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Ever wondered why Muslim women do not go to graves when a person is being burried. Well, wonder no more. It was because of cursing: Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) cursed women who visit graves,[bold] those who built mosques over them[/bold] and erected lamps (there). (Muslim: Book #20 , Hadith #3230 )

malvisguy212:
At the time when Surah 2:144 was revealed to change the Qiblah from Jerusalem to Mecca, the Ka’ba was still a pagan shrine housing 360 pagan idols. Why would Allah permit his Prophet to bow towards the Ka’ba while it was still polluted with 360 pagan idols? The command given in the Qur’an to change the Qiblah predates by years the conquest of Mecca. Those idols were destroyed only after the conquest of Mecca. Thus, during all those intervening years, between the time the Qiblah was changed towards the Ka’ba and the conquest of Mecca, whenever Muhammad faced the Ka’ba to pray, the Ka’ba remained a shrine of idol-worship.

malvisguy212:
I think the muslims though God is not transcendent, because if they do they will never face one direction to pray. The truth is that God is transcendent " what we called the first caused" no matter were you face and pray, God will answered you.

Empiree:
See, prayer(salat) and supererogatory prayer are solely for Allah (God) alone, period. There is nothing wrong praying anywhere except places where Shariah forbids like bathrooms(toilets) etc. At the graveyard however, if say for instance a mosque is built on a grave without them knowing and later they found out, it is reported that the mosque be razed. It's also haram to pray facing grave even though the grave is in direction of qibla. One should seek to pray some place else. There are times or some places with constraint of space, yes, one may find himself in such situation where you have to pray besides grave. There isnt nothing wrong praying next to (besides) it. What is wrong is facing it or praying on top of it. However, ignorant ones who know little to nothing, because of them it's highly recommended not to pray by the grave (standing, bowing, sitting on top of grave). These constitute act of shirk. Besides there are enough space to pray. It would be wrong to deliberately seek to pray around grave all the time for no reason. When i said prayer, i meant obligatory salat. But there is absolutely nothing wrong to visit grave and ask Allah for forgiveness of the person or pray for them NOT PRAY TO THEM. This is something one can do at home actually because prayer can be accepted anywhere. Generally visiting grave is encourage for us to sober, reflect etc.

You may want to read important info here http://islamqa.info/en/65944


At the time of the prophet, is what the hadith referred to. It means Jews and Christians at the time did worship the grave etc. Obviously, your form of worship is different today except some minority somewhere who still do. What do you have in common with Christians of old is you worship Jesus. Thats shirk.

Empiree:
There is difference between visiting graves and worshiping graves. It's not forbidden in Islam to visit the grave and pray for the dead. Worshiping the grave is 100% haram and that's what the prophet talked about.

Visiting graves is encouraged actually so that we reflect and remember that we too will be there some day. prophet Muhammad(SAW) encouraged to visit graves.

plappville:
Really? I haven't seen this update yet..wonderful....

plappville:
See how peace reign in Mecca. You have been trained to lie to defend a bitter truth about islam. But u cant deceived everybody. Hallah has different way of drinking blood. In Jerusalem he drink by bomb and missile. And in his holiest Mecca see below. ....


[size=14pt]On 11 September, 111 pilgrims were killed and 394 injured when a huge crane collapsed in Mecca. According to estimates, about 4,000 people have died in tragedies during Haj pilgrimage over last four decades. Take a look at major Haj tragedies over the years.

Timeline of Haj tragedies from 1975 to 2015

December 1975: About 200 pilgrims die in a gas cylinder explosion in Mina camping site.

31 July 1987: Over 400 people die in a clash between Saudi security forces and Iranian protesters.

9 July 1989: One pilgrim dies and 16 injured in a bomb blast. Saudia Arabia beheads 16 Kuwaiti Shia Muslims charged with the criminal act.

2 July 1990: The most severe Haj tragedy occurs on 2 July 1990, when 1,426 pilgrims die in a stampede inside the 500-yard-long Al-Ma'aisim tunnel. The overcrowded pedestrian tunnel links the holy city of Mecca and the camping city of Mina.

23 May 1994: About 270 people die in a stampede at the "Stoning of the Devil" ritual.

15 April 1997: At least 343 die in a fire caused by cooking gas explosion at the Mina tent colony. Of this about 100 were Indian nationals. About 1,500 pilgrims were also injured.

9 April 1998: On the third and last day of the Haj pilgrimage, a stampede at Jamarat Bridge kills at least 118 pilgrims. As many as 50 of them were Indians and the rest were from Malaysia and Indonesia. At least 180 were injured.

5 March 2001: At least 35 pilgrims including 23 women and 12 men are trampled to death in a stampede during the Stoning of Satan ritual. Of this, two were Indians.

11 February 2003: At least 14 people including six women die in a stampede during the Stoning of Satan ritual.

1 February 2004: At least 251 people are killed and 244 injured when pilgrims flock to Jamarat Bridge on Mina to participate in the Stoning of the Devil ritual in Mina. Most of the dead were Indonesians, Bangladeshis and Pakistanis.

6 January 2006: About 76 people are killed when a nine-story building in Mecca collapses after a fire breaks out.

12 January 2006: At least 346 pilgrims die and 289 injured when pilgrims throng at the Jamarat Bridge to perform the Stoning of Satan ritual.

11 September 2015: A deadly crane crash kills 111 pilgrims and injures 394 in Mecca.

24 September 2015: At least 717 Haj pilgrims are killed and nearly 800 injured in a stampede
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Annunaki:
The message is full of lies and you know it. According to the quoran mohamed is islam's best of mankind and muslims are encouraged to emulate him. Now tell me what isis and boko haram are doing that is not in emulation of what mohamed did or instructed. The pic below should freshen your memory.

Demmzy15:
Your god Jesus died as a criminals, his god a pedophile impregnated Mary at the age of 12. She married another pedophile who was 90years, so you basically have described and exposed the Pauline cult. Flat'head!

Annunaki:
Something in your mind will obviously be telling that islam is a fraud and mohamed is a fake prophet but you are scared of facing this truth thus you continue to dig deeper into your delusion. You are still young, it's not late for you to reject this terror inspiring religion of satan.

Demmzy15:
All I see are bunch of desperate mofos, some are frustrated to the extent that suicide might be their only option. Some of this liars are so so frustrated that they'll lie and ultimately convert to Islam(in deception) , join ISIS and then go for suicide bombing missions. People who see their actions then blame Islam! This is a very good example of the guy claiming he's going to annihilate all Muslims to protect his family.

This confused men have all forgotten that if all Muslims were indeed terrorists, none of them would be alive today. That's a fact, I can't defend anything because your hearts are blocked. We've created countless threads explaining different aspects of the religion, but all fell on deaf years. Apparently maybe you guys are dumb, so what I can say is to keep wailing. The truth of the matter is islam would continue to grow and there's nothing you brats can do.

Anas09 aka Anus09 I laugh at your hypocrisy, dullard!

yanabasee:
F00L.... Didn't you read the piece?

Oh I see... You're a sharia keeper! Bastard!

During a recent televised interview with Grand Ayatollah Ahmad al-Baghdadi, the leading Shia cleric of Iraq made clear why Islam and the rest of the world can never peacefully coexist.

The Grand Ayatollah

First he spent some time discussing “defensive jihad,” saying that all capable Muslims are obligated to fight for the “liberation” of “occupied” territory, for instance, Israel (see here for a list of European countries also deemed “occupied” in the eyes of Islam).

He then explained “offensive jihad,” Islam’s primary bloodline, which forged what we now call the “Muslim world” over the centuries.

According to the ayatollah, when they can—when circumstance permits it, when they are strong enough—Muslims are obligated to go on the offensive and conquer non-Muslims (a fact to be kept in mind as millions of Muslim “refugees” flood the West).

The Muslim cleric repeatedly yelled at the secularized host who kept interrupting him and protesting that Islam cannot teach such intolerance. At one point, he burst out: “I am the scholar of Islam [al-faqih]. You are just a journalist. Listen to me!”

Expounded Al-Baghdadi:

If they are people of the book [Jews and Christians] we demand of them the jizya—and if they refuse, then we fight them. That is if he is Christian. He has three choices: either convert to Islam, or, if he refuses and wishes to remain Christian, then pay the jizya [and live according to dhimmi rules].

But if they still refuse—then we fight them, and we abduct their women, and destroy their churches—this is Islam!… Come on, learn what Islam is, are you even a Muslim?!

As for the polytheists [Hindus, Buddhists, etc.] we allow them to choose between Islam and war! This is not the opinion of Ahmad al-Husseini al-Baghdadi, but the opinion of all five schools of jurisprudence [four Sunni and one Shia].

Towards the end of the interview, because the clean-shaven, suit-and-tie-wearing host kept protesting that this cannot be Islam, the ayatollah burst out, pointing at him with contempt and saying, “Who are you? You’re going to tell me what to believe? This is the word of Allah!”

Indeed. Not only is it the word of Islam’s deity, but it is the fundamental, insurmountable obstacle for peace between Muslims and non-Muslims. Al-Baghdadi—and the countless other Muslim clerics, Sunni and Shia, that hold these views—are not “radicals.” For offensive jihad is no less codified than, say, Islam’s Five Pillars, which no Muslim rejects.

The Encyclopaedia of Islam’s entry for “jihad” states that the “spread of Islam by arms is a religious duty upon Muslims in general … Jihad must continue to be done until the whole world is under the rule of Islam … Islam must completely be made over before the doctrine of jihad can be eliminated.”

Islam has yet to “completely be made over.”

Renowned Muslim historian and philosopher Ibn Khaldun (d. 1406) explained jihad as follows:

In the Muslim community, jihad is a religious duty because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and the obligation to convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force. The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the jihad was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense. But Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.

Here it’s worth noting that even the most offensive jihad is seen as an “altruistic” endeavor, not unlike the “white man’s burden” of the 19th century. After all, the ancient argument that “we must reform your ways, with our ways, for your own good” has been one of the most cited justifications for offensive jihad since the 7th century.

Indeed, soon after the death of Islam’s prophet Muhammad (634), when his jihadis burst out of the Arabian peninsula, a soon-to-be conquered Persian commander asked the invading Muslims what they wanted. They reportedly replied as follows:

Allah has sent us and brought us here so that we may free those who desire from servitude to earthly rulers and make them servants of Allah, that we may change their poverty into wealth and free them from the tyranny and chaos of [false] religions and bring them to the justice of Islam. He has sent us to bring his religion to all his creatures and call them to Islam. Whoever accepts it from us will be safe, and we shall leave him alone; but whoever refuses, we shall fight until we fulfill the promise of Allah.

Fourteen hundred years later, in March 2009, Saudi legal expert Basem Alem publicly echoed this view:

As a member of the true religion [Islam], I have a greater right to invade [others] in order to impose a certain way of life [according to Sharia], which history has proven to be the best and most just of all civilizations. This is the true meaning of offensive jihad. When we wage jihad, it is not in order to convert people to Islam, but in order to liberate them from the dark slavery in which they live.

Even al-Qaeda partially justified its jihad against America for being “a nation that exploits women like consumer products”; for not rejecting the “immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling, and usury.”

If the “white man’s burden” was/is to “civilize” Muslims, by bringing them “democracy,” “human rights,” and “secularism,” the “Muslim man’s burden”—captured by Allah’s word to Muslims, “Jihad is ordained for you, though you dislike it” (Koran 2:216)—has long been to “civilize” Westerners by bringing them under the umbrella of Sharia.

This positive interpretation of jihad ensures that, no matter how violent and ostensibly unjust a jihad is, it will always be vindicated in Muslim eyes: the ugly means will be justified by the “altruistic” ends.

Finally, as Grand Ayatollah Ahmad al-Baghdadi pointed out, the need for Muslims to wage offensive jihad “is not the opinion of Ahmad al-Husseini al-Baghdadi… This is the word of Allah!”

Nor is it the “opinion” of ISIS Caliph Abu Bakr, al-Qaeda leader Ayman Zawahiri, Boko Haram leader Abubakar Shekau, or any of the other countless past and present jihadis. No, jihad to conquer and bring Sharia to non-Muslims is the command of Allah.

IYANGBALI:
Na bros Moh now

Demmzy15:
So what are you saying?!

Demmzy15:
So what are you saying?!

dolphinheart:
History supports the muslims when it says islam is a religion of peace.
Mecca was not peaceful when they were persecuting prophet mo and his followers. The clash was based on which god(s) should be worshiped in mecca,(remember , these worship also determines the political landscape). Years later, the god of islam won mecca and their was peace.
So what has it taught us.
Islam is peaceful as long as they have their way, for:
1. The raids on the caravans stopped once they took control of mecca.
2. The war of the gods of mecca stopped and their was peace once they pursued the other gods out of mecca.
3. There will be no war but peace if you totally submit to their demands.

So islam is peace, as long as you do things their way!
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If you want to test these assertations and see if peace in islam is not based on these 3 above. Pls take another religious book into mecca and start teaching ur religion there.

If you are lucky , your case will be treated the way the meccans treated prophet mo. But if you are unlucky!!

basilico:
A Saudi court has sentenced a man to death for
renouncing his Muslim faith and other blasphemy
charges, according to a Saudi Gazette report cited by
Reuters Tuesday. The offender had posted a video online
showing himself defacing the Quran and hitting it with a
shoe, a grave insult and a crime in the kingdom, which
follows a strict interpretation of Islam.
The man, who is in his 20s, had posted the video on the
social networking site Keek, according to the Saudi
Gazette , which quoted an anonymous courtroom source
saying the death sentence was issued after the unnamed
man’s apostasy “was proven.” Last year an online
campaign by self-described Saudi atheists saw a number
of social media users posting images of themselves with
ripped-up copies of the Quran while declaring pride in
their atheism. The campaign followed the kingdom’s
criminalization of atheism in March 2014, with the
hashtag #CampaigntoTearTheQuraninSaudiArabia being
tweeted more than 7,800 times in the span of a week,
Vocativ reported .
Desecration of the Quran may be criminalized in Saudi
Arabia but it is also an outrage to Muslims everywhere,
with worldwide protests being sparked by previous
offenses against the Islamic holy book, including after
American pastor Terry Jones announced in 2010 that he
would burn 200 copies. Under Saudi Arabia’s strict
Wahhabi system of Islamic Shariah law, charges like
apostasy carry the death penalty, which is often carried
out by public beheading, Reuters said.
Other religious offenses like blasphemy and criticism of
clerics also can incur lengthy prison sentences and
corporal punishment. The kingdom has been criticized
for its capital punishment policies, with the United
Nations condemning its practice of public beheading as
being “prohibited under international law.” Human rights
groups have also criticized the Saudi justice system,
which they accuse of imposing the death penalty under
problematic circumstances, including after defendants
have confessed under torture or been denied access to
counsel

basilico:
A Saudi court has sentenced a man to death for
renouncing his Muslim faith and other blasphemy
charges, according to a Saudi Gazette report cited by
Reuters Tuesday. The offender had posted a video online
showing himself defacing the Quran and hitting it with a
shoe, a grave insult and a crime in the kingdom, which
follows a strict interpretation of Islam.
The man, who is in his 20s, had posted the video on the
social networking site Keek, according to the Saudi
Gazette , which quoted an anonymous courtroom source
saying the death sentence was issued after the unnamed
man’s apostasy “was proven.” Last year an online
campaign by self-described Saudi atheists saw a number
of social media users posting images of themselves with
ripped-up copies of the Quran while declaring pride in
their atheism. The campaign followed the kingdom’s
criminalization of atheism in March 2014, with the
hashtag #CampaigntoTearTheQuraninSaudiArabia being
tweeted more than 7,800 times in the span of a week,
Vocativ reported .
Desecration of the Quran may be criminalized in Saudi
Arabia but it is also an outrage to Muslims everywhere,
with worldwide protests being sparked by previous
offenses against the Islamic holy book, including after
American pastor Terry Jones announced in 2010 that he
would burn 200 copies. Under Saudi Arabia’s strict
Wahhabi system of Islamic Shariah law, charges like
apostasy carry the death penalty, which is often carried
out by public beheading, Reuters said.
Other religious offenses like blasphemy and criticism of
clerics also can incur lengthy prison sentences and
corporal punishment. The kingdom has been criticized
for its capital punishment policies, with the United
Nations condemning its practice of public beheading as
being “prohibited under international law.” Human rights
groups have also criticized the Saudi justice system,
which they accuse of imposing the death penalty under
problematic circumstances, including after defendants
have confessed under torture or been denied access to
counsel

henribj:
sauce?