Hey Rev.,

One more word: glad to see you come back and chip in that line.

I am anti racism, anti religion, anti everything that tries to control the freedom of humans to think and make decisions for themselves

FACT #1. bari_kade apologises to Reverend, Horus, Kunle, and all 'em black skinned and white skinned people all over naija and the world! Never mind my silly talk, eh??

FACT #2. bari_kade is ANTI-RACIST in all its sentiments - whether they're expressed by black men like me; or they come from white folks like my brothers. We all na one - the HUMAN RACE!!

Cheers again.

@Horus,

You disappoint me!!     A black man like you should apologise to Reverend, after all the nasty things you called his race! Logging off unceremoniously like that is not cool. Do apologise to him when you come back.

Cheers y'all -- and STOP YOUR MELANIN DEFICIENCY madness!!  

Okay, you guys need a break. Relax, we're all grown ups and don't need the mad misanthropy from Horus and Kuns. I know it's not their faults - they got poisoned by the mad racist blacks that have recruited them for this 500 year old malady.

So, I'd like to go watch some football and come back much, much later to see how you got along. Make sure you all try to reconcile your differences; and remember that we're all human beings. No need for the racist misanthropy of "melanin deficiency" blah-blah. Fair deal??  

Oh gosh!! Reverend, what's wrong with YOU?? If I've ever been disappointed with you, this is IT!! How could you afford to log out on me so soon just because I was pointing out the FACT of Horus' and Kuns' melanin deficiency campaign against white skinned folks like you?

FACT: both Horus and Kuns actually called your caucasian race LEPROUS!!

FACT: Horus went on to describe your race as MELANIN DEFICIENT!!

FACT: Horus has an incurable misanthrope against caucasians!

FACT: Horus has used what you called bogotry against your white skin!

Rev., you should have a word with him; because every single time I tried to school him up, he was always sobbing with "OFF TOPIC" and continued his black racist misanthrope against your race! If you ever came across Horus, watch out: he might be more bigoted than the adulations he's been pretentiously posting here.

@Reverend,

Horus:

Very Nice this Quote

Don't be fooled by these black racist antics! It's a popular gimmick of their clan! As soon as you log out, you'll come back to read Horus' unbridled slobber against your white skin (aka called melanin deficiency)!!  

Meanwhile, Rev.,

So that you don't go whimpering to your retired dad, just ask Horus and Kunle what they've been saying about your caucasian race. It's a simple request: just ASK them!  

They may not strike you as bigotted; but it was in their post we all read that your being a white caucasian person is a a sign of LEPROSY!  

Infact, Horus your pal said that since your race suffers from melanin deficiency, you were born as a (           )!!  Please ask, and I'll provide the reference.  

It's so funny that while you're belly-dancing about here, both Kuns and Horus are having a field day shlepping their black racist bigotry on your white skin!  

@Reverend,

Considering the pages of bull you normally churn out on this forum, I must say I am a little dissapointed in your last reply. It was extremely short and contained no bible quotes  

Are you losing your touch?

I hope not    

ps. Be careful when you remove your head  

Considering the fact that my debates forced you to make those changes on your website and further forced your dad into retirement, there's no need your crying out so loud for your loses!    The one thing that is on record is that your barking is now a mere croak; and there's nothing entertaining in your recent whimpers.

Relax, I don't remove heads. Ask Horus and Kunle - they're the ones begging other melanin folks to rescue what your "cursed race" (caucasians) have done to them!  

@Kuns,

How bodi? I now understand that when you're brushed a wee bit, you log out to return as Horus!! No worries, because you still haven't seen how you're giving yourself away so easily!!  

In anycase, try something else. I've dealt with your recycled pet project in other threads from where you continue to recycle them.

Kuns:


barricade seems be be reading his bible upside-down.

A very wise man once said never argue with a fool or arguementative person like barricade.



Barricade, Why do you think God told Abramham tell his son's not to marry from amongst the Cannanites (caucasians) Genesis 28 : 1 and I quote

Genesis 28 : 1
" 1: Then Isaac called Jacob and blessed him, and charged him, "You shall not marry one of the Canaanite women."

Is God2 racist? Why did god command this Mr Barricade , Maybe you think this part of the bible is a Joke.
Yeah, maybe God is racist.

See Genesis 24 : 3
": and I will make you swear by the LORD, the God of heaven and of the earth, that you will not take a wife for my son from the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I dwell"

This is God telling Abramham not to pollute his Gene (blood). Maybe you think he is sad too.

The christian chruches of today are doing exactly the opposite to what their bibles are saying. They have eyes but they cannot see.

See my rejoinder to your tired old recycled project in this link: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-60028.0.html#msg1226554

Right racism preserves the races. There is no other way to preserve the purity of the races but by right racism. The Caucasian practices wrong racism, that is, one-sided racism. Right racism is a symptom of race pride and intelligence. Right racism is racism practiced on equal terms; and to practice racism equally, a race must have equal things, beginning with equal universal knowledge.

It is ironical and hypocritical that the very ones who introduced racism (as you know it today) to the world, and the ones who practice wrong racism to extremes are the very ones who tell us now that racism is devilish. The Canaanites mean that racism is devilish when it is practiced by others toward the Canaanites; because when others practice it, it means that Caucasian males will not be able to abuse, misuse, rape, and ravish women of other races at will and nothing be done about it.

They would not be able to mongrelize and leopardize (genocide by miscegenation) other races.

They would not be able to religiously spellbind and sexually stigmatize the bodies and minds of women of other races and use those women agains the men of the women’s own race. In other words, right racism prevents Caucasian men from using the women of a race against their men.

Jehovah Witness Racism
The (Jehovah's Witnesses) racist message and racism that white is good, and brown, red, and yellow are bad is quite blatant. With more than two million Jehovah's Witnesses, of multi races and nationalities that are a part of the organization, why aren't any of the prophets, prophetesses, princes, princesses, priests, Adam and Eve, Jesus, or pharaohs of a different race than Caucasian? Moreover, please don't say that it doesn't matter because if it didn't, then they all wouldn't be Caucasians. Moreover, if it really didn't “matter” you wouldn't have made any pictures at all!

The fathers of the bible are racist that's why they portray all the bible characters as Blond hair blue eyes. Even their angels are white and God is white.

So Mr baricade, if God is White then what colour is the devil? Or if Jesus the son of God is white and his mother "Mary" is white then what colour is God?
So what colour is the Devil then considering the above?

Christianity is the spiritual power of the cau-asians (deteriorating Asians from the Caucus Mountains), and it is the religion of the cau-asians (Pale man or Albinoes) and their black pets.

Say something fresh and help your IQ. My responses to the above in the following links:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-60028.0.html#msg1206635

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-60028.0.html#msg1226554

Meanwhile, what has the black racist clan doen for you, HorusKuns? Em, how's the other project where you're crying for other melanin candidates to "rescue Nubia" for your 500 year old mental slavery, hmmm??  

@Reverend,

I know you haven't healed up yet from just one debate with me that forced you and your crew to make hurried changes on your kinky website; as well as force your father, Rev. Fletcher into retirement. Your sobbing has been much expected - at least you're proving that you were badly hit!

@donnie,

donnie:

I know there are some who are trying to give the impression that I am actually introducing something new. No! This is what is and what has been from the beginning. The church only lost it. The same thing with all the other kinds of teachings they had embraced over the years. The fact that it has been there a long time does not make it right.

Actually, if you had got them right without wrongly interpreting 'Christ' as the Church, I'm sure no one would try to raise concerns. The Church didn't lose sight of the fact that "Jesus is the Christ" (John 20:31 and I John 5:1). Sadly, those who through Church history have attributed that appelation to the Church (or even to themselves) have had to face the challenge in I John 2:22 --

"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?
He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son."

Words cannot be clearer, donnie. The unfortunate thing in all this is that those denying the clear declaration of Scripture do not claim to be making such denials; but nonetheless, they do so in the way they interpret scripture to fit what God's Word does not teach! Not in one single verse is the Church ever called or addressed as "Christ".

donnie:

I am not trying to confuse things. I am only trying to straighten you out and i tell you, once you understand what I am saying, most of the areas which seem to be cloudy in scripture will become clear.

I appreciate that; although the arguments from you so far have not been convincing to the point.

donnie:

Because I know there are many who are not sure about so many things which they say they believe. And this is the reason why the church is where it is today. There are many who are looking outside for what they already have. They are trying to become what they already are.

This is why many are not experiencing the manifestation of the Spirit and power as much as they should today. This is the reason for the lack of conviction and clarity in the delivery of the message of Christ.

That may well be true; but then, if we can't find verses clearly teaching what we try to persuade others to believe, it might just as well be the better for us to not even push such ideas at all.

donnie:

I am suprised that I am still trying to make some believe that we are members of the same body of Christ_ Jesus being the head and we the body.

That is not even the issue here. Your trying to make the Church into what the Bible does not teach anywhere in its 66 books is the crux of the matter in the present discussion.

donnie:

Well, a time comes when there has to be a change. And that change is already on whether you like it or not.

If the change you're propagating is to confuse the subject by far-fetched references, it won't work regardless the eisegesis.

donnie:

Thanks for those references. Am I by them supposed to conclude now that I am no longer a member of His body of His flesh and of His bones? Should i conclude that I am no longer a part of that body where He is the head; that body called CHRIST?

The references were offered to point out that:

the Body is the Church
and the Head is Christ.

The Bible nowehere lends credence to the sad neo-classical heresy of referring to the Body as CHRIST! Think about it for a moment: would your interpretion of the following verse fit your idea?

'And hath put all things under his feet, and gave HIM to be the head over all things to the church
which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all'  --  Eph. 1:22-23.

There it is clear that CHRIST is Head over ALL things to the Church; and not the other way round as you stated. Your inference, if applied to that verse would go on to say that "the church is head over all things to the church" - and you know what school of heresy propounded that idea a few centuries ago.

Speaking of CHRIST, Col. 1:18 articulates that "HE (Christ) is the Head of the body, the church". It does not say that Christ is the Body; but that Christ is the HEAD!!  Again, "the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the Head of the church" (Eph. 5:23).

You will not find the Body called 'CHRIST' in any verse of the Bible; nor will you find Christ in any verse being called the Body! The Body is consistently called the Church; and Christ is consistently called the HEAD. Please don't try to continue your re-inventing of what is clearly declared in God's Word.

donnie:

To touch me is to touch Jesus,
To touch me is to touch the annonted and the annointing.

Your shakara will not work, because the texts you quoted (Eph. 5:30 and John 17) do not refer to you as "Jesus". That you are a member of His Body does not make you the Head either! Jesus Christ is the Head; we are members of His Body.

To touch you is not the same thing as touching the only begotten Son of God (John 1:18 and I John 4:9). You cannot place yourself as the very same One whom the Father sent into the world for us; nor are you the One who suffered and gave Himself for me on the Cross (Gal. 2:20). Most importantly, you're not the Apostle and High Priest of our Christian profession (Heb. 3:1 & 4:14); neither do I ask anything in your name, donnie (John 14:14).

We should be satisfied with what is declared in God's Word and not over-hallow yourself by misadventures that the Word of God never called you at all.

Cheers.

@donnie,

I'm again going to be somewhat detailed in my rejoinder because there are lots of issues that are of concern in your latest response.

donnie:

It is okay with me when you say Theophanies (which refers to appearances of God in the Old testament) because i am very much convinced that God did appear in the old testament; manytimes, like a man. But I am not comfortable when you say Christophanies because i know that God the father could only have appeared in the Old testament by the Holy Ghost. I tell you, when you undersatnd this thing i am sharing through the Spirit, it will revolutionize your walk with God.

Actually, I don't remember having mentioned Christophanies; and even then, God the Father Himself never appeared in the OT or NT. It was not until God sent forth His Son in the NT that anyone could have had a revelation of the Father. This is why despite the fact that people had seen God in the OT (e.g., Gen. 32:30), the Gospel specifically stated: "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him" (John 1:18 ). It was the Son who was declaring GOD throughout; and if you could understand that the theophanies were the appearances and manifestations of the Spirit and the Son, it might help you see why your ideas have been queried severally.

donnie:

I am sure you are familiar with the law of double reference in scripture interpretation. Those in the book of acts who prayed actually quoted from the Psalms of David. These were the psalmist's words:

Psalm 2
1Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

2The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,

The phrase, His annointed is used instead of Christ.

Will it be wrong for me to call the Church His Christ?

Actually, I'm aware of the law of double reference and first occurence in Biblical studies; but you have failed to correctly apply it here in explicating the references cited from Acts and Psalms. In context, Acts 4:26-28 demonstrates that it was actually against Christ that the rulers were gathered, for verse 27 specifically mentions Jesus as the Subject against whom they were gathered:

'For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed,
both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles,
and the people of Israel, were gathered together.'

It was against Jesus that the rulers were gathered together; for according to that verse 27, Jesus was the One whom God had anointed (which connotes Jesus being the Christ; see also Acts 10:38 - "God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power".

Acts 4:25 ('Who by the mouth of thy servant David hast said') shows us that the disciples were alluding to Psalm 2. However, what is interesting to note is that the second Psalm is about the Son of God, and not about the Church. If you read the other connections with that Psalm about the Subject against whom the kings or rulers of the earth are gathered, you will find that it is consistently against the Lord Jesus Christ. Here are a few:

"Now the chief priests, and elders, and all the council, sought false witness against Jesus,
to put him to death" -- Matt. 26:59 (compare with the people of Israel in Acts 4:27 who
'were gathered together' against Jesus whom God had anointed).

'When the morning was come, all the chief priests and elders of the people
took counsel against Jesus to put him to death' -- Matt. 27:1

When we go to the book of Revelation, it becomes even all the more obvious that the kings and rulers of the earth gather themselves together against Jesus Christ:

And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet;
but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their
power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall
overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called,
and chosen, and faithful. -- Rev. 17:12-14.

And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies,
gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse,
and against his army. -- Rev. 19:19

The point of all this is that the references to "Christ" in the NT are in direct allusion to Jesus Himself. The other two references to the clause "His Christ" in the NT also point to Jesus: (a) Rev. 11:15 - "The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ"; (b) Rev. 12:10 - "the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ".

In all the symbolisms of the Church in the NT, there's not one reference to her being addressed as "Christ".

donnie:

When you understand this, you will undrstand fully what Jesus meant when He said we shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit. This should not be mistaken, like many have done, for the infilling of the Holy Ghost. Because to be baptized with the Holy Spirt is the same thing as being born again.

My dear donnie, being born again is not the same thing as being baptized with the Holy Spirit. 1 Cor. 12:13 says "by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body" - it did not say that by one Spirit are well all born again! The baptism spoken of in this verse refers to born again believers being added to the Body of Christ; for no one can be added who is not yet born again - although both operations of the Spirit occurs simulatenously as well a few others.

A few things that are common to every person who receives Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour include:

such are given the new birth - James 1:18
the Holy Spirit dwells in us - I Cor. 3:16
we are sealed by that Holy Spirit of promise - Eph. 1:13
we are anointed to know God's truth revealed in His Word - I John 2:27
we are given the earnest of the Spirit - Eph. 1:14
we are made members of Christ's body by the Spirit - I Cor. 12:13

All these and more are the common lot of all born again believers. Yet, being "born again" is not the same thing as being baptized into the Body of Christ. We are born of the Spirit that we might receive the very life of God in Jesus Christ (John 3:3 & 7; I Pet. 1:23); but we are baptized into the Body by the Spirit that we might understand our place in that Body as pertaining to service (I Cor. 12:13; see also vs. 14 - 'For the body is not one member, but many')

However, there is another meaning of the baptism with the Holy Spirit that even yet does not point the same thing as being born again. This is where we come to Acts 1 & 2. In ch. 1:5, the Lord Jesus said: "For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence." The 'not many days hence' was fulfilled a few days later in ch. 2:1-4 where "they were all filled with the Holy Ghost".

The baptism with the Holy Ghost is variously described in Scripture in the following way:

(a) the Holy Ghost coming upon them - Acts 1:8

(b) believers being endued with power from on high - Luke 24:49

(c) believers being filled with the Holy Ghost - Acts 2:4 & 9:17

All these point to the same thing as what the Lord Jesus said in Acts 1:5 - "ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence"; but it is radically different in meaning from that baptism spoken of in I Cor. 12:13. The difference can be simply enuciated this way:

i. the baptism with the Holy Ghost in Acts 1:5 describes the enduement with power for witnessing
ii. the baptism by the Spirit in I Cor. 12:13 points to ministry in the Body of Christ by its many members

I hope this outline would be helpful when discussing issues like this.

donnie:

I know there is a second experience. That is the infilling of the Holy Ghost. I know that, because i know it is one thing to be immersed into something and it is another to be full of that something. But this experience should not be mistaken for the baptism of the Holy Ghost.

You know this is the reason why God cannot manifest himself in the Church today as much as He will want to; because of our wrong underatnding of God's Word.

We know that many people in pentecostal circles have confused this subject; but it doesn't help for us to keep vending such misunderstanding. Being "born again" is a distinct work of the Holy Spirit as are others outlined above; and though they occur simulatenously, they are yet not the same things as you earlier stated.

@Horus,

Horus:

Ignorance,any melanin deficiency is a form of Leprosy (LEP-ROSY) Lep=Skin Rosy=Pinky.it is you who paranoid in your phobia again Africans.I have nothing again ALBINO (caucasian)i just talk Facts.

What your racist black clan has failed to teach you is that the fact about leprosy is not a race issue! That is why black racists are antiquated species who fail in any attempt to be educated even in the medical field. Please the following links and know the facts about leprosy - it has nothing to do with melanin deficiency, but is rather caused by the bacterium Mycobacterium leprae (and there are significant occurences of the disease among black people in Africa) :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/medical_notes/166163.stm

http://www.who.int/lep/diagnosis/en/index.html

http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec17/ch194/ch194a.html

Horus:

You just copy and pasted my own post,are you running out of barking for your white master? I don't need master.

You must have been sleeping heavy on your PC. Your black racist clan taught you to pretend you don't have master; but they infected you with a misanthropy against caucasians!

Horus:

Darkness?what wrong with darkness?
Where was god before he created light?IN DARKNESS

God is light, and in him is no darkness at all (I John 1:5). Your dread for your dark deeds are causing you to manifest your low IQ, not so?

Horus:

So there is nothing wrong with darkness,and this is a Fact.

The same darkness is what you have been complaining against: how confused can you be? Was it not you and your alter ego Kuns who tried to cheat yourselves with the black racist lie that "everything black was bad"??

Horus:

Before God decided to create light he was in darkness,then if God was in darkness so black and dark is good. The trick has been played on you to believe that everything black is bad.

Read how Kuns was holding on to that black racist lie here:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-60028.0.html#msg1217883

Also, see the link I offered youhim to debunk the same antiquated lie:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-56744.0.html#msg1173945

Black racists have a problem being honest to themselves; and that is why with all the noise about melanin, they are still slaves to their self-inflicted misanthropy for over 500 years now!

My sis, you no lie at all!

Those who have sifted it through have found the Da Vinci Code exactly what it is: fiction.

@Horus,

Horus:

Hairs not skin and where do you see a problem?

I know black racists like YOU have a reading deficiency problem; so let me requote it for you:

         Leviticus 13:13
         Then the priest shall consider: and, behold, if the leprosy have covered all his flesh,
         he shall pronounce him clean that hath the plague: it is all turned white: he is C-L-E-A-N.

You are the same chap who's been phobic to 'white skin colour'; now losing your grip, you came back scurrying under the cover of 'white hair! 

        Leviticus 13:4
       'If the bright spot be white in the skin of his flesh, and in sight be not deeper than
        the skin, and the hair thereof be not turned white; then the priest shall shut up him
        that hath the plague seven days'

Since black racists have often craved the "white hairs" derived from their misreading Rev. 1:14 in order to picture their black jesus as a man of white hairs, let's go back to Leviticus 13:3 for the typical "white hair" for your black jesus:

                Leviticus 13:3
                And the priest shall look on the plague in the skin of the flesh:
                and when the hair in the plague is turned white, and the plague
                in sight be deeper than the skin of his flesh, it is a plague of leprosy:
                and the priest shall look on him, and pronounce him unclean.

Now add them up:

      (a) according to verse 3, black racists craving the white hair are pronounced UNCLEAN! 

      (b) according to verse 13, if the flesh/skin is all turned white, they are CLEAN!! 

Since you're so paranoid in your phobia against white skin while your black racist clan are craving white hair, the verses you quoted simply disqualify your black racists tribe and pronounce the WHITE SKIN as C.L.E.A.N!! 

Horus:

You seem to be paranoid,like all religious Fanatics. Not at all,I am free from the influence of the Pale race.

Your enslavement to your black racist malady has been showing all through your posts. Yesterday was not such a long time when you sobbed out your paranoia.    So, what's the sob episode you're preparing for tonight?

Horus:

But I can see that you still perceive the Pale"race"as a Master for you.

That's because you can't read. Did you not cry earlier in another thread that English was a problem for you? Black racists have never got their reading skills together! 

Horus:

This is normal you are the PET of the Caucasians on Nairaland.

No stress, my guy. I cause your clan so much pain that quite often it doesn't take long before you and Kuns to begin snivelling. 

Horus:

Your Baking of pet will NEVER stop me to post Facts.

Rest your heart. If you have failed to read and your scholarship embarrasses your existence, what you call "fact" will only turn out to make you sob like yesterday! 

Horus:

25And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.”

Who was Canaan?  What was The Curse upon Him?

Canaan was Ham’s Son  and the Curse upon him was LEPROSY….Cursed White!

…CHECK IT OUT FOR
YOUR OWN SELF FROM YOUR OWN BIBLE!

Another crass demonstration of poor reading skills. Nowhere was the curse said to be leprosy! 

Horus:

CANAAN was cursed and not HAM.  The term “HAM” is also a name

From which KHAM and KHEM is derived and it means black. This is

Not teaching racism …. These are facts!

The "facts" have been re-engineered to fit your poor antiquated racist history. How can you "derive" K[/b]ham and [b]K[/b]hem from HAM? [b]Only black racists do this; and I've sent Kuns on errand to go check out what the matrix of his name represents. He hasn't taken my challenge because he's so scared to death of finding out the "facts" of what your black racist clan are busy doing behind the scenes. 

Horus:

The Lord is Darkness
Black is God. God is good. Black is good. "the Supreme Being" called God was in blackness or darkness:

Ahhhh! Now at last your dark master has forced you to confess!    The problem is that anytime we ask you what your black jesus has done for you, your dark master loses his voice! 

Horus:

Light is chaos.

The result of this backward thinking has been demonstrated time and again on African soil in how your black racists are savages to THEMSELVES without the caucasian's help! 

@Horus,

Horus:

You forget THE MORE IMPORTANT DETAIL

I could as well have quoted the whole of the chapter for you; and my point would still stand to show that Leviticus 13 was not addressed to the Canaanites.

Horus:

Leviticus 13
Regulations About Infectious Skin Diseases
1 The LORD said to Moses and Aaron, 2 "When anyone has a swelling or a rash or a bright spot on his skin that may become an infectious skin disease, [a] he must be brought to Aaron the priest or to one of his sons who is a priest. 3 The priest is to examine the sore on his skin, and if the hair in the sore has turned white and the sore appears to be more than skin deep, [c] it is an infectious skin disease. When the priest examines him, he shall pronounce him ceremonially unclean. 4 If the spot on his skin is white but does not appear to be more than skin deep and the hair in it has not[/b] turned white[/b], the priest is to put the infected person in isolation for seven days.

Source Bible gateway: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=3&chapter=13&version=31

Where does it say in your quote that Moses or Aaron were addressing the Canaanites?

Since your problem is about skin turning "WHITE", that is why I quote the relevant verse 13 for you to see what the priest said about white skin. After the isolation for a series of seven days, the person whose skin had turned white was pronounced "CLEAN"!! :

Leviticus 13:13
Then the priest shall consider: and, behold, if the leprosy have covered all his flesh,
he shall pronounce him clean that hath the plague: it is all turned white: he is C-L-E-A-N.

Horus:

And you omited the white (blond hair) intentionaly because you know that the Canaanite have blond hair.

Leviticus 13 was not being addressed to the Canaanites.

Horus:

Everybody can see that you omited this "detail" (of course coincidence?)

Where is the verse in Leviticus 13 that mentions the Canaanites? Were Moses and Aaron (vs. 1) speaking to Canaanites? Were Canaanites brought to the priests? Please open your eyes and read - it costs nothing to be honest to yourself!

Horus:

Like a pet of your Caucasian Canaanite master you are desperate to protect him.

I have never been phobic to any other race. The problem with your black racists is that they have low IQs from their mental slavery; and have always been the first to beg others to "rescue Nubia" from their 500-year old self-inflicted mental slavery!

Horus:

Cannaan was an albinos.Canaan, was stricken with leprosy, thus acquiring a pale skin. The Pales-skinned races are descendants of Canaan.Canaanites[b] cannot [/b]reproduce what they don't have:[b]MELANIN[/B],because Melanin is not encoded in their DNA.
Canaan gave birth to the Pale race.

The Pale race, even after your derision and slobbers, are still your masters! Your melanin has not helped to cure your inability to read; nor even helped you advance yourself educationally; and day by day, the same melanin locked up in your racist DNA is causing you to dread "white skin" so much that you prefer being an antiquated slave to your 500 year-old phobia.

LOL @tlops. . . you no go kill me with laff!

Ahem!! Make I no start wahala!

Guys: if you vote for 'blocking' your babe in church, can you share with others why you'd rather go there than anywhere else?

If you vote outside the church, what "qualities interest you enough to chase one in your popular joint?

I was about asking why no one goes to mosque to seek the babes; but then I remember that men and women don't pray together in mosques!

Advertizing the Grail Message is a form of evangelizing.

E: stinger_gk3@yahoo.ca

alpha1616:

one is then forced to ask the question , Could all these be true

Dan Brown's work The Da Vinci Code is sitting where it belongs: the fiction shelf.

tlops:

looks like one of those pix up here!!

Lai-lai!! This one below can never be contained in showercap!!

dinner m:

its looks cool on some and on others,they look like,

They look like . . . what?

@Horus,

Taking over from Kuns, let me point out what you still haven't grasped:

Horus:

bari_kade link=topic=60028.msg1226554#msg1226554 date=1182532297:

So, if the Canaanites are caucasians who had the same ancestry from Noah, does that not make Abram a caucasian as well?

Not at all,because the Canaanites(Caucasians) started from Canaan

Canaan's lineage is traced back to the very same family from which Abram emerged:

          Gen. 9:18 -- And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark,
          were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.

Since Canaan's father (Ham) is from the same family as Abram's ancestry (Shem), they are from the same race that marks their patriarch Noah. Both Abraham and the Canaanites trace their lineage back to Noah.

Horus:

Canaan was cursed albino.(Leviticus 13:38)Canaan, was stricken with leprosy, thus acquiring a pale skin. The Pales-skinned races are descendants of Canaan.

The text you quoted does not refer to the Canaanites; and those it addresses are not called albinos; neither are they cursed. If you read the connecting verses, you find there that the people addressed are pronounced C.L.E.A.N  --

Leviticus 13: ³⁸If a man also or a woman have in the skin of their flesh bright spots, even white bright spots; ³⁹Then the priest shall look: and, behold, if the bright spots in the skin of their flesh be darkish white; it is a freckled spot that groweth in the skin; he is C.L.E.A.N.  (emphasis mine)

This text was addressing the children of Israel - descendants of ABRAHAM; and not the Canaanites! If anything at all, you need to worry that since those spoken of in this passage are caucasians, they are not cursed. Verse 13 speaks of them in this wise:

                 "Then the priest shall consider: and, behold, if the leprosy have covered all his flesh,
                 he shall pronounce him clean that hath the plague: it is all turned white: he is C.L.E.A.N."
(emphasis mine)

You can see this your phobia against anything "white" is blinding you to the fact that your fallacies are unwarranted by the very same chapter you referenced!

Horus:

For years, Libana (later known as Canaan), his wives and their children, along with their companions, dwelled in the cave, practicing all sorts of vile acts while no one knew that they even existed. When they first went into the caves, they had knowledge of the divine commandments of the The Annunaqi Eloheem (Genesis 26:5). As time passed, the descendants of Libana (Canaan) lost consciousness of themselves and began to live a beastly way of life. They became savages and remained in the Caucasus mountains.

You're describing your brothers, Horus. The savages I know of are still in Africa; and most of the "vile acts" you're complaining about are still part of their culture. 

@onyex,

Thanks for your calm response. Incidentally, I've tried to read the Grail Message, and my previous rejoinders bear my concerns. Please think upon what I've offered in regards to the intellect, perception and intuition.

Cheers.

denex:

Ah, you guys are even talking about guys weaving hair. What about Pastors perming hair and using hairnet to sleep and showercap to bathe? Is it right?

Haa!! Pastors perming hair: that one I know! No be only naija e dey happen sha.

Pastors wearing hairnet to sleep!! Na only naija e go happen!

Pastors using showercap to bathe? E be as e get. . . maybe our naija pastors don overtake those from whom they copy the art!

Lol @Kuns,

You're so predictable!    Did you not try to cheat on this debate by initially pretending that you were not discussing racism? Now you have come out in your true colours - and what more have you done than present the seething misanthropy of your black racist theories?

Kuns:

You have not yet address the facts of the scriptures which you claim you believe in to the subject matter.

I don't read you ever coming back to respond to those in your previous posts which I've already addressed! Do you care to be honest to yourself for once?

Kuns:

You still don't get it that according the laws of Abraham or Moses mixing the seed with the Cauasian is a sin not just biblically but also medically speaking.

I haven't come across any doctors who understand their medical vocation to sanction this racist drivel. People have married between races; and no one race has ever been adversely affected by such inter-marriages.

Kuns:

What you need to know is that the Most High didn't creat everybody on the planet that's why there are commandment by all the prophets of the Torah (old testament) not to mix your seed.

Anyone buying into your dishonest statements will fall for just about any lie a black racist fabricates.

              Deut. 4:32 "For ask now of the days that are past, which were before thee,
              since the day that God created man upon the earth, and ask from the one side of
              heaven unto the other, whether there hath been any such thing as this great thing
              is, or hath been heard like it?"

              Isaiah 45:12 - "I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands,
              have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded."

Kuns:

Bari is just arguing blindly

Thank you; and if you have more slobbers do not hesistate in posting them.

Kuns:

Why are there so many demoninasation? Because you are not keeping the commandments or really observing to do what all the law says to do. Some people don't even try to see the facts

Those who can see the facts know that denominations and demonisations are not the same thing; and such readers should long have understood that the same matrix used by these black racists folks produces the results of the word KUNS as coons - which is the common name for the North American raccoon aka Procyon lotor.

Kuns:

the source of their teaching, Egipt. Not the Egipt you see today in north eastern Africa and not the impersonators who reside there today, but pre-dynastic Egipt, which birthed the 46 dynasties.

How many Egypts have there been in history?

Kuns:

Of the 3 original races, the Negroid the first race, the Monoloid the second and the Caucasoid, the cursed, diseased race, archaeologist have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt the the oldest race is the Negroids. And what renders one a pure Negroid is their nappy hair or woolly hair, not the color of their skin, Their royal crown is the sign of the first race, The God Race, the one race, the only race or living beings on Earth with Nappy hair. We are the Mothers and fathers of all others.

See how your black racist clowns are deceiving you with their pretended superiority over other races?    Kunle, as a Yoruba man, you know that this description simply says that YOU don't have a nappy hair; and as a consequence, you're a fraud!  

Remember - your own arguement says that you don't qualify as a Negroid merely by skin colour! Now, following from all things considered in the fallacy you were spoon-fed, it only demonstrates that your own black racist clan is calling you a "fraud" if you pretend to have "nappy hair"! They may try to deceive you to make you believe that you have such hair. Ol' boy, pure and simple, you don't qualify!  

Kuns:

The word Negroid is from the latin word Negro from negrito meaning "black". The same as the word Moor from Maurenos, simply describing the Nuwbuns who after being mixed with invaders, became the Nubians, the mixed seed as you see today with many different shades of skin color and hair textures. But all are from the original seed of the Sudan.

 

So, from Egipt to Sudan! I can't laugh more. . Your fallacies are giving me belly-ache from laughing!  

Kuns:

Mixing the seed is a form of geneocide and the bible or original teaching of the Ancient Tamareans (falsely called Egipt) clearly forbides it.

Before we came to England most of our parent and grandparent warned us not to mix our seed. This is a genetical code response, that has been locked dominant in DNA.

Pity! The "parents" did not tell them not to go to England; but they're happy to raise alarm for a locked DNA! May God forgive the lies of these black racists against innocent parents!

Kuns:

Those still eating pork among us are not only weakening your immune systems and invariably your DNA and RNA. Many eggs of virus, bacteria and harmful micro-organisms reside deep under the skin of the swine and cannot be removed even with cleans. This causes many dseases including cancer and animal flesh takes 72 hours to be digested and expelled from the body causing putrefaction and the buildup of harmful bacteria thus creating diseases.

Hint: cancer is caused by other conditions; so that even people who don't eat pork products are also diagnosed with cancer.

Kuns:

The commandment have more sense in keeping them then you would realize. The cannanite cannot keep the commandment. They pretend to be the Children of the Mosh High, Why then did the Most High who created the sun to sustain all life not provide them with the necessary protection from the rays of the Sun. What, did he make a mistake

          Acts 17:24-27
         "God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven
         and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Neither is worshipped with
         men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath,
         and all things;

         And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth,
         and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
         That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though
         he be not far from every one of us."

Have the black racists ever asked themselves why they cannot survive cold regions while caucasians have well adapted to those regions?

Kuns:

Peaxy and all of you out there we are still under,

Check out http://www.petitiononline.com/Appeal/

"The International Appeal to Rescue Nubia And to stop Building the Kajbar Dam"

sign the petition show your support for the people of Nubian as we were originally called and still refered to in international circles

To all who read that appeal, please carefully consider these points before you sign a petition to sell your progeny:

      (a) what are you rescuing Nubia from?

      (b) if the appeal is another form of propaganda to promote ANY type of racism
           (especially black racism) please understand that your signature makes you
           a more sinister racist than any other type of racist!

Here goes another roundabout debate.

@jlee,

For heaven's sake, I beg you not to start this Constantine routine all over again - you will NOT be able to sustain this debate if you get me started! Rest your heart, Constantine is not the little horn; nor did he change times and laws in order to fit into some people's interpretation of Daniel's prophecy!!

jlee:

If your answer is no why then is the name of the son now been translated from YAHOSHUA to JESUS.
When JESUS is an Greck translation the hebrew name YAHOSHUA

Your arguement then supposes the Scriptures should never have been translated into other languages! I know some names that still retain their meanings even after they've been translated from language to language:

John (English) = Yohann (german)

James (English) = Kimo (Hawaiin)

Besides, when believers have prayed in the name of JESUS, has God answered and honoured that name or not?

@Kuns,

Kuns:

Mr Bari, You still are making no sense and have not addressed why there are so many denomination.

Please read this link: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-60028.0.html#msg1205940  There, stimulus first gave his answer to your question and there was no need for me to have repeated it. Following that, you entered the thread neither seeking to answer the question nor make any sense; and ever since, your roundabout propaganda is what we've been debated until now.

Kuns:

I think this topic is too much for you, as you have nothing original to add to it.

You wished it was too much; but my several comprehensive rejoinder to yours shows you've not been able to handle your tuff.

Kuns:

You seems to want to call other people who stand by, for and with their race racist. Well at least this is right racism.

There's nothing like "right racism" - and that is the poison that black racists like you have been enslaving their minds with. Your black racism is nothing better than what you might call 'wrong racism' when denouncing other races like the caucasians. My stand is that racism is wrong; and especially black racism is even more hideous. What black people do to themselves without the help of caucasians is inexplicably heinous.

Kuns:

Ok, God is racist , because he is for his race (people).

You ran to hammer another propagandist theory to make God seem to be racsit; but such antics are a bit embarassing to your low IQ. Even as the black man you are, it further lowers your dignity because like your racist clan, it is only demonstrates that your scholarship to read doesn't measure up to the average required of elementary school pupils.

Kuns:

Or why do you think God told Abramham[/b]o tell his son's not to marry from amongst the Cannanites (caucasians) Genesis 28 : 1 and I quote

Genesis 28 : 1
" 1: Then Isaac called Jacob and blessed him, and charged him, "You shall not marry one of the Canaanite women."

See Genesis 24 : 3
": and I will make you swear by the LORD, the God of heaven and of the earth, that you will not take a wife for my son from the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I dwell"

[b]This is God telling Abramham not to pollute his Gene (blood).

This is why black racists shame their own genes with your low IQ. Why not try and be honest to yourself for once? God did not "tell Abraham" what you allege in those verses; and to force it to read like that is such a sad adventure coming from you.

By calling the Canaanites 'caucasians', do you realize that YOU are making Abraham a caucasian as well?  

Trace Abraham's lineage:

         (a) Abram descended from Terah - Gen. 11:27

         (b) Terah's father was Nahor* -  Gen. 11:24
               (*Terah also named one of his sons Nahor - vs. 26)

         (c) Nahor's father was Serug - Gen. 11:22

         (d) Serug's father was Reu - Gen. 11:20

         (e) Reu was begotten by Peleg - Gen. 11:18

          (f) Peleg's father was Eber - Gen. 10:25

         (g) Eber descended from Shem - Gen. 10:21

         (h) Shem's father was Noah - Gen. 5:32

          (i) Noah was the father of Shem's brothers: Ham and Japhet - Gen. 6:10.

So, Abram's lineage is traced to the very same people called the Canannites who also have the same ancestry as Abram:

         Gen. 9:18 -- And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark,
         were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the [i]father of Canaan.[/i]

So, if the Canaanites are caucasians who had the same ancestry from Noah, does that not make Abram a caucasian as well?  

Read the verses you quoted again: they did not say that it was "God telling Abram" to tell his sons not to marry from caucasians. Why you guys are so phobic to caucasians is a wonder itself - not to even mention that your black brothers are so barbaric to THEMSELVES under this racist phobia in most parts of Africa!

Kuns:

The christian chruches of today are doing exactly the opposite to what their bibles are saying. They have eyes but they cannot see.

The Christian Churches are not following your drivel, especially when you're forcing black racist phobic ideas into the Bible where those verses do not say what you allege.

Kuns:

See Deuteronomy 7: 3,4
"You shall not make marriages with them, giving your daughters to their sons or taking their daughters for your sons.
4: For they would turn away your sons from following me, to serve other gods; then the anger of the LORD would be kindled against you, and he would destroy you quickly."

I'm grateful you mentioned Deuteronomy 7:3-4. The question as to not inter-marrying with the seven nations greater than Israel (vs. 1) was because of their idolatry - and not because of skin colour. Nowhere did God predicate this injunction on skin colour; and reading other verses only help clarify this issue:

                 Deut. 18:12 - For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD:
                 and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out
                 from before thee.

                 Lev. 18:24 - Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these
                 the nations are defiled which I cast out before you.

Kuns:

Mr bari what do you know about Melannin? What is Melanin-recessive and Melanin positive?

I know that much about melanin to understand that the caucasians are not inferior in any way to blacks who see themselves as superior racists! If you have concerns about melanin, please post them - and where you try to attack anyone (black or white), I will spare nothing in showing just how ugly black racists can be to themselves. I hope it won't have to come to that; but please end this racist stupidity under the melanin excuse for your own good!

Kuns:

Why do you think Jesus was trying to avoid the Cannanite(Caucasian) women? Well, does it ever occur to you that he knew the laws of Abramham and Moses.

Matthew 15 : 24
" And Jesus went away from there and withdrew to the district of Tyre and Sidon.
22: And behold, a Canaanite woman from that region came out and cried, "Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David; my daughter is severely possessed by a demon."
23: But he did not answer her a word. And his disciples came and begged him, saying, "Send her away, for she is crying after us."

Look Mr Bari, Jesus said send her away, does this look like someone who came to save the whole world.

First of all, it wasn't Jesus who said to "send her away"; it was rather the disciples ("his disciples came and begged him, saying, "Send her away" - vs. 23).

Secondly, Jesus was not trying to "avoid" her. He stated His reason for His action: "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel" - vs. 24. This principle is well attested to in the Bible - "to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile" (Rom. 2:10).

Jesus came to save the world - and He would first go to the Israelites FIRST - for the simple reason that "salvation is of the Jews" (John 4:22). When He rose from the dead, He said:

               "And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer,
               and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission
               of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at
               Jerusalem." (Luke 24:46-47).

Kuns:

He also called her a dog in Matthew 15 : 26
And the woman knew she was a dog , at least they have the similar type of hair (Furs) with dogs.

The woman did not have furs; and this derogatory term you black racists use against caucasians is one reason why I as a black person stand absolutely opposed to any black person who is equally as racist as the whites racists he pretends to fight. One thing I diavow about blacks: they cannot even try to be honest to themselves; and such display of dishonesty is why I have no apologies for any racist at all - especially YOU.  

The case of mentioning dog in that verse was in inference to what the Canaanites stood for: utter idolatory. Even though she was coming from such a nation characteristically given over to idolatory, the Lord Jesus still granted her wish and healed her daughter - Matt. 15:28 - "Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour."

Kuns:

Maybe Jesus was racist? God, Abramham, Issac and Jacob are all racist!

They are clearly not racists; and I've shown that the verses you quoted for your derogation do not say at all what you have tried to forcefully read into them.

Kuns:

The original Israelites are blacks? Do some research ,

From the verses you quoted for your drivel, I've shown that they have one common ancestry - if Canaanites were caucasians, so was Abram who traces his ancestry to Noah!

Kuns:

These Jews you see today claiming to be Jews are Frauds.

So are the black racists pretending promoting this propaganda - you're all frauds. There's just no reason for you to deride anyone in order to promote your black racism.

Kuns:

Revelation 2 : 9
""`I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan."

Revelation 3 : 9
"Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie -- behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and learn that I have loved you."

All you need to do is ask who are those people claiming to be Jews today and who are those people who pray in synagogues? They are a stock of Hindus called Hyksos , Jebusites (Jew)

The Jews are not "a stock of Hindus". Hindus are not a race; and several races worship as Hindus! So the idea that anyone could be a stock of a religion is a laugh!  

One of the blessings of reading the Lord's Prayer in Matthew 6:9-13 is that it speaks to my heart that no matter how far advanced one might consider himself/herself in the Christian might, we should never forget that a childlike spirit is of great value before God.

That prayer is one of the simplest prayer; and for me, it's not just a principle, but actually a prayer. Matt. 6:9 presents us with the principle ("After this manner therefore pray ye: "; but Luke 11:2 presents us with the prayer itself where the Lord Jesus said to His disciples (grown men): "When ye pray, SAY. . ."

As a prayer, it is so simple that any child could SAY it. It is as well rich in meaning and covers huge concerns in our relationship both with God and men.

This prayer has blessed me in its simplicity in reminding me of three things anytime I pray:

(a) it's a simple prayer; therefore, my prayers should be as simple and void of sophistication. I believe this is why in that same Matt. 6:7, the Lord cautioned against any tendency I might have to sound sophisticated: "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."

(b) it's a prayer of relationship; therefore I should avoid playing "religion" in approaching God in prayer. The first thing to remember is that God is my FATHER; and as such, I should ever be conscious of the divine relationship He has granted me with Him.

(c) it's a lifestyle prayer; and as such I should remember to live according to the longings expressed in my prayers rather than live contrary to what I pray! Psalm 19:14 says: "Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer." It is no wonder that immediately following the Lord's Prayer in Matt. 6:13, He cautions in vs. 13: "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you"

There are other blessings that are in the Lord's Prayer; but these are a few of those that are constantly in my heart whenever I seek God in prayer.