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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:43am On Sep 28, 2022
Who reallly stands to gain from sabotaging the pipelines?


Ibime:
That was already achieved with sanctions and withdrawal of certification



If Nordstream 2 is not within USAs gift to stop, why was Ted Cruz pushing to have it written into law to stop it in the USA?

Of course you know that USA can sanction any company working with Nordstream 2 such as Siemens, Rolls Royce etc and take it off line forever. They can only lay pipes, they cannot pump gas without turbines, technology etc from. companies that fall under USA say so, that's why Merkel had to go begging Biden to lift the sanctions. Same way both John F Kennedy and Ronald Reagan sanctioned Nordstream 1.

USA can absolutely stop Nordstream 2 from a technical aspect by ensuring no company that works on it will ever eat again, while Germany can stop it's certification. Both have power to stop it using legal means.




It is not a money cow for Russia in the short term as flows have been stopped for a month now. It can always be fixed in the medium term when Russia needs it to be. But the implied threat to Norwegian pipelines in the short term is pressing to Europe and pressing on Europes ability to warm itself this winter.

USA can never attack its allies infrastructure in International waters. It's an act of war and the surest way to break up the alliance against Russia. You must be new to Russian psychological game. This is just one of their escalation levers to put pressure on Europe and divide it. 10% of the dumb ones will believe it's USA, while 50% of the wise ones will know all Norwegian pipelines are under threat and want to deescalate so Europe is not at risk this winter. Both achieve Russia's aims.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:37am On Sep 28, 2022
Ibime:
Nordstream 1 has not been flowing for a month cos Russia stopped it

Biden and Nuland and Ted Cruz promise was only to stop Nordstream 2 and it was achieved.
Why is gas leaking to the surface if its not been in use?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:35am On Sep 28, 2022
You said study history in order to beat racism.Are those things that people should not study . How the democrats were the party of slavely
And how 500k people died so that democrats could keep their slaves
That education is very relevant in order to fight racism

Obrigardo:
You are a disingenuous fool
You sidestepped hundred years of history, years of man changing radical ideas and moving from one point of the spectrum to the other.

How can you call the Democrats of the reconstruction era to be the Democratic party of today? And you are telling me the same Republicans who fought to end slavery then are the same Republicans now? Get the fück off.

I mean right about now, we have trumpism and less of what the tea party has been known off since Obama took office. Are you telling me this same trumpist ideals were the Republicans of the slavery era?

There are many factors that have changed the landscape of American politics but you'd be a fool to ignore that and say the same party now was the party of over a hundred years ago.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:32am On Sep 28, 2022
Obrigardo:
The most effective way and i feel the most sincere is to learn about it's history and reckon how it affects us today, then find a way to deal with it.
For America the starting point would be that the Democrats fought a civil war because they wanted to keep their slaves. They crafted Jim Crow laws.
Something like this history that is buried. Inconvinient truths

With a little research, the actual voting record for both Houses of Congress shows that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed the Senate on a 73-to-27 vote. The Democratic supermajority in the Senate split their vote 46 (69%) for and 21 (31%) against. The Republicans, on the other hand, split their vote 27 for (82%) and 6 against (18%). Thus, the no vote consisted of 78% Democrats. Further, the infamous 74-day filibuster was led by the Southern Democrats, who overwhelmingly voted against the act.

If Martin Luther King was alive today he would be Republican. Democrats cant stand anybody who draws strength from the Lord. Actuallly they would label him a fascist like the genial Italian PM.“I don’t think the Republican Party is a party full of the almighty God, nor is the Democratic Party. They both have weaknesses. And I’m not inextricably bound to either party.
Foreign AffairsRe: Donbass Referendum Results Revealed by basilico: 5:24am On Sep 28, 2022
dapoRead:
The majority of citizens of both the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics (DPR and LPR) support the idea of uniting with Russia, according to local election commissions.

In the DPR, more than 99% of voters supported the idea of joining Russia, according to early official figures. The referendum in the LPR yielded a similar result, with more than 98% of voters supporting the potential reunification. In both republics, all the ballots have already been counted, according to local authorities.

The polls were conducted in the republics, as well as in the Moscow-controlled parts of Ukraine’s Zaporozhye and Kherson Regions, between September 23 and 27.

Both republics – which broke away from Kiev in the aftermath of the 2014 Maidan coup and the conflict in Ukraine’s east that followed – have shown a turnout of over 80% for the referendums, official figures show.

Ukraine and its Western supporters have already rejected the referendums on joining Russia as a “sham” ballot, vowing to not recognize the results regardless of their outcome. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky warned that Russia’s completion of the referendums would “make it impossible, in any case, to continue any diplomatic negotiations” with Moscow.

Russia sent troops into Ukraine on February 24, citing Kiev’s failure to implement the Minsk agreements, designed to give the regions of Donetsk and Lugansk special status within the Ukrainian state. The protocols, brokered by Germany and France, were first signed in 2014. Former Ukrainian president Pyotr Poroshenko has since admitted that Kiev’s main goal was to use the ceasefire to buy time and “create powerful armed forces.”

In February 2022, the Kremlin recognized the Donbass republics as independent states and demanded that Ukraine officially declare itself a neutral country that will never join any Western military bloc. Kiev insists the Russian offensive was completely unprovoked.
USSR broke up when their former states held referendums to secede from russia. I think Putin has a point here,. The separatist region has been under attack by Kyiv for a long time for wanting to break away after the Maidan George soros coup
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:08am On Sep 28, 2022
saxywale2:
1. NBC News: Kyle Young, a 38-year old Trump fan who brought his teenage son along as he assaulted then-D.C. police officer Mike Fanone and another officer at the Capitol on Jan. 6, was just sentenced to more than seven years — 86 months — in prison.


2. Jeffery Moore, appointed by Desantis as County Commissioner in July to the only predominantly black county in FL, has resigned after photos surfaced showing him in a Klan outfit.
The sentence is harsh, that woman hates Trump supporters.,Amy. She locked Manafort in solitary over a case that had to do with FARA registration where his partner was John Podesta . John Podesta was never indicted. she is an Obama appointee,

Gov. Ralph Northam was in this photo wearing a black face. Media downplayed it


Notice the talking point. All these hacks are talking about how MAGA is at war . All them making sure they use the word war.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
I suppose thats what is called hedging your bets. Everybody world wide is suffering increased costs of living though . Food prices and energy prices are up globally.
UK might need to go further right = >>they get shale oil from America , yet they have significant quantities of shale oil and gas. The environmentalists one day should be kicked to the curb. They dont want shale oil , hell they dont want fossil fuels imcluding coal, they dont want nuclear, they have no idea where reliable power comes from (socket on the wall).



Ibime:
Germany cancelled certification of Nordstream 2 at the start of the war so that was the context of that statement which you are trying to twist to fit the bombing
True dat, why is it leaking gas? At high pressure too.




UK prices capped at £2.5k per annum for a typical household usage by new Prime Minister. My usage is more than the typical household but I had already fixed mine at the start of the war at a rate lower than the Govt rate. Ontop that, Govt is giving everyone £400 off their bills from October which means I will pay less than £2k for the next 12 months, about the same as I paid last year. UK does not use Russian gas even before the war, we are only subject to the price of American LNG
One month of your salary on Gas. one month summer holiday, housing takes half your salary assuming you own the shack, food and general maintenance takes the other third, rest of your savings you dump them in Qatar world cup. Leaving you with nothing. And you say that you are living.
Just go and farm in your grandfathers land . Grow something there drink local brews and at the end of the year you will have more money than the credit card bills that you spend another six months paying,
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:08pm On Sep 27, 2022
benalvino3:
I think the mad man wants to annex this region so he can use the nuclear threat to fend off any dispute.
it will not work.

Russia says at the UNSC that Donbas, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia are "now returning to their homeland."
Im not speculating. The depth is about 3.5 km whereas a properly kitted diver can do 1000 feet , just above 300m. The pipeline is not like a fiber optic where a robot is sent down and pulls it up.
Who stands to benefit should be the question,
Did Putin blow it up killing his golden goose to punish EU for sanction
Was it the WEF or rather NATO.. for what purpose to deptrive EU of much needed heating coming winter in 2 months.

The pipeline as I understand is reinforced by concrete moulding and inches thick hardened steel It would take an explosive device to blow a hole.

Lets wait. These guys will figure out the exact cause, Two pipelines blown up in one day is not a coincidence I doubt Ukraine has the expertise to execute this.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:35pm On Sep 27, 2022
Ibime:
Promise fulfilled with the sanctioning of Nordstream 2 which was brought to an end at the start of the invasion

For any other MEND pipeline bombing tactics, refer to the rogue state of Russia
Promises made promises kept. No gas flowing into Europe through Nordstream. Now blown up with no hope of quick repair. Remember Trump sanctioned the contractors of Nordstream 2 and actual construction stopped only for Joe Biden to rescind the sanctions and it was completed though I do not think it has been fully operational.

Europe, brace long cold winter. Get those firewood chippers.
Ibime. Go see your Grandparents . With 1000 GBP you get 500-800k ₦ , have a blast then go back and pick a better wage slave job after the holders dies of starvation and the cold.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:27pm On Sep 27, 2022
Obrigardo:
That is what your trouble is, conspiracy theories. It's now a part of your spirit and i'm afraid your entire life till you die
Of course you say its a conspiracy theory. why you say this. Because you listen to hacks..
Bring you upto speed. Many of those leftist activists masquerading as TV anchors on MSM are just a bunch of highly paid hacks paid insane amounts of $$$ to put forth a leftist narrative. Anderson Cooper is paid $12m, Wolf Blitzer $5m, George Stephanopoulos $15m, Joe Scarborough $8m
These are paid obscene amounts to repeat the talking points circulated to their echo chamber of 'Big lie, baseless, debunked, No evidence, conspiracy theories' etc. They all use the same talking points for each new crisis or propaganda dissemination.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS4O8rGRLf8
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Obrigardo:
To be honest, many people like basilico don't like the idea of America as an enforcer of justice, to see reason and truth.
The fact that a criminal has been convicted but he still goes online and insults the presiding Judge, the fact he has that freedom says alot about the American ideal. He will mostly be shot after some few days in China, sent to labor camp in North Korea or fed to the lions, pushed down a window in Russia or sent to siberian cold to die.
This American freedom is what we cherish and the same freedom for the DOJ to lock up the mudafucker is what we also like but why not people like basilico and co?

Coz many people like basilico don't like the idea of America as an enforcer of justice.
Obrigardo you are a liar just like all leftists. I have always said that America has been a force of good all those years and I would prefer it as the sole superpower.If China ever dethrones America as they surely will with the likes of you celebrating marxism , lawlessness, lies and racism The world wil surely go dark. Here is a recent comment of mine at 3:39pm On Sep 09 2022 which negates your mind reading abilities and exposes your blatant lies. Shame on you,

basilico:
Buda gets me wrong most of the time. I do not hate america. I hate the left who are working day and night to transform it to their ( marxist?) utopia.
If China became the sole superpower the whole world would go up in flames. The Chinese are after dominance which they had thousands of years ago.
I have said here that I prefer America as the sole superpower. America has been a force of good on many occasions , helping developing nations in matters health, nutrition, peace . They have also started wars which were not necesssary.
My grouse with America today is the leftists in charge who are transforming America into a police state, overthrowing social norms, anti Xtian . Who think they are smarter than the rest of the world combined.
In the Ukraine case why do they need it to join NATO?
In the video I posted, joining NATO is one of the reasons Putin the bully invaded. The hidden reason is that he does not want Ukraine to replace Russia as the dominant energy supplier to Europe. Again the Ukrainians have been killing pro Russia separatists in the Eastern Ukraine so that was another excuse for him to invade and protect the mostly Russian speaking Eastern Ukrainians.
So the invasion is two fold. Get their oil and prevent them from undercutting Russia. Ukraine has been charging Russia billions for the pipeline through their territory forcing Russia to build several pipelines bypassing Ukraine.
In the same vein Italy moved right after the incoming PM stood firm saying that she is for God, family and country. For that they called a fascist. Ben posted a clip of here appealing to the masses about how the elites are after breaking down the society.
Tucker Carlson last night had more clips. I am not sure whether you can stand to hear what she has to say. she is against the erosion of family identity the building block of a successful society. Listen to this and understand how the left wants to break down the society so that they can achieve ultimate power.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VzT4n27AC8&t=634s
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:59pm On Sep 27, 2022
Nordstream I and II were hit by explosions.
Nobody is accusing Joe Biden of being behind it but here he is

Pres. Biden: "If Russia invades...then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it."

Reporter: "But how will you do that, exactly, since...the project is in Germany's control?"

Biden: "I promise you, we will be able to do that."
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:25pm On Sep 27, 2022
This is a Biden nominee. She refusees to completely say whether abortion is OK is till the ninth month. With such activist judges what can you expect.
Biden is nominating the most radical leftists in his admin.
Leftists have to consolidate power because an Italy moment is coming , Not if but when .. Like it did in 2016


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc_ki1XpEq8
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:13pm On Sep 27, 2022
Obrigardo:
It's an absolute truth, America is a racist country and that needs to be dealt with
And whats the best way to deal with racism? A few suggestions would suffice.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:40am On Sep 27, 2022
benalvino3:
The stock market's value is down $7.6 trillion since Biden took office.

Dems working hard
Yet listening to Biden admin, everything will be OK. Dow below Nov 2020 levels whereas Biden has been touting the 30k milestone

What a failure.

In France the Eiffel Tower lights are being turned off at night one hour earlier. Not sure if it's lack of power, daytime demand usually peaks when factories are in full production. Evening demand when everyone is home n cooking. I think globalists want to show French that they can do anything
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:22pm On Sep 26, 2022
benalvino3:
The latest mussolini in town
https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1574251105940377607?t=s-XpXkvgx6qmPPpxs8lv1A&s=19[/quote]God, country and family is Far Right that an unelected bureaucrat of the EU has the temerity to tell voters not to make a wrong choice because the EU has tools. They failed in Hungary. Poland, Sweden and now Italy, not forgetting how they dragging Brexit.
These elites really are drunk with power.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:09pm On Sep 26, 2022
saxywale2:
No one is shouting election was stolen in Italy. They seem to be more civilized than the Americans.
The reason is that Europe banned mailin ballots. There are no Dominion machines used to count the votes. Voting in Italy is now a one day affair. Paper ballots strictly and voter rolls are updated. All ballots counted by hand.

Ruby Freeman , her daughter plus two others in video below. They claimed there was a water leak at midnight and declared that the counting would resume the following morning. As soon as every body else left the four amigos remained behind, pulled a suitcase from under the table and continued counting the ballots. Ruby is seen running the same batch several times ie multiple counting. Before the 'break' Trump was leading. By morning Joe got a sudden spike when the counting was supposed to have stopped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh5j7s1H7ek
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Italy. Exit polls indicate the right wing alliance has won and Italy has the first female prime minister.

Her campaign slogan was so extremist such that some call her a fascist. The extreme slogan is " God, family and country".

Part of her 2020 Speech ,Ibime Kindly tell what fascism is expressed in that speech.

Our worldview is the exact opposite of what they would like to force on us…

Our main enemy today is the globalist drift of those who view identity and all its forms to be an evil to overcome. And constantly ask to shift real power away from the people to supernational entities headed by supposedly enlightened elites.

Let us be clear in our mind, because we did not fight against and defeat communism in order to replace it with a new international regime, but to permit independent nation states once again to defend the freedom, identity and sovereignty of their peoples…

…As a serious alternative to the beaurocratic super state ..and although that someone in Brussels or Frankfort, Davos or the City of London, lacks democratic legitimacy, everday it commissions the economic choices and political decisions of those who have invested in that legitmacy by their popular vote.

It means that whether the false democrats like it or not, national conservatives in every latitude are actually the only real Democrats. Because it is only by defending the nation states, that we defend the political sovereignty that belongs to the citizens of that state…



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mznVBMhp-k&t=599s


I now really believe that there are globalists who want to lord over either financially or militarily. She said so in her speech Or she is a conspiracy theorist?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:47pm On Sep 25, 2022
budaatum:
Money he hoarded and added the princely sum of $40 to in August. No wonder he's hoarding what he's got. He ain't stupid enough not to notice you magas have stopped funding his lies.
Such a simpleton. Your new lesson today is that his donors are running dry All from obrigardo.You believe it.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:12pm On Sep 25, 2022
saxywale2:
What can I do? Nothing. It's the world we live in.
Of course there is nothing you can do. Female teachers are supposed to dress decently You don't go wearing tank tops and yoga kits in class .
This thing should wear those hideous things out of school
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:08pm On Sep 25, 2022
budaatum:
$2m is not support enough?
Same screenshot continues.
GOP is accusing him of hoarding money for the midterms ,Trump will spend I think mostly on candidates he has endorsed.

You are still behaving like a teacher. Marking homework poorly but you are only looking for a slight contradiction THEN go away shouting how wrong others are.Dont you pity your sorry life?

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:01pm On Sep 25, 2022
saxywale2:
She is not even American lol
Can you imagine a male teacher, changing gender and wearing those hideous things teaching your children?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:54pm On Sep 25, 2022
budaatum:
If you had contributed I'm sure they'd have said $40 plus Basilico's 100 Naira.
Walls are closing in, Supporters moving to back Joe Biden, less crowds at his rallies
Really do you not get tired of these crusades against Trump
There are at 7 PACs. One raised &40. So what. What if they had closed office and gone to Martha's Vineyard for the summer holiday?
Those should be questions a critical thinker should investigate before running here with negative press.
Is there a reason why they only raised $40? Of course you are not a critical thinker You just a dumb know nothing hack

Is this the same Super PAC launched two days ago?

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:43pm On Sep 25, 2022
budaatum:
Reading is one problem you definitely seem to have or you'd know "he raised $40 in August" has nothing to do with a "collective total" that he already might have.
You left out my next line.
Stop your dishonesty.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:34pm On Sep 25, 2022
benalvino3:
the guy who says people who use the word Globalism are brainwashed is the same guy who is pushing the globalist agenda. the EU has gone too far. Italy is not a little nation depending on handouts.
Globalists are quite powerful today. They are able to force govts to do whatever they want. SA was being discouraged to add a 4800 MW coall plant because of climate agreements . They are going ahead , SA has 38000MW of coal power
To save mother earth , the globalists have the Cop feel good treaty to brandish to anyone who doesn't take their advice
They forced jabs on literally every village on earth, praising it Now upto 4 shots required.
The revenues from billions of vaccinated is insane.
Globalists want power, why would Joe Biden allow 8000 illegals a day from the roughly 400-800 Trump had effected.
Any party opposing mass immigration in Europe is far right which is a negative implication as understood .
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:52pm On Sep 25, 2022
benalvino3:
the 3rd time might be the deal.
germany too will cause concern. bad policies cannot be allowed to screw folks forever
I hate the smearing. It is all coordinated. For instance Far Right has been made to appear a terrorist organization, What about far left. The left has stolen the narrative that they are the people who are correct
The left takes a finge issue and wants to normalise it. They invent phobias by the day. The left lies like there is no tomorrow.
Glad parts of Europe are wakingup and voting out these elitist globalists who know whats best for us.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:37pm On Sep 25, 2022
benalvino3:
does it matter? blame the EU n the stupid policies you support for making all these neonazis from nowhere.

France is next.

EU don't handout crap, they restrict
France is gone. Le Penn though managed 44 percent which was a marked improvement. Once a few Parisians freeze to death ( the media will not report , will cover it up like Laptop from hell) the people will realise that leftist policies are simply about entrenching themselves in power for decades to come,
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:34pm On Sep 25, 2022
Ibime:
If it looks like a Musolini, barks like a Musolini, it's definitely a Musolini. Unfortunately Italy has always romanced it's Musolini wing unlike Germany who proscribed Nazism
Says an immigrant who could not cut it at home and now more European than the real Europeans.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:22pm On Sep 25, 2022
budaatum:
Bas! You no contribute? Your maga boss needs your money and not your lies on NL!
Obrigardo:
Who would want to do business with Criminal trump ever again?

Can you believe he raised $40 in August Tru his PAC, $40! GOP are pulling ads from campaigns because they don't have enough money and Criminal trump is not helping.
His rallies are shrinking more than ever, and with his legal woes, with Letitia dealing the nerve cutting blow (with DOJ investigating $250m fraud Tru the trump campaign inaugural funds), Criminal trump may well end up washing dishes in Rikers island.





Bas! You no contribute? Your maga boss needs your money and not your lies on NL!
Lies. Financial Times identifies a total of seven PACs connected to Trump, which reported a collective total of about $122 million in available cash at the close of August

That is just one super PAC that raised $40 . GOPe has not been of much help to him, endorsing the stolen elections and now they want to a piece of his bucks. Mitch is sponsoring RINOs remember.At the same time I think Mitch is happy if they dont win the senate because he still the kingmaker matters legislation.

Dont know much about GOP and Trump relationship . GOP has big donors they will come through for it.. The Koch brothers for example.
This time remember Elon Musk is voting for Republican having seen the futility of these leechers democrats.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:43pm On Sep 25, 2022
Obrigardo:
Stop lying jorr
You that have jizzed over your pants grin
You are a kid yea I think.
Im showing the lunacy if your like minded minions And thats what you come up with?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:57pm On Sep 25, 2022
Obrigardo:
Why does it give you erection?
YES it does NOT
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:55pm On Sep 25, 2022
My body my choice.
Male Teacher who identifies as a woman with prosthetic jutting out tits teaching young students.
School says its OK because of inclusivity.
No question she must be a democrat

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