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All these Nigerian 'presstitutes' deserve to be flogged once in a while. Is this a news report? Very watery tale!

Any security operation that results in the death of 16 people should be questioned. Where they armed? Even if they were armed, did they carry out the first attack? To what extent is the military allowed to respond with firepower? This is the kind of extrajudicial killing we see everyday in our country. How can a country be so wicked to its citizens. 16 people gone just like that. Sad, really sad.

It must have been a very traumatic experience. I had part of my Secondary education around the Iju area and I know how close to the ground these planes flew. Hopefully they would all come out strong.

Having said that, it is important to note that from the Hercules c-130 to the EAS air disaster in Kano to Bellview, communities around the airports have always been badly affected by these disasters. It is unfair that lives are lost in these areas to serve the pockets of the operators. Some of these people have never seen the inner part of a plane, how unfair is it to make them die through a plane crash. This thus brings the need for activism by the communities living around the airports. Communities must form stakeholder groups and push for the adherence to best practice in aviation. Adopt the mentality of "if the regulators don't do it, then we would do it". Demand that airlines publish annual reports on compliance with best standards in aviation. If you cannot interpret the measures of compliance, then get professionals in aviation to do it for you. This may not be sufficient to ensure compliance by operators and regulators but it is better than doing nothing.

drzed: You have spoken well, my brother. This are the sorts of comments that bring me to Nairaland. Constructive and insightful.
Let us all learn from this mistake by both Dana Air and our corrupt and inept government. Many of us will find ourselves in leadership position one day. I especially applaud your suggestion on protecting whistle-blowers. No democracy can work if there are no checks and balances, and citizens/professionals can play a role by exposing corrupt and evil practices in their places of work.

Once again, well done for your post.

Thank you my brother.

^^^
lol abeg leave that man O

Firstly, it is the way to go when an event like this occurs as Dana seems to be a high risk organisation. However, as Nigeria seems to be a high aviation accident risk country there is a need to give safety utmost priority. International aviation standards as adhered to in Nigeria may not be sufficient given the high likelihood and impact of aviation accidents in Nigeria. It then becomes important that Nigeria must move beyond International standards and make its own standards to suit its own jurisdiction. For example, if the ICAO standards require biannual checks, our standards could make it quarterly given the risk in the industry.

Secondly, enough of regulating how much airlines could charge as fares. As airlines strive to comply with regulations, they tend to incur higher costs of operation. How do they comply when you place limits on chargeable air fares? It is a known fact that air travel in developing countries is more expensive when compared to the developed world. This is because of the high risk and the low income level in these jurisdictions as airlines have a limited scope for growth and the accompanying economies of scale. Any airline that charges 80,000 naira on a return flight in Nigeria has not charged sufficiently.

Thirdly, give protection to whistle blowers. There were a good number of staff who knew something was wrong but could not come out to speak as there was no formal channel and protection given to potential whistle blowers. This is what the unions and the Professionals in the aviation industry should be advocating. Everyone seems interested in making this money whilst ignoring the problems in the system. My Politicians are only making noise because they don't want to die as they fly these coffins daily. We have been shouting over the trucks and trailers on our roads and the havoc they cause but no one seems to be bothered. One is thus forced to ask, would you live till eternity on this wealth you keep accumulating?

If we make our country better, we would all be better off.

[quote author=Mr. Globe]^
Reno calm down. You sound so paranoid. That was indeed Abati. And why are you pretending you are touched by the crash when hundreds die almost everyday any and everywhere else to your boss cluelessness and you are not touched. You are indeed a fraudster[/quote]Thank you, he sounds so paranoid and defensive. Trying to bring some sentiments. What a sham!

Beaf: ^
Lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!! Its quite clear that El-Rufai is smarting at his loss of such a brilliant mind and only has fools and blood drinkers like you for company now!

Anyway, here is another thread by id!ots like you who see bloodshed as reason to pop champagne:



https://www.nairaland.com/702892/reuben-abati-replace-ima-niboro#8625978

You fools have been robbed of IQ for long now. No be today!
Maybe tomorrow, Beaf will be Wole Soyinka.

What a pack of losers!
You lost the elections, live with it and join the decent citizens of Nigeria in mouring, instead of drinking blood.
Is this what Buhari and El-Rufai have to offer Nigeria? Lies, forgery and joy whenever there is untimely loss of life?

Nigerians are watching this show of shame.

Who cares about what others thought of you in the past?

Die if you want to die, the truth is you have been exposed as a scumbag. If you die Oronto would be glad, at least one down out of those shortening his ration.

HIT YOUR HEAD ON THE WALL FRAUD!!!

Attempted defrauding Nuhu Ribadu, when the man did not play ball he moved on.

SCUM!!!

See them, they want safety but won't pay for it. These airlines are all struggling to survive. It is a service industry and it grows as the economy and real income grows. The airlines have a very limited scope for expansion as the economy is in a mess. There is no economies of scale. The few planes they have are being overworked. ARIK tried to grow beyond the economy and it almost went down. It took the CBNs intervention to save it. All these pancake approach to development. SMH

aasog1: This really troubled me. Watching him weep like this.
GEJ, you need to be a man. Crying publicly doesnt mean you are less of a man. But you could still salvage things. You need courage, lots of it at this point.
You need to stop feeling like you dont deserve to be the president! You need to start acting like YOU CAN Be the Best President this country ever had.
Stop pointing fingers. Use the stones the oppositions are throwing you to build a monument....JESUS!!!! I feel like I should shake the president a bit
Fire all those political jobbers who are presently appointed on the basis of favoritism. Theyve stolen enough. And yes, we all know you employed those people because they campaigned and politiked for you during the past election.
Corruption is killing Nigerians, not witches and wizards! For crying outloud, who the hell is Bokoharam in any nation with a good security agency.
Everything is falling apart sir. You need to for crissakes: Man UP!!!!!!! Stop acting WEAK!!!!!

In fact, you are Nairaland's man of the year for this post. He is surrounded by the worst advisers. He needs to fire Oronto Douglas and Co, those men have nothing up there. They are only out to line their pockets.

Beaf: [size=14pt]Can I know why you El-Rufai, Buhari and boko haram fans think that an air crash in which 150 souls were lost is an opportunity for despicable p[olitics?

Why can you not mourn with Nigerians, instead you have gone forging Abati's twitter account and spreading lies all over the internet?
Is the blood you take through boko haram not enough for you?

Few would have believed it was this possible to be this evil.[/size]

Did Abati not speak to him?

A FRAUD HAS BEEN REVEALED!!!

The sad thing about them is that when you speak the truth, they accuse you of working for anti-GEJ people, "it is our detractors", "it is the work of political detractors". Looking for enemies where there are none. They leave the substance and chase shadows. The height of stupidity! Ignoring the work to be done in the system whilst they send prowl's on the internet to come and spread lies. I'm a professional to the core but I have the utmost interest of my nation. I can't stand and watch the crooks kill the whole system. I imagine myself being on air in Nigeria. How long would we continue to clap when the aircraft finally lands? I've got time on my hands today because it is a bank holiday and its time to reveal a fraud.

Beaf: 150 Nigerians die in an accident all you can think of are griveous lies and how to forge accounts of top govt functioneries to lie on NL, twitter and facebook.
The amount of wickedness, evil and hate in you people is shocking. You started with boko haram, because that is failing, you are sinking to the low of using national tragedies to propagate your hateful lies. Dude, some things are a step too far and you better repent.

Those who died yesterday are people like you and I. People with families, husbands, wives, daddies, mummies, friends, relatives; they are people who left behind grieving loved ones. It takes a creepy kind of person to use their blood as a vehicle for lies.

But with boko haram, blood is not new to you and your kind.

Shame.

150 you said? If we don't stop a fraud like you many more would die. It is time to open the eye of our people that there are scums on this forum and they should not believe your lies, as it has led some of our compatriots to the grave through a failed system.

No apologies for revealing who you are, A FRAUD AND A SCUM.

Beaf: Shout and lie all you can, buddy. Its great that all of this is happening in the most public way.

Who is dancing in the innocent blood of the crash victims? YOU.
Who has forged Abati's account? YOU.
Who is published false pictures of Beaf as Reno Omokri? YOU.
Who is using the unfortunate deaths of 150 yesterday as a cheap political tool? YOU.
Who is telling lies at this moment? YOU.
It is quite clear what has been exposed of you in one short NL page.

Quite clearly, you are like Satan. Lies and blood are your party. You are the most despicable and hatefilled lying creature that can exist.
Tell me, what makes a man so desperate as to sink to your lows?

All you are after is spreading hatred between the core-North and the rest of the country. Your boko haram is failing, so in desperation you are turning to aircrashes for the milk of your demonic rants.

Says the fraud who created this thread- Why Would ACN Spit On Mko's Name With Paid "Student Demonstration's" - Politics - Nairaland

https://www.nairaland.com/952580/why-would-acn-spit-mkos

Bloody SCUM!!!

Beaf: Enjoy your pathetic life mate, on any decent forum, you would have been banned long ago for defaming public individuals and spreading falsehoods.
While we mourn the dead, all you can think of are Satanic ways to profit from blood and falsehoods. Forging twitter accounts and publishing fake pictures.

Nairaland allows people like you to proliferate, so continue with your lies, hate and dance in innocent blood. It gets you on the front page.

Well done NL! Great work!

Who are you mourning? Mourn not because your lies contributed in the killing of our compatriots. It is a system thrown upside down because frauds like you benefit from it. You dwell on propagating falsehood to the detriment of a better life for our citizens. Now we have seen the outcome and you say you are "mourning". Would your mourning change all the lies you have propagated in the past? Would it bring back the lives of those you contributed in killing through your lies?

GET A LIFE YOU BLOODY HYPOCRITE!!!

Beaf: Quite clearly, NL has become an official engine to create falsehoods and launch personal attacks.
Every id!otic thread makes it to the front page.

Shame on the moderators and their toilet floor standards.

Pathetic.

Says the man who has been posting false tales on Jona's rivals.

Get a life you fraud!

Errrr like Reno Omokri, like Abati, definition of scumbags. What a selfish bunch.

John I. Nnorom, a former Executive Director for Finance at Air Nigeria, has warned Nigerians to stop flying the airline until they are sure that its planes are being properly maintained.

In a blistering public petition, Mr. Nnorom, who resigned his appointment with the airline on April 1, 2012, blamed the situation on big businessman Jimoh Ibrahim, the chairman of Air Nigeria, whom he accused of being uninterested in the maintenance of company aircraft.

“Some of the certifying Engineers and I are under threat of assassination by Barrister Jimoh Ibrahim, if we reveal this secret to Nigerians,” he said.

Mr. Nnorom said that upon his resignation, he wrote a letter in which he said he preferred to die than to be a witness to over 100 souls perishing in an Air Nigeria aircraft.

He disclosed that Air Nigeria is in financial crisis because money loaned by Bank of Industry of N35.5Billion has been diverted into Mr. Ibrahim’s NICON INVESTMENT LTD, a non-finance company popularly called wonder bank, leading to air safety being compromised, and stressed that there is a great possibility of a disastrous Air Nigeria crash, which can occur at any time.

He recalled that in Jan 2012, Licensed Engineers in Air Nigeria went on strike because they were being forced to certify unfit aircraft into the air, and another strike was averted in March 2012 following the intervention of the DG-NCAA, Demureen. Both events, he said, were based on failure on Failure To Meet Safety Standard, and are verifiable information the public is aware of.

Why are Air Nigeria flights sometimes delayed for as many as eight hours? According to the petitioner, that is because the aircraft for that flight is not ready. “While passengers are waiting, engineers are battling to put the aircraft on Air. Several times our Aircraft on Runway taxing to takeoff, turns back to offload passengers due to some technical faults observed by Pilots.”

He said that of the 11 aircraft being operated by Air Nigeria, only one, Embraer, is safe to fly Nigeria Air space, with all of the others needing “deep and heavy” technical maintenance.

“This explains why Air Nigeria has never operated more than six Aircraft out of eleven Aircraft. Air Nigeria do not have the money to fix these Aircrafts. Let anybody go and check now, some of the Aircraft and Engines have been grounded for the past one year.”

Mr. Nnorom even advised Nigerians who choose to take the risk of flying Air Nigeria not to eat or drink anything, pointing out that passengers have been poisoned because Air Nigeria serves bottled pure water, and that passengers have complained of being served “smelling waters.”

Mr. Nnorom further claimed in the petition that Mr. Ibrahim’s companies, including Air Nigeria, do not have tax clearance certificates. He listed the others as Global Fleet Oil & Gas, NICON Insurance, Nigeria RE-Insurance, NICON Properties Ltd, Nicon Luxury, Nicon Hotels Okitipupa, VGC & PHC, Newswatch Communications, Newswatch Daily and National Mirror.

“In Air Nigeria, just to renew expatriate resident permit, Bar Jimoh Ibrahim will instruct a vendor to forge all the tax clearance papers which is filed with the immigration.”
Mr. Nnorom alleges that Mr. Ibrahim:


• As the chairman of Air Nigeria, has diverted N5billion From a BOI aviation industry intervention loan Of N35.5billion granted last year by the federal government through the Central Bank of Nigeria into NICON INVESTMENT LTD;


• Diverted $18m Out Of $40m Afrixim federal government support of the aviation industry; with $26,969,505.63 diverted into Mr. Ibrahim’s acquisition of Energy Bank of Ghana;


• Diverted N10 billion released by the government through the office of the Accountant-General of Nigeria for the payment of pensioners into Nicon Insurance Plc released the sum of, with no pensioner being paid.

Mr. Nnorom insisted that Mr. Ibrahim is trying to kill him, and attached his letter of resignation and subsequent acknowledgement by the CEO and FOREIGN LEASSORS to the petition.

“On the SFU, recovery of $75,000 from me, I was never arrested, never invited by SFU, did not make any statement, I do not know how money was recovered from me,” he said. “I am ready to sponsor any person to come with me to SFU and show me my statement,” attributing the matter to Mr. Ibrahim’s “poor character of cheap blackmail.”

According to the former Executive Director, “Jimoh Ibrahim is after my life but if my death will save hundred Nigerian souls from plane crash and that is the will of GOD, my soul will be happy to meet my creator anytime.”

http://saharareporters.com/news-page/air-nigeria-flying-coffin-former-executive-director-says

Kobojunkie: Sitting down behind a computer changes quite a lot of things. I say this as someone whose career, and education demands he spend about 99% of my time behind a career. I so hate when folks like you try to badmouth those who sit behind computers, as if we are not the ones who created much of the world you know of today. If not for online tools, media,forums, online news channels, twits etc, do you think the recent Egyptian revolution, or that of Libya would have recorded as much success as it has today? Do you think Syrians would have gotten the UN to even bat an eye over their problems?

If you need to talk-down to people, do not talk-down to those who sit behind their computers and do what they know to do. Go to those who have the votes and refuse to use it for their own good.

Thank you Madam Junkie. That is why we are here, to educate the citizens thereby diluting the falsehood being propagated by the state and their agents.

mai gaskiya: my frnd ure a very big idiot a monumental iliterate 4dat mater must u menton gudluk i anytn even ur personal fustratn u mentn gudluk.if ur fada refuse 2 slep wit ur mum u mentn gudluk.simple ansa d questn who is 2blame 4 nija7 woes d citizens or our leadas.olodo.didirin

You yob! Learn to spell properly and stop disgracing yourself.

To think citizens wake up and start obeying laws is the height of poo. They are guided by leaders. There are enough social theories to buttress this point. There are enough country cases to prove this. The state moves the process of social engineering. This is the type of clap-trap Reno Omokri aka Beaf and Metuh want to feed the people, "It is not GEJ's fault, let the people look at themselves first", "the problem started before him". Yet he takes the credit for a Naval canoe started before him. ANIMALS!!!

He is not Igbo but Hausa from Kaduna. In fact his name is Namadi and not Nnamdi.

IGBO KWEZUONUOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

CHA! CHA!! CHA!!! CHA!!! CHA!!!! UMU IGBO KWENU

IGBO KWEZUONUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

frosbel: Actually they are better.

Even when the law enforcers are not present, the majority of brits obey the law.

They have it coded into their system that honesty and integrity pays, while dishonesty and fraud does not.

Of course, they are not perfect , we still hear of cronyism in politics, but it is not to defraud the system, rather it is to award contracts and put people they trust as close friends into positions of power.

However when you look at the quality of work these contractors perform, it is almost always on time, to budget and of the highest standards of quality.

They obey because they know they would be punished if they fail to. It has been embedded in their culture. Go to London on a day the undergrounds are not working and see chaos. I studied auditing in my early days in England, some of the cases we studied were high tech fraud. However, controls are continually being improved to take care of new issues. They had their bad times as a people too but leaders improved the system. Don't come here and talk like their lives has always been perfect as a people.

frosbel: Wow , what a mentality, with this sort of attitude, we will all be like children misbehaving when the teacher is not around and pretending to behave when the teacher returns.

Look if the controls are not there in any society, the people are bound to misbehave. Stop stereotyping my people. They act the way they do because of the circumstance they find themselves. Is it the same people that risked their lives to provide rescue for the plane crash victims you tell me have issues?

When the Nigerian people are allowed freely to pick their right leaders, they would thrive. The British people are not any better, however what goes for them is that being straight forward has been embedded in their culture by the leadership. It is not done by one man, it is done through the process of social engineering. It is only the leadership that has the resources for such a project.

Secondly, governance is about setting the one at the top. The appearance of probity is as important as its substance. If the people can feel the integrity of their leaders they are bound to fall in line.

Lastly, is it these people that build their schools, grade their roads, provide their electricity, provide water, provide credit facilities for themselves, secure their environments, is it the same people you tell me have a problem? The British man would not do this if his government does not provide it. So quit the assumption that Nigerians have issues. Nigerians have issues because of the condition they've been put by their leaders. Any human who finds himself in the same situation would do likewise.

Three days of national mourning? What we owe the dead is to ensure it never happens again. We must embed health and safety in our culture.

PLEASE TAKE THIS TRASH OUT OF HERE. WE LOST 160 CITIZENS AND YOU ARE TELLING US WHAT HE PREDICTED TO SELL HIS CHURCH. TOTAL NONSENSE!

RIP to all. My thoughts with the families of the dead.