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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 3:20pm On Aug 02, 2023
Obrigardo:
Wow Jack Smith is made of steel.

He didn't indict criminal trump for his speech at the ellipse.

So he's laser focused on the conspiracy leading up to the speech and then bringing all the facts together to prove intent.

Criminal trump really wanted to overturn the election and I believe this strategy by Smith will prove it rather than him involving in first amendment rights debates and arguments.

That's why we have half a dozen co-conspirators with more to come.

It's gonna be chilling when the Jan 6th Indictment trial starts.
NY AG wants the $250 million case against Trump to proceed. This should make you extremely pleased

New York AG: Our Trump Org Case Is “Ready For Trial”

New York Attorney General Letitia James’ office says it is ready to proceed with a trial stemming from its $250 million lawsuit claiming former President Donald Trump, two of his children and his company engaged in widespread fraud. “The case is ready for trial,” wrote Kevin Wallace, senior enforcement counsel for the office, in a filing Monday.

The September 2022 lawsuit accused members of the Trump family and Trump Organization executives of orchestrating an extensive fraudulent scheme related to valuations of property and Trump’s personal financial statements. The lawsuit is seeking $250 million and sanctions that would effectively cease the company’s operations in New York.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 10:43am On Aug 02, 2023
MentalCase98:
They will fail. Jack smith is a professional at losing cases against high profile politicians in court. Just check his history. They Biden DOJ is just using him to run election interference. They know these indictments are weak.

BTW just look at these dates. Coincidence? I think not.
Meant to bury JB crimes.
Very nice I'm illustration
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico:
wirinet:
What is the bad news that broke out about Biden's crimes this time? After much anticipation, what bad news did Devon Archer bring that is different from what we had heard that led to Trump's first impeachment?
OK, Hunter Biden called his father 20 times in the course of a 10 year period in his presence.
OK, Hunter Biden put the phone on speaker phone for his father to say hi to his business associates.
Even Jim Comer and Jim Jordan could not say with as much confidence as you that Joe or even Hunter Biden commited any crime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuEITqtwIiE
Another nothing burger to cause outrage among MAGAs
The msm has really turned you into a hater. Joe Biden is clean to you. Treason. Is he being blackmailed by Zelensky by the way. Or China.
Debunk this.

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In April, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg indicted Trump on charges related to payments in 2016 to porn star Stormy Daniels on the same day that former Biden aide Kathy Chung testified at the House Oversight Committee that the White House version of events regarding Biden’s mishandling of classified documents was wrong. In particular, the documents were not kept in a locked closet at the Penn Biden Center, and Biden’s attorneys had begun retrieving them in May 2022, not November 2022.


In June, Smith indicted Trump in Miami for allegedly retaining White House documents, including classified documents, on the same day lawmakers revealed that Joe and Hunter Biden had received payments of $5 million each from the corrupt Ukrainian energy company Burisma. The lawmakers had viewed a report, recorded on a form known as an FD-1023, in which bribes were described by a trusted FBI informant. The news was drowned out by the first, historic federal indictment of a former presidenet.

Later the same month, Smith filed a superseding indictment in the “documents” case the day after Hunter Biden’s “sweetheart” plea bargain with federal prosecutors in Delaware fell apart in court. Under the agreement, Hunter Biden was to have accepted a guilty plea for two tax misdemeanors and a diversion program for a gun violation. But the judge questioned a provision that had shielded Hunter Biden from further prosecution of his financial dealings, in which President Biden may have been involved.


On Tuesday, Smith filed his indictment against Trump relating to his attempts to contest the 2020 presidential election. The indictment came the day after former Hunter Biden business associate Devon Archer testified at the House Oversight Committee that Hunter Biden had put his father on the telephone with Hunter’s business associates; that Hunter Biden had been hired by Burisma to influence then-Vice President Joe Biden to stop a prosecutor; and that Hunter Biden had made money from China.

In addition, Tuesday morning’s headlines in a variety of outlets led with the news that polls were showing that Trump was not only likely to win the Republican presidential nomination, but could defeat President Biden in a rematch in November 2024.

The timing could be sheer coincidence, as the two investigations are running in parallel. However, the timing has made it much harder for Attorney General Merrick Garland to convince Americans that his department is not carrying out a political agenda.


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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 7:17am On Aug 02, 2023
MentalCase98:
It’s crazy. So obviously coordinated. 3 times in a row. Anyone who doesn’t see it is dumb. You are right they are saving the Georgia indictment for the next time Biden is in hot water.

I can’t believe this is happening in America. It’s some 3rd world banana republic stuff.

The indictment itself is laughable. Charging him for making false statements lmao. I guess all politicians will soon be going to jail then.
Tells you all about liberals. Giddy like toddlers at the thought of seeing him wearing orange suits
All his indictments, No obvious crimes. inquisitor looks for any law to charge him.
This time his lawyers are being charged too. Intimidation tacticts to any other lawyer
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 4:38am On Aug 02, 2023
On every occasion bad news breaks out of Bidens crimes, Trump gets indicted. The MSM goes ballistic, totally blacking out Biden crimes with trump indictment.
First time, indictment came several days later , leaks came out a few hours later after Biden bad news.
Next 3 Biden bad news breakout, Trump's indictment out within 24 hours
Georgia indictment not out. Probably some bad Biden news is expected to break out so that DOJ can unleash the Georgia indictment then.
Questioning an election is now a crime.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 4:26am On Aug 02, 2023
Ladyhippolyta88:
So you think God and nature cannot take it's course on Trump but only on Biden? grin grin grin

Lol.
When Biden wins Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Arizona again don't wail. grin grin
Tell me lawyer/advocate. Dies America have any law about counting votes long after election day until a democrat wins!!!
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 4:14am On Aug 02, 2023
MentalCase98:
You don't even know who he is. How do you know you are better than him in all these things?

Initially I thought it was just pompousness. Now I believe its straight up mental retardation. There is something fundamentally wrong with you this boy. For A man with such alleged high qualities you sure have a pathological need to prove yourself to complete strangers on the internet.

You know the main reason we don't believe you have a girlfriend? It's not really about all the gayish pictures you dropped in the past..It's because nobody who observes you here for any significant period of time would ever believe ANY woman can be attracted to a repulsive, shallow, immature, uncharismatic and severely mentally handicapped man like you.

Well, unless she herself is some kind of degenerate sha. So if she is real, then there is something definitely wrong with her as well.



Make sure you show her this post too.
If his supposed girlfriend back home read all of ije's posts she would not know it's him.Because none of what he says has any truth.
She would probably want to date a man like him, a boring pompous man to fund her ashawo lifestyle. While she services every sweat stinking villager.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 8:01pm On Aug 01, 2023
IjeBos:
What city am I in? IjeBos lol. I'll let you figure it out. Lol. You guys really aren't smart.
And what lies have I told about my family wealth?
Show my anywhere in this thread where I have been inconsistent about anything I've posted.
You gloat like an adolescent with nothing to offer and belittling Nigerians back home.
You ain't the only one there.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 7:21pm On Aug 01, 2023
IjeBos:
Pick one.



vs.
Yea right.
America is a continent.
Which city are you in?
You are an idiot. To remain faceless you dont reveal everything about yourself.
Just like you lie about your wealth back home, while you could have been smuggled in by a gay fa.ggot member of the mexican drug cartels for all we care.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 7:04pm On Aug 01, 2023
IjeBos:
Don't care who is in the US. But several people in this thread seem to want to lie about it.
What does the time difference have to do with any of this?

He said in March he would never travel to the US. Made a point about posting he was going to Qatar (never mentioned the US). Two months after that in May, he supposedly went and returned from his trip to Qatar, got a US Visa, bought a ticket, found housing and landed in the US? Bullshit. He was either lying then or is lying now. Either way he's a liar.
Who writes the truth always on a faceless anonymous forum?
You only want to hear the worst of people. Had he gone on another thread and borrowed N200 for airtime, you would be ejaculating here non stop.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 6:47pm On Aug 01, 2023
IjeBos:
March : In Nigeria saying you will never go to the US; supposedly booking a Trip To Qatar


May :Then 2 months later, back from your Qatar trip and now in the US


I report you decide… lol.
I've never caught a whiff of Ben lying
What's the big deal about him.being in America? Why you act that being there is a preserve for whom the gods smiled upon... Those whose parents own Lincoln's and Chryslers etc.
You sound very daft like those socialites whose Instagram is full of exotic places visited.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 6:38pm On Aug 01, 2023
feedthenation:
---Even Fox News' favorite legal commentator Jonathan Turley: "It is an extremely damning indictment ... this is not an indictment that you can dismiss"---



---Turley later: "It's really breathtaking. Obviously, this is mishandling, you know, putting classified documents into ballrooms and bathrooms is -- it borders on the bizarre. ... the visual and audio tape evidence is really daunting"---

https://twitter.com/i/status/1667246575951699968p
Feedthenation. See what Jonathan Turley says about the treasonous criminal Biden corruption family.


Jonathan Turley responds to Devon Archer alleging that Joe Biden was on the phone 20 times with Hunter's shady business partners:

"This is shaping up to be one of the greatest corruption scandals in the history of Washington, and that is saying a lot.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 4:16pm On Aug 01, 2023
Those who support Trump like say , Dr Carlson need to be reeducated.
You could be his teacher .
You are a fukin idiot

IjeBos:
No, they need an education and critical thinking skills. Normally the uninformed(uneducated) know they are uninformed(uneducated) and strive not to be. In this Trump era those people don't. Illiteracy is a badge of honor. Look at your posts in this thread. You are still posting on the indictments, making arguments based on them, but still haven't read them to be informed on them. I would never dare engage in a discussion about something I haven't thoroughly researched out of fear of being made look stupid by someone who is in the know. I would just sit, listen and learn. That same fear of shame doesn't seem to exist with the Modern Day Republican party.

But seriously, Trump is a 2x impeached soon to be 4x indicted ex-president and he is leading the Republican primary. Google John Edwards and you'll see the difference in the parties.
As for impeachment No 1, this was done to protect Joe Biden corruption being exposed
Impeachment 2 was , dirty up his name so that he would never hold office had senate impeached him.
These indictments, with no clear cut crime, they have to look for statutes Trump broke.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 7:15am On Aug 01, 2023
David Archer testified in a closed door session to a house committee.The following briefing was released



“Devon Archer’s testimony today confirms Joe Biden lied to the American people when he said he had no knowledge about his son’s business dealings and was not involved. Joe Biden was ‘the brand’ that his son sold around the world to enrich the Biden family. When Joe Biden was Vice President of the United States, he joined Hunter Biden’s dinners with his foreign business associates in person or by speakerphone over 20 times. When Burisma’s owner was facing pressure from the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating the company for corruption, Archer testified that Burisma executives asked Hunter to ‘call D.C.’ after a Burisma board meeting in Dubai.


“Why did Joe Biden lie to the American people about his family’s business dealings and his involvement? It begs the question what else he is hiding from the American people. The House Committee on Oversight and Accountability will continue to follow the Bidens’ money trail and interview witnesses to determine whether foreign actors targeted the Bidens, President Biden is compromised and corrupt, and our national security is threatened.


Before that, Georgia judge threw out his petition to stop the witch-hunt It hogged the headlines.
The House Committee will release Archer's transcript in a few days time.
Between now and this release expect more anti Trump rhetorics and indictments.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 7:09am On Aug 01, 2023
bemeruca:
hahaha, the only one with grey hair here is Budaatum but unfortunately he is bald.
When gay men like you can't take other peoples opinion so you try to get a mod to ban them that is what happens. More Monikers for you to cry about.
You right. Buda must be gay and paedo. Those who insanely defend children to change genders most likely want young boys to dress like girls.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 7:00am On Aug 01, 2023
raumdeuter:
Over half the people who signed up for Threads have stopped using it already, prompting Mark Zuckerberg to push for 'hooks' to entice users, report says


https://www.businessinsider.com/threads-lost-more-than-half-its-users-mark-zuckerberg-says-2023-7

This death of Twitter seems not to be happening as fast as predicted
Liberals are lunatics. They n
want to leave twatter because anyone can now oppose then .Wanted a safe space.
Zuckerberg launched threads through IG , Many people logged onto threads the Twitter killer to preserve their IG/ FB usernames
Threads from day one was data harvesting and moderating content.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 6:52am On Aug 01, 2023
IjeBos:
This poll says it all. Clinton was right. The GOP is a party of deplorables.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/31/trump-ahead-of-desantis-poll-finds-00108949
I like that reasoning. Because half the country loves Trump, you think half a country is stupid and needs re-education.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 6:44pm On Jul 31, 2023
IjeBos:
Listen you still haven't read the indictment. How do I know? Because you keep making statements that are contrary to it. One example, the "Iran document" you claimed wasn't charged, was charged in Count 32 of the superseding indictment. The two images below are from the superseding indictment.
https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf

And these aren't kid games. Not only do they have a recording of that actual meeting, they most likely have a witness or witnesses who will testify that he was waving around the classified document they charged him on.

There is no point engaging with you if you can't bother to do it in an honest way by actually familiarizing yourself with the stuff you are discussing.
Is a presentation a document by the way?
Trump says he did not wave it.Only newspaper clippings.
How do we know they did not look for it after their bogus claim could not be proved?
Too trusting of the FBI Gestapo .Why did they not charge him at first?
Why now?
You are saying that Jack must have a witness. Guesswork not allowed here.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico:
IjeBos:
Have you heard of Occam's razor. You seem to always construct the most elaborate conspiracy to explain anything. Start with the simplest answer and if it doesn't make sense or you get new data, then move on to something more complex. If any of those documents pointed to Government malfeasance, why didn't Trump reveal i?. In fact knowing Trump, if there was even an iota of anything improper, he would have been hyping it from now till kingdom come. It would have became the GREATEST CRIME EVER.

The documents weren't declassified. The documents were not supposed to have been declassified. Some are being declassified now and may be shown in court because Trump let them be public. By doing so he most likely already shut down/put in danger whatever sources and methods they relied on.
Specifically the Russia hoax was a lie concocted by Clinton and that John Brennan had briefed St Jesus of Chicago.
The Russia hoax had to go on , the Saint should be never be mentioned.
Don't forget that the Saint and Joe Biden were behind the nefarious scheme to force Gen Flynn to quit as the Nat Sec Advisor.

Durham found that then-CIA Director John Brennan "realized the significance" of the intelligence that Clinton was stirring up a plan to tie Trump to Russia—so much so, he "expeditiously" briefed then-President Barack Obama, then-Vice President Joe Biden, and other top national security officials.

But nothing came of that briefing or of his subsequent referral of the information to the FBI, according to Durham’s final report.


https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/05/ENCLOSURE_1__Brennan_Notes__U-1.pdf

You can see how severely they redacted that as if Hillary lying is a matter of national security.
Criminals being democrats have to be protected if you did not know.

With that clearly explained, it's plain to see after Trump declassed the Crossfire Hurricane in Dec, they slow walked it, till he carted off the evidence of DoJ/FBI corruption

When you make the baseless claim that Trump did not declass, how was he supposed to go about it in law?You don't know because there is no clear procedure about it.
That's why they used a 1917 espionage statute meant to deter defence contractors from holding on to any documents they come across in the course of their duty.

Literally looking for statutes to indict Republicans.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 3:09pm On Jul 31, 2023
Obrigardo:
If you've noticed this liar told us it was just news paper clippings about weeks ago and that it was not a classified doc.

This same fool.

So you believe now it was a secret doc. Even when criminal trump confessed on tape he didn't declassify it, why do you want President Biden to declassify it for you now? What a real piece of 💩 shit this man.
Trump said it was a bundle of newspaper clippings.
The charge is that he is on tape saying he did not declass it. That does not mean he was waving it to his biographer or whoever was in the meeting.
The Iran doc is not part of the 31 counts.

Ijeboss. The judge wanted a special master to go through the docs inorder to determine if they were classified. DoJ appealed to a higher court which ruled that the docs could only be reviewed by them...The DoJ does not seem even willing to share the docs with Trump and his lawyers. It's for them to declare that the docs are highly classified No other person should review.
They would obviously say this because the docs expose how FBI blatantly pushed fwd with Russia hoax knowing it was a lie concocted by Hillary campaign.

As for deleting, Trump has said the SC was given all the footage.He told someone that he wanted the footage deleted, but it was not. That telling someone is now a conspiracy charge.

When Trump talks SC looks for any statute that can indict him.

Hell they were even questioning his closest aides about whether he believed Joe Biden won. In other words looking for anything he said to charge him with rejecting election results. Don't you know that doubting election results is a danger to democracy?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico:
IjeBos:
Says whom? You've repeatedly stated things but haven't posted anything to back them up.
Whenever I make a point I try to always post the original source document or a well sourced article. So, for every argument you've just made, post the source you got it from. I'll even accept the National Review or Wall Street Journal as sources (not their editorial section), though I wouldn't regularly trust their reporting.

I do get the question of the Counts. In US courts, if they are charging a Count based on a document, they have to declassify that document and then show it to the Jury. This works in Trump's favor as a lot of this stuff was HIGHLY classified (only a select group people saw some of them). So, the Prosecution has to decide which documents they can show and are willing to let the public see. This isn't unique. In some cases, they don't even prosecute or prosecute for lesser crimes because they are unwilling to show the documents. And also it's not unique not to charge for every count you can charge. Happens all the time in US courts. I mean if each count has a 5 year sentence(not sure that is the number) and Trump is in his late 70's. Don't you think those 31 counts are sufficient?

Again, you still haven't shown you've read or understood the Presidential Records Act. Why would you argue something you haven't read?

And lastly, whether he classified it or didn't classify it or even whether he thought he owned or actually did own it doesn't matter. The minute you get a valid subpoena, you have to turn everything over. It's not a choice or an option. Unfortunately for Trump, they worded the subpoena to request for "any document with a classification marking". If a document was supposedly declassified and still had it's markings, he hard to turn them over. He didn't. So, he is looking at Obstruction of Justice at the minimum.
Hypothetically. If the investigation by FBI on JFK death pointed to CIA, would classifying the investigation be an act to protect the state security? Or it would be to cover the crimes committed by those criminals ?
II do hope we can agree that esp FBI does classify docs to protect their own crimes.

Documents when declassified should be made available to the public pronto. Public document releases should not be stonewalled, at least that's my understanding.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 11:33am On Jul 30, 2023
wirinet:
Not exactly correct. The president is not the ultimate declass authority. It depends on the type of document and the reason for the declassification. Congress has the powers to declassify certain types of documents, while the president has the powers to declassify certain documents. Agencies of government also possess the powers to declassify documents originating from its departments
As I checked, Trump said he could declassify anything by just thinking. All
I see from fact checkers is theories on what needs to be done. There is no clear cut procedure in law that directs the declass process. All I've seen is experts say that Congress needs to enact a law governing the declass process.
Of course Congress would impeach him if he grossly violated the national security. I think that's the ultimate check on presidential powers.
As it stands the powers to declass end with the CEO and CiC, everyone else is under the executive and acts as an agent of the president with no right to question him.In the sham impeachment No 1. A whistleblower leaked to Congress ,who impeached him.

Once again the president cannot order a declass of any document. There are guidelines and procedures for declassifying classified documents.
The president can declassify most classified documents with the use of executive orders. He has to actually sign an executive order before the process of declassification can commence. Even at that nuclear secrets and certain defense information cannot be unilaterally declassified by the president. The Atomic Energy Act of 1954 mandates that Documents containing Restricted Data/FormallyRistricted Data are exempted from automatic declassification and must be reviewed by Department of Energy prior to release.
I agree about nuclear secrets and others. As stated Congress can discipline the president.
The DoJ can only investigate if any law has been broken..There is no current law that explicitly states the president cannot declass anything


The documents you are referring to were FBI investigations on his 2016 campaign’s contacts with Russia. Its not a blanket declassification request for all government classified documents. Trump had requested the declassification of the documents since December 2019, and FBI had given its approval after redacting some names. I don't understand the relevance of this with the Iran documents.
Why would a president declassify US invasion plans of Iran or any other country?
In that declass order of 2021, he wrote to the AG , got feedback and mentioned the need to protect sources.

https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/presidential-actions/memorandum-declassification-certain-materials-related-fbis-crossfire-hurricane-investigation/

He declassified the Russian hoax, Some other body says he cannot hold on to them? They wanted every document including postcards from his day One.
As for Iran documents, has Jackboot produced the invasion plan .. which anyway is in public domain.

A New Yorker story written before the meeting alleged that Milley had prevented Trump from striking Iran. The General had been worried that the president “might set in motion a full-scale conflict that was not justified,” according to the piece.

Trump hit back in the July meeting, saying he had a four-paged document written by Milley containing a plan to attack Iran, “deploying massive numbers of troops, something he urged President Trump to do more than once during his presidency,” according to one of the attendees. A recording of the conversation suggests the president may have brought a printed out version of Milley’s report to the meeting.


Suggests is the key word. Where is the document recovered from the raid? You notice Milley is lying about preventing an attack, Trump privately says Milley is the one who wanted the attack and had a plan for it.

It requires no intelligence to determine that the feds are corrupt, they badly wanted to cover their asses by holding on to any documents that portrayed them in bad light.

Sham Jackboot case.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 8:56am On Jul 30, 2023
Devon Archer, Hunter Biden best friend and business partner to testify on Monday.Testimony that can bring the criminal Biden family
crashing down.
Expect another major leak/story to break tomorrow before Archer's testimony. Examples like Trump getting more horrendous indictments , or stories about Aliens in space ships crash landing in Washington DC. Story to be amplified by evil media in order to water down Archer's testimony.

Hunter Biden's former best friend and business partner who is set to give Congress bombshell evidence against the Biden family is now 'in hiding' after receiving 'threats', a source close to him told DailyMail.com.

Devon Archer, 49, has been forced to flee both his Long Island and Brooklyn homes, he told friends – but still plans to testify to the House Oversight Committee on Monday.

Archer partnered with Hunter on multiple shady overseas deals, and was subpoenaed by the committee in June to testify.

A source close to Archer confirmed reports that he is set to testify about meetings he attended with his and Hunter's foreign business partners, where the First Son allegedly had Joe Biden on speakerphone.

The source added that Hunter's former Rosemont Seneca consultancy partner has been concerned for his and his family's safety in the days after his planned testimony was announced.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12336855/Hunter-Bidens-business-partner-Devon-Archer-hiding-fears-familys-safety-receiving-threats-testify-Congress-week-shady-dealings-Son.html

Some people here believe the FBI is impartial.
mtchew
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico:
IjeBos:
Step 1: Post the actual statutes he was indicted on from the indictment and superseding indictment.
Step 2: Post the the Section from the Presidential Records Act that says the president can keep any document he sees fit. You'll probably bring up the Clinton Socks case. So also link to the ruling/holding of that case. Quote the holding and then quote the place where you think that ruling entitles Trump to keep the Records.

I am telling you that what you wrote/write sound like gibberish. Do those Steps above and you'll also agree what you wrote sounds like gibberish. Do the Steps above and you'll be in a sufficiently knowledgeable place that I'll engage you in the rest.

And FYI, you haven't read the indictments. Your posts say so.
While I look to answer you, let's start from my slate which I doubt you are aware.

Trump declassed some docs before leaving WH.Mostly about the Russian hoax. NARA wanted every document created from Jan 2017 till his last day.Meaning they wanted docs implicatting DoJ, FBI and CIA in pushing the hoax

Mar a Lago search. They took away 13000 documents. They claim they found 102 documents that DoJ said had classification markings or were classified. Having classification markings is not the same as classified documents. Trump was indicted on 31 counts plus other 6 .Why not 102? Maybe the other 71 contain evidence that the fbi and DoJ are criminal mafia orgs.
Which comes to this. Under the Presidential Records Act.was Trump doing anything remotely illegal?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico:
wirinet:
You have time to be responding to him. He says the most stupid things in his rabid defense of Trump. How can the presidential records act say a president can keep any government documents he likes? The presidential records act was referring to how incumbent presidents treats records - classified or not. Where there is a dispute in the presidential records act is personal documents/records of the president and not nuclear secrets or military documents. The law can never mandate all former presidents take all government documents as his personal property.

I honestly believe Basilico's life is tied to the defense of Trump. He says one thing, if that thing is debunked, he jumps unto another, and so on. Then a few weeks later he starts the cycle again with the same debunked claim. He says Trump was showing newspaper clipping and not actual Iran invasion plans, once that has been debunked, he switches to Trump had declassified the documents (a claim that Trump's lawyers refused to present in court), if if it was debunked that there is no evidence Trump declassified the documents, he then switches to whataboutism and 2 tier justice system.

Reading his desperation at grasping any straw to defend Trump is annoying.
I'll respond to Ijeboss later. He asked something very reasonable devoid of emotions or bias
By president can keep anything that's not the law it's as an implication. The president is the ultimate declass authority.
He can order a declass of any document. Guide me on how he is supposed to do this in law, what does the law say is the process? Did he follow the law because you claim that his declass orders can be debunked?
He is supposed to beg his juniors to allow/reject his orders?


Iran documents. I posted what Trump said...Verbatim. Those were newspaper clippings. I also posted a cbs article quote -His attorneys did not find that specific document.
If you backtrack, I posted a memo from Trump declassifying sone documents before he left the WH.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico:
IjeBos:
You haven't read the original indictment.
You haven't read the superseding indictment.
But, you spend a good amount of time writing these posts about them.
FYI, you could be a better sycophant if you actually took that time and read the indictments, actually knew what Trump is accused of doing or not doing and what witnesses and evidence the prosecutors have.
That way you would know the facts and be able to spin them without looking totally foolish.
They are easy reads; read them.
I have read Jackboots indictment.
He says Trump posseses documents he is not supposed to have and charges him for espionage... 31 counts.
What about the Presidential Records Act? Under that Act I do believe the president is entitled to keep any documents he sees fit Jackboot looked for a loophole to charge him
The other counts are based on what he told his lawyer, his lawyers notes who was forced to be a prosecution witness. If Trump told his lawyer that he wanted to burn the WHouse , Jackboot would have indicted Trump on conspiracy to damage property.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 1:03pm On Jul 29, 2023
Obrigardo:
You are dumb like a wet rock. Your criminal overlord said it on tape - he didn't declassify shit.
And did you see the new superseding indictments? You bet more are on the way.
He said he has classified docs.Was he joking, did he give anyone to go through it? I highly doubt he had anything, which he knew was top secret and let anyone peruse it.

New indictment.. He wanted to delete the tapes, he did not. Charge..conspiracy to obstruct or cause someone to obstruct.
Actual obstruction NEVER happened. All tapes were handed over.
Has the particular document been produced, or it's too top secret for anyone apart from DoJ to see it?

Looks like if Trump expresses something, he is indicted for it.
For instance he said "I can't believe Biden really beat me"
And now they will indict him for that...saying that he told his aides privately that he lost, but telling the public that he won.

What kinda justice is that
The 33-377 charges in Jackboot case stem from what he told he told his lawyer. The lawyer was forced to be a prosecution witness.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 10:31pm On Jul 28, 2023
Obrigardo:
My boy, you are a fool.
You previously said the Iran attack doc criminal trump was flinging around was some paper clippings.
Now the DOJ is in possession of the doc, and rightly calls it the DOC.
But not to braindead idiots like you who still listens to a failing disgusting racist and evil criminal.
DoJ has the document. That's OK..Do they have proof it was not declassified by the presiden?

Washington — The Defense Department memo on Iran — at the heart of the now-public audio recording that captured a July 2021 meeting with former President Donald Trump — is not part of the 31 counts of willful retention of national defense information charged in special counsel Jack Smith's indictment of the former president, a source familiar with the matter confirmed to CBS
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 5:29pm On Jul 28, 2023
Ijeboss.
Very interesting on Secret Service protection.
If Trump is jailed would he have secret service guarding him in the cells?

Kennedy Jnr , Biden main Demonrat opponent has been denied secret service protection by Joe Biden admin.

When crackhead Hunter appeared in court this week , he had secret service protection and a six vehicle motorcade.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 4:16pm On Jul 28, 2023
IjeBos:
Trump's former Lawyer Ty Cobb on the new superseding indictment.

“The original indictment was engineered to last a thousand years and now this superseding indictment will last an antiquity.
This is such a tight case, the evidence is so overwhelming.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blWCQGNENwE
Laughable. Trump handed over the security tapes. He had asked whether they can delete the tapes. Indictment based on him asking whether the tapes can be deleted, but did not.
He also flashed some document about plans to invade Iran, they never found the document but since he had mentioned it , he gets indicted.

There’s no document there. Those were newspaper articles. They were copies of articles and magazines. There was no document there,” Trump, 77, told Brett Baier of Fox News in an interview, pushing back on a key facet of the federal criminal case against him.
That's my understanding.
Just throwing mud to the walls to see what will stick.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico: 4:12pm On Jul 28, 2023
Fake news debunked. Giuliani never admitted to lying about Georgia election.

The evil media also lied about Giuliani cooperating with Jackboot Smith.

In other news Georgia Fulton courts barriers installed in preparation for Trump's indictment for questioning Georgia elections

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: 2026 Midterm Elections Live! by basilico:
Obrigardo:
Yes, he is not the president, stupid. I don't think Hunter has done anything to affect your family or put food on your table, if you ever had any to begin with. But criminal trump destroyed the US economy, cost millions their jobs, and needlessly killed millions of Americans by letting covid run rampant. His actions have destroyed so many lives. Only a braindead cultist like you won't be able to see reality because of the hate in your heart.
Exactly how did he destroy the economy. Listening to Dr Faucci (who demanded lockdowns and watering down of Ivermectin )
so that big pharma would reap
big on vaccines.Lay down the metrics.

Lawlfare. Using the DoJ to jail your enemies. Joe Biden has started a trend.

Join this support group and learn how doctors forced patients to take remdesvir (so)
Which led to kidney and liver failures
https://formerfedsgroup.org/remdesivir/survivors-support-group/

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