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The point I was making is that South Africans have a higher per Capita income than the rest of Africa. A black owned business should thrive better than in other African countries.
South Africans need incentives to grow their own business and stop waiting for " reparations'.
Leadership failure always puts the blame on their colonizers.

tctrills:
Look, anyone who says 30 years is enough to make black South Africa Great and powerful after so many years of bondage may not be honest.
But we are only asking if black South Africa is on the right path.
We are asking about the choices they have made as a people these 30 years of freedom.
30 years is long enough to look back and ask questions.

How come youth unemployment has doubled instead of reduced? How come crime is exploding? How come the economy under the control of blacks is failing everyone?

30 years may not be enough to build the greatest nation on earth but what foundation are they building so far?

DeepSight:
Be specific, have you signed the treaty.

I'll abide. Don't take this place too seriously though.

No worries.

DeepSight:
Now Know ye all men that this TREATY OF SOBER PEACE AND REASON is herewith signed this 15th day of May 2026 Anno Domini.
Wherefore it is agreed as follows.

1. A serious, balanced sober and rational attempt shall be made to convey points of view on general issues under discussion on this thread.

2. Extremist positions shall be avoided

3. Racist posts, race baiting, race triggering insults, shall be avoided

4. A moratorium on adopted entrenched perceptions of one another being expressed in order to aid focus and reasoning.

5. A commitment to honestly answer simple questions rather than deflect or ignore them.

6. Mutual respect and humility.

7. Discussants shall strive to be studious, thoughtful and scholarly in their output.

This Treaty to remain in force for one week only and if not renewed maximum hostilities of the most childish, irrational and belligerent nature shall at once resume ( . . . . )

Who else is amenable to joining this treaty?

Once the left gets into power ...

Kamala just admitted to this out loud https://t.co/sXuEp2faLF pic.twitter.com/akIl3RDUGQ

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) May 15, 2026

She hates conservatives.

benalvino3:
But I said it. Everyone hate her but she is their leader.

You hate her more than those white people you claimed are racists

I'm.game.
I have some long held positions that I will not change unless I'm really convinced . The same should apply to you.
Shoot.

DeepSight:
Since you said "a penny for your thoughts" I will seize upon this to propose a treaty with you. A treaty of sober peace and reason. Are you open to such a treaty? If so, then we should make efforts to eschew extremist positions and reason as lucidly and objectively as possible, with the openness and humility of mind to concede to superior argument and that which we do not know, and the willingness to change views and adapt. Is this something you can see yourself doing? If it is, then let us begin to reason together under such a treaty. If you are game, I will propose further terms of such a treaty.

North Korea trajectory is unlike any other country in modern history The founder is a deity,his son is a deity and the present grandson one is the holy priest.

A contradiction. If a homogeneous society is more likely to develop than one which is not. Why then do you support immigration?

The Uber wealthy in the society ,this is my theory. All get their wealth from the poor downtrodden in the society. Manufactured goods are consumed by the majority of the population. You can extrapolate this to luxury goods. Make money selling Lamborghinis ,your buyers sell indomie, rice ,sugar and toothpaste.

If the white South Africa produce everything, majority of their customers are the black . That's the area govt needs to look at. The mass population is the economic driver.
South Africans have a higher income per Capita than the rest of Africa, they found systems and structures in place . Are they destroying these systems. For example the judiciary.
There is absolutely no reason black owned businesses and should not be doing well.
A penny for your thoughts.

DeepSight:
Apples for apples. Korea didn't have a majority society broken by apartheid. It is literally a small homogenous place

And even then, what about North Korea?

The way people make comparisons are just shocking. Every day I see people use Singapore as an example against Nigeria for example. Singapore is literally one city. Nigeria is a nation cobbled together from over three hundred distinct ethnic groups of very disparate world views.

I may be wrong .
Democrats want to ban marriages in total before 18.
We know a lot of teens get children before 18. What happens in such cases. Democrats provide them with abortion options , govt funded abortions.
I may mention religious cultures that betroth their children when young.
Strictly what would encourage paedophilia. Abortions or bans in under 18 marriages.
There are those who insist on their 17 year olds who are already sexually active to get married instead of aborting. Many democrats and republican children are sexually active by 18 , especially those with absentee parents.

Personally I would never let my children get married before at least 20 years. I have said it , reluctantly I would raise any child they bring home, Let's face it , .It's a problem no parent wants to face at all .
I think it's a stretch calling those who voted no paedophiles.

cococandy:
We need to check the hard drives of the 36 republican law makers who voted no.

Korea didn't take 30 years to radically develop their country.

DeepSight:
I don't know what to say to them. They literally expect black people to succeed in a vacuum, by that I mean, as though they exist in a state where nothing affects their presents tense from the past. As though they were just dropped from heaven in 1994 without any baggage, without any massive economic and social disadvantage and bias, without any educational, housing bias and expected to succeed immediately even when it took centuries for those they compare them with to achieve what they did.

In the life of a nation thirty years is tiny. Even Nigeria which we condemn so much has had 66 years and that is still tiny in relative terms. Every nation MUST fight it's internal contradictions and even itself out psychology to assert a sense of peaceful identity before it can meaningfully develop. This is a process that took European nations many centuries. In Africa with the forced unities and divisions bestowed by colonialism we are expected to magically arrive at that place of peaceful and patriotic identify over night and copy and paste the progress which took the west centuries of blood.

Of course human societies don't work that way, they are not a sheet of paper which can be photocopied, they are living, energetic things with a psychology with emotions, with biases, with needs of every kind and even with insecurities and weaknesses of course. And when we state the obvious that such requires time to mature, we are badly misquoted as saying that it will take forever, and saying that blacks cannot develop of their own or make and effort or be responsible.

Overall what is most telling in this matter is that consistently, they make excuses for the worst atrocities of white people and jump down on even the most basic and normal facts concerning black people.

It is sheer madness not to know that a traumatized society like black south Africa would require serious time to even out its contradictions and assert itself into growth and development at an event pace.

What sane adult will claim not to know that?

I'd consider this as a form of reparations.
Once university staffers get to decide who enrols as a result of their racially acquired Ivy league certificates ,it will take momentous efforts to get rid of the practice.


https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-investigation-determines-yales-medical-school-discriminated-based-race


Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division has completed a year-long investigation into the admissions policies and practices at the Yale School of Medicine.

Yale’s documents show that its leadership intentionally selected applicants based on their race. Yale’s documents reveal that they studied how to use racial proxies to circumvent the Supreme Court’s prohibition on using race to select students. Yale’s admissions data demonstrate that Black and Hispanic students have a much higher chance of admission to Yale than White or Asian students with the same test scores.

“Yale has continued its race-based admissions program despite the Supreme Court and the public’s clear mandate for reform.” said Assistant Attorney General Harmeet K. Dhillon of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division

In the United Kingdom, fewer than 1% of the population owns approximately 50% of the land, while in the United States, the top 1% of households own roughly 40% of the total land value. Though America is much larger .


If all white South Africams gave Africans their land ,South Africa GDP per Capita would approach EU countries?

GracieX3:
Lol......
1. apartheid lasted 42 years (1948 to 1990) far longer than the 30 years that you expect free blacks to do miracles.

2. The effects of apartheid are still felt today. Just imagine the fact that whites own 72% of individually owned farmland.

3. Even the world bank points out the income disparity amongst racial lines. This is a legacy of segregation.


As usual, you expect blacks to excell in hardship and never blame whites for their enjoyment of blood money.

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Depends on when one saw the light and I don't mean getting filled with the spirit.
Everyone has a past .

cococandy:
What do you call a man who argues for conservatism aka the party of “family values”, criticizes black men for not being in their children’s lives, yet is buddy buddy with a man who does exactly what he pretends to be against?

And is himself unsure if he has any kids loitering around somewhere in the world that he may be unaware of? A prudent man would ensure he doesn’t engage in relationships that might lead to such situations if he’s indeed sincere about holding such values.

You guys are walking talking bill boards of hypocrisy and contradiction.

Deepsight and Co.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-carroll-abuse-defamation-670dd7ed241e22c52bd16e82a9febf69
The payment of $83 million to E Jean Carroll is blocked depending on whether SCOTUS will take up the case. I hope it does .

In the case and subsequent appeals most judges were appointed by Democrat presidents.

Lewis A. Kaplan . Presided over both main civil trials and key rulings. Appointed by President Bill Clinton (1994).

**Magistrate Judge (S.D.N.Y.) James L. Cott: Handled some preliminary or discovery matters. Magistrate judges are appointed by the district court (not by the President).

U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit (Appellate Panels)
Key judges from panels that heard appeals (panels typically consist of 3 judges; multiple panels involved across cases):
1.Denny Chin: Appointed by President Barack Obama
2. Susan Carney: Appointed by President Barack Obama.
3. Myrna Pérez: Appointed by President Joe Biden.
4.Sarah A.L. Merriam: Appointed by President Joe Biden
Maria Araújo Kahn: Appointed by President Joe Biden.

Other judges involved in en banc proceedings or dissents/concurrences (full court review requests):
Steven Menashi and Michael H. Park (dissented on some en banc denials): Appointed by President Donald Trump.

Debra Ann Livingston (Chief Judge, partial involvement): Appointed by President George W. Bush.

Additional Biden appointees (e.g., Beth Robinson) joined concurrences on en banc denials.


U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit (Appellate Panels)

had 7 judges appointed by Democrats vs 6 by Republicans.
Cases emanating from New York against Trump are still stalled or denied.
The democrat judges at the appeal blocked the en banc review of the case.
The case was an injustice.
Cococandy.
Democrat framed him in order to tag him a rapist.

Exactly..China has been having 3-4 mbpd of discounted oil every day. Saves them roughly $40-50 million a day .

benalvino3:
They don't understand that actions speak louder than words. Trump has killed every avenue China gets cheap energy from, and Ukraine is decimating Russian energy exports.

The Chinese economy is in a shock-hold.

The reception given to Obama was utterly disrespectful. Any other person would have gotten back into the plane and flown back.

benalvino3:
How they welcomed a weak leader.

Trump is respected compared to Obama

WOW! Back in 2016, China totally SNUBBED Barack Obama during his visit to the country — refusing to even give him STAIRS to get off Air Force One

A STARK difference from the red carpet rolled out for Trump today

America is truly respected again 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/iy5WRo4utL

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) May 13, 2026

🔥 AWESOME! President Trump just dropped this banger, infuriating Democrats

They can't stand 47 being respected by CHINA on the world stage.

Red carpet! Dream team! pic.twitter.com/NP5QrpIXWL

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) May 13, 2026

GracieX3:
That Iran is backing Hamas, how is that USAs problem? Other presidents after Bush were smart enough not to fight Israels war. Why must Trump do so.

Trump has not proven in court that the elections were stolen. Even so, lawlessness is not corrected by lawlessness. No legal justification for a 3rd term

You are utterly ignorant about Iran frequent attacks on America and it's interests. Totally ignorant

About elections, let's believe he will never prove it was stolen. I'm not an investigator, I read the signs like an astrologer and the Zodiacs are lining up .

They wanted Trump to go there talking tough.

Liberals lives are so pathetic.

benalvino3:
If Xi did all this for trump it is okay to call him a friend 😂

🚨 NOW: Chinese President Xi has a HUGE military welcome for President Trump at the Great Hall of the People

When we voted for 47, we KNEW this was the kind of respect he was going to earn us on the world stage.

Even from our number one adversary.

Democrats are down BAD. 🔥🔥 pic.twitter.com/pNvtYULz9Y

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) May 14, 2026

Elections that's another matter,though you have no coherent answer if Trump was rigged out.

Iran was behind every attack in Israel for over 20 years .Maybe you think Israel should just sit back and let Iran plan her demise. America should just sit back and watch them race to get the bomb while shouting death to America every Friday.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=r_f8JxrcYNk&si=-F5-8-YNNUkz7KZg

Ayatollahs Khamenei.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6AG1OqeItI?si=SwSy6pRlxsykVsKN
They don't mean that ?

Show me where taxpayer pay for the ballroom,your statement is a complete fabrication.

GracieX3:
1. Two wrongs cannot make a right. Even if elections were rigged, the law cannot be bent to rig a 3rd term. Secondly, only a court can grant that the 2020 elections were rigged- so far, Trump has failed numerous times in court.

2. The Iran war was unnecessary with no benefit. Progress was already made in Iran nuclear disarmament with negotiations that have been ongoing for years before Trump. Now, Iran has a reason to get nuclear weapons. Has there been any benefit now since the war started months ago? No benefit to the USA.

3. The ballroom is not privately funded and it is not necessary. A waste of tax payer money

Y

GracieX3:
Deepsight is just wasting his time with the MAGA cultists.

They will never criticise Trump.

1. Imagine supporting a 3rd term like an African dictator!

If someone is rigged out of his term ,what's the recompense. Jail the culprits, invalidate the 46th or pay him.

2. Imagine supporting the senseless Iran war that has cost the USA billions in Dollars and 13 lives of soldiers.

Other presidents have started trivial wars. Including Obama who destroyed Libya and gave Bokl Haram access to weaponry.
If at the end of it all Iran loses its capability to own a nuclear bomb ,who benefits. Are Iranian neighbors happy with the war objectives. Getting rid of the Ayatollahs.

3. Imagine supporting the waste of tax payers dollars on an unnecessary ballroom.

The ballroom is privately funded , a judge is the one blocking it .They are building a bunker underneath. When judge blocks the ballroom but allows the ballroom above ground, Congress says fine. We shall approve and allocate funds .
If you don't want taxpayer to cough $1 billion, ask the judge to pound sand.

4. Imagine supporting fighting a pope.

He sent Rubio to make amends with the Pope.

These guys are like homelander fans- they threw Jesus to the side to support Homelander as their new God. Trump is their new God- he has already posted an image of himself as Jesus!!

Iran has attacked every neighbor of it , Israel has sent Jews and the iron dome to UAE.. If that irks you take a hike. The war has changed mideast dynamics and you are the least qualified to offer a reasonable opinion of what if , then.
You think these nations love the Iranian. Iran's regime has come out of the closet. We know what they are capable of now.
You think your opinions matter to these countries?

Answer with a straight face
If there is evidence he was spied on and rigged out wouldn't you want the culprits to be jailed. If the politics and judicial system won't do that what's the recourse?
Go crying to Karim Khan?
My next monologue is about the fourth branch of government.

DeepSight:
You know very well exactly what I said. I posed a question and here it is:



That's what I wrote. Word for word. What he said he would like to do. What he wanted. And you quoted him verbatim affirming that what I said was true.

Period.

DeepSight:
Then rest. And stop yarning dust.

You are the one who started it by saying he would suspend the constitution.

I would but there is no mechanism short of having the military take over.
We know that's never gonna happen.
Yes there was fraud ,I have been saying so for over 5 years now, it would be a big shame for America to be found to have rigged oitba president. The country that sends observers to every election in the world to ensure integrity rigged it's own election. It's unpalatable to many. They would have let Trump retire in peace , drunk with power they sought to silence him,block him from running, excommunicated him from social media ,closed his bank accounts,indicted him all over especially on state levels where a president can't pardon, sued him and sought to bankrupt him..
When that didn't work they sought to assassinate him on live TV.

DeepSight:
I repeat, you were the one who said you would advise him to do so, so please answer your own question. Surely, while advising him to do the impossible, you would have an answer as to the method and means, Einstein.

As to the reason for once don't be dense. He said there was fraud and that was his reason. He spelt it out in the quote you brought, so why are you asking for a reason. Are you sleepy or high or something.

Look, it was just a dictator style itch to hold on to power by all means.

Vaccines . I'm a supporter of vaccines. They have eliminated diseases like Small pox and polio in almost the whole world.

Big pharma has need to produce vaccines cheaply purely for their profits. Insulin used to be produced from dead animal pancreas until around 1980 when scientists discover the can grow insulin from a lab bacteria.. Cost $3-6 per vial buy America pays for that patent and research and whatever else at around $300. That's for another day.

mRNA became the next big breakthrough big pharma strove to develop.. Research had produced a working prototype that would not react and kill a human being. Needed govt indemnity.
mRNA vaccines are easy to produce , and more easier to mass produce.

Dr Fauci had been funding Dr Daszak operation at the Wuhan lab after Obama blocked gain of function research in American labs.After COVID ,Dr Fauci had Dr Ralph Baric the father of gain of function serve as the Intelligence Community expert on the vaccine origins. (His research at S Carolina had been moved to China).
Dr Daszak of Ecohealth Alliance was hired by WHO to investigate the lab leak theory of COVID. Dr Daszak who worked with batwoman Dr Shengli at Wuhan Labs to tinker around with corona viruses , hoping to come up with an mRNA vaccine to ward off the corona viruses existing.
Dr Fauci has been an intelligence operative . Established biolabs to perform dangerous experiments in other countries. Tulsi Gabbard office this week has confirmed existence of 40 biolabs in Ukraine. Which had been denied all along. Fauci is well known to the CIA.He made sure every expert CIA contacted when investigating the lab leak theory was part of his inner circle that lied about the origin .

Naturally the CIA believed a lab leak was the cause. Dr Fauci manipulations of the WH and intelligence community + CIA led them to adopting his position.
That a man in Wuhan ate a bat , contracted COVID which then spread to the rest of the world.

What COVID spectics like me believe. Wuhan lab took an existing corona virus and humanized it..Added a feature where it could infect humans
Gain of function sought to humanize the virus found in some Chinese caves.How.They took rats ,lined up their nasal and lung alveolar epithelial space with human type , expose it to the lab engineered virus and found yes ,the lab version was capable of infecting humans.The natural one that supposedly found it's way to humans has never been handed over for testing.

Then big pharma took a few months to come up with the vaccine which 8 billion people in the planet were to receive.

Explain how he will suspend the constitution. How would it be done and for what reason. Does he have any reason for going down that route?

DeepSight:
Just as basilico did earlier up there, the exasperating thing about this is picking and choosing when they mean him to be serious.

They have a free pick among the usual -

1. Oh Trump speaks in hyperbole

2. He was just joking.

3. It's just Trump being Trump.

Etc.

Convenient.

And yet this is the same person they congratulate for doing exactly what he says he will do.

So that's it. They can't ever be wrong. If he does what he says, they are right. If he doesn't, he was just joking and we are petty.

What part dont you understand.
He got $8 billion from the state govt.
Then kicked pensions down the road.
The rest of the money is revenue he expects to raise this year with the rich people's tax. He hasn't collected a cent but he factored it in the budget.
I bet you know what shelving pensions mean.
Infact he has included revenues
from new sources as .
https://nypost.com/2026/05/12/us-news/mamdani-boasts-of-savings-in-124-7b-nyc-budget-plan-but-its-filled-with-hidden-fee-hikes/

cococandy:
Hateful haters gon hate. We are still waiting for the billionaire flight from New York City as predicted by hateful conservatives. When New York City and New York State at large start depending on red states to sustenance, you guys can come back and let’s have a talk about economics. In the absence of that, it’s just another horde of conservatives hating from outside a club they can’t even get in.

bayelsaowei:
So kill small small children, probably the age of your daughters?

Right?

All and sundry are blood thirsty antisemitic Jew hating folks?

My people..see the kind of humans we have in this group? Even animals are better behaved and more humane than them.

I called Hamas subhuman and their Gazan population supporters beneath human.
I stand by those words.
Have you read what raumdeuter posted about their atrocities on that day.
They did all that while the majority.palestinians cheered. Many Palestinian breached and crossed into Israel on that day to accompany.
They don't deserve any pity t all.
Furthermore I'm happy now that Iran funds are cut off. The open air prisoners have been getting a lot of money from Qatar and ME countries that Iran is now attacking. They had their chance to make peace backed by the ME obstinacy. They are on their own now. I have no sympathy for them at all.
People who burnt babies alive,beheaded others and played football with the skulls and breasts cut off, shot women in the genitals , etc. I couldn't bear to finish.
I have zero sympathy.Zero.
Iron Dome is now operating in UAE thanks to Abraham Accords which Hamas sought to prevent from being signed on Oct 7 . The goal was to destroy Israel through an unparralled invasion by Arabs into Jerusalem. The operation was Flood Al Aqsa. Hezbollah was supposed to join in the plan conceived by Iran ,Hamas jumped the gun before getting the go ahead from Iran.
I doubt your hateful mind knows all that.

If he can't have a VoterID Bill pass through Senate,DHS hence Secret Service is being defunded by minority senate , juries are refusing to indict, judges are throwing out cases and blocking his executive orders . Hell , he can't even get the Senate to go on a recess which would allow him to appoint anyone without vetting .
How will he suspend the constitution ?
Over 85% of executive orders blocked by judges in the history of Americans were his orders. Since you what his every word means , let me know what route he would use to suspend the constitution.

DeepSight:
Sigh.
Dont you people get tired of switching what you say? You were the one who went to quote him verbatim, in his defense, trying to say that I misrepresented him.

Quoting him verbatim, you were trying to show exactly what he really meant, no?

You backed that up by saying you would actually have personally advised him to suspend the constitution, thus showing that you believe he had such powers.

When shown that he neither had such powers nor does fraud make it possible to terminate any part of the constitution as he said, you then say I am petty for taking him seriously.

For real? I mean!

I just mean!

I couldnt make up this kind of flip flopping!

Jeeeeez!

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bayelsaowei:
Who supported the Hamas atrocities?

The little children that have been killed and also innocent mothers and women?

Tell me..

So IDF needs to use bullets when terrorists are hiding in a building m Why don't those in the building alert IDF where Sinwar is? They never did because they are all bloodthirsty antisemitic Jew hating inbred parasites.

bayelsaowei:
Everyone in Gaza is a terrorists supporter? Including innocent women, new born babies and tiny little children?

And you claim you have sense and also have daughters?

Those who support(ed) Hamas atrocities are sub human terrorist supporters
They are the perfect examples people who don't believe in heaven or hell use.
Do you think you'll go to the same hell as those Hamas rapists who were shooting women in the genitals?

You take a statement and stick to it's literal meaning.
If Trump said "Those who have ears let them listen" media knows it's foolish followers would believe them if they said he didn't include the deaf.

You are so petty it hurts.

DeepSight:
There we go. When shown how wrong and absurd what you and Trump said. When shown that you pick and choose when to say he means what he is saying.

This is what you have.

Abeg jaare.
Una no serious.

Good night.

Shoot

DeepSight:
Your co traveler ran away from the test I offered. Do you want to take it up and answer those simple two questions?

Remember rule no 13..Saul Alinsky.

DeepSight:
You just quoted him verbatim defending him by saying I misrepresented him and then posting his exact words.

I am telling you that those exact words implicate both you and him. Those exact words are disastrous.

Of course I am not surprised your fall back is "he didn't mean it."

When it suits you, you say he does what he says. When it suits you, he never means what he says.

Shior.
Jokers.