tribe of Nigeria.

It was created to protect the lives and properties of every Nigerians living in the SouthWest region. Being a Christian is not equivalent to being a fool. Being Christian doesn’t say you should not protect yourself against criminals. You people just bring ethnicity and religion into everything. How possible can we ever move forward if we put religion first. We are first Yoruba, Igbo and Hausa before any religion be it Christian or Muslim. This religion was brought in by the Western world to divide and break us and you people just continue to follow suit and not even think even in 2020. Very sad

eldeens:


Good one, then Amotekun must stay, long live Amotekun long live southwest, long live other region and long live federal republic of Nigeria

Amen, God bless you too brother. You are wise.

omlueh:
All of you Politicians are all Bastards, rogue and thieves in this our country Nigeria, you all mean know well for the People of these Great Country, what do you expect from Chief Occultic Ahmed Tinubu Bola before, he is trying to be smart so as not to offend either side, but he forgot that he will never and ever be the President of our Great Country, bunch of Bastards.

Amen, you are right . There are all greedy, selfish , self centered old men. All they care about is money and power. We need so start holding our destiny in our hands. This politicians are all rogue. They can’t lead us anywhere.

eldeens:
If Amotekun failed tomorrow (God forbid) but eventually it does you all will remember that you have been advised,

Its easy to Kickstart but sustainability is the major task, starting from the

leadership: who will head Amotekun, each state will want to be the head, and once you have a bad head at the start up that's the downfall of Amotekun.

Recruitment: some states will be marginalized

Police and other agency: there will never be a synergy between the two, go and ask Civil Defense Corps, the later is still finding it difficult then who is Amotekun,

State Governors and Financing: out current state governors that they so wicked, to pay salaries and pensions become the hardest thing to do, funding Amotekun will be a problem to some state, with time some states will begin to pull out, and this will crash the program, curbing security and maintaining it gulp alot of funds, and southwest governors should not even think they will get a bailout from FG, this will cause uproar from the other region. Southwest governors will have to go sourcing for extra fund to support Amotekun.

Corruption: when the leadership is full with hungry lions then the downfall of Amotekun is certain. This will radiate down to the lowest officer.

My take:
Let the Amotekun be controlled at the grassroots, that's by state just as Tinubu and IBB spelt out or else Amotekun is dead before arrival, that's the honest truth take it or leave it.

That’s your take, let me answer some of your question:
There won’t be any rivalry as to who will lead the Amotekun. Already we have SouthWest head governor and that’s Akeredolu the Ondo state Governor.

Each state will determine the numbers of personal they want and they can pay base on the financier capability.

About the synergy with the Police, I really don’t care. So far they are keeping there region safe out of criminals. We have a lot of criminals inside the police force already. Some kill innocent Nigerian, sells gun to thieves, be collecting bribe up and down. If we weren’t thinking like a mediocre then we know this police force is false.

Also about the funding , I believe it’s time we all make and impact in keeping our community safe. We all pay for watch man in our community. The governors have been meeting in private sector and individuals on how to put resources together for there payment. It’s about life and properties and investors care about security of there staffs and company too.

Well about the upsurge from other region , that’s a good thing. Other region should also work on getting there own community people to protect there environment. No one loves to hear Nigerians dying and nothing is done to avert it. What this government knows how to do best is sending condolences and not preventing crimes.

Nathdoug201:
So yoruba muslims what's your take on amotekun...
Do you still want to leak your fulani masters asses or you want to fight for your region..
Lolz..
I love this

First , am a Christian and a Yoruba. And I have Muslim Yoruba friends. Because one man gave his own opinion doesn’t mean every other Yoruba Muslim are on the same page with him. We don’t have to bring ethnicity and religion over everything issue. Before Christianity and Muslim was brought to Africa we were first Yoruba and all brothers. A white man religion shouldn’t be more important than out true identity.

ojuu4u:



That is why I love Atiku, he always shows empathy towards Nigerians irrespective of regions he comes from, but for Tinubu. He always has fear factor from cabal .....I don't want to offend them attitude .

Am a Yoruba , but I would rather love to see someone like Obi running for presidency. I will vote him ahead of Tinubu and Atiku 10X.

Citytrend:

Back a man whose position is neither here, or there? Are people really that Confused. Maybe they should visit his comments again to have an idea of what he said.

You can't be supporting the Security outfit and be supporting the Federal government decision same time.

The last time I checked it is called hypocrisy

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The man Tinubu, is just being a greedy self centered man. He only care about his own political ambition. Why did it take him so long to voice out his opinion if he really cares about anybody. He can’t even send a condolence message to the CAN pastor that was murdered past 2 days. His he not in this same Lagos that Police has been harassing and killing innocent citizens? Did he say anything?

An elder is a person that will put his people first and care about every lives of his people. That man called Tinubu is really not a definition of Yoruba elder. You can call him a definition of Nigerian politician because that is the only thing he represent. I see the way some foolishly follow him and he keep enriching himself and giving them peanut to live a life of slave. I pray people get sense and start knowing that there lives lies on there own hand and not any Nigerian politician. Most have gone rogue and VERY selfish and GREEDY.

Osagyefo98:



We hold and recognise the sanctity of lives but shouting Hausa-fulani remains the enemy how do you wish to collectively achieve such feat of protecting lives?


That's why we have rules and engagement plus order. There are situations you don't make yourself too obvious as if you the only one at the receiving end.


What about Plateau, Benue, Taraba and the rest.

Please don’t compare SouthWest to any other region. If it pleases there leaders for there citizens to loose lives then let it be. Human lives are so precious and we should handle it that way. It’s human being that makes up there country Nigeria. And if we are no more there won’t be no Nigeria. When Ishbah started it was not in the law but they later include it in the law. What about the national civil service commission. It started individually before the then President adopt it and promote it. Democracy is defined as the government of the PEOPLE, by the PEOPLE and for the PEOPLE.

That definition should ring a bell to us, that means we all are part of the government. We all should be able to make contribution to our democracy. Citizen arrest is lawful in our country, so what’s wrong with Amotekun ? The minister of law has private body guild too and that’s not in our constitution. Most of our elite and politicians has private body guides that carry guns and nobody criticize that. They will say since the gun is approved by the police . Even OPC carry maze gun too that is approved by the police. So, what’s the fear of anyone with AMOTEKUN. The police alone can’t secure lives and properties of Nigerians and we all know that. Do you enjoy hearing about killings ? Does that make you happy . NO Nigerian citizen is suppose to die just like that for a scenario that is avoidable. Life of one person should matter to us cos it can also be you. I will still feel bad to hear that happens to you.

Osagyefo98:
My submission is not against what Tinubu stands to gain or his stand on Amotekun but clearly a trajectory one.

In Nigeria context and In Nigeria agenda everybody needs to be cautious in dealing exclusively with one another and in dire cases the highest you can do is to support what is constitutionally right and that places you on neutral ground.

Very shameful Igbos has carried the pro-amotekun on head as if the issue will directly take off or even think of breeding off. In their zone which we all know is dead on arrival.


You keep telling anyone who cares to listen that fulani is the enemy and all sort of bla bla bla and that you are not the enemy and we must deal with the enemy and all sorts of gibberish even when the matter of discourse has nothing to do with you.


A right thinking human being will hold the rest of mankind same way he holds himself. Been selective on issues is clearly a bad idea, very myopic and only shows a bitter mind.


It either you remain neutral or you support what is right in the law as your constitution allows it so far you in such diversity of a country or you propose for the right law be made to accommodate all sectors.


But moving about cyberspace shouting fulani is the enemy, we must ally to deal with them. They are holding us down.


Then in one sentence who is then your friend?


View everybody equally and stop behaving like old women.

Nicely written but not convincing enough. The security of lives is that number rule of any government. There are no constitutional right that the president has to block the roads while passing through, there are no constitutional rights that give the president not to obey the court of law, there are no constitutional right to make arrest without arrest warrant, there are no constitutional right for EFCC to seize any Nigerian citizen property without court issuing the go ahead.

There are a lot of things that happens in our country that isn’t constitutional but we allow them happen. If we can allow all those and more happen then why would anyone in the world will go against what will protect the lives and citizen of a particular region. In Nigeria history in the 50’s we have regional programs. You can imagine a community of 10,000 people and you have just 1 police station with 2 police men. How are they suppose to protect the lives and property of the citizens in the environment. Constitution only works when you have people alife, constitution won’t work on dead citizen. First priority of life is right to lie.

CSTR2:

Buhari has always been stupid.?
Who would have thought?
I thought igbos just hate him for nothing.

If una do anyhow, una go see anyhow.

Overnight activists.

Igbo and Yoruba have no problem with each other. We all call this Aboki's stupid but they are always winning over us that thinks we are intelligent. They know how to cause differences between Igbo and Yoruba. They also know how to cause differences between Igbos internally and within Yoruba internally. So, when you keep fighting each other like this know that you are just playing according to there plans and you are letting them take the win...
The Presidency in 2023 is supposed to go to the Igbo's in all fairness. I believe most of us know that even if we don't always feel like accepting. By the way, am a proud Yoruba and also a Nigerian and i hope someday we all can be fair with each other to grow.

SenecaTheYonger:
This is why I maintain that Nigeria cannot be fixed. Because even if you fix the government to be as fair and partial as Jesus was, you can't fix the average Nigerians mindset - it's meaningless to even try.

The only hope is to start from the kids to teach them to have strong morals, to have a concience, to be able to feel for other people as if they're an extension of themselves.

Sad but true. I use to say that sometimes we have to un-educated and re-educate ourselves if there is any word like that. We still have to know and understand some basic rules of life to be able to give better morals to the coming generation. LOVE is the best way to go and to start with.

einsteine:
Amotekun is illegal.

How can you establish a security outfit on a regional basis when it is not backed by extant laws of each of the states involved.

The same people supporting it should not start crying when Amotekun miscreants start extorting them.

Remember most members of the new Amotekun would be former NURTW gangsters who would be paid pittance. Of course, the citizenry would be the first set of people to be extorted.

Don't create office for another set of uniformed criminals.

The first interest and priority of any sane government are to protect the lives and properties of all her citizen. I am sure if the Nigerian police and Army are proactive no one will even think of one AMOTEKUN. Nigerian is a failed nation right now and the government knows about this insurgency but they allow it go on for there interest. The Chad army kept the insurgent quite but our government let them go back so Boko-haram can have there way like before. We all see the way the Boko haram have been attacking daily since the Chad army left. I know is either this country divide by 2023 or we restructure. The kind of constitution we use in this country CAN NEVER move a nation forward.

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blowjohn:


Oga ask urself ome question.
Was the Nigerian police this terrible in th 80s or early 90s?
If ur answer is no, then u should ask what went wrong.
The issues ur talking about are the same issues that we find in our universities, work places, etc.
It's the issue of greed and corruption.
U think if the sheriffs in America were so corrupt and undisciplined, that they will be where they are today?
U people are talking local police/vigilante as if they are going to import chinese people to come guard us.
Look it's the same nigerians who are greedy, tribalistic, selfish, wicked that they will employ.

The answer to your question is NO. Nigerian Police was not as this worst in the 80’s and 90’s. I believe that answers your first question. Going forward to your second question , Police has been worst under the current administration than ever before. Look at the case of Wadume who confessed and he is still not sentenced, look at all the killings and misbehavior of police officials, have you heard anyone being sentenced yet ? The current Nigerian Police has no discipline. They do evil things and get away with it. I agree corruption is part of our problem but you have this able president integrity there , why is the corruption the highest under Mr Integrity. The present IG suppose to have been sacked in a sane Cline because he has failed so badly. Even the Burutai, he has done the best in can do as army chief and he is tired and not coming up with meaningful ideas anymore and also his term is done. Why not replace him. Why are all of you clamoring about Amotekun and you are not saying anything about the current killing and kidnapping of army and police officers in the north even happening this weekend and now. How is Amotekun more serious issue than Boko-haram and Fulani herdsmen. Sometimes I feel poverty makes some of you say thinks and think foolishly for some minor stipends. Am sure it Buhari ask some of you to slap your mom you will. Sad

efighter:


After several decades US, EU, Australia, Canada and the United Nations as a whole is yet to defeat Al-Qaeda. How much more Nigeria defeating Boko Haram. If it were that easy, your lord and saviout Goatluck Jonaddaft would have wiped out Boko Haram before Nigerians wiped him(GEJ) out of Aso Rock.

Terrorists have 1000 lives.

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Al-Qaeda are not on US soil but Boko-haram is on our soil. They are different. Also Buhari promised to eliminate Boko-haram if elected but he never did. I don’t want to hear they have been reduced to nothing because they still kill Nigerians and no single Nigerian deserve to die in that manner. Also, he promised to eliminate poverty but he has caused more poverty and also out of school children is about 13million in Nigeria. That should scare any Nigerian. I don’t know if it’s poverty that is blocking some Nigeria to see that we are already in crisis but they keep defending there pay master enslaving them with more poverty.

Koolking:
You people have started again with your fake news because PDP lost at the Supreme Court in IMO State

Don’t worry, when it comes to your turn or that of your family that’s how we will say FAKE NEWS .

blowjohn:


The police is an established institution all over the world.
U cant compare a police man to a local vigilante.
It's better to reform the police than create a monster.
The question we should ask ourselves is why the Nigerian police isn't functioning well.

The way to go in Nigeria is restructuring. Under this government police and army have been politicized. A commissioner of police telling a governor that he doesn’t answer to the governor and only answer to the president. Even in the civilized countries like USA they also have neighborhood watch in some regions that works with the police . They have the Sheriff unit, state unit and federal unit of police force. That means the police force is broken into Federal , state and even cities. But here in our country the Abuja have to give the go ahead before police in Lagos attend to an emergency. The police will arrest a criminal in Ondo state and once it’s a Fulani/ Hausa man they ask them to transfer them to Abuja and give them freedom. If you believe in Nigerian police then just wait till they kill any of your family .

givbitcoin:


There is the police, army and navy. The protect yoruba as much as they protect others. Must yoruba people form a tribal security outfit before they feel protected? Even when doing so contravenes the contents of the constitution? Although, I know that Amotekun will fail but attempting to create is a big attack on unity of this country. yoruba have elders who cannot think but rather behave like untamed donkeys. The consequences of what you have done will be dire. Those who embrace you with love are the people you stab but you call it wisdom.

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Check those that leads the security unit you listed above, all Notherner and they don’t really care about us. Heaven will not fall if Nigerian divide. It’s not by force to remain Nigeria forever. If being Nigeria means people dying up and down then let’s forget about Nigeria. It is the people that makes up the country Nigeria. What happened when they are all getting killed. Who are they going to rule by then ? Abeg park well with all this your divisive claim .

MedicH:



That guy is mad. He think say human life na beans. Wetin all these killings de vex me eeh

Vexing me more. No single Nigerian is suppose to be killed in such a ruthless manner without arresting the killers . They always go freely.

blowjohn:



Exactly. We r drifting towards a divisive strategy.
Most of the security men are gonna be cultists who think like animals.

And your police that you so much trust are not like animals too ? Harassing Nigerians and extorting Nigerians . Number 1 bribe collector, chasing after every Nigerian youth as fraudster. Killing innocent Chime for nothing in the police station. What’s even wrong with people’s brain sef . This set has failed us times without number but we still feel we should always trust them. How low can some people think

MedicH:


Just like the very unintelligent black man. Do you know about the mission of usman dan fodio and the caliphate from futa jallon? Do you know the history of Nigeria: case study, fulani? Do you know why Israel braced up to fortify their defences amidst U.S -Iran tensions? What do you know? Must you wait until your villages are burnt in numbers before you source means? What is wrong in preparing for unforeseen circumstances? Can you even succeed in life?

Lol, that’s harsh bro..