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ballabriggs: When would Jona fire Omokri and Oronto Douglas?

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ballabriggs: When would Jona fire Omokri and Oronto Douglas?

I know Jona peeps into NL once in a while and would not disappoint.

When would Jona fire Omokri and Oronto Douglas?

I like the fact that Jona seems to be getting rid of some monsters. However, if he has not done away with Oronto Douglas and Omokri he has not done anything and so I say fire Oronto Douglas now!!!

Congratulations to my Uncle from Abonnema on his appointment as the MD of the NPDC. Hope we can achieve genuine local content with him. I would be watching.

Bash Me: Nice Response Bruv... E be like dat guy wey dey complain carry too much hair above hin head wey now don cover hin brain. Make una tell am make hin try cut/shave am comot 4 am to acquire small sense sef if not average. Omo Jonathan Jati jati... Wetin ur PDP don do?

Now listen, I like Fash, I value the little he has achieved in Lagos during his tenure, however, that does not mean we are not going to criticize them. At every election period, Tinubu, Fash and the ACN come selling the fourth mainland to the people in order to secure their votes. To me, this is patronizing. It is easy for people who live around Oworoshoki, Surulere, Yaba and Ikeja to get to the Island even with this closure. What of the very low earning workers who live on the outskirts in Ikorodu, Igando and Okoko. It is going to be a nightmare for these people. If Lagos had built this bridge this would not have been the case.


If Lagos reduces the graft in the system, there would be resources for a fourth mainland bridge. I say this because I personally know how people who work in the Lagos government have risen to stupendous wealth with no verifiable source of income. I know what Gbenga Ashafa for example looked like before he became the DG Lands.

I like Fash, however, we have to be objective when assessing him.

dedeike: yet another confused fellow has come to advertise his ignorance on social media. Mark belongs to the geo political zone known as North central. His reference to North is inclusive of himself and he is giving a frank talk to his brothers. What problems do you have with this advice? Is he not saying the truth? I know that your grouse with this advice is that he failed to apportion blames to your nightmare- GEJ. For you, the north should not be asked to call their terrorists to order. GEJ should be blamed continuously while the nation disintegrates in our faces. SMH.

So David Mark and Sambo the number 3 and 2 citizens respectively cannot sway the North in the direction of peace? He should come out openly and tell us what we have always known i.e he is irresponsible.

[quote author=Akanbi_edu]Mark is a compound fool.

(1) He is a northern leader and rode to power on the back of the north. So as a northern leader in power, what he should be telling us is what he is doing to help the situation not blaming other northern leaders who are actually occupying positions not as powerful as he is. If by northern leaders he meant muslim northern/ core northern/ or whatever they call it nowadays of divisive Nigeria, he should be bold enough to tell us.

(2) His remark about virgins is an insult to Islam and therefore an insult to over 70 million Nigerians' religion. This is not what is expected of a leader of multi-religious society, this statement is a threat to our NATIONAL SECURITY. This statement is very devisive only comparable to the one GEJ made after MEND claimed responsibilty for independent day bombing in Abuja.

And to those supporting Mark because of this gabbage, you clearly do not understand these guys. I am going to dig a quote and hope you'd understand.

BRB.[/quote]Thank you for this. A leader indirectly tells you he is irresponsible and you praise him? Is that how low in thinking some citizens have become?

David Mark is the biggest fool for this statement. Mark benefits from the Northern caucus but seeks to deny responsibility.

espn: wetin dis 1 dey talk..off point..park well abeg!

Are you an idi0t not to know the traffic situation in Lagos when the third mainland bridge is opened? Now imagine what it looks like with a partial closure.

Tinubu, Fashola and the ACN had always made the fourth mainland bridge a part of their campaign promise since 1999. The fourth mainland was intended to ease the pressure on the other existing bridges. Why has it not been fulfilled after 13 years?

If they had completed the fourth mainland bridge, the people of Lagos would not go through the pain they about to experience. Hope LASTMA would be on ground though.

“Poverty is not the cause, otherwise if every poor person decides to carry arms then Nigeria will seize to exist. So if people talk about poverty and hunger as the cause of the Boko Haram menace I say no.”

Is it the same Mark that told me telephone is not meant for the poor? Mark is far from the reality on ground. The truth is loads of young people are already bearing arms against the state. It is caused by poverty. It is the poverty of the nation that makes them easy recruits of the powers in the PDP.

He said religious leaders and preachers should desist from indoctrinating their adherents into suicide bombings, adding that government should think seriously on issuing licenses to preachers as a way of checkmating the evil ones among them.

How would 'Orisha-gear-four" scam his followers in Warri now? Ehn Mr Mark, you want collect chop from boys hand be this. It is this same poverty and the irresponsibility of the state that makes them easy targets of such preachers. Let the state be more responsible.

Mark as the number three citizen seems to be denying responsibility for the failure of the state to protect its citizens. What happened to the social contract we have with our leaders?

If Mr Mark does not know what poverty means, he should seek help!

Of course, with irresponsible leaders like Mark, Boko Haram would break Nigeria. You don't need a Ghanaian Professor to tell you this.

Spirit of Okija: Its just like the say 75% of Nigerians are living below the poverty line of $1.25 (220 Naira) per day...

No real records

That was published by the National Bureau of Statistics under the office of the Presidency. Like I said, if you have better figures than what is being used please provide it for the sake of humanity.

Mekusnwa: The way you guys talk as if Gej's govt has not done anything on roads baffles me. Systematically, some people in Nairaland keep hiding the truth from the public. But I will make bold to list GEJ's achievement on roads so that genuine minded people will know and take steps to verify while the haters and BH Nairalanders,will find another opportunity to reign in their insults and abuses. In just one year, precisely 2011 budget, Gej was able to award and also complete some of the road projects across the country viz; Owerri-Onitsha, Afikpo-Okigwe, 9th mile, Auchi-Okene, Benin-Ore-Lagos(80%), Apapa-Oshodi expressway awarded to Julius Berger, Kaduna eastern Byepass, Kano Byepass, Keffi-Akwanga-Lafia, Obi-Awe-Lafia, Kano - Maidugri, Kolo- Nembe-brass, Zaria-Funtua-Gusau which is above 101 km. let's be factual please

Seriously, when you list road maintenance as a Presidents achievement, you know there is failure written all over. It is about reducing the poverty of nations. That is what we want to judge him on having been there for over two years now. To what extent has the poverty rate reduced? Are more people coming out of poverty or are more people going into poverty? What is the standard of living comparable to what it was two years ago? Babangida and Abacha completed a lot of road projects, did that reduce the poverty of the nation? In my years of being in the UK, I have never heard the PM talk of the construction and maintenance of roads as his achievement, it shows trying to hang on to anything to show he is not a failure.

Spirit of Okija: Well I think yours stats are also greatly flawed as no real data collection exercise was carried out before those figures were published..

So in the interest of this discussion, lets agree to disagree..

It is false to say no real data collection was carried out. Some of the components of the index were sourced from national and international statistical bodies including the World Health Organisation which has a country office in Nigeria.

Spirit of Okija: I dont know how credible but check out this Stat



I dont know how credible but check out this Stat

Please, stop referring to wikipedia when speaking on such issues.

Secondly, HDIs as a measure is more appropriate in determining the standard of living as it looks beyond GDP per capita. GDP per capta only tell us what the average income is without a look at income distribution and such things as the infant mortality rate.

This figures are produced by the best statisticians in the globe. Still has its flaws but it is the most appropriate and accepted for now.

Spirit of Okija: Uncle Sir..

The per Capita income of a country is affected by so many things of which Population density, economic policies, International Trade policy, Currency value, Debt ratios, Interest rates, Gross Domestic Product, birth rate and death rate, e.t.c.. are all a part of it.


International comparisons can be distorted by differences in the costs of living between countries that aren't reflected in exchange rates, population density, GDP, GDI e.t.c.

Again, Nigeria is a far better country than Ghana.. Even God sef knows it!

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Like every other statistical data, HDI has its flaws. However, HDI figures are the most used and accepted by researchers in determining and comparing the general well being of countries. I tell you this as a development person.

Like I said, if you have any other statistical data please make it available.

This is the report for 2011 http://hdr.undp.org/en/media/HDR_2011_EN_Table1.pdf . Nigeria is at an embarrassingly low level comparable to countries such as Haiti.

Spirit of Okija: Just so we are on the same page... This is the definition of per Capita



Again, doesnt this show that Nigeria is in a tighter corner having a higher population than Ghana

Mr man per capita means per person. So when you use per capita income, it means income per person. Per capita figures are used, to aid comparison.

all4naija: Why won't you say sorry while calling seller in economics a producer? You should be. And, don't!

It shows you don't know anything. What is the point in responding to you then.

all4naija: Dude, that is very funny. You are only begging the question. There is no single product sold in the informal market in Nigeria with a stable price. On the other hand seller is not in anyway in economics refer to as producer, they fall into meddleclass along with the distributors. However,the seller as well or the producer in some VAT condition remit taxes to the government. But this has not affected the informal system which well over 80% of the share market size for the poor that is close to 70% of the nation population. Indirectly, VAT is virtually not in effect in the Nigerian economy.

The recent government tax and other revenue is a testament to that, which is 9.9% of GDP (2011 est.) compare to Ghana 19.1% of GDP (2011 est.) at relative term. This gives a clearer picture of how tax is not effectively done in Nigeria.

I know your economics claim is based of faulted claims yet there are some evidence to the level of VAT certification and mind you the EASTER region manufactured virtually every product sold in the informal market at the shanty shops at their compounds without the government awareness.

I'm finding it difficult to put what you have written together therefore I'm sorry I won't respond to this.

Spirit of Okija: Thank you very much...

Now let me ask you, If Nigeria with 4 times the population of Ghana is just 14 points behind ghana, if you scale down the figures of Nigeria and rationally equate it to Ghana, does it occur to you that we will be faring better than Ghana on an even scale?!

This data is on a per capita basis to aid comparison therefore the population difference is not an issue.

Spirit of Okija: How were these stats gotten?!

Lets start from there

http://hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/hdi/

If you have any other credible source used by researchers then let's see it.

Spirit of Okija: You are officially a person for this decietful post you just put up..

If so, then Every local government in Nigeria than can boast of a 3km stretch of highway has ann Airport then.. No dey front for us like say na only you sabi Ghana o!! 5 years in Ghana, I know that enclave like the back of my hand..

Ladies and Gentlemen... Behold SUYANI AIRPORT GHANA


Nwokem, shift from my side you self hating Nigerian..

You are talking airport, we are talking Human Development Indicators. Take your poo out of the way. Nigeria has one of the worst HDIs comparable to war torn countries.

all4naija: Lol... It is like there is price control system in Nigeria? Well, that I don't know off. But, VAT added is largely from the sellers side that the producer(which couldn't add to it more that the value added to their products as there has not be any value in most of Nigerian products for long)will much have impact on the formal market because it is there you see the best quality or added value(from package to other added qualities).Yes, those products you mentioned can be VATadded yet fail to prove how it is implemented in Nigeria and who it affect the informal buyer.

How does VAT really affect the informal product prices which are not stable?

Firstly in economics, when I tell you producers, it includes every part of the supply chain. The sellers are a part of producers get that into your head first.

Secondly, don't know what you mean by informal product prices. However, note that a lot of the traded goods in the informal markets are produced by the formal markets. Goods are taxed at each stage where value is added. VAT is charged when a VAT-registered business sells to either another business or to a non-business customer. So if I buy alcohol on the streets I have paid a tax to the government.

Thirdly, to be VAT registered, your turnover has to be at a particular level which I doubt most Nigerian business men in the informal sector attain. The only exception could possibly be the big traders in a market such as Alaba. If you doubt those guys don't pay VAT then take a walk to that market one day, probe the sellers for their VAT certificates and see them produce a valid one.

Don't come here saying the people don't pay tax. With their income level, they should not be paying anything to the government. Stick to the topic of the day.

all4naija: I would like to ask you what is the Value Added Tax when the informal market is well over 80%?

Mr man VAT is passed on consumers by producers. They drink beer, they make phone calls, they smoke cigarette. I could go on and on to list the number of goods that are 'VATable'.

all4naija: You are idiot of the highest order. You don't read to comprehend but quick to run your rabid mouth around. You are very repugnant dude!

I would advice you to reread the comment you just quoted. The whole point about my comment is lost on you,f00l! I dare you explain what you understand about my comment.M0R0N!

hahaha "repugnant". I heard that last on "Pinky and the Brain". Like I said you are deceitful. Based on the income level of Nigerians, they pay sufficient tax. In the UK for example, the tax free income is at 8105 pounds annually. How many Nigerians earn 2000 pounds per annum? You have not made any meaningful comparison but rushed into concluding that Nigerians are poor in terms of taxation.

Like most of you internet trolls, you need your head examined.

all4naija: Lol... Nigerians pay tax! It is one of the worst country in taxes revenue collection. That is not a good point at all to go with in your comment.

Stop being an idi0t. What happened to the VAT? What of the tax burden on imports passed on them by producers? Even on gasoline they pay tax in spite of the lies on 'subsidy'. The only place Nigeria like most developing countries is lacking is on personal income taxation and that is because of the informal nature of the economy which makes personal income tax administration a daunting task. So don't come here spewing rubbish and lies.

Mekusnwa: 4. He said GEJ's Agric revolution is only restricted to distribution of palm seedlings. What an affront on truth. Even a toddler in Nigeria has come to know about the cassava revolution and fertilizer distribution reforms scheme.

If this is what agricultural revolution means to you, then you need to have your head examined.

Secondly, a Professor who appears on TED Q&A is a fake Professor? You are sick but you don't know. Your lengthy post would not deceive us. The day Jona appears on such a platform, he would collapse before the end of the event.

Finally, the President expects his citizens to live at the level of universal ethical principles by "working even when NEPA takes light"- which is almost impossible- but won't live at that level by declaring his assets. Is he not a hypocrite?

No thanks to a useless leadership, health and safety is not a priority.

HNosegbe: • Agriculture: The president said his government is revolutionizing agriculture in Nigeria.”We are giving cotton seeds free in the North” he said.

[This is the most crass definition of an “agricultural revolution” – by providing free seeds.]

The best part. Agricultural revolution to Jona means eating 'akpu bread' with Sambo on national TV.

"The kind of abuse they abuse me if you hear you wont go to market".

Hehehehe President of Nigeria sounds like Idi Amin of Uganda. Was this addressed to his village meeting?

Jona expects the bulk of his compatriots to live at the post-conventional stage of universal ethical principles -which is highly impossible- but won't live beyond the pre-conventional stage by declaring his assets. Tell me this ogogoro is not working wonders. A bloody hypocrite you have as a leader. Is that what transparency in governance means to him?

Beaf: ...And employ ballabriggs, the hungry El-Rufai/Buhari luv'n mofo fast!
What a houseboy!

Hehehehe predictably, you popped out to desperately defend your 'work-chop'. Don't worry I understand where you are coming from. Man must wack now abi no be so? hehehehehe

Good move Jona, next should be Oronto Douglas and Omokri. You don't need mediocre minds anymore, sack Oronto now.

This has been bugging my mind over the last few days and I have tried getting an answer to this puzzle to no avail. This is borne out of the fact that this is a government that prides itself in promoting young entrepreneurs and domestic industries.

Firstly, most of the Presidential aides are signed up on twitter and facebook. In doing this, have they considered the potential crowding out effect on domestic social mediums like Nairaland? Do they also give consideration to how much patronage and growth Nairaland would have enjoyed through their membership of this forum. This in my opinion is how domestic talents and young entrepreneurs are promoted.

On a second thought, is it possible that Reuben Abati is already signed up on Nairaland but decides to remain anonymous due to the nature of this site. This to me is detrimental as it potrays the government as not being sincere to its committment of promoting domestic industries. I think in reaching a decision on whether to remain anonymous, they should have considered the potential growth and spill over effect to this forum and the Nigerian economy.

I thus seems appropriate that President Jonathan mandates his aides to sign up on at least one domestic social media including Nairaland considering the potential favourable impact such would bring on the Nigerian economy. This is one vital way to show commitment to promoting domestic industries.