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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:39am On Jun 25
Colombia held an election , 26 million notes, results out within 2 hours, All ballots handcounted.

Immediate Local Counts: On election night, polling station jury members immediately hand-counted physical paper ballots right after the polls closed.
The E-14 Forms: The results of these hand-counts were written down by hand on official tally sheets called Form E-14. These forms were digitally scanned and uploaded online for public auditing, allowing over 26 million votes to be quickly tabulated.

2. Targeted Recounts—Not a Total RecountChallenged Stations: Following a razor-thin margin of less than 1% between De la Espriella and leftist candidate Iván Cepeda, Cepeda’s campaign challenged the results. They requested a review of more than 30,000 specific voting stations, rather than a nationwide hand-recount of every single ballot.
Denied Requests: The National Electoral Council denied requests to recount votes cast by Colombians living abroad.
Official Resolution: Electoral authorities completed the specific, legally required recount processes within days of the election. Cepeda subsequently conceded the race on June 24, 2026, after the final checks were finalized.


California election more than 2 weeks ago . They are still counting bites today , results expected sometime in July.
American judges are working overtime to block executive orders targeting the elections. More in that next.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:40am On Jun 25
DeepSight:
QAnon basilico on the beat.
Doing your best to tar abd feather ne .
Dominion had a hand in the steal.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:22pm On Jun 24
Dominion Rigging System Inc shook Fox news for $750 million.
I always thought it was a sham case , Fox which had called Arizona for Joe Biden before voting had ended was part of the 2020 steal.

Mike Lindell case was one where sone of you were hoping his company would be bankrupted.




Now you can go pound sand.

Why would they not continue with the lawsuit. Is it because some information cane to light about their security of their machines.
Time will tell.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:39pm On Jun 24
Thought it was the same case ,this is a different judge.

https://washingtonstand.com/article/texas-judge-who-refused-to-officiate-samesex-weddings-wins-640k-legal-victory

The court’s ruling, issued June 16, not only awarded Hensley the maximum compensatory damages allowed under the Texas Religious Freedom Restoration Act but also barred the commission from “investigating, sanctioning, or disciplining” Hensley for refusing to officiate same-sex weddings because of her religious beliefs, regardless of whether she continues to perform marriages for opposite-sex couples.





PDPGuy:
I’m more concerned about how Kim Davis will raise $360,000 to pay the attorneys’ fees of the original plaintiffs 🙆🏽‍♂️
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:23pm On Jun 24
Rep. Espaillat concedes. Mamdani-backed socialists have officially gone 3/3 and won all of their respective Democratic primaries for U.S. House in New York tonight. Their positions are some of the most extreme & far left Dems have seen:

Darializa Avila Chevalier (NY-13): Abolish prisons, abolish ICE, abolish borders, defund the police, and “all deportations are wrong”, including for violent criminals. She has called the U.S. an “effing disgrace”, and said in a prior social media post “I forgot to get napkins so I just wiped my hand on the American flag behind me.”

Claire Valdez (NY-7): Grant citizenship and voting rights to illegal aliens, use taxpayer funds for all transgender treatments, & eliminate private health insurance.

Brad Lander (NY-10): Abolish ICE, forgive all student loans (almost $2 trillion worth), expand the Supreme Court.

Mamdani gets a clean sweep, a bad night for Hakeem Jeffries, and big questions for where the Democratic Party is heading.


Socialists win big in a New York.



The party of JFK is gone


basilico:
New York house republican Dan Goldman loses primary to a former New York City Comptroller Brad Lander.
Brad Lander is backed ny Mamdani.
Goldman is backed by Governor Hochul.


Goldman previously served as lead majority counsel in the first impeachment against President Trump in 2019.He also served as lead counsel to the impeachment managers in President Trump’s impeachment trial .
Goldman backed by a pro Israeli lobby lost to pro Palestinian community in Brooklyn.
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by basilico: 2:17pm On Jun 24
LordReed:
Bro can you produce the evidence that Iran was close to developing a nuclear weapon?
How is a weapon produced in the first case.
Get a bucket, throw in uranium abd then drop it from a place?
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump Vs Obama: Which President's Iran Deal Was Better? by basilico: 1:29pm On Jun 24
Iran was flouting the JPCOA deal before the ink was dry.

1.
Exceeding heavy water stockpile caps (First Breach): In February 2016, Iran surpassed the JCPOA's strict 130-metric-ton limit on heavy water by roughly 900 kilograms.
2.
Exceeding heavy water stockpile caps (Second Breach): In November 2016, the IAEA found Iran in breach again, exceeding the heavy water cap by 100 kilograms. This forced Iran to quickly ship the excess out to Oman to regain technical compliance.
3.
Testing nuclear-capable ballistic missiles: In March and throughout 2016, Iran conducted multiple ballistic missile tests. This flouted the spirit of the deal and was deemed "inconsistent" with UN Security Council Resolution 2231, which endorsed the JCPOA and called on Iran to halt missile work.
5.
Advanced centrifuge R&grin disputes: Iran and Western powers clashed over interpretations of the deal regarding how many advanced centrifuges (like the IR-6 and IR-cool Iran was permitted to operate and test for research and development purposes.Illicit procurement of missile technology: Reports from German intelligence agencies in 2015 and 2016 noted that Iran continued covert, illicit attempts to procure missile technology outside of the officially mandated JCPOA procurement channels.
6.
Secret low-enriched uranium (LEU) exemptions: Prior to Implementation Day in early 2016, Iran held quantities of 3.5% low-enriched uranium hexafluoride that would have immediately breached the 300 kg cap. The Joint Commission quietly exempted this un-bonded material, which critics flagged as Iran exploiting loopholes.
7.
Exploiting loopholes on "heavy water export" language: Iran initially challenged the interpretation of the 130-ton heavy water cap. They argued that if no international buyers were available to purchase their excess product, they were permitted to keep it stored inside the country.


On centrifuges,Iran was positioning to refine further than the IAEA limits .
There is absolutely no reason to have 60% highly enriched Uranium apart from building a weapon or threatening other states that we can quickly build one.


maasoap:
I don't think you known what you're saying by that statement if you are referring to the Trump's first term in office before he cancelled that agreement.
IAEA told Trump that Iran was complying with JPCOA. US intelligent services told Trump that Iran was complying. But Trump in his infinite wisdom and intelligence said no that agreement was in favour of Iran and he ripped it apart during his first term in office.
But if you are now saying referring to his second term in office, what kind of compliance did you expect again from Iran?
And before he started the bombing campaigns alongside Israel, his own US intelligent services told him that Iran wasn't weaponising their Uranium, IAEA said the same thing. But just the way he didn't listen to anyone during the first tenure, he refused to listen to anyone again during the second tenure until he was humbled
Lordreed
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:19pm On Jun 24
Ijebosb. Im not yet done with your epoxy.



Evans Miller that you dismissed has a report of the pool too.
EXCLUSIVE: Photos prove Pres. Trump report that vandals destroyed Lincoln Reflecting Pool construction by cutting a huge piece out of the sides.

He said the damage showed long, deep cuts consistent with a box knife or knife-like cutting tool.

Construction crews completed work at the Reflecting Pool before discovering extensive damage. A 170-foot gash was found on the south side and a 70-foot gash on the north side. Physical evidence indicated foam and caulking had been cut out. Fence connectors were recovered in the basin. Atlantic Industrial Coating and contractor Eddie Wood were involved on site as repairs were prepared.

U.S. Park Police are investigating. Photos and video evidence have been turned over to investigators.


https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1JiCyPtYYn/

Trump said about 250 meters was slit by a knife ,Emily Miller estimates 240 meter well within the margin.

Suddenly all media is on Trump statement, mocking him for the comments.

When liberal media unites to attack ,there must be a narrative they are spinning.





ijebosb:
This is the guy who says he could pass a bar.
He can't even read through information and distinguish fact from made up BS which is found in Facebook under "trust me bro".

Compare the bottom of the Gemini fact check Basilio posted (pictured below) to the video of the incident.
/video/1
I think these right wing propagandists forget there is actual video of the incident that people can see.
The absurdity of Republican propaganda: trust not what you say buy what I see.

This is also a problem with AI. It's only as good as the info it scrapes and only as useful as people willing to check the sources it gets its info from.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:34am On Jun 24
Long article by @datarepublican on how USAID

DataRepublican (small r)
@DataRepublican

How USAID Built Color Revolution Infrastructure With NGOs


Everyone is arguing about whether USAID was wasteful. Nobody is explaining what it was actually for.
Yesterday the Daily Caller ran a piece noting that since Trump gutted USAID, right-wing candidates have swept Bolivia, Chile, Honduras, Costa Rica, Peru, Ecuador, and Colombia. The left hasn't won a single Latin American presidential election since the funding stopped. Meanwhile, Ro Khanna went on a podcast and said Elon Musk "possibly sentenced to death" 4.5 million children by dismantling USAID. Musk threatened to sue him.

The right points to USAID grants for transgender operas in Colombia and DEI workshops in Serbia and asks why American taxpayers were funding them. The left points to children who depended on foreign aid claims millions of deaths.
But both miss the purpose of true USAID.

USAID was one of Washington's primary instruments for regime change abroad. Beneath the humanitarian programs, the cultural initiatives, and the development projects sat a much larger objective: managing regime change and color revolutions across the globe.
Which raises an obvious question:
What does a transgender opera in Colombia have to do with regime change?
Quite a lot, as it turns out.

Read on.
The Five Capabilities
1. Media.
Independent outlets. Journalism training, equipment, institutional funding so a newsroom can survive without depending on the local government or corporations for revenue. The function is to ensure that there is an “independent” outlet ready to broadcast Western narratives. You need a megaphone before you propagate a message.

2. Legal infrastructure. Lawyers, legal aid clinics, rule-of-law programs, judicial reform advocacy. The function is to build a class of professionals who know how to challenge a government through its own legal system — and who have the institutional backing to survive doing it. And, yes, build a judiciary that shares the values of liberal Western democracy.

3. Election monitoring.
Observer training, voter roll modernization, parallel vote tabulation (PVT). PVT is the critical technology: an “independent” count run alongside the official one. Without PVT data, people claiming a stolen election are sore losers. With Western-backed election monitoring, they're defenders of liberal democracy.

4. Activist training. Civic engagement workshops, youth leadership programs, community organizing. The grant descriptions say "civic engagement" and "leadership development." The skills being transferred:
How to organize a protest
How to sustain a protest
How to train others to do the same
How to communicate with media
“Nonviolent” discipline under pressure and training.
The result is a trained cadre of people who know how to convert public anger into sustained political pressure across multiple election cycles.

5. Governance data. Procurement monitoring, FOIA programs, budget transparency initiatives, anti-corruption databases. These organizations generate the raw material that the media reports on, the lawyers cite in court, and the election monitors reference in their findings. Without this layer, the other four operate on anecdote. With it, they operate on evidence.

None of these looks like regime change in isolation. A journalism training program is a journalism training program. The system becomes visible only when you fund all five in the same country for a decade and the people running them all know each other because you trained them at the same conferences, connected them through the same fellowship programs, and funded them through the same grant pipelines.

What the completed system looks like
Georgia
Georgia is the country where the full pipeline played out in public, so Georgia is where you can trace it.
Starting in the mid-1990s, American and European money built all five capabilities inside Georgian civil society. USAID and the Eurasia Foundation funded Rustavi 2, an independent broadcaster that became the opposition's primary media outlet by 2003. The Liberty Institute, founded in 1996, drafted Georgia's freedom of speech legislation and ran anti-corruption campaigns. ISFED, founded in 1995 with USAID and NED money, trained 3,000 election observers and ran parallel vote tabulation across ten Georgian elections. NED spent $3 million on Otpor in Serbia, whose trainers then came to Georgia — funded by Open Society, facilitated by Liberty Institute — and trained a student group called Kmara. Same playbook, same clenched-fist logo, different country. And organizations like IDFI monitored government procurement, generating the data everybody else used.
Open Society's own Georgia staff described the scale in a video: "We have been out there, helping every startup in Georgia, almost every organization that came to us with new ideas... There were 16,000 projects supported by the foundation."
Read that again. Sixteen thousand projects in a country of 3.7 million people.
In November 2003, all five fired at once. ISFED's parallel vote count proved the parliamentary election was fraudulent. Rustavi 2 broadcast the evidence. Kmara filled the streets. Liberty Institute provided the organizational backbone. Three weeks later, President Shevardnadze resigned in the Rose Revolution.
The activation was emergent. Every node in the network activated and performed its designed function simultaneously.
After the revolution, Liberty Institute members entered the Georgian government: Bokeria to the National Security Council, Subari as Public Defender, Targamadze to the Defense and Security Committee, Vardzelashvili as Deputy Justice Minister, Zhvania to Foreign Intelligence, and Minashvili as Foreign Affairs Committee Chair. The organizations didn't just support a transition. They staffed it.
USA spending.gov shows over a billion in USAID awards to Georgia from 2008 to 2025. The contract descriptions spell it out: CEPPS received $26 million for "Georgia Elections and Political Processes Activity." East-West Management Institute got $21 million for "build and innovate upon PAST USAID investments in the rule of law." That one is the pipeline describing itself — build on what we already built.

Twenty years later, the Georgian government proposed a law requiring NGOs to disclose their foreign funding. The same network activated: foreign-funded NGOs sustained protests across multiple waves, hundreds of thousands in the streets. Former U.S. Ambassador Ian Kelly explained the dependency on camera: "The civil society is the absolute beating heart of Georgian democracy... it relies quite a bit on EU and U.S. funding."
The Georgian government's response was blunt: foreign-funded NGOs organized the 2003 color revolution, and the same infrastructure activated again when the government tried to make them disclose who was paying.
If this is starting to sound familiar, good. It should.

Now Look at the
United States

The same five capabilities exist domestically. The language softens — "election observation" becomes "election protection," "civil society training" becomes "civic engagement," "independent media" becomes "local civic journalism" — but the functional categories are identical. The funding source shifts from USAID to private foundations. The scale is larger.

1. Media.
The Knight Foundation gave $25 million to the American Journalism Project, which it described as a "first-of-its-kind venture philanthropy organization focused on growing and sustaining independent, nonpartisan, local civic news." AJP has distributed millions in smaller grants. MacArthur gave Howard University $5 million for a "Center for Journalism and Democracy."

2. Legal infrastructure.
The Brennan Center for Justice — mission statement: "nonpartisan law and policy institute that seeks to improve the American systems of democracy and justice."
The Hopewell Fund, an Arabella Advisors fiscal sponsor, hosts Democracy Docket — Marc Elias's election litigation operation — as one of its many fiscally sponsored projects.
The domestic legal infrastructure shapes the legal environment from the outside through litigation, judicial training, and model legislation that state legislatures adopt.

3. Election monitoring.
The Voter Registration Project runs $40+ million per year on private donations. Its grantee, State Voices, coordinates over 700 organizations in 24 states, providing "cutting-edge organizing technology and experimentation access."
The Foundation to Promote Open Society gave the Hopewell Fund $10 million in 2023 for a "Nonpartisan Free Election Fund."
The Election Trust Initiative launched with $25 million from Hewlett, Peterson, and Klarman foundations — and files no independent public returns because its finances are buried inside Pew's 990.
Domestically, 700 coordinated organizations across 24 states provide poll monitoring, voter verification, and legal rapid response.

4. Activist training.
The Alliance for Youth Organizing runs programs on over 200 college campuses. Its 990 describes "local, integrated civic engagement programs that help train and develop new leaders, register and mobilize young voters, and educate young people about key issues in their communities. Our program engages with young people year-round and over multiple cycles, building habits that translate into lifelong civic engagement."
Open Society Action Fund spends tens of millions on domestic civic engagement grants. The capability is identical as Georgia: a trained cadre who know how to organize, mobilize, and sustain political pressure across multiple election cycles.

5. Governance data.
Open Society Action Fund's 2023 IRS 990 lists its domestic program areas: "DEMOCRACY DEFENSE, VOTING RIGHTS, ELECTION INTEGRITY, CENSUS, REDISTRICTING, ECONOMIC SECURITY... COMBATTING MIS- AND DISINFORMATION, TECHNOLOGY AND CIVIL RIGHTS... GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY."
Domestic program expense: $173 million.
Those are NED's foreign democracy categories — democracy defense, election integrity, government accountability and transparency, combatting disinformation — applied domestically, word for word.

The Recognition
Seven right-wing candidates won in Latin America after the funding stopped. The infrastructure that had been cultivated for decades began to weaken because its primary source of capital disappeared. The newspapers survived only if they could find new donors. The NGOs shrank.
That is what people misunderstand when they argue about whether USAID funded transgender operas, journalism workshops, anti-corruption databases, youth leadership programs, or election observers.
Those were never the point.
The point was the network.
A grant to a newspaper is not a newspaper. A grant to an activist group is not an activist group. A grant to an election-monitoring organization is not an election-monitoring organization. Fund enough of them for long enough, connect them to one another, train their leaders together, give them shared sources of funding, shared language, shared objectives, and eventually they become a political operating system.
At that stage, individual grants no longer matter. The system reproduces itself.

Georgia shows what the completed architecture looks like. The organizations did not merely criticize the government. They generated information, trained activists, shaped public opinion, challenged institutions, mobilized voters, and ultimately supplied personnel for the government that followed.
The architecture was the product.
And once you recognize the architecture, you start seeing it everywhere.
Even in the United States.
Especially in the United States.
That is why we see a major nationwide protest every month as long as President Trump is in office.
Want to publish your own Article?

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:13am On Jun 24
Act 1.
DC court Judge Amy Berman Jackson appointed by Obama has ruled that SNAP food benefits can't be stopped from buying junk foods and soda. Recipients must buy candy and ice cream too.

Act 2

Biden appointed judge has blocked ICE from making arrests within immigration court areas .Since SCOTUS ruled that district judges can't issue national injunction unless it affects a certain class,the judge decided that all immigrant classes in every state cannot be arrested when they show up at immigration courts. Basically. Another Carolina judgea has tied up ICE agents nationally.


These activist judges are the fruits of Obama. After Hillary Clinton lost judges he appointed led the onslaught in blocking Trump in everything they can. Biden judges follow the same script. One big happy angry democrat family.

Was never that way before.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:37am On Jun 24
You are a darling of the left if you support them. Switch to Trump or conservatives,all of a sudden the liberals want you silenced if not 6 feet under.
I can give you many examples.
Elon Musk,Brandon Straka, Tulsi Gabbard, Robert Kennedy Jr,
Liberals can't handle dissent,they resort to insults at every turn to stop a conversation not going their way.





cococandy:
How funny we are “after him” yet he seems to be the one that somehow manages to do stuff that affects the regular people negatively to his own benefit.

You’re just a brown noser. Pick up what little self esteem you have and move on along pls.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:40am On Jun 24
cococandy:
Who’s after him? He’s out here using his financial power to take advantage of people who do not possess the same powers and somehow you guys manage to make him the victim.

You guys are delusional.
Liberals including you. They called him a Nazi for saluting from the bottom of his heart .
They hate him the most because he bought off Twitter and made it a free speech platform for all .

Funny rich democrats are heavily invested in his company stocks . Fortunately Elon controls the largest voting block in all his companies.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:30am On Jun 24
New York house republican Dan Goldman loses primary to a corner New York City Comptroller Brad Lander.
Brad Lander is backed ny Mamdani.
Goldman is backed by Governor Hochul.


Goldman previously served as lead majority counsel in the first impeachment against President Trump in 2019.He also served as lead counsel to the impeachment managers in President Trump’s impeachment trial .
Goldman backed by a pro Israeli lobby lost to pro Palestinian community in Brooklyn.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:17am On Jun 24
Judicial sabotage. A case like this ends up at the supreme court.
With the liberal three Supreme Court judges agreeing .
Example.
A citizen who goes to Syria to fight for ISIS should have his citizenship revoked.

Pssh!!!
Democrats need that name in their voter rolls.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:11am On Jun 24
I like this. Antifa terrorist gets 100 year sentence.

https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/ice-detention-attack-defendants-sentencing-6-23-2026/

Antifa thugs jave been free to commit crimes. This should serve as a warning. Because they are sponsored by democrats doesn't mean they escape justice
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:08am On Jun 24
Pathetic liberals




I read somewhere else Trump saying that I the six arrested vandalizing the pool poured chemicals into the pool and there is video....
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 2:04am On Jun 24
They are after Elon . Just like they went after Trump they are setting the stage.
If he can give up X to Democrats he will have peace. The need to control information public accesses needs to be under democrats not Elon.

cococandy:
You shouldn’t have quoted me to defend them then.

I don’t understand the need you guys have to jump on every post here and respond in opposition. Is it the need to be contrarian? I don’t get it.

Anyway have a good day!
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:41am On Jun 24
cococandy:
The facts you need to know are that the rules were changed overnight to accommodate their company for mass public investment (the kind you get with IPOs) when they otherwise were not yet qualified for it. Talk about DEI for the billionaires.

If you’re waiting to hear it from Trump or Elon before you believe, ask yourself why that is. And ask yourself why any of them would be inclined to tell the truth about it.

I wouldn’t care if all investors were willing informed consensual investors. Afterall most of it is some sort of gambling anyway. You win some. You lose some. And that’s a risk people willingly take when they invest.

For employer managed funds, people invest passively because they’re assured their money is being invested for them in time-tested funds and companies that have followed all the financial rules to the T. But that not the case here and that’s why there’s controversy.

But you can’t sincerely say that you don’t see the issue with backyard dealing of that nature.
I simply said I don't understand enough to make an informed decision.i have edited my previous post m
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:34am On Jun 24
To be honest I don't understand exactly these details. I'd like to compare this IPO to say Aramco or others .
Anything the media pushes ,I just cannot trust a single thing from them especially when they have targeted Elon Musk right now.
I have not taken a firm position on the SpaceX IPO apart from knowing it's not the current revenue streams that drives investors to buy Elon Musk controlled stocks . It's the record he has built as achieving the seemingly impossible.

(I'll give you an example. Before Musk bought Twitter around 50 companies spent huge monies to advertise. They paused their adverts saying they didn't want their ads placed next to untrustworthy ones. None left X ,all they did was cut the amount they were paying to maintain 7000 plus Twitter employees. In return Twitter censored conservatives on their behalf)
You don't have to believe the above but the left has been targeting him once he took control of their megaphone
cococandy:
Changing the rules specifically to accommodate spaceX and then buying up their stocks with people’s 401k and pension funds when they had no idea this was happening is unethical.

It’s like saying “let’s follow the law” but when someone powerful is about to do something against the law, you chance the law two weeks prior to the date they informed you they’ll break the law so that they officially “didn’t break the law anymore”.

I know you people are Elon fan boys. But even you can see how dirty this is. And when people lose their funds you’ll say nothing illegal happened. Therefore they can’t complain.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:32am On Jun 24
To o be honest I don't understand exactly these details. I'd like to compare this IPO to say Aramco or others .
Anything the media pushes ,I just cannot trust a single thing from them especially when they have targeted Elon Musk right now.
I have not taken a firm position on the SpaceX IPO apart from knowing it's not the current revenue streams that drives investors I to buying Elon Musk controlled stocks


cococandy:
Changing the rules specifically to accommodate spaceX and then buying up their stocks with people’s 401k and pension funds when they had no idea this was happening is unethical.

It’s like saying “let’s follow the law” but when someone powerful is about to do something against the law, you chance the law two weeks prior to the date they informed you they’ll break the law so that they officially “didn’t break the law anymore”.

I know you people are Elon fan boys. But even you can see how dirty this is. And when people lose their funds you’ll say nothing illegal happened. Therefore they can’t complain.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:25am On Jun 24
The left going for Elon Musk , USAID is the elephant in the room

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:58am On Jun 24
cococandy:
I’m not here to argue if you believe in him or not.

Investment should be optional especially if they’re going to do it in the backyard manner that they just did.

That’s my grouse.
You are upset pension companies are buying into Elon Musk companies.
If there's evidence of fund managers being coerced , that should be dealt with under the law. Just my thoughts
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:46am On Jun 24
So it's still trading at the IPO offer price .
Investors bought into SpaceX shares many hoping for a quick buck ,many in for the long haul. I do believe there is a term like market correction.
Long term investors believe in Musk pulling off his crazy ambitions .
Starlink. I have ISP experience ,I wondered how it would be any threat at all to ground based fiber. Today governments, airlines and shipping companies are dying to get onboard .Starlink generates huge business for SpaceX which has bigger dreams. Don't think you are aware that three Falcon 9 rockets have sent payloads into space more than 30 times. This was unimaginable just more than 19 years ago

Tesla. It's no longer a car manufacturer ,it's more of a software engineering one. It's robot Optimus set to debut in Mars .

Investors bank their money on Elon. To pull off the unthinkable.
Those in for short term will weed themselves out.


cococandy:
SpaceX has wiped out 900+ billion in market value in just two weeks of their IPO. Now they’re already having to take out debt through a 20 billion round of bond sales.

If only someone had said something…. Oh wait 🤦🏽‍♀️.

This is just the beginning though.
More scams to come. No one can do anything because anyone that can hold them accountable has been gotten rid of.

According to Elon fan boys,
Let him cook. Or something like that.

If you don’t agree to lose your 401k/pension to this scam, you’re just jealous.
to
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Dr Fauci l was using USAID to fund Wuhan lab research .
Dr Peter Daszak. I keep mentioning that name runs Ecohealth Alliance.

Credit to Obama.In 2014 he blocked federal funding of gain of function in America. Fauci gave Ecohealth money to continue the same in China.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:07pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
How is that a point I have ever raised or disputed?
Why are you scattered and all over the place?

You are not tempered, please stop using that thing.
You stated as a matter of fact that Congress is independent.
I showed you the document that supposedly independent Congress used to impeach Trump.
Congress under Pelosi was rotten to the core.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:03pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
Can you even connect the dots from point to point for Christ's sake ? ? ? ? ?
What dots. You mentioned Congress. I gave you evidence Congress under democrats was hopelessly corrupt.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:58pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
You cant be this daft.
Explain why I'm daft.
That was a flawed process that Congress used to impeach trump.
You wanted evidence , I gave you . You result to insults.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:55pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
What else do we expect from a QAnon flat-earther
Redhettings . Since when did NYT i echo qanon.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:49pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
Congress is independent.
Take a moment to read this whistleblower investigation. Eric Ciaramela is the main name redacted.

Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:47pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
They voted him once.
Correction. Trump won 3 times.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:45pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
Nothing to do with media.

You are the one who is determined to canonize an obvious and self admitted sexual deviant and paedophile.
Epstein didn't have anything about Trump to offer to Maureen Comey .
Let that sink in. Take a break from here and have a meeting with yourself.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:25pm On Jun 23
DeepSight:
Stop wasting your energy trying to claim that Trump is not a rapist and paedophile. He evidently is.

Re: Gaddafi, that was bad but Trump is also a murderer.
You are just intransigent.. that's NYT reporting what Epstein wrote.
Who would have been the lead prosecutor had he not died? Maureen Comey, James Comey daughter. She requested millions of documents SDNY had on Epstein to be sealed , the documents that Trump had unsealed . She was fired and has been fighting back. No friend of Trump.
At the same time SDNY was quick enough to jail Build the Wall founder , a Trump supporter.

Media and democrats have done a serious number on you and your soul.
When it comes to Trump extrapolating your thinking screeches to a halt.

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