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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:45am On Jul 28, 2023
MentalCase98:
You noticed this too right? Its like clockwork. Every fucking time a bad story breaks for the Bidens, they hit Trump with another flimsy indictment just to create a media blackout.

Anybody who can’t see this is a fool. Hunter Biden’s plea deal falls apart on Thursday, Devon Archer testimony is on Monday so they hit Trump with an indictment in-between to create a distraction for their lackeys in the media.

It’s amazing. Only the morons and Biden ass-suckers on this thread will say they don’t see this trend. This is not the first or 10th time this is happening.
But but but Hunter is not the president.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
TIPSHEET
Newly Uncovered Emails Don't Look Good for Hunter Biden
Spencer Brown
Spencer Brown
July 27, 2023 2:00 PM

AP Photo/Julio Cortez
We all know Hunter Biden's laptop from hell was a treasure trove of illicit and icky emails, photos, and more that provided a picture into the troubled life and wild extracurriculars of the son of Senator-turned-VP-turned-President of the United States Joe Biden. But new emails — not obtained from Hunter's laptop — reported by Insider show that the First Kid's practice of using his proximity and access to then-VP Biden for supposedly personal business was an apparently lucrative pay-for-power scheme.

In two previously unreported emails "sent by business contacts of Hunter Biden" unearthed by Insider, the younger Biden requested an annual retainer of $2 million to help recover billions in Libyan assets frozen by the Obama administration in which Hunter's father was second-in-command.

In one email sent on January 28, 2015, "Sam Jauhari, a Democratic donor with businesses in the Persian Gulf, who was helping spearhead the Libya project" wrote to "Sheikh Mohammed al-Rahbani, another Obama campaign donor involved in the proposal." Here's what the email said:

Per phone conversation I met with #2 son ( Hunter Biden) . He wants $2m per year retainer +++ success fees. He wants to hire his own people - it can be close circle of people for confidentiality. His dad is deciding to run or not.

His positives are he is Chairman of UN World Food Program, son of #2 who has Libya file, access to State, Treasury, business partner SofS [Secretary of State] J. [John] Forbes K [Kerry] son and since he travels with dad he is connected everywhere in Europe and Asia where M. Q. [Muammar Qaddafi] and LIA [Libya Investment Authority] had money frozen. He said he has access to highest level in PRC ie China he can help there.

His negatives are that he is alcoholic, drug addict - kicked [out] of U.S. Army for cocaine, chasing low class hookers, constantly needs money-liquidity problems and many more headaches.


There you go. Hunter Biden was using his last name to make business deals. Liar in chief lies that he never talked to his son about his business
Now the tune has changed. Joe Biden now says he was not in business with his son.Devin Archer testimony will confirm Joe Biden called Hunter at least 24 times in the middle of crackpot business meetings.
When Devon testifies, Trump will be indicted
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:49am On Jul 28, 2023
IjeBos:
The details in this new indictment. shocked
IAmerica law. You live there, so you must know this.
A member of the bar who has. Drug addiction, has engaged in tax fraud and has threatened to use his political influence to extort other individuals.
Is this person fit to be an honorable member of say DC bar!
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:37am On Jul 28, 2023
Obrigardo:
If this was anyone who tried to delete evidence to evade the prosecutors, he will be in jail at this moment, even before they even charge him to court. Criminal trump keeps flinging disgusting vermin and lies, while he is still a free man and idiotic fellows think the criminal is spotless innocent. Any other person would be in JAIL right about now.
Anytime Biden gets negative reviews the deep state turns the screws on Trump.
As we head into the weekend, the only news will be Trump not Hunter Biden prosecutorial corruption
On Monday Devon Archer who is in hiding and afraid of his life might testify to House Committee. Should this happen on whatever day , expect the DC indictment of Trump to be unsealed to water down his evidence of Biden crimes.
Georgia indictment will also be timed to take away the heat from the Biden family negative news.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:45pm On Jul 27, 2023
IjeBos:
Don't run away. Tell me again how the Judge rejected Hunter's deal. Tell me how that belief fits with her f'king WORDS . Or just be a man and admit you were fooled again like the FOOL you are.
Simpleton. This is my understanding.
Hunter Biden lawyers had crafted a deal where tax evasion ( eventually paid) was reduced to two misdemeanors
And for the gun charge Hunter was to be on good behavior for two years.
Judge wanted to know whether other charges would be forthcoming ie FARA.. which directly connect to his dad.
Prosecution said case was ongoing. Hunter Biden lawyer were aghast.
Turns out the deal was Hunter to go jail free if he pled to two misdemeanors AND immunity on any future charges to be brought along.
Judge saw thru.. they wanted her to accept the plea deal that would have ensured no more investigations of Hunter esp on FARA .
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:58pm On Jul 27, 2023
wirinet:
Sp what's your grouse now. Should you not be happy that the wheel of justice is grinding slowly but surely? So what exactly concerns Joe Biden that warrants an impeachment inquiry in this case? If Hunter Biden is found guilty of breaking US, I support he face the full extent of the law, including jail time. It does nor require legislative investigation yo prosecute Hunter Biden or any other private US citizen.
In your mind you think there is nothing to see.
Hunter Biden got cash from foreign countries using the Biden name. Influence peddling, pay to play for JB.
He hid the money in shell taxes, they let the statue of limitations expire by slow walking some serious tax evasion.
He would have come clean with taxes, it follows that Joe Biden is compromised by China esp
Can you imagine a president of USA being remote controlled or rather blackmailed by China and Ukraine?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
wirinet:
So you need an impeachment inquiry in order to ask FBI and DOJ to investigate an alleged Bribery crime? Why is it so difficult to invite the officers directly involved in the investigations for questioning? Why is the investigations only about whistleblowers? To prosecute a case you need actual evidence. 100 whistleblowers without concrete evidence cannot lead to indictment not to talk of conviction. Till today, the Republican led investigations have not revealed who did the bribings, documents and money trail that connect to Joe Biden or even video or audio recordings of Joe taking bribes. What evidence to you guys think is admissible in court to support your Bribery allegations?
Wirinet, Hunter Biden pled not guilty to two charges of tax misdemeanors, the case is ongoing. As for his sweetheart deal meant to keep him out of prison on the gun charges. The judge angrily denied this plea.
The prosecution wanted to slip in an immunity deal for any future charges that may be brought up against Hunter the crackhead
The judge refused this. Set the following conditions for Hunter Biden.
HUNTER IS REQUIRED TO:

1) NOT possess a firearm
2) NOT use or possess any controlled substances (including marijuana) unless prescribed
3) Submit to full federal supervision
4) NO use of alcohol AT ALL
5) Seek active employment
6) Submit to testing for prohibited substances
7) Participate in substance abuse therapy

PENALTIES FOR VIOLATING COULD INCLUDE

1) Immediate issuance of an arrest warrant
2) Revocation of release
3) Forfeiture of bond
4) Prosecution for contempt of court



Whitehouse cocaine.Hunter Biden was there, then cocaine was found. If it was his, this judge would have thrown him inside. No wonder the secret service could not determine who brought the cocaine into the most secure building in earth.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:52pm On Jul 26, 2023
Joe Biden is a failure. His dog has bitten secret service agents 10 times in a short span.
He had another dog, Major that bit secret service several times until it was sent to live with his relatives
Guy can't control his dogs yet is the president of the free world.

You liberals there in America, make sure your dog does not bite a leftie .You will be sued to high heavens😀😀😀

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
wirinet:
I glanced the link and it's the same old story from 2019 (that led to Trump's first impeachment). Burisma this, Hunter Biden that, chinese payments, Romania. All its says are "Biden's family, Hunter Biden, Biden's Business associates,etc. What are the exact criminal allegations (according to US laws) and who are the exact suspects. Biden's family is not a person. Is there any allegations against Joe Biden? Or are you guys still searching for a crime?

Hunter Biden had been investigated since 2019 under Trump's DOJ, and most of the prosecutors involved are carryover from Trump's era including the judge. Hunter has pleaded guilty to tax crimes, for which we await sentencing. So, what are you guys and the Republican led housing wasting US legislative time for. If the prosectors are not satisfied with the judicial process, they have the rights of appeal. If the legislative are not satisfied with the prosecutors handling of the case, they have the rights to call them in for questioning. But to be making noise day and night about Hunter Biden is just insane.
I give up. Have you read that the whistleblowers , two IRS agents were impeded in the investigation by DoJ? They wanted to raid Hunters storage, the FBI leaked to Hunter to clear, they wanted to question him, they were told to wait for Hunter to call them, They wanted to charge him with multiple felonies as Special Counsel, DoJ denied them. The FBI had a FD-1023 from a Confidential Source detailing $5 m bribes to each
Joe and Hunter- They never gave this doc to the IRS whistleblowers Basically the investigations were muddled up by bureaucrats, ensuring Hunter goes Scot free.He is not yet out of the woods with the gun charge, the judge can refuse that plea deal esp if that cocaine in WH was traced to him.Plus
Yesterday Hunter's lawyer lied to a court clerk to remove a filing by the House Committee. to appear as amicus curiae.
Hunter pleaded to two misdemeanors, instead of being charged with felonies.


All these payments Hunter received, he was wiring money to 9 other Bidens including toddlers, money laundering and tax evasion. Paying for prostitutes and calling it a tax deductible business expense.
Let the impeachment of Joe Biden begin, what will come out will be devastating.
What were those payments for? There is the 5$ million bribe documented to Joe Biden.
Hunter was acting as a foreign agent without registering as one, which got Manafort a jail term.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:37am On Jul 26, 2023
wirinet:
The lies and conspiracies are to energize the MAGA Movement and their white extremist supporters, while at the same time discouraging weak democrats and independents from voting for Biden, just enough to win the electoral votes (not necessarily the popular votes). This was that strategy that won against Hillary Clinton in 2016. Crime is a virtue among MAGA and republicans in general, the more Trump's crime is exposed and indicted the more they idolise him. See how they idolise George Santos and Marjorie Taylor Green.
But in the democratic party, crimes and indictments will make you lose support. Hillary lost because millions of democrats did not turn up to vote and not because Trump was able to convince Democrats and independents to vote for him. This is the reason the Republican party has gone overboard with Burisma and Hunter Biden. The Republican lead house will not carry out any legislative duty until the next election outside Hunter Biden. Burisma, Ukraine, Hunter Biden's person life will be the principal legislative agenda of the Republicans. They will now attempt to use whatever crimes they can conjure to paint Joe Biden.
In other words Joe Biden is as clean as a whistle.
Let me tell you. Joe Biden DoJ is about protecting the treasonous criminal family.

https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/

You are saying that what's in that link is not true? The actual payments to Biden.
Devon Archer , Hunter Biden business partner is supposed to confirm that Hunter called Joe 24 times via speakerphone while they were meeting foreign business men.
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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Slavery . Republicans and Democrats.

I have dared the liberals here to name a single founder member of the republican party who owned slaves at the time of it's formation.
The answer to that is Zero.
Wikipedia on the formation of the GOP
The GOP was founded in 1854 by anti-slavery activists who opposed the Kansas–Nebraska Act, which allowed for the potential expansion of chattel slavery into the western territories

Wikipedia on the main causes of the civil war The central cause of the war was the dispute over whether slavery would be permitted to expand into the western territories, leading to more slave states, or be prevented from doing so, which many believed would place slavery on a course of ultimate extinction

For someone to tell us the Southern conservatives wanted to keep their slaves is misinformation, total bull and lies.

From Wikipedia again Southern laws were enacted by white Southern Democrat-dominated state legislatures to disenfranchise and remove political and economic gains made by African Americans during the Reconstruction era
Don't forget that Lyndon Johnson quote about having them niggers voting democrats the next two hundred years.

Long and short Democrat Party is the party of slavery. Only did an about turn to lock in the black vote, who had been lured by Roosevelt's The New Deal. Blacks turned to Roosevelt, in part, because his spending programs gave them a measure of relief

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Amazon Topaz.
Today World Aquatics banned male to female trans from competing with female swimmers at all levels eg Olympics. They created an open category for the transgenders.

Many don't see why this is a problem. The female to male trannies will complain that the male to female trannies are still male.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:17am On Jul 26, 2023
MentalCase98:
When debating these liberal fools on Nairaland, I always try to reference my sources from media houses I know they align with.

It's a little more time consuming but you can find almost all the information you need to silence them from left-wing media if you have the patience to read beyond the headlines because they tend to bury the information they don't like deep in the articles.

You make it too easy for them if you only quote Fox News or other right-wing media. All they have to do is shout "Fake news...conspiracy theory" and in their minds they have won the debate.
You are correct It's a pity. So thoroughly brainwashed and at the same time too timid to face reality.
They prefer to bury their heads in the sand
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:10am On Jul 26, 2023
MentalCase98:
You already know the answer he will give bro. As per their usual talking point: "All those good Republicans of old are now Democrats"


"The parties switched sides"


Or some crap like that.
Ive thrown down the gauntlet. I'm sure the liberals are all over google searching for. founder Republicans that owned slaves.

It might be a shock to them, having to discover that they believe in fairy tales told by the left.
Let's watch Obrigardo.. he sounds like he can commit suicide once the truth sinks in.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:51pm On Jul 25, 2023
Obrigardo:
You really don't have an ORIGINAL thought at all. Just watch people. Let criminal trump or Nazi deathsantis, or one braindead fox presenter start another meaningless talk, this fool will only lap it up. He has no standing to ever say - these people are wrong here. He's a fool that will easily defend every vermin that comes from the Reich wing.

NO ORIGINAL THOUGHT. What a waste.
I will never post here if you can give me the name of one republican who owned slaves at the party's formation.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:44pm On Jul 25, 2023
MentalCase98:
Don’t ever cite that fake lawyer clown to me bro 😂😂

Certain people here are not even worth referencing.
You quoted the leftist rag wapo, I guess it's now not credible.
Budaatum please note.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:34pm On Jul 25, 2023
MentalCase98:
Going into election night in 2016 all the “smart people” at the major media organizations gave Trump less than 5% chance of winning. We all know how that ended. You libs need to stop being so arrogant and confident thinking you know everything about politics and what makes people vote the way they do. You really don’t.
Please get a credible source of information and be logical 😀😀😀. So says the feminist Amazon.

1stGenAmerican:
I can’t say that I’ve even seen these guys use a credible source of information. Discourse with them is pretty useless, they are programmed to ignore logic and science while trusting fallacies and fairytales.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:27pm On Jul 25, 2023
IjeBos:
The GOP in it's current form is dead. It has to be. Trump pulled back the curtain and revealed the BS that it was. Overturning Roe V. Wade sealed the deal.
The GOP is not dead. Both parties share the same elitist club interests .
Trump came and rocked the boat especially not starting any wars and drawing down on Afghanistan.
Trump's support is solid.
Regarding Roe vs Wade, SCOTUS ruled it was a matter of the states to decide on abortion.I don't see anything wrong with that.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:21pm On Jul 25, 2023
TookDownYourMum:
I see.

Well, I'm pretty much done here~

Only reason I came here after I saw what the dumbass people in Florida said but I will be back in 2024, Nov to see the reactions.
Don't let the door hit you on your way out
Bye Felicia
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:19pm On Jul 25, 2023
bemeruca:
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There were whites who were slaves too. Africa was a trade center for slaves, everyone was going there to buy slaves. It was not like they went there and captured the slaves. I am not entirely sure about that... But I know there were trade between the white man and the black man.
The Moors were notorious slave raiders. Spain or Andalusia was plundered , women captured and sold to slavery . They went all over the coast of England raiding .
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:15pm On Jul 25, 2023
AmazonTopaz:
Good day and sorry for the late reply.

As a Liberal, I am not an idiot so I understand with common sense and want to see the bigger picture. I have nothing against what adults want to do with their bodies as long as they are adults that is their business as long as no one is being hurt so identify as whatever on the surface I don't care.

However, as a Woman who identifies as a feminist, I do care and I agree with J.K Rowling, Chimamanda Adichie and radical feminists on this issue that transwomen are not and can never be women.
Biological men have no business in women's spaces, children should not be allowed to change their sex because they do not understand the consequences or gravity of their actions.

Also, criticising transwomen for wanting to come into women's spaces is not transphobia.
Let transwomen have their transwomen spaces and leave women alone.
I am a woman and not a cis woman, I can't be a subset of my gender, a woman is a "human adult female"/ not a surgically enhanced one.

As Germaine Greer stated womanhood is not tied to feminity so saying that because you have boobs and wear make-up, have long hair and heels that make you a woman then that man is mad.
Biology exists for a reason XY can never be XX and vice versa. All those nonsense about men seeing periods is rubbish because transmen who they say are men are biologically still women same as non-binary women.
We must never discard biology and women especially the ones who claim to be feminists should stop being stupid and tell these confused shemales that they can form their clique and that feminism is not about the inclusion of biologically confused men into women's spaces.
I do not agree with Matt Walsh and those people on the right and how they frame the trans issue, those are just full of hate and spread propaganda. That is the difference between radical feminists and other liberals who criticise transwomen we do it from a place of fact and the real-life consequences disproving reality/biology while embracing delusion can have on the general safety and well-being of women. Transwomen hate women that is why they are obsessed with wanting to be in women's spaces to commit more attacks on us without being curtailed and this is what J.K Rowling is warning us about and I completely agree.
The right on the other hand will not mind spreading hate on them they lie that trans people are after kids and that is not true. This is why I will not support their version it's transphobia filled with lies and propaganda.

Transgenders need help which parts of gender affirming care provide not all of them go on with the surgery later and some later regret doing it too which is why if anybody wants to change their sex it should be adults and not kids.

You are not a "hateful conservative" for feeling that way at all. I share the same view but unlike conservatives, I will not call for their hanging and spread lies.

Women's rights should not be sacrificed for transwomen and that is my own. They should get their own spaces and get off women's spaces. You hardly see transmen complaining about this issue. Men don't even regard these people but it has to be women who should be inclusive of biological males into their spaces. Hell no. angry
You disagree with Obama'?.Wow. You repeated what I've been preaching to your liberal zombie friends here
I have not implied that trans are Paedos, It starts that way. If you can change your sex from man to woman and vice versa by thinking aloud What prevents a fully grown adult identifying as a teenager and engaging in sex with teens too?
You should have qualified tour response with.
Gender is not assigned at birth by the doctor
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:03pm On Jul 25, 2023
MentalCase98:
It will be a bigger shock to you than 2016. Did you ever watch that hilarious “Trump can never win” montage? I can find it on YouTube for you.
In Israel judges in the highest court recommend new judges outside of the Knesset and executive. They can overturn any law or executive order using 'reasonableness'.

Netanyahu bill is now law. Judges cannot overturn any law on the basis of reasonableness.

Joe Biden and the left are howling democracy is under threat in Israel.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:58pm On Jul 25, 2023
IjeBos:
Wow. No one prevented blacks from running business since 1865? I guess you've been reading Florida's African American History curriculum.
Start by reading up on the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre as just one example.
And FYI 1921 came after 1865.
Jesus, I can't imagine walking though life constantly being a fool.
A good quote for you. "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt"
So what percentage of black owned businesses were unjustifiably stopped from operating? 100%. (Maybe drugs).
Give an estimate.
Oh I hope you are aware that there were blacks who were slave owners in America Many of them freed slaves.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:45pm On Jul 25, 2023
1stGenAmerican:
I can’t say that I’ve even seen these guys use a credible source of information.
An example of a credible one Just one only.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
TookDownYourMum:
Just to let you guys know the source he keeps citing, OutKick, is a notoriously right wing propaganda and transphobic site founded by a Covid denier, Clay Travis. Its not a credible source in the slightest.
Lebron James 18yr son was rushed from field practice to ICU because of a cardiac arrest. Thanks God he is out of danger..A healthy 18 year old waiting for the draft suddenly gets a cardiac arrest.
The oppressed black kid in America, dad is one of the richest sportsmen in history.

Elon Musk causes leftie heads to explode
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12336279/Elon-Musk-sparks-fury-conspiracy-theory-vaccine-caused-Bronny-James-cardiac-arrest-training-USC.html

Did you even bother seeing his explanation of how wapo has changed since they went after Clinton who only got a BJ , while wapo gives current criminal occupying oval office a blackout on his bribery schemes. Did you?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:53pm On Jul 25, 2023
TookDownYourMum:
This is about slavery in the Americas not the Trans-Sahara slave trade and the Barbary slave trade which both pagan Africans and Christian Europeans were enslaved even then they could gain their freedom if they converted to islam. Arabized Nubians in North Sudan and Southern Egypt helped the Ottoman-Egypt slave raid further into the interior of Africa so they could add slave soldiers into their ranks. As for castration, Islamic empires like the Ottomans not castrate all of their slaves, there are Afro-Turkic people today which most are descended from slaves and 40% of Mauritania is heratin (descendants of slaves), 30% are Arab/Berbers and another 30% of black Africans who were never enslaved, many Bantu Somalis etc, elites and people of Swahili city states are Afro-arabs and Arabized populous in Mombasa, Kilwa, Zanzibar, Lamu etc.

As for Argentina, thats a myth people like to keep peddling. They were not killed off, there are still 150,000+ Afro-Argentines in the country today descended from slaves. Also, modern-slavery ingeneral is a big problem but Africa barely contributes to most of it, Asia is actually the hotbed for modern-day slavery like India having more than 18 million people enslaved. Then you have all the Arab states like Qatar, Dubai etc that enslave Indians, Filipinos, and Nepalis etc. There is also child sex slavery which is the biggest in Asia, specifically southeast Asia which many white expats and white tourists from Europe and America keep alive, most of Interpol most wanted pedophiles are white. Dont get me started on the sex slavery in Eastern Europe either being a problem.

Also, I never said that US was the worst in chattel slavery, that was infact Haiti controlled by France which they had a revolt about, won, and killed all of their French slave masters. Out of that 500,000, 180,000 freed blackmen and ex-slaves fought and died in the Union fighting for freedom. It wasn't just a white Union effort. Once again, stop using party labels, the base ideology is what's relevant. Just say Conservatives.

Edit:



There was no racial concept in Africa, did they share the same skin colour? Yes, but they did not view the people they were trading as "their" people because they weren't of the same ethnic group. it was tribes enslaving other enemy tribes in their wars, debators and criminals, and sometimes raiding villages of enemy tribes. Would you say England enslaved their fellow white people after they thrashed France in a war? No, thats ridiculous. As ones who owned the slave forts and shipped Africans to the Americas were Europeans. Africans may have been the one to capture the slaves in the interior and sell them off to Europeans for stuff like firearms, but Europeans are the ones who bought them, transported them to another continent, and treated them less than animals for 400 years.

Shit, you try to justify all of that inhumane shit just because they have better opportunities in the US than those in Africa currently? Even then thats bullshit because stuff like redlining, given harsher sentences for the same crimes than their white counterparts, 9 times more likely to be stopped by police than their white counterpart, predominantly black neighbourhoods and schools are underfunded, understaffed, and underresourced, more black people are killed at a higher per capita than whites, less than 5% of black businesses receive financial assistance, and constant attempts to limiting Sunday ”Souls to the polls” etc.
Total rubbish still whining that cops look at you badly. White people don't consider themselves equal to you. When out of their earshot, they call you all sorts of derogatory names.
Eg Clinton said that dude (Obama) would be getting him coffee.

Just because some ofl you are in that country and very oppressed, you look at people in Nigeria as backwards with choice insults reserved for us.

How you expect someone who thinks you are beneath him to treat you as his equal? Respect is earned Not demanded .
You defend the few examples of how slaves were treated But want to make blacks more treated harshly than others. Blacks have not been enslaved since 1865. Equal treatment is what you want . Noone prevented blacks from running businesses or working since then.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:41pm On Jul 25, 2023
budaatum:
I do wonder how magas hope to get votes with lies and conspiracies sane people wouldn't believe.

https://wapo.st/3Y8I8pj
As usual you link to the far left
narrative shapers.
I had quoted an article earlier in the morning about wapo.


https://www.outkick.com/the-washington-post-tried-to-bring-down-bill-clinton-now-it-ignores-joe-bidens-corruption-how-did-we-get-here-clay-travis/
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:57am On Jul 25, 2023
Good read on how media became partisan, away from the days when being impartial earned them big. Today media cares for it's segment.. A sort of safe space where it's opinions benefit it's customers and vilify the opposing views.

https://www.outkick.com/the-washington-post-tried-to-bring-down-bill-clinton-now-it-ignores-joe-bidens-corruption-how-did-we-get-here-clay-travis/
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
sanpipita:
And this madness of gaslighting black people over slavery continue, not like I didn't predict it.

How can any sensible person start saying slavery was beneficial to blacks, how long till we start hearing about bringing slavery back, this is madness.
Slavery was and is still inhumane. Blacks were captured by fellow blacks , sold to Arab slave traders who in turn shipped them to the Americas and others landed in the middle east.
Arabs for years had raided Europe and captured slaves ,sexually exploited the women, castrated the men and used them as soldiers after forced conversions. Blue eyed Arabs with curly hair most likely are of Caucasian origin.
King Leopold treated Congo as his personal farm, forced the natives to grow rubber plus dig up minerals. Those who did not lost their hands if they were not killed.
Don't forget the colonialists who forcefully imposed taxes on natives in order to force them to work their farms and in mines.
In Sierra Leone those who did not dig up bloody diamonds hand their hands chopped off.. by Foday Sankoh and Charles Taylor. This was between 1991 and 2002.
All this is slavery.

The only slavery we hear a lot is blacks in America, whom I believe have had better opportunities than in all other countries.
Can the left give us a break
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
TookDownYourMum:
Lmfao, this argument.

If I was to be a slave, I would rather be a slave in Africa than one in the Americas because then I would at least know I would gain my freedom after a number of years or my children would be freed and not inherited like property and their children after that. Fact, most slaves in Africa could climb the social ranks to high positions of power and weren't treated like less than cattle simply because of their race (no concept of until later 19th century during colonialism) and still enjoyed some rights as free men did is a much better deal if you ask me than ones in the Americas. Most slaves were PoW but were later intergrated into the winners society.

Its not the fact the United States or other countries in the Americas "just" practiced slavery but it was the first unique system of slavery that was entirely based on race and the most horrific one. I suggest you read up on the Bacon's Rebellion in the late 18th century if you don't know it already as it will give you the idea of how it all began and where the first codified laws of "whiteness" and "blackness" originated to justify the enslavement of Africans.

As for the "wElL, rEpUbLiCaNs eNdEd sLaVeRy" just stop...Its a well known right-wing talking point from the American Right. Party labels are irrelevant, what matters was the ideology. Southern conservatives were the ones that fought for slavery to conserve the status quo, it was the northern liberals/progressives who were the abolitionists fought to end it like John Brown.

Even after slavery ended, black Americans still weren't free because a few years right after that Jim Crow laws came into effect that effectively made them 2nd class citizens and also bought them back to slavery-lite known as share cropping. There was also a loophole they used in the 13th amendment that a person could be re-enslaved if they committed a crime. So, they passed all kinds of petty bills that a black person could be arrested for minor offenses and convicted in rigged courts with all white juries and a white judge guaranteeing a conviction.

Your basically saying that black Americans should be grateful for their ancestors being enslaved because they can join some shitty sports team? Lmfao. "Despite all the beatings, rapes, tortures, gruesome deaths, the middle passage, ripping apart my family, and erasing my cultural identity, I am totally thankful to be born in the states because I can join the NBA!"
The Southern conservatives you implied were democrats at the time of the civil war.
The civil war was about democrats wanting slavery to go on, Jim Crow was. democrat. I'm not going there for now, All I know is that not a single republican owned slaves at its formation Twist history but that's the fact

Slavery in other parts. PoWs in some African cultures were generally treated well, women captured were turned into wives.
You skipped the men being castrated such that there are no descendants. The Turks used captured christian children, the janniseries in their army, most famous victory being capturing Constantinople, now Istanbul.

Tell me where the blacks in Argentina went to.
Mauritania. Abolished slavery in 1981 .They still have some form of slavery today, masters can lend their slaves to others for exploitation be it labour or sex.

So much for black slaves in murica, who made 500k whites die in a war about them.
I'm supposed to believe white American were the most brutal owners, who enforced the abolition of slave trade n They had a unique system legally to keep the slaves ( democrats)
In other parts of the world, slaves were castrated, men sodomized and forced to fight while the women were kept in harems.

Now that California will pay reparations, how about African families being compensated for loss of their bread winners to slave owners in America?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:21pm On Jul 24, 2023
bemeruca:
Ijebos is seriously ignorant
Very ignorant. Those who captured slaves are worse than those who bought them.

Ijeboss. Which was the last country to abolish slavery?
Is there any country where slavery is still practices today?

Hint. You can use ChatGPT
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:51pm On Jul 24, 2023
IjeBos:
How much self hate does it take for a Nigerian to argue that Nigerian/African slaves transported to the US were better off in the US rahter than Nigeria/Africa because of skills they may have learned there like blacksmithing.

Really, how much do you hate yourself and the country you live in?
Many of the enslaved from Africa ended up in Middle East and South America too.
How come there is not a single black who plays for Argentina yet most South American teams have lots of black people?

As for Saudi Arabia there are no black descendants of slavery. The word eunuch should ring a bell.

Yes America treated their slaves horribly. Listen to yourself. But remember the republican party was the one that fought against slavery that the democrats wanted to keep.
I repeat the democrat party fought to keep their slaves.

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