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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 10:26pm On Jul 26, 2013
Shared accord 2013 - US / South Africa.

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PORT ELIZABETH, South Africa (July 23, 2013) -- U.S. military forces are teaming up with South African National Defense Forces for Shared Accord 13, near Port Elizabeth, July 24-Aug. 7, 2013.

Shared Accord is an annual training exercise involving in-depth joint cohesion between U.S. and South African military forces during multiple training scenarios.

"This mission is designed to increase interoperability and build friendships with the South African Defense Force," said Maj. Chuck Slagle, executive officer for 2nd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division.

The exercise involves many participants to include about 700 American military members from the Army, Marines, Navy and Air Force and more than 3,000 South African National Defense Forces, or SANDF, members.

"Anybody can learn from anyone. We definitely learn from each other and can contribute our expertise to these exercises," said South African Military Health Services Capt. François Van Huyssteen, veterinarian with the Military Veterinary Institute.

Shared Accord 13, or SA 13, is a large-scale operation that will include multiple training missions to test the capabilities of both militaries. It will include an amphibious assault, combined live-fire exercise, situational training exercises and a tactical airborne assault, which will lead into a Humanitarian Civic Action event, known as an HCA, for the South African community.

"It's great having all the Americans here," said Sgt. Maj. Andrew Stanley, watch officer for SA 13. "It shows the military capabilities and also the cooperation between the different forces."

HCA will provide health services to include dental, HIV screening and ophthalmology services, Slagle said.

Another aspect to HCA will be mobile veterinary services to include rabies vaccinations and tick treatments, Van Huyssteen said.

Through all of the exercises in SA 13, both militaries hope to improve skills while learning from one another.

"We're both here to learn," said Slagle. "The South Africans have a lot of experience and really we're just sharing. We're not training them on anything. We're improving each other through this exercise." grin grin grin

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 9:58pm On Jul 26, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: Just like Jacob Zuma as your leader. Boardroom figurehead. No brain. grin grin
Your Naai-gerian brother still says "yes baas" to him. grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 9:47pm On Jul 26, 2013
Msauza: What about your Nigerian woman who are selling themselves to SA men on daily basis? I wonder if they even get tired of being screwed everyday by different men. Bwahahahahaha!!
Yes - one of them having done it on national television. Beverly and Angelo - for the whole of Africa to see, I gather?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 9:27pm On Jul 26, 2013
Msauza: Agaugust and Naijapindish have this impression that South Africans are only black. South Africans are.
1.BLACKS (Zulu, Xhosa, Setswana, Ndebele, Sesotho, Sepedi, Siswati, Xitsonga and Venda)

2.WHITES (English, Greek, Portuguese, Jews and Afrikaans)

3.COLOUREDS (English speaking and Afrikaans speaking coloureds) and

4.ASIANS (Chinese and Indians)

So, please stop focusing only on one race because SA is not Nigeria but a rainbow nation.
Tell them Msauza. South Africa is not Naai-geria.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 9:19pm On Jul 26, 2013
agaugust: South Africa's beautiful ladies are running after Nigerian educated and skilled men who have jobs and our Naija boys are s.crewing their ladies from both 'front and back' position on a daily basis as wives or 'experimetal objects' while the lazy and illiterate south African men are as helpless as I.mpotent morons watching while Nigerian men S.uck the 'cow milk' out of their fine women . shocked


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Skilled in Hillbrow markets? Sure, dude.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 9:15pm On Jul 26, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: He managed to pass his MBA by studying hard through brain exercises like teaching South Aficans the importance of common sense.

How many missionary schools? And how many of your grandfolks got educated? They surely were very busy back in those days, slaving away in the mines for your Aparthied masters!
The only thing that he passed was a diploma at a low-grade Naai-gerian military college of sorts. And then he went on to join the NAF as a glorified tea boy. And now he thinks he's an analyst.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 9:11pm On Jul 26, 2013
agaugust: .



for every 10 south Africans that gets a job in Nigeria, about 1,000 south African illiterates have lost a job to an educated and skilled Nigerian worker .

86% literacy and south Africa is begging medical doctors from tiny Cuba to come help and take over south African hospitals and also Nigerian doctors in hundreds have opened new private medical clinics in south African and now employ illiterate south Africans as floor cleaners.

South Africa's beautiful ladies are running after Nigerian educated and skilled men who have jobs and our Naija boys are s.crewing their ladies from both 'front and back' position on a daily basis as wives or 'experimetal objects' while the lazy and illiterate south African men are as helpless as I.mpotent morons watching while Nigerian men S.uck the 'cow milk' out of their fine women grin grin

I don't believe that south African literacy figure they post here.


About 90% of the pre-apartheid era blacks are illiterates shut out of the educational system by their racist white boer and Anglo masters .


An intellectually wasted generation and majority group in south Africa. All still alive drinking 'cool drink' beer while immigrant Nigerians with technical and professional education and work skills take over the citizens jobs everyday grin grin

literacy in south Africa simply means being able to write and spell your father's name. You get counted among the national figure of 86% literacy grin grin.

You're talking out your backside.

Naai-gerians don't qualify for BEE. Never mind their low education standards.

Who would choose a Naai-gerian over a black South African?

And for what business benefit?

Fake MBA.

In any case, your wishful thinking goes to emphasise your acceptance of the Naai-gerian brain drain situation.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 8:18pm On Jul 26, 2013
agaugust: .

An intellectually wasted generation and majority group in south Africa. All still alive drinking 'cool drink' beer while immigrant Nigerians with technical and professional education and work skills take over the citizens jobs everyday grin grin

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Yes. I suppose that's why your newly appointed MTN Naai-geria CEO says "yes baas" to a South African black, Sifiso Dabengwa.

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 7:47pm On Jul 26, 2013
NaijaPikinGidi: Amazing how you'll go the length to prove your failure levels! grin grin Your effort to drag in other countries is a waste of time. Ever heard that downgrading benchmarks can never equate to upgraded brains? Weak brain capacity is the reason for the overruning of your base by SELEKA! grin grin Enjoy your 33% pass mark!!
Coming from a nation that has a 98% failure rate in WAEC exams... SMH

98%!? shocked
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 7:34pm On Jul 26, 2013
http://www.army.mil/article/107990/U_S__Army_Africa__South_African_partners_kick_off_Exercise_Shared_Accord_13/

PORT ELIZABETH, Republic of South Africa (July 25, 2013) -- Approximately 700 U.S. and 3,000 South African Defense Force service members gathered here for the opening ceremony of Exercise Shared Accord 13, July 24.

This is the second exercise of its type between these two countries and is the result of bilateral discussions that originated in 2009, and were approved in 2010.

"This particular exercise is aimed at specifically providing collective training for the United States and the South African National Defense Force while building interoperability and mutual understanding between the two armed forces," said South African Maj. Gen. Ephraim Phako, deputy chief of Joint Operations.

The senior U.S. officer on the ground said he hoped the exercise would enable his forces to better themselves and learn new ways of doing things by watching their counterparts.

"We are here also to learn how [South Africans] conduct their day-to-day operations, airborne operations and peacekeeping operations and in turn show them how we conduct those same operations," said Brig. Gen. Peter L. Corey, deputy commander of U.S. Army Africa. "We will improve our own skills by training with them in a different environment."

Shared Accord 13 is a U.S. Army Africa-executed exercise. The multilateral training exercise includes a live-fire operation, airborne and dismounted infantry tactics, a maritime amphibious assault, peacekeeping operations and disaster response. In addition, a humanitarian civic assistance project is scheduled which will provide primary medical, veterinary and optometry assistance to the local population.

"The exercise will include training in peacekeeping operations and joining with sister services to conduct humanitarian aid in the form of local medical, dental and veterinary clinics," said Phako, adding that more than 10,000 pairs of eyeglasses are planned to be distributed.

Soldiers from 1st Battalion, 18th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Infantry Division, will be making-up the bulk of U.S. forces involved in the exercise. They will be joined by service members with 82nd Airborne Division, 10th Special Forces Group, 2nd Marine Division, 4th Marine Division, District of Columbia Army National Guard, Rhode Island Air National Guard, New York Army National Guard, 3rd Infantry Division, 1st Medical Command and 1172nd Movement Control Team.

The ultimate goal is to build lasting relationships and increase professional capacity of armed forces from both countries.

"It is my wish that Exercise Shared Accord 13 will set a sterling example for future cooperation and peace support missions between the armed forces of our two countries," said Phako.

Exercise Shared Accord is scheduled to run through Aug. 5. All U.S. units will return to their home bases at the conclusion of the exercise.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 7:08pm On Jul 26, 2013
AwodwaGyanOniwe: Drewza
WE SAW THIS ON eNCA AFRICA NEWS, US ARMY SAYS THEY WERE IMPRESSED WITH S.A. ARMY grin grin grin grin grin
THE TRUETH IS SELEKA,M23(crying already), HAVE NEVER TESTED THE FULL MIGHT OF "MIGHTY SANDF" AS I SAID THE ZULUS,VENDAS,AFRIKANERS,ENGLISH SA,INDIANS SA,CHINESE SA,XHOSA, TSWANA,SHANGAAN ETC..WEREN'T THERE SELEKA KILLED FEW CHAPS FROM BLOEMFONTEIN.

THE TRUETH IS ONCE WE Bleep THEM UP SOON WE WILL BE CALLED DICTATORS
wink wink wink

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig:
GidiNaijaPikin: Again, even with Nigeria's high population there are far more literate Nigerians than South Africa can ever aspire to educate in several decades! Nigeria's 61% rate is easily 300% the number in SA (put at 86%) ... hence, an upwardly mobile workforce, a highly competitive economic outlook and lots of room for local knowledge and skills development in Nigeria. Point is ... your literate population is grossly overstated especially when you have 33% as a pass mark grin grin. And there'll never be an end to Nigeria's so called illiterates taking your jobs and educating you all! grin grin
West Africa is the worst performing region on literacy rates.

Southern Africa is the best performing region on literacy rates.

Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 5:26pm On Jul 26, 2013
Msauza: Rooivalk always had its original engine built by South Africans, but the engine was not that powerful to the level they hoped for. So, to save time for yet another tiring project and costs, they had to collaborate with french company which were already specialist of Aerospace to upgrade their engine parts. So what is your argument? Bwahahahahaha!!
Oops! grin

Naai-gerians killing their own arguments everyday!
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 4:23pm On Jul 26, 2013
sambos994: Here we go again...troll central...
Did you say that when "white genocide" videos were posted by Parrot4?

Awodwa is welcome here.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 4:17pm On Jul 26, 2013
Msauza: INDIA have adopted 33% pass mark system but have far greater brains than Nigerians. I quote from the source:

The qualifying marks in each subject of external examination shall be 33% . However at Senior School Certificate Examination,in a subject involving practical work, a candidate must obtain 33% marks in the theory and 33% marks in the practical separately in addition to 33% marks in aggregate, in order to qualify in that subject.

For further reading:

http://www.indiaeducation.net/cbse/grading-system.aspx
You know, Msauza, this is a typical quality vs quantity argument.

Naai-gerians can't even compete in their own West African exams.

98% fail WAEC.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 11:04pm On Jul 17, 2013
drag_on: i never said anything about that my friend,read my very first post.
Ag, you know what, it doesn't matter if you want to play that game. I'm not going to play along.

It's clear to see who said what.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 11:01pm On Jul 17, 2013
drag_on: last post on this:
Sigh i guess some Africans cant see around a bend.....
SA EXam few to no south African qualifies and they spend year after year trying.
Nigerian Exam: Far more travel to study,qualify and achieve their dreams even though they spend an extra year.
Do you see the apparent illusion of greatness now?
Just as well that this is your last post on this. You are hapless. You took on an argument that you failed to sustain. Throwing phrases like "not entirely true" around and failing to back them up.

Your "last post" remains irrelevant, just like your whole argument.

The point is that our South African system is trusted. Naai-geria's system is NOT.

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Regarding your irrelevant point: It's not as if the 98% percent Naai-gerians that fail WAEC don't have to keep going back grin

And then in addition to that, they still have to bridge, because they have been graded by a system the rigour of which is in doubt.

What a waste of my time.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 10:49pm On Jul 17, 2013
drag_on: entirely true and untrue is not the same.
Then, show me the part that is partially untrue, please.

Once again:

The argument is that South Africans do not have to bridge and Naai-gerians have to bridge.

Which part of that statement is untrue?

Please.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 10:45pm On Jul 17, 2013
drag_on: @bcraig
---Your opening statement was that my statement was untrue. ---
quote where i said that son
See below - and I'm still waiting to hear which part was untrue. Point me to that, bearing in mind that my statement was simply that South Africans don't have to bridge and Naai-gerians do.

So please. Show me the untruth.

drag_on: i modified the post to show that your statement about south africa is not [b]entirely[/b]true.check the link
http://www.manchester.ac.uk/international/country/africa/south-africa.htm and compare with the wiki link.
again read from the university link :Entry requirements vary according to subject, but are typically in the region of AAAAB–BBBBB.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 10:42pm On Jul 17, 2013
Naai-geria: This country has its hands full grin

Fires everywhere!

How oil thieves beat Navy – Chief of Naval Staff

http://roadmapnigeria.com/news/?p=6797

In what apparently has become a source of concern and worry for the Nigerian Navy owing to the nefarious escapades and operations of oil thieves, Chief of Naval Staff, Vice Admiral Dele Eze-Oba yesterday acquainted the Senate Committee on Navy on why the Nigerian Navy finds it very difficult to fight oil thieves, saying that unless proper funding is made available to keep its vessels running, the notion of the Navy confronting and getting rid of those engaging in the illegal act of oil theft may very well be a pipe dream.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 10:38pm On Jul 17, 2013
drag_on: do the maths(simple probability).the % of students that score an A in a single subject and then a B.then the probability of scoring AAAAB-BBBBB that is an average of 70-75 passing grade.Then check you National passing grades.
So what? It is our OWN South African system that the students are measured against!

Your Naai-gerian system is ignored, no matter how "good" your students think they are.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 10:35pm On Jul 17, 2013
paniki: All respectable universities will have high entrance requirements, so I wouldn't be surprised if that varsity also has a AAAB requirement for its home students. I don't know of any South African doing engineering at a SA university with less than straight A's. The point is the the SA qualification is good enough for direct entry while Nigeria is not trusted. Pointless arguing against this.
Try to explain it to him slowly.

He's gone and confused and irritated himself. grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 10:34pm On Jul 17, 2013
drag_on: Good grief, is deductive reasoning that hard?what i am saying is this;for most South Africans that direct entry is an illusion.
Your opening statement was that my statement was untrue.

So now, you've abandoned that argument?

Your argument is now that my statement was always true - it's just that for most South Africans , direct entry is an illusion?

Is that it now?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 10:30pm On Jul 17, 2013
zetdee: Where does your 3% figure come from? Whats percentage of Nigerians qualify to bridge?
He read wiki and wiki says only 3% score A in our OWN senior certificate exams.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 10:22pm On Jul 17, 2013
drag_on: let me help you,3% of south frican students can score aaaab-bbbbb so the rest will keep trying year after year to enter and fail,while Nigerians only need 1 foundation year.Have you finally deduced what i have been implying?
Wake up, Sir. It says clearly, One sitting! If a South African goes to the university and has the scores, the South African is in. And that's only for specific subjects anyway.

If a Naai-gerian A student goes to the University, the Naai-gerian student will need to go through a foundation year. That's across the board.

Nowhere does it say South Africans have to bridge. Our system is trusted enough for that requirement to fall away. We don't gift people As in South Africa. That's why only the best get As. That's why our A students are respected. Yours are NOT. A student, B student, C student - the university doesn't believe you people know what you are doing.

I think you're trying to punish me for your own confusion. Your argument is irrelevant at worst and reinforces my point at best.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 10:13pm On Jul 17, 2013
drag_on: i guess induced reasoning is a bit hard over there.My post suggest that what you posted is not entirely true because you did not add specific parts that suggest it is next to impossible for your country to get those scores.
You're arguing against yourself. The scores required are from our OWN South African system. Therefore, your argument is mute.

The point is that our education system is trusted to assess itself. The Naai-gerian system is NOT. It requires a whole year's further assessment.

You tied yourself up in knots and your point is irrelevant.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 10:12pm On Jul 17, 2013
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Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 10:10pm On Jul 17, 2013
Call for ICC probe into Naai-gerian murderous military.


http://www.irinnews.org/report/98426/call-for-icc-probe-into-nigerian-military



DAKAR, 16 July 2013 (IRIN) - As Nigeria attempts a ceasefire with militant Islamist group Boko Haram (BH), analysts warn against a blanket amnesty and urge that an expanded International Criminal Court (ICC) probe include alleged abuses by the military.

The ceasefire is being negotiated by a government panel set up to develop an amnesty for BH, but details as to when the truce will be signed, whether all the BH factions have agreed to it, or if the amnesty has played a role in the planned ceasefire, remain sketchy.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 9:58pm On Jul 17, 2013
drag_on: first of all i never said you need an extra year,You need (typicaly) 4'a's and 1'B' to 5'Bs' for entry.now compare that with your average 30 for pass,or just check the wiki link.
So, what's so untrue about my statement? I said South Africans don't have to bridge. What's untrue about that?

Just explain to me where the untruth is, looking at the above.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 9:52pm On Jul 17, 2013
drag_on: this is a copy/paste from the website:

General requirements for undergraduate courses
Five passes at one sitting in the National Senior Certificate are considered to be suitable for direct entry to undergraduate study.

Entry requirements vary according to subject, but are typically in the region of AAAAB–BBBBB.

For entry onto certain subjects, particularly Science or Engineering degree courses, academic Schools may ask certain for subjects (usually Mathematics and Physics).
Yes, AAAAB–BBBBB of our own South African system. Not so?

You get that, then you have direct entry for those specific subjects that require that.

Where do South Africans have to bridge?
May I have an answer please.

And where does a Naai-gerian of AAAAB–BBBBB gain direct entry? May I have an answer please.

Just show me where it says South Africans have to bridge. You said I'm not telling the truth, didn't you?
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 9:48pm On Jul 17, 2013
drag_on: lol you still need an AAAAB-BBBBB grade as an entry requirement.can't you read. huh
Where does it say South Africans are required to bridge?

Please show me, since you read so well.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by BCraig: 9:44pm On Jul 17, 2013
drag_on: i modified the post to show that your statement about south africa is not [b]entirely[/b]true.check the link
http://www.manchester.ac.uk/international/country/africa/south-africa.htm and compare with the wiki link.
again read from the university link :Entry requirements vary according to subject, but are typically in the region of AAAAB–BBBBB.
Don't simply post my OWN link back to me. Tell me where I am wrong. What did I say and how is that wrong?

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