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MentalCase98:
Was there ever any doubt?

Trump wants trial televised .
Judge is hostile to him, jury most likely all democrat activists
Smith wants Trump gagged from revealing exculpatory evidence availed to the defence
If no televused, judge will allow AP, CNN, MSNBC, Wapo,and other anti trump journos to cover the proceedings
Joe Biden is a puppet, There are people pulling strings behind his back.Extreme lawlfare against Trump.They want him dead in prison.
The judge trying this case. She is a Biden donor

IjeBos:
So, I can walk into your house, sit on your couch and start saying whatever I want and when you tell me to leave, I can just tell you, "No, I have freedom to express myself" and you have to let me stay and speak?

You should try deliberating with yourself first or "think" as we call it. You wouldn't write should breathtakingly stupid stuff.

And don't mention me in the same sentence with your daughters again. You won't like what I have to say.

Threats. I look or sound like someone scared of words.

Go slow, hold your horses. You are dwelling on irrelevances
We debate Murica here, yahoo boys be scared being exposed.

IjeBos:
So it is "elitism" to believe everyone should be treated equally and follow the rules?
Why should Ben and someone like Slyfoxx be treated differently than every other poster here who follows the rules?
He broke the rules here, got banned and just created a new username to continue breaking the rules.
I understand because he is incapable of controlling himself he may seem the victim. But he is not a victim.

But thanks for the clarification of why the Republican party is in the shambles it is and supports Trump. Clearly, you feel rules don't apply to you. Tell me how well that is working out for Nigeria.

Freedom to express yourself is a guarantee.You don't want them, unfortunately Sein has not provided a platform where you can block OPs and not see what you post. A feature WordPress allows, Sein has his own homegrown website.
Deal with it. Ship up or ship out.
I actually enjoying deliberating with some people, builds up on how I advice my 3 girls advice , they are about to face the world on their own Yahoo boys like you will be on my scope.

IjeBos:
Fact Check:
This user has not read the indictment.
The First Amendment argument is a canard. The indictment is not charging Trump with only his speech (merely claiming he lost the election), but the actions he took afterward like creating false electors to try to steal peoples votes.

It's like Tony Soprano ordering someone to kill someone. That person does. Then Tony Soprano saying his order to kill the person was 1st Amendment protected speech.

James Hadley Chase and Nancy Drew wrote fictional books on crime.
Someone executed their plans. Charge Hadley or Nancy Drew.
( We had a home library of Hadley Chase, Nancy Drew, Perry Mason. I still remember "No orchids for Miss Blandish" I'll look for their paperbacks.)
Boy You so out of yourself

Charge the movie producer.
Charge Trump for calling protesters to a rigged election. Where a basement Biden won the most votes in history.


You R A Sick puppy

MentalCase98:
That is what you guys believe. People on the other side see in Trump a man who has been unfairly and viciously targeted by a weaponized justice system because the elite class hate not just him but the common man in middle America whom he represents. They NEVER want to see a populist like him become president ever again so they are doing everything in their power to make an example of him and take him out. Every new ridiculous indictment of him only strengthens this belief among his supporters.

There will never be a single popular consensus on Trump so you can forget all this talk about History. He will always be a polarizing figure. Half of America will always see him as a villain, the other half will remember him as a man who sacrificed his life of luxury to go through hell just to fight for them in the corrupt DC system.

He will be regarded by them as a martyr Because to me that is exactly what happened. Trump didn't need to be president. He was popular across America before he became president and we all know none of these legal issues he is going through now would have been happening if he hadn't ran for president, won and pissed off the DC elite and intelligence agencies. They have thrown everything at this man and he is still fighting. Hate him or love him you can't deny this man is extraordinary. 99% of men would have broken if put through half the shit he has gone through.

This is how we see him and no matter how much you rant and cry on nairaland it wont change nothing.

But but his mean tweets. Liberals need a safe space where they feel secure.
Impeach Trump.Ban him from Twitter, Facebook, YouTube IG etc. Democrats (sarcastic) believe in free speech...or is it First Amendment.

IjeBos:
These are the username and time spent for the known usernames of yours.
On one of your usernames (benalvino) you have spend more time on here than I have on my 1 and ONLY account.
People in glass houses definitely shouldn't be throwing stones.

Report him and have him banned. 'elites' know everything and so Ben should be banned

basilico:
Everyone is allowed to protest. The intention of the protest was not to storm congress. It was to make sure they knew a crowd outside felt the separate group of electors would be discussed. Some states had sent an objectional list of electors ( I will get you that list) and the procedures I outlined above were supposed to have been followed. Instead a pipe bomb was found and the session was cancelled just before Ray Epps gang removed the barricades. And Trump rally 20 minutes later ended after Ray Epps and his FBI fiends had started the chaos.
The whole thing was a setup. It does not take an idiot to see that unless your brains are closed,

Here is a video of Democrats objecting in 2017. Objections have been there so Trump doing the same was no crime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ZtrFaa8Tw

Here is CCTV footage of the guy who stopped the objectors before discussions on the electors started. FBI have all these videos they have never arrested him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVGedQ17XqI

An earlier post I made about Trump objections to the rigged elections . Video of Dems objecting the electors and another video of the Jan5 pipe bomb planter .
Whom the most efficient investigating agency in the world has never arrested.
I correct myself. The objections were stopped after news of pipe bombs being found. The news relayed to Pelosi led to her minutes before Ray Epps led group breached the first barrier and the second stopping the session pronto
Adjournment took place before the "rioters' breached the barrier. In true sense and reason, after resumption of the certification session Pence did not have the authority to call in the objectors.Count the electoral votes to declare JB the duly rigged in POTUS.
In this upcoming sham trial all this will come out. Trump has subpoena powers of the day as part of the discovery process. jackboot exculpatory material to defence does not include the J6 shenanigans orchestrated by the feds.

Jackboot accuses Trump of conspiracy to defraud Ijeboss and his cohorts of election results. Meaning he knew senile Joe got more votes but he conspired to lie that it was a rigged election. Jackboot has to prove that Trump knew he had lost yet went ahead to claim he won.

Verily verily I say unto you with an example or two.

Obama decreed that the senate was in recess and went ahead to appoint some people to the Labour Commission 2013-14. Senate was not in recess in reality. Obama knew this was a lie or at least his legal advisors must have told him.The Supreme Court struck down his appointments.
Jackboot would have indicted Obama on this, conspiring to defraud the USA. By the same reasoning Smith indicts Trump for saying the elections were rigged and seeking state help to review electors and votes in an election everyone believes was rigged.

Joe Biden before midterm elections erased student loans. He personally said he didn't have legal authority yet went ahead with the waiver. Pelosi had said " People think POTUS has powers to erase student loans, he does not have".
Jackboot would indict Biden for this. Joe knew very well he didn't have the powers yet went ahead. The Supreme Court stopped him.Joe conspired to defraud the govt.

In other words Smith indictment is a total sham.political stunt that should not be allowed,
Smith should be jailed.He is the criminal here, breaking the law to find a crime to pin on Trump and interference in rigged-to-be elections.

Addendum.
Judges in DC courts who have jailed J6 protesters were in the courtroom for the indictment.
Presiding judge has sentences J6 protesters (including grandmother's) to more jail terms than sentencing recommendations.
Trump will not get a fair trial by jury in a place where he got 5% of the votes.

As for Jan 6 riots, the protesters did not disrupt the official proceedings.Pelosi stopped the certification of the electors immediately after someone told her some pipe bombs had been found outside the RNC and DNC offices. FBI has never arrested the dud bomb planter. They have call records of everyone around there, this bomb planter is on CCTV till some subway and he sat down on a lawn and made some phone call. All on CCTV.
Jackboot says the session was obstructed by the rioters,in actual fact it was the bombs found.Jackboot never mentioned this.

Jack Smith was sent exculpatory documents before the indictment latest. He received them Then days later asked for the same documents.
When indicting he had not gone through them. Probably because he needed to water down Devon Archer's testimony immediately and Georgia was not ready.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernard-kerik-donald-trump-records-may-not-have-been-reviewed-by-special-counsel/

source close to Kerik's legal team said at the time that they believed the records, which include sworn affidavits from people raising concerns about the integrity of the 2020 presidential contest, show there was a genuine effort to investigate claims of voter fraud in the last election

BraniacX:
is this you pretending to be sensible in order to engage with me?😏
Lemme humour you
Of the cuff
1. They are both radical nationalists
2. They both harbour or give platform to those who openly preach or espouse beliefs of racial superiority or exclusivity of certain groups of people
3. They both support crony capitalism
4. They both claim to be anti-communist/anti-socialist (in the case of the Nazis at least, anti-stalin in the latter phase of the war)
5. They both defend oppression of specific groups either(by commission) directly in the case of the nazis or indirectly(by omission) in the case of the Republicans.
And oh, I'm talking about the current republican party, not the party of Lincoln and not the party before the ideological switch of the late 50's and early 60's

Addendum.
Biden and Sanders forged a pact in July 2020 that effectively pushed Biden to the further progressive left
Sanders doesnt describe himself as Marxist/Communist. Instead he uses socialist or progressive to hoodwink.
Dems at heart are heading to full blown communism.
Which don't sell, they use Saul Alinsky Rules.
They accuse the other side of doing exactly what they are doing.

https://sliwainsights.com/saul-alinskys-12-rules-for-radicals/

Obama and Hillary Clinton greatly admired Saul Alinsky.Hillary thesis was on Saul Alinsky who honored Lucifer in his book.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/20/hillary-clinton-saul-alinsky-and-lucifer-explained/

Obama was inspired by Saul Alinsky to become a community organiser in Chicago.

Ben Sanders is all communist, His honeymoon was in Russia. He spent months in a kibbutz, a small collective community and farm in Israel. They later kicked him out I think of being lazy.

Who are the Marxists of today-
Democrats or Republicans?

Download the pact from here
https://joebiden.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/UNITY-TASK-FORCE-RECOMMENDATIONS.pdf
It contains nothing positive about the state of America at the time.

I have seen comments here about Democracy, the beauty of a one man rule ,read China.
Support for military dictators has been espoused too, also explored was the advantages of benevolent dictators
That is what is being taught in colleges today a first step to brainwashing left/progressives
next generation.

BraniacX:
is this you pretending to be sensible in order to engage with me?😏
Lemme humour you
Of the cuff
1. They are both radical nationalists

As if being a nationalist is wrong. That's what globalists demonize. National interests first. Diversity. China, Japan and the Asian tigers don't kill themselves with diversity.
Radical left who glue themselves to the tarmac in order to save the planet.

2. They both harbour or give platform to those who openly preach or espouse beliefs of racial superiority or exclusivity of certain groups of people

Broad brush. Liberal Nazis think they are superior in all ways. Intellectually, wealthwise and seek to censor any view they don't like.

3. They both support crony capitalism

Solution? We aboilish capitalism.
However I think it's the left using govt wealth ie taxes to impose their radical agendas.

4. They both claim to be anti-communist/anti-socialist [I] in the case of the Nazis at least, anti-stalin in the latter phase of the war [/i])

What is wrong with being anticommunist.

5. They both defend oppression of specific groups either(by commission) directly in the case of the nazis or indirectly(by omission) in the case of the Republicans.

As if democrats don't want to oppress republicans. Don't you long for the day whites will be a minority in America, hoping immigrants will vote democrats.. Save from Cubans who know how communist states behave.. like jailing your opponents on spurious charges.

And oh, I'm talking about the current republican party, not the party of Lincoln and not the party before the ideological switch of the late 50's and early 60's

Bring up the ideological shift in another thread.I will not repeat what I've stated here before

Obrigardo:
You are so dumb man. I mean criminal trump barely survives without russian money.
I mean the bonesaw saudi prince flushed Jared kushner with billions after the killing and coverup of Khashoogi.
ivanka trump filing for over 12 patents in china and her criminal father maintaining a Chinese bank account while he was still president?
I mean criminal trump presented criminal trump towers in moscow idea to appease putin.
I could go on and on and on..

You are a fool repeating talking points by media.
Kushner got into a financing deal with Saudi for a real estate project. Something tangible

Joe and Hunter were paid millions by foreign companies and countries for no tangible work done, For influence peddling. Bribes in other words for the paymasters to get favourable deals from Uncle Sam

Obama had so many of his friends and donors get money after 2008 housing crisis. Many of those companies went bankrupt eg Solyandra.
Obama on net neutrality. He had ordered that Internet Service Providers treat all data as equal. Biggest benefeciary was Netflix with 15% global traffic and 21% of US internet.
They gave Obama a $65m deal to produce some documentaries enabling him to buy beach homes ( while warning the world about rising sea levels).
Obama. When he introduced common core ,a publisher of those books later gave the Obamas a book contract worth tens of millions

MentalCase98:
No be only Slyfox. You no like Slycow 😂😂

You will keep tying yourslef in knots trying to investigate who is who across this whole forum.

Jobless fvck 😂😂

Added that as a detour
Ijeboss would never miss it.
He wants everyone not holding onto his warped ideas to be banned.

Obrigardo:
Shut the fvck up! Nothings gonna come out from your bloviating. You've spent all your time on Hunter, when even the crooked gop are confused on what to do because there's nothing there. But not you slimy bullshit artist. You'll only vent here, while in the real world, they have nothing on President Biden. lol

That was Bobulinski. Not me.
Bobulinski was a partner with Hunter Biden. Devon Archer was a partner with Hunter.
They all testify that Joe Biden was involved in the businesses of selling out the country.
Deal with that stop pontificating.
I'll give an example. Russian mayors wife, the richest woman there wired $3.5m to Hunter.
Joe Biden has sanctioned Russia. Oligrachs . This particular Russian has not been sanctioned.

Sly.That boy does not know what influence peddling is.Or he wants to plead for Joe Biden
Witnesses have laid and corroborated several claims.


"I've heard Joe Biden say that he's never discussed business with Hunter. That is false. I have firsthand knowledge about this because I directly dealt with the Biden family, including Joe Biden... [Bobulinski] recalled a conversation with Jim Biden about the family's ties to CEFE, when he asked, "'How are you guys getting away with this? Aren't you concerned?'" to which Bobulinski claimed Jim Biden laughed. "Plausible deniability," Bobulinski said he remembered Jim Biden responding. "He said it directly to me in a cabana at the Peninsula Hotel." ... Bobulinski also claimed during the interview that Biden's denial of knowing about his son's business affairs with the Chinese energy firm was a "blatant lie." Bobulinski described a scene during the interview in which Joe Biden arrived for a conference held partially at the Beverly Hilton Hotel and how Jim Biden and Hunter Biden introduced him to the former vice president. "I didn't request to meet with Joe [Biden]," he told Carlson. "They requested that I meet with Joe [Biden]. They were putting their entire family legacy on the line. They knew exactly what they were doing."

MentalCase98:
I remember the Obama presidency very well because it was during his time I switched from liberal to a conservative.

Fox News really exploded into dominance under his presidency because they were the only network covering his many scandals and constitutional violations. All the other networks were busy kissing his ass 24/7 so many people like me who wanted to hear the truth of what was happening abandoned them and moved to Fox.

Back then the top shows were Glenn Beck and the Bill O’reilly show. Those were my first introduction to conservatism. I just wanted to hear the truth about the Obama administration but ended up learning the truth about life and so many lies I had believed because I only used to listen to liberal networks before. After that I started following Andrew Breitbart, Ben Shapiro, Rush Limbaugh and I haven’t looked back since.

I badly wanted Obama to win 2008. Back then my trustworthy international news was mainly CNN media.
I thought Bush was a disaster, I was quite religious.One day my curiosity circa 2011 led me to just Google if some religion was built on shaky sand.
I realized Obama and many world leaders keep lying about it, I was done wlith him when he first supported Muslim Brotherhood against dictator Mubarak, when he launched Arab spring. Saw how liberal media kept covering up his breakdown of order and civil wars in Libya and Syria
I searched conservative sites , comparing then with liberal media. Realised media is just a narrative pusher. The left is evil , knows it's followers are dumbed down . The left demonizes the right, their followers believe clergy is worse than Jackboot Smith.

This is how the lefties used Facebook to take down content that they don't like

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1687116316073930752.html

bemeruca:
Obama using the IRS to go after his political enemies is not constitutional.

Using the fbi to try and remove trump from the white house is not constitutional

That one thinks Obama is scandal free. A list of Obama scandals here
https://lists.grabien.com/list-complete-guide-scandals-obama-administration

A panda is a very dumb animal. It's a carnivore but prefers to eat plants instead of other animals.
Turkeys are very stupid too. They like drinking rain water despite many dying. They also raise their eyes to the sky when it's raining

Three or four characters here are more stupid than pandas and turkeys.

MentalCase98:
Tell me you don’t know how influence peddling works without telling me you don’t know how influence peddling works.

Of course Joe Biden wouldn’t be directly involved. But as Archer said in the very next line which you refused to highlight; he believes the company would have gone bust if it didn’t have his name attached to it.

You are quite dense for a supposed Harvard graduate.

This boy is dense. Archer says Burisma wanted Joe Biden involved, they hired him and crackpot Hunter to sit in the board. Joe Biden had the Ukrainian prosecutor general fired while he was investigating.
This idiots claim he was fired for not fighting corruption. that the story has been debunked

Ijeboss.
Archer also testified that in December 2015, co-founder of Burisma Mykola Zlochevsky and Burisma executive Vadym Pozharski put pressure on Hunter Biden to get help from Washington, D.C., regarding the Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin, who was investigating Burisma for corruption
Years later, in 2018, Joe Biden bragged about the firing of Shokin during an official visit to Ukraine in 2015. During the visit, he met with former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in Kyiv about Ukraine’s corruption

Obrigardo:
We all know you around here to be the forum idiot. You are so exhausting with this your coconut head.

At least I got a head unlike you

Ah sorry. The republican us a white Nazi party to you. That Vivek Ramaswamy polling second at times to Trump is a white supremacist? .

IjeBos:
And here is part of the the transcript of Republicans Super Duper Explosive witness who will take down Joe Biden.

Note it's a democrat asking him questions with a clear aim of exonerating Joe Biden

Last sentence. "Burisma would have gone out of business if it did not have the Biden brand name."
Pretty sums it all.. A small excerpt . Here is the continuation of Archer's testimony.

"My only thought is that I think Burisma would have gone out of business if it didn’t have the brand attached to it. That’s my, like, only honest opinion,” he said under interrogation from Rep. Dan Goldman (D-NY).

“I think that’s why it was able to survive as long as it did,” he added.

“Well, I don’t understand. How does that have an impact?” Goldman asked.

“My only thought is that I think Burisma would have gone out of business if it didn’t have the brand attached to it. That’s my, like, only honest opinion,” he said under interrogation from Rep. Dan Goldman (D-NY).

“I think that’s why it was able to survive as long as it did,” he added.

“Well, I don’t understand. How does that have an impact?” Goldman asked.

“Well, the capabilities to navigate DC that they were able to, you know, basically be in the news cycle. And I think that preserved them from a, you know, from a longevity standpoint,” Archer responded.

“But how would that work?” the Democrat asked.

“Because people would be intimidated to mess with them,” said Archer


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wirinet:
He is recycling debunked "rigged election" lies from two years ago. This particular video had been dealt with by the Jan 6 committee. Those women came to testify on how that edited video and lies upended their lives, so much so they had to relocate from their homes.

This video had been thoroughly investigated and debunked two years ago, but trust Basilico, he keeps recycling the same conspiracy theories over and over again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq1QvLdznyo

The video was never debunked. If it was they would have released the video they saw. Democrats and Rino's are haughty. They say the opposite. What you are seeing is not what it is in reality.
Obama chef was a trained swimmer, but he drowned because he could not manage to stay afloat.

BraniacX:
but......but................but.............nazis were socialists and the Democrats champion socialists policies therefore the Democrats are nazis🤪 clown 🤡 , it's a little too late to become sensible and take things in context especially for you

What commonality do the Republicans have with the Nazis?

ono:
I never knew Mike Pence is also a RINO and a member of the "Establishment" - Bad news for Republicans.

Was and is. I think Trump was adviced to select him as his running mate. Trump was surrounded by democrats and rinos who never wanted him.
Gen Flynn. Mike Pence is the one who said that Flynn lied to him about the intercepted call to the Russian ambassador.
Looks like he was part of the plot to take Flynn down for the post of Nat Sec Advisor.
Boy Flynn wanted to take down the entrenched deep state in the Intelligence Community
They never let him.

BraniacX:
sense is for and with the sensible, I tried that once with you before then you schooled me on how nazis were socialists because it is in the name therefore "socialists eeeeeevuuuul!" 😏 any Conservative moniker has only one chance to establish being sensible with me and you blew multiple chances so the word "sense" has been removed from your profile and biography! WTF am I even doing explaining to you sef?🙄 there's space for your stupid!ty when you engage mentalnuts and Benalvino3, the rest of us just scroll past the drivel, in the same vain we encourage you to scroll past conversations that don't align with your beliefs and stop butting into them with your stupid!ty as those we actually read and your involvement in them is an eyesore

Oh I ain't forgotten about the Nazi party. It was anti communism.
Hitler did not form the Nazi He joined it , became it's voice and led Germany down the Holocaust path eventually.

Jackboot lies plainly .
He says that Rudy Giuliani agent misled a hearing that ballot boxes were pulled from under the table and counted. Part of his evidence.
This video shows Georgia election thieves doing exactly that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-7E-71Av0k

bemeruca:
Ijebos come and take your lover. gay tennis lol

Ben, DeSantis and Newsom are holding a debate Nov 8.
Implies donors are OK with the two. That says a lot, we have Kennedy Jnr in the race already and it portends Joe Biden will be out, either retires .
2016 Donors were ok with Jeb/Hillary
2008 Donors were ok with McCain/Obama.

BraniacX:
this buffoonery again! Can you just stay away from intelligent convos without interjecting your stupidity into it? Once in a while we want the thread to serve the purpose for which it was created! Can your coocoo mentation and disconnect your brain from your digits, don't type or post! We don't need to reaffirm how inherently stup|d it beggars belief you are for the umpteenth time

What was the thread for? When have you ever made sense.Once only.

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MentalCase98:
Basilico , on these indictments- Listen to the take of a really smart man and a VERIFIABLE Harvard graduate who doesn’t hide behind a faceless monicker on Nairaland claiming what he’s not.

I’m sure that idiot also believes this man has “never been to America” because he doesn’t subscribe to his sick radical liberal world views. I'm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJLYiQ3oUQI

Ben Shapiro is a smart ass.
The indictments are a sham. The crazies want to prevent Trump from running by all means whether it's a 600 year jail sentence.

budaatum:
All these cases must be televised so nothing is hidden from you.

Yes, when getting a loan from the bank Trump org overvalued it's assets in order to get better lon rates.
That's a criminal offence.
Meanwhile the bank has accessors, were they sleeping on the job?
For lord's sake those were loans repayable. I did not hear the banks complain, it's the AG who saw a civil crime, wants Trump businesses closed in NYC and on top pay &250m.
Who was hurt by this?

Obrigardo:
Wow Jack Smith is made of steel.

He didn't indict criminal trump for his speech at the ellipse.

So he's laser focused on the conspiracy leading up to the speech and then bringing all the facts together to prove intent.

Criminal trump really wanted to overturn the election and I believe this strategy by Smith will prove it rather than him involving in first amendment rights debates and arguments.

That's why we have half a dozen co-conspirators with more to come.

It's gonna be chilling when the Jan 6th Indictment trial starts.

NY AG wants the $250 million case against Trump to proceed. This should make you extremely pleased

New York AG: Our Trump Org Case Is “Ready For Trial”

New York Attorney General Letitia James’ office says it is ready to proceed with a trial stemming from its $250 million lawsuit claiming former President Donald Trump, two of his children and his company engaged in widespread fraud. “The case is ready for trial,” wrote Kevin Wallace, senior enforcement counsel for the office, in a filing Monday.

The September 2022 lawsuit accused members of the Trump family and Trump Organization executives of orchestrating an extensive fraudulent scheme related to valuations of property and Trump’s personal financial statements. The lawsuit is seeking $250 million and sanctions that would effectively cease the company’s operations in New York.