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feedthenation:
---it seems only yourself and few MAGAs still believe Trump won the 2020 election---even 'MAGAMAX' tv channel put out a disclaimer after interview with Trump recently---get over it Trump lost in 2020---and he will lose in a magatastic way in 2024 if he becomes the GOP presidential candidate---

https://news.yahoo.com/entertainment/newsmax-runs-2020-election-disclaimer-035318989.html

After airing an interview in which Donald Trump denied he lost the 2020 election, Newsmax's Eric Bolling reads a statement from the network:

"Now just a note. Newsmax has accepted the election results as legal and final" pic.twitter.com/Paq9WC9d7b

— aliciasadowski (@aliciasadowski6) August 10, 2023

You are good people like many of us who are tangential to your point if view.
Ill respond later Statistically JB numbers can never win election. Counties win vs history, 19 Bellweather histories, Dominion adjucated spoilt votes, 18m more than St Jesus of Chicago aka Obama.... Rotten stench of a possible JB win.
I'll get a concise summary of media fact checked five doubts JB won . Later.

bemeruca:
In other words you don't have a job. You spend way too much time here because of your emotions. Your hormones should be fully charged because it's that time of the month for you. Take a break and chill out. Look for something to do.

Look at the time. I am just about to go home from work. From the time, you can only guess where I am.

Stop kidding us by changing the time on your windows XP machine.
You cannot be in America. Are you mad? How can you be in America when your PH parking lot has no photo of a $300k Lincoln infront of a dilapidated building.
Don't lie. Who can grant a visa to a PH guy to the hallowed grounds of America?

Further more you are on 4G. ie LTE.
To use our high school slang then

"Us guys use 5G. You be so shady to screenshot 4G'

wirinet:
So Mike Pence who was a Republican far before Trump, who was a governor and house of representatives member is now a traitor the minute he decided to do the right thing and not follow the criminal instructions of his criminal boss. According to MAGA cult, the only patriots in the US is Donald Trump who incidentally ran away from laying his life to fight for the US and would not allow any member of his family to fight for US. Mike Pence is a traitor for not declaring Trump winner and himself vice president in an election he knew they clearly lost?

You drivel is so senseless that it borders on schizophrenia. What you wrote and insinuated makes no sense whatsoever.
What Pence said is exactly what the article you linked said 100%.
Let me itemise what process for Objecting Electoral College results entail according to the link you quoted

1. One House member and one Senator submit an objection.
2. The two chambers of Congress separate to debate for two hours and to vote on whether to continue counting the votes in light of the objection.
3. Both chambers must vote by a simple majority to concur with the objection for it to stand, otherwise the objection fails.
4. If both chambers of Congress affirm the objection and the objection results in no one candidate receiving the necessary 270-vote Electoral College majority, the 12th Amendment dictates a congressional process for selecting a president and vice president.


5. The House of Representatives votes to elect the new president. As a bloc, members of the House cast one vote per state, choosing between the three candidates who received the most Electoral College vote

6. The Senate votes to elect the Vice President, casting one vote per senator.

What Pence said is that there would be chaos in the house of representatives, why? Because the house of representatives was controlled by Pelosi led Democratic Party.

Ironically, under this scenario, Pence would retain his Vice Presidency as the Senate then was controlled by Republicans.

Don't trade insults. You are on the right path of interpreting what the process should be. As you have agreed, in the votes it's not about who has majority members in the two houses. Each state One vote. Eg California has 52 members in Congress out of the 435 house of Congress. California when it comes to this last vote gets only 1 vote. Remember each state One vote.
After electoral objections are raised.
GOP has more states than the lefties.A per vote per state count, GOP wins.

Pence the RINO knew this, he is obfuscating this fact using legal largesse.
Had he allowed the house of representatives to vote based on what you have clearly stated, ie one state One vote. Not numbers in Congress, Trump would be the President. How nice. Russia and Ukraine would not be fighting. Trump would have armed Ukraine with lethal weapons but would not have added it to NATO.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Now tell me, if there was a path where the President Temporary ie Traitor Pence would have considered the objectors, delayed the counting for ( 10 days?) And asked those states to address the fraud org now we know it's the likes of Zuckerbucks or GBI associates perpetrated?

wirinet:
Pence letter to the Senate detailing his position. Take note of the first paragraph of the second page.

Don't care what traitor Pence says.
This is the correct position as pertains the construction.

https://ballotpedia.org/Can_members_of_Congress_object_to_Electoral_College_results%3F_(2020)



Can members of Congress object to Electoral College results? (2020)
This article covers subjects specific to the 2020 general election. It has not been updated to reflect subsequent developments.
.

On January 6 of each year following a presidential election, Congress convenes a joint session to count electoral votes and confirm the result of the presidential election. Congress has the discretion to move the date of the session by law, as it did in 2013 when the joint session was held on January 4. In these sessions, according to the Electoral Count Act of 1887, members of Congress may object to statewide election results or specific electoral votes in a particular state or the District of Columbia.

Specifically, during the session one member of the U.S. House and one member of the U.S. Senate must submit a written objection after the body reads the vote count from a particular state or D.C.

Once a House member and Senator submit an objection, the two chambers of Congress separate to debate for two hours and to vote on whether to continue counting the votes in light of the objection. Both chambers must vote by a simple majority to concur with the objection for it to stand, otherwise the objection fails.



Further on, it states that the house vote does not depend on the numbers.
Each state One vote. Conservatives had more states than lefties. ( I may be wrong)

As a bloc, members of the House cast one vote per state, choosing between the three candidates who received the most Electoral College votes. The Senate votes to elect the Vice President, casting one vote per senator.

Now I'm sure you can see the importance of the pipe bomb. Just 10 minutes before Ray Epps cohorts broke down the barricades, Pelosi was informed about discovery of the two pipe bombs. That was also just before the objections were raised. She quickly adjourned the proceedings Only to reconvene it later under an Emergency Session. The pipe bomber has never been found and will never be found. No media talks about him. Most likely a Fed.

wirinet:
The guy is really annoying. He seems to be trying too hard to please his employers. If you listened to the twitter video Pence never said or insinuated that that there is a legal process for anything, what he said was that if he rejected the votes as was presured and blackmailed by Trump and his crackpot lawyers (he used the adjective crackpot deliberately to highlight the illegality of their scheme), then the issue would have gone to the house of representatives which would have led to chaos.

Wirinet, the Twitter video by Posobiec. Pence clearly says he would have been forced to turn the elections over to the House of Representatives.He did not because he feared chaos would break out.

If some house rep and senate rep voice an objection, the full house has to discuss the objection for I think two hours.
This might have been changed recently .
Jam 6 . An objection was raised. Immediately the pipe bomb was found and Pelosi adjourned seasion.On resumption Pence did not have any power to give the objectors a chance since it was now an emergency session. Those are facts the libtard media narrative cannot let you know.

PDPGuy:
Yup
These things are cyclical. Aside from taxes, the US President doesn’t control the economy

So much for the US economy.

Rating agency peer Fitch has downgraded the United States by a notch to AA+ due to fiscal deterioration over the next three years and repeated down-to-the-wire debt ceiling negotiations.
Moody's cut the ratings of 10 banks by one notch and placed six banking giants, including Bank of New York Mellon (BK.N), US Bancorp (USB.N), State Street (STT.N) and Truist Financial (TFC.N) on review for potential downgrades.Moody's downgraded Commerce Bank, BOK Financial, M&T Bank, Old National Bank, Prosperity Bank, Amarillo National Bank, Webster Financial, Fulton Financial, Pinnacle Financial and Associated Bank.

House Committee released bank details of Hunter Biden foreign incomes bribery.
$20 million traced so far from Russian, Ukrainian and Kazakhstan sources while JB was VP.
After these suspicious payioffs these Oligarchs had dinner with Joe Biden in Washington DC.
Joe Biden says he never discussed Hunter business dealings.

House will subpoena for Joe Biden bank records, if they refuse to avail, impeachment process will be started.

Don't forget McCarthy seems to a RINO. He has all the 44000 hours of video footage for Jan 6.Smith is not indictiing Trump for the riots. Most likely he knows the inciters were feds who have not been arrested
Sham DC indictment.

Obrigardo:
Why are you shaking like a cold fish?
If criminal trump is innocent, why don't you let it play out? Maga cultist

What about you? Bitter raving lunatic deranged,, Stoopid, blind worshipping leftie.

Obrigardo:
When I say you are a complete joke, I'm not wrong.
You've twisted yourself so much that you are even making a better case for Jack Smith. So criminal trump can't deny he pressured pence to install his fake electors. Lol

Pence indirectly confirms there is a legal path for the VP to turn over certification of electors to the House of Representatives.

Dumbfuck.He said he feared the chaos that would follow not whether doing that as illegal.

I want the DC trial to start. I bet the first defence witness will be Nancy Pelosi

IjeBos:
Twitter fined $350K for failing to produce Trump account info in 2020 election probe

Subpoenas are not optional. Reason #151 why prosecuting Trump for Obstruction of Justice and not abiding by his subpoena was necessary. Can't believe Twitter thought it was a good idea not to abide and not to have the cover of an appeal to do it.

The special counsel obtained a search warrant in January for Donald Trump’s Twitter account as part of the election interference investigation.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/09/us/politics/trump-twitter-account-search-warrant.html?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20230809&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline&regi_id=75289398&segment_id=141547&user_id=41c9d58298cfae5beaf0adde0a0b0423

You are behind news. All of I think 56k tweets he made on twatter are on another public platform. Shows desperation by Jack.
He got an order from Judge Beryl Howell , an Obama appointee blocking Twitter from informing Trump of this subpoena, he also admitted that he erred claiming Trump was a flight risk.
Don't forget Trump can subpoena for any communications from anyone once trial starts.

IjeBos:
He's acting like he has an option. If he is subpoenaed he has to testify. He'll lose if he fights it. I believe whatever privileges he has won't survive the crime/fraud exception. So, his more political advantageous path is to act like he's doing it for law and order.

Pence admits he could have turned the results over to the House of the Reps but he did not want chaos.Which means there is a legal process for that.
He be no testify , thanks to the video on this iink.

Watch this clip

Pence just accidentally admitted he could have turned the 2020 election over to the House of Representatives but he didn't because he was worried about 'chaos'

That means he admits he knew that he had the legal ability to do that pic.twitter.com/0hHRHLQdq6

— Jack Posobiec (@JackPosobiec) August 7, 2023

I'm still posting about the foolishness of the Dems regarding Trump DC indictment.This is an interesting story. Here it goes.

In 2017 Devin Nunes House Committee was investigating the Russian hoax collusion. They knew that Cris Steele had been paid by someone Cris Steele was paid by Fusion GPS ,who were in turn paid by the lawfirm Perkins Coie representing the Clinton campaign.In other words Clinton paid for the Steele dossier that FBI used to target and spy on Donald Trump
Nunes Committee subpoenad for the Fusion GPS bank records. They filed an appeal at the Federal court to block this. The appeal landed on a Judge Chutkan who , wonder of all wonders, is the terribly biased presiding judge in this Trump DC trial.
Judge Chutkan was forced to recuse herself from this case after a month of Nunes/Kash Patel litigating. Reason.
She was previously a partner at a law firm,Boies Schiller Flexner that had Fusion GPS as it's client 😀😀.
Chutkan was a partner at Boies, Schiller & Flexner from 2007 till 2013 when Obama nominated her to Federal DC
law corruption courts.
Gets even better.
A prominent person who had worked at that same lawfirm with Chutkan from 2009-2014 as an attorney, you can't make this stuff up is..... Hunter Biden ! !

IjeBos:
You should stop posting and take a break. This is incoherent as is much of what you write.
If you are paid to post this, you are not helping your employers, you sound nuts. Take a break from posting.
If you aren't, you are nuts, take a break from posting, it may help you.

Don't just write it off. Remember I always prove myself right. It's just a bone that I throw once in a while. The brutal truth will be out in the open one day
I fear for you. Notice that I have also thrown in a name and how she was being paid.

1stGenAmerican:
Jack Smith won’t be indicting anyone from the fictional 2016 election crimes. We’ve moved on to 2020.

All the state sanctioned illegal acts by the democrats hi are never prosecuted, you should know that.
I meant if you bothered, that the indictment by Jack Smith would have applied to all those I showed denying electoral results of 2016.

In other news , now that Trump has been indicted He has subpoena powers. First off the block. The J6 sham committee. As of yesterday they have deleted all testimonies they deem fit, testimonies they used to draw up accusation against Trump.
Next Trump will produce evidence of election malpractices of 2020. I know your likes say that all 60 petitions were thrown out. This is the actual status of the electoral challenges by Trump

57 cases were never heard
2 Trump won
1 Trump lost.

All cases were thrown out of technicalities, no standing, too late etc. Judges were looking for a single clause to not hear the cases.
This time if this DC case goes to trial , Trump has the opportunity to produce his evidence on record. I doubt that Jamaican judge will let him

I think I saw somewhere that Michigan had an investigation into sham voter registration to the tune of tens of thousands of ballots . A certain black woman identified as Brianna Hawkins being paid $1150 per week to sign up voters. Most of the thousands of forms she submitted had same handwriting, fake addresses suct that Michigan PD opened an investigation. The FBI took over the case and buried it. Then FBI went ahead to craft a scheme to kidnap Greiten.
Subpoena power will expose these shenanigans.

1stGenAmerican:
Did you take any time to research McGonigal’s stance and opinion before composing this reply? Obviously you didn’t.

Tell us, what was he really thinking? His innermost thoughts?
I'm made to understand that he was lead investigator in a case where foreign spies were doxxed and liquidated. He s a top level traitor to FBI l

bemeruca:
I have never seen anyone who loves abortion like you do. Sicko.

She loves baby murder.
Paid troll or a influencer I think. Lying that she has a degree in law.Never posted anything of substance regarding the law.

Obrigardo:
You always shoot yourself in the foot. I told you, you have gone literally loco.
Give it up to the FBI for indicting the crook, because they are going to later find out the why the russian oligarch was funneling money into criminal trump.
So, what's the point of raising this up if it does make you sound hypocritical and shameless.

Sick puppy. This FBI guy is paid by Russians, yet he was investigating Russian efforts to aid Trump, which never existed

IjeBos:
So many "coincidences" with Trump and Russia.

How about this .

FBI Special Agent Who Investigated Trump-Russia Collusion Arrested for… Conspiring with Russian Oligarch

FBI Special Agent Charles McGonigal is expected to plead guilty next week to conspiring with a Russian oligarch



The investigator is a the one colluding. Repeat. Projection at its finest. What democrats accuse you of is exactly what they are doing

John Podesta who loves pizza had simulated the actions to take had Trump been declared winner in 2020 election. They wanted to send separate electors for Certification.

Images below.

Full Document here

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/7013152-Preventing-a-Disrupted-Presidential-Election-and

IjeBos:
FACT CHECK
This is a deluge of BS.
Judge Cannon is known for a few things.
1.) Being an unqualified Trump appointee
2.) Her lack of experience of a Judge - has only 14 hours of trial time
3.) Her incompetence as a judge - forgot to swear in a Jury pool forcing her to have to redo it.
https://abovethelaw.com/2023/08/trump-judge-aileen-cannons-mistakes-just-keep-on-piling-on/
4.) All above lead her to be a Trump toadie who tried to help him in the Special Master case when this case originally started. She did it so incompetently, getting the basic law wrong, she was excoriated by the Conservative 11th circuit court of Appeals. (Google her in this thread for previous posts)
Appeals Court Smacks Down Judge Who Ruled for Trump Over FBI
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/12/appeals-court-nixes-outside-review-of-seized-trump-documents.html
5.) This new ruling is legally deficient. She is again acting like a defiance attorney for Trump. If she wanted more openness in their briefs, that is one thing. But by unsealing Jack Smith's motions and not discussing her motion in a sealed ruling she revealed a SECRET grand jury. It is illegal to reveal a grand jury. Her ruling will most likely get appealed.

Some good legal minds and a reporter on this.

Those legal scholars and the ones who commented on threads platform have only donated to Democrats . Weissman being a Deep state, was the chief inquisitor in Mueller hoax , had 80000plus Enron workers lose their jobs in a ruling unanimously overturned by the Supreme Court and a whole lot of misdeeds.
All are democrat donors gnashing their teeth over a judge who ruled favorably to Trump.

Andrew Weissman
https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Andrew+Weissman&cycle=2020&state=&zip=&employ=&occupation=&jurisdiction=&cand=&type=


Kurt Eichenwald
https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Kurt+Eichenwald

Lawrence Tribe
https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Lawrence+Tribe+

Kathyrn Rubino...Author of that article you quoted

https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Kathryn+Rubino

As for the judicial composition of the judges in DoJ, judges appointed by the Democrat presidents are overwhelmingly in the majority.

Some interesting stats on how the democrats dominate the serving judges appointments.

US District Court of Columbia
15 judges, 7 by Obama, 4 to be by Biden. 75% leftie judges.

DC circuit of Appeals : 7 out of 11 judges appointed by Obama and Biden.

Throughout USA, District Judges number 667. Obama and Biden have appointed 371 with 63 more awaiting Biden to fill for a total of 434 leftie Judges .

MentalCase98:
Thug face Jack Smith is going to lose badly AGAIN. He is a serial loser in courts.

Such a dishonest crooked prosecutor used and out-of-state grand jury to indict Trump in Florida because he didn’t want a fair grand jury.

I have no doubt this Florida case is already a dud.

LOSER Jack Smith.

In Florida the Judge also struck down his application to seal 80 or so witness. That means a crooked witness can just show up and give evidence.... with the defence not having done any background checks on the witnesses.
Complete thuggery.
In DC Jackboot does not want to reveal exculpatory info to Trump unless Trump agrees to keep it secret. No cameras in courtroom also.Should the general public not know what evidence will be presented?

Jackboot Smith sham Washington DC indictment.

Former Capitol Hill officer says Jan 6 was a setup.

In Florida, Judge Cannon has liberal heads exploding after asking Jackboot to explain why he used a grand jury out of Florida to investigate.

Mike Pence accidentally admits he had power to send back electors to the House of Representatives but he was afraid of chaos brekaing out had he done so. He is caught in a lie

Watch this clip

Pence just accidentally admitted he could have turned the 2020 election over to the House of Representatives but he didn't because he was worried about 'chaos'

That means he admits he knew that he had the legal ability to do that pic.twitter.com/0hHRHLQdq6

— Jack Posobiec (@JackPosobiec) August 7, 2023

/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1688636885898231808&currentTweetUser=JackPosobiec

Cases imploding one by one
Georgia indictment might be out this week

Lies pushed by the left

Abortion care is safe
Abortion care Is necessary.
Abortion care is normal
Abortion care is a human right.

Wokeness being brought to a screeching halt. By Elon Musk.
X formerly known as Twitter pledges to sue on behalf of anyone unfairly punished for posting/liking a tweet.
Holy cow 75million views and 572k likes
😀😀😀😀

Where rich conversations are "criminal Trump is the worst ever, his economy is the worst, he killed millions from COVID-19 And he will die in jail".

Obrigardo:
I think he has done well to provide the evidence to you. Please act accordingly as you have always done so we can continue our rich conversations.

cc: Mynd44, mukina2, HumbledbYGrace, osystein

19. Don't use alternate accounts to access Nairaland after being banned. If you do, make sure we don't find out.

If Trump is indicted for questioning the 2020 election results, should all these people be indicted as well? #LockHerUp #TwoTieredJustice

Video Credit: TK News pic.twitter.com/vabEM3SpKV

— Bill Ellmore 𝕏 (@Ellmore) August 6, 2023

/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1687988391986540544&currentTweetUser=BillEllmore

All these claimed 2016 elections were stolen/ hacked by Russians. There were violent protests in some parts of the democrats hell holes

Jack Smith should indict all these.

MentalCase98:
Nobody is scared of senile old Joe. Imagine this happening under Trump. Something tells me china is preparing for a war or some type of confrontation. They have been making some funny mens lately.

China and Russia be no scared of Biden. In a nuclear war China can afford to lose 300 million people, Can the Americans afford that?
My best bet would China takes over Taiwan. Next they have a historical WWII grudge with Japan. Chinese love revenge .
I think for now they want to see how far the US will go to protect their interests

MentalCase98:
The fact the crooked Judge won’t let the trial be televised or allow access for Trump friendly media tells you everything about this kangaroo court.

I’m not to worried about the DC case though. What ever ruling the crooked judge gives will be overturned by the SC. But I know wacko liberals will hit the streets protesting the SC and threatening to kill Kavanaugh again when that happens.

Russian Putin has harrassed, jailed and tried to poison his opposition candidate. Recentky added him 19 more years for some offences

What does the good moral USA govt do? Democrats will always accuse you of doing what they themselves are doing It's projection its finest.

feedthenation:
--- Trump also had his appointee Judge Aileen Jackson--- who has given Trump special priviledges on the classified document case---

What particular special privellege did she give Trump?

MentalCase98:
Was there ever any doubt?

Trump wants trial televised .
Judge is hostile to him, jury most likely all democrat activists
Smith wants Trump gagged from revealing exculpatory evidence availed to the defence
If no televused, judge will allow AP, CNN, MSNBC, Wapo,and other anti trump journos to cover the proceedings
Joe Biden is a puppet, There are people pulling strings behind his back.Extreme lawlfare against Trump.They want him dead in prison.
The judge trying this case. She is a Biden donor

IjeBos:
So, I can walk into your house, sit on your couch and start saying whatever I want and when you tell me to leave, I can just tell you, "No, I have freedom to express myself" and you have to let me stay and speak?

You should try deliberating with yourself first or "think" as we call it. You wouldn't write should breathtakingly stupid stuff.

And don't mention me in the same sentence with your daughters again. You won't like what I have to say.

Threats. I look or sound like someone scared of words.

Go slow, hold your horses. You are dwelling on irrelevances
We debate Murica here, yahoo boys be scared being exposed.

IjeBos:
So it is "elitism" to believe everyone should be treated equally and follow the rules?
Why should Ben and someone like Slyfoxx be treated differently than every other poster here who follows the rules?
He broke the rules here, got banned and just created a new username to continue breaking the rules.
I understand because he is incapable of controlling himself he may seem the victim. But he is not a victim.

But thanks for the clarification of why the Republican party is in the shambles it is and supports Trump. Clearly, you feel rules don't apply to you. Tell me how well that is working out for Nigeria.

Freedom to express yourself is a guarantee.You don't want them, unfortunately Sein has not provided a platform where you can block OPs and not see what you post. A feature WordPress allows, Sein has his own homegrown website.
Deal with it. Ship up or ship out.
I actually enjoying deliberating with some people, builds up on how I advice my 3 girls advice , they are about to face the world on their own Yahoo boys like you will be on my scope.