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debosky:If the above were to be the case, then the man wouldn't even have been arrested in the first place. |
debosky:There are many really horrible things occuring across the Nigerian landscape. There are bombings, assassinations, lawlessness and brigandage. there are the recurring Jos massacres. All these are things Jonathan inherited from past govts and not solvable in a day. However you would note that he has indeed begun the process of turning around the PDP (witness their transparent primaries). Lets give each state level problem a little more time, national problems first. |
passyjango:Thanks a lot for your post, progressive minds quite clearly think alike. You will also note that in tune with your position on education as a foundation for the the country's development, GEJ has taken on the education of the almajiri (including changing their curriculum to include Western education); this is a first in the country and a radical approach to employment, productivity and security issues in the North. For graduates remaining idle years after school, there are a lot of promising economic developments (notably in the power sector) which will revitalise the Nigerian employment outlook. GEJ believes very much in that the private sector is the true driver of development and intense work is going on in these areas, from provision of accurate statistics (a first in Nigeria), to creating enabling environments (eg the financial help for Nollywood), there are also very exciting openings for private power generation. Please seek out the forward plans of the FG in order to key in, you too could become an employer and soldier in Nigeria's development, GEJ is opening up the field. Where we disagree, is in your strange claim that GEJ is part of the cabal. There couldn't be a longer stretch from the facts on the ground. Bear it in mind that Jonathan is the reason Ribadu is campaigning today, he was sent into exile by the cabal, but GEJ erased their trumped up charges against him. A true democrat and respecter of the law! [size=21pt]Fresh Air 2011![/size] |
jason123:It is not speculation. Akande is the chairman of ACN and this is the second time in a week that he's said the same. |
gangar:Please note that in what you call a "defense", Buhari never even denied that he would implement sharia nationally. He simply dodged the question. WHY? @IbrahimB Thanks for your reasoned words. They are most welcome. |
jason123:I have told over and over that you do not understand the Nigerian political terrain. Take something like a year to get up to speed. I'm glad though, that the reality is beginning to seep through. |
^ So to you, that is a video of the sharia council meeting? Wonders! ![]() |
[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=586801.msg7545993#msg7545993 date=1295224163]Dude, personally I don't give a damn about the threat of almajiris. What I'm concerned about is coup. Now, is my concern regarding this risk completely unwarranted? If so, why? Easy for you and I to say, since we don't live in any affected areas like Jos. And I suspect that you (like me) can easily escape from Nigeria if Nigeria falls apart into chaos. But what about those who don't have an exit plan? Well, those education programs you suggest will take 5 or 10 years to have an impact. And how do you know that education will even help things? You can only lead a horse to water, cannot force the horse to drink.[/quote]What coup are you talking about? The almajiri's do not command the army. Simple observation shows that the cabal that has been shunted from power will go to any length, question is; why have they not been able to use their vaunted army? Perhaps the extent of their influence is simply the loudness of their vocalisations to which the weak have trembled. Fear and intimidation have always been key weapons in their asernal. They have even threatened to shoot Jonathan several times, eg http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5512632-146/jonathan_honours_the_military_in_fear.csp If neutralising their almajiri hoards is a 5 - 10 year project, then the only way to sort the problem in Jos (and elsewhere) is by staring the perpetrators directly in the eye with a mixture of diplomacy and hard action, just as govt is doing now. Appeasing almajiri's or quaking in fear because some loser has employed minors to storm the streets is the road to another cycle of failure. Times have changed in Nigeria, and they have changed drastically; it is now a World of merit where nobody will bow to ethnically driven terrorist tactics, its always better to get the terrorist. The North deserves a better, dedicated and worthy leadership, and they will get it. |
^ Ok, no vex, lets assume Ribadu is very experienced. Please tackle the points raised sir, it shouldn't be too difficult. . . .And don't neglect the challenge I threw earlier for you to provide links. |
debosky:Its actually 'Atiku style failed politics.' ![]() It is the politics of anything goes ugliness, lies, bigotry, threats of violence, aspersions etc. |
violent:Another attempt at Atiku style failed politics. I challenge you to provide a single link to a quote by GEJ saying the bolded, please remember to apologise after you fail. The rest of your post is of similar loose quality. |
Abeem:How (and where) was Ribadu voted in? |
[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=586801.msg7545779#msg7545779 date=1295221159]^-- You are now characterizing @Gbawe as a sympathizer of these dudes? Did you even read what he wrote? Show some class, man. His concerns are worth considering, not blindly discarded. How long until you regain your senses and are able to talk as a rational person, rather than a GEJ sycophant?[/quote]Rolling over and giving in to those who employ minors to carry out ethnically bigoted protest will never be an option in my books. It could be in yours though, its a big World. The simple fact is, it is the bold that change the World and cowards die several times; there is nothing to consider in Gbawe's stance. It is simply a plea for the status quo to carry on because the whole nation should be scared of hired kids on rampage. Perhaps, you have a brand new definition for the term, "rational," which includes appeasing almajiri hirers, rather than tackling the roots of the almajiri problem. |
frosbel:The meeting wasn't covered on radio or video to the best of my knowledge, and if it was, we must ask why in all these years, Buhari has not wheeled out that evidence in his favour. Thats a darn good question, don't you think? If you ask me, it would be in Buhari's favour to burn and destroy every last trace of such evidence. |
[quote author=Jon.Bee link=topic=586305.msg7545754#msg7545754 date=1295220839]@beaf & co Let me school you to the game. All Muslims belief in the Sharia It is the Quranic laws & jurispudences By castigating Buhari on Sharia, you are insulting their religion esp. when you & your cohorts label him a terrorist on the basis of this So becareful not to jeopardize GEJ by alienating a demography critical to April poll If you don't know, now you know![/quote]Dude, your logic is twisted. I do not care if Buhari's religion is Christianity, Islam or anything else. The simple fact is that he has no right to force it on those who do not share his belief, or do you not think Buhari's stance alienates people like me who are the vast majority of Nigerians? Anyone who wishes to be president must be tolerant, it is that simple. Forget about any campaign and face reality. |
I have waited patiently for the "Ribadu" side to tackle the realistic scenario's below should the totally impossible happen, this is my third reminder, yet none have taken it up. Why? Interesting debate! The all conquering (albeit mistaken) corruption killer, Ribadu cannot fight corruption in high places! |
frosbel:Its in the OP actually: "I will continue to show openly and inside me the total commitment to the Sharia movement that is sweeping all over Nigeria," Buhari said, quoted in press reports.http://www.news24.com/xArchive/Archive/Calls-for-total-Sharia-in-Nigeria-20010827 Here's another as well: Nigeria: Former Ruler Calls for Imposition of Islamic Law Muhammadu Buhari, who ruled Nigeria from 1983 to 1985 after a military coup, has called for Sharia law to be imposed on the 123 million population, of which at least 40 percent are Christian. An Agence-France-Presse report quotes Buhari as saying, “God willing, we will not stop the agitation for the total implementation of the Sharia in the country.” In February up to 3,000 people were killed in riots when Sharia was imposed in the state of Kaduna.http://www.libertymagazine.org/index.php?id=1116 |
naijaking1:Thanks bro, we have had enough of almajiri wannabe's, coup plotters, vampires and bloodsuckers. "I will continue to show openly and inside me the total commitment to the Sharia movement that is sweeping all over Nigeria," Buhari said, quoted in press reports. |
Defeated fair and square in party primaries, the Atiku bandwagon has taken to politics of the ridicoulous. The Chairman said further that the Divisional Police Officer in charge of Hadejia had informed him that [size=14pt]the protesters were minors[/size], hence the police could not make any arrests.In their rush to promote their primitive politics, the criminals and their sympathisers like Gbawe see nothing wrong in child abuse, no step is too far. We all resolutely reject the politics of terror and ethnic bigotry and we will win this battle. |
Almajiri's will always be used by the vultures that colonised the North and brought rampant illiteracy, deseace and poverty to the region. Nigerians will continue to face up to them, the country belongs to us all. The likes of Gbawe are preaching the politics of ethnic bigotry and cowardice, while the rest of us are embracing a new dawn where merit, not ethnicity is king. For your info, GEJ's govt has kicked off a project for the FG to educate the almajiri, with Western education forming a part of their curriculum. This will make them into productive, rather than destructive cogs in society. In the meantime, rather than profer or key into solutions, the Gbawe's of Nigeria continue to propagate and encourage the primitive politics of ethnic bigotry with statements of startling shamelessness like the below: Gbawe: April is beset with unpredictable scenarios . I have stated it many time that abolishing zoning , with a GEJ win , may not happen , without serious reppercussion, when it is the most clannish region in Nigeria that loses out. The ACN , CPC and ANPP are all showing tacit acquiescence with zoning with how they are all fielding Northern candidates in their Presidential slot. Some of us educated folks , in our high-handedness, simply do not understand the sheer number of malleable illiterates running around joblessly and aimlessly. We think things can happen and consequences be damned , simply because we want it to , when in reality our Nation may not be ready for such events.No sir! We do not give in to terrorism in any guise. |
These are the statements, the Buhari and Ribadu teams are worried about. But they are the perceptions of a well respected elder statesman and former Attorney General of the nation, most campaign teams are living a lie: “[size=14pt]Jonathan is not comparable to the other candidates like Ribadu or Buhari. It is like the difference between a people coming into a fight with an elephant and the other party coming with a tortoise[/size].http://www.compassnewspaper.com/NG/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=73331:ribadu-not-even-fit-for-governor-says-akinjide&catid=43:news&Itemid=799 . . .A simple call to face reality from a wise and elderly head. It is an analogy that might draw blaughter, but is nevertheless completely accurate. |
safari SA:Err, my candidate is not a sharia monger or wannabe almajiri leader. GEJ is a man that reaches out to all across faiths, Muslim, Christian, animist etc; he is a large tent under which all Nigerians can gather. He surely isn't a scary eyed stick weilder, waiting for the opportunity to force extreme religious views on the innocent like Buhari. |
^ Why not try a new trick instead of sounding like a scratched record or someone who learnt politics by rote? I'm not in the mood for cheap games. We in the GEJ camp are still laughing! ![]() I blame Obj! ![]() |
^ Who threatened the delegates na? Was it "weak," lil Jonathan? ![]() You people keep decieving yourselves, thats how crackpot theories start. What GEJ did to Atiku is known as "strong tin" in Warri parlance. pro01:Story, story! Deafening defeat is always accompanied by tales of denial and total disbelief. I'm sure Atiku still believes he won the primaries, even though he had to make so many fake phone calls to cover his grief!! ![]() Dude, Jonathan is only fulfilling righteousness by reconciling with those goons. Lets watch, the baboons will reject it and be hit with a dizzying array of left - right combinations, masterful straight jabs, left hooks and devastating uppercuts!!! The road to oblivion is a sorry place to be. |
^ I know! It is because of Obj sir! ![]() If not for Obj I would have grown up very informed and wise. It is Obj! |
[quote author=Akanbi_edu link=topic=586540.msg7542321#msg7542321 date=1295170092]^^^^ So you are comparing internal affair of a party with rigging? I know the problem with you guys, your sentiments are taking the better of you and you need reasons to rationalize it. ACN is not perfect but comparing with the PDP is way off the mark. If you need a reason to support PDP look for another one instead of "they are all the same slogan" If you have never participated in the political process in Nigeria, you can never understand. shallow minds.[/quote]The bolded is correct, cos it is now worse than PDP. While PDP conducted a very transparent and exemplary primaries, which we all witnessed and took part in; ACN simply shared out to family members of govt officials in what they called "consensus." The word "consensus" is now a new swear word in Nigerian lexicon. I hope ACN doesn't become one too. All parties are corrupt, but while some like PDP are showing positive changes, others like ACN are regressing. It is a reality we non-members of any party can observe from afar. |
Ddaji:You will keep your governors, cos we will back them with oyel. Unu nefa see nutin! ![]() |
^ Let me guess, when you;re 100, you will blame bad weather on Obj. Dude, get a life, the man aint God. |
^ It is your story and it is a lie. That crap was forged when Ribadu was in exile, now the man is back and has said it repeatedly, that the story is false. So why are you lying? Its a funny game, especially when exactly like Atiku, both GEJ's main opponents are tiny regional players? Keep on with your toilet politics, you are only decieving yourself and no one else. I de laf O! Ask Atiku where his heap of lies got him. ![]() |
[quote author=jay_getta link=topic=585949.msg7542152#msg7542152 date=1295165085]Wow. . . . The agbero behavior just couldn't wait to come out, eh, Beaf?! Can you stick to the programme for once and act civil, instead of the usual uncouth behavior which you are currently exhibiting? Thanx![/quote]Which is uncouth? truly's knowingly posting lies or my calling out a liar? Dude, add to the debate or scram. |
And then there was another case of sufficient transaction that has to do with Bayelsa State. About a woman who did a business with Bayela State- contract it was 70million Naira of sufficient fiduciary report that we got. We investigated it and there was nothing connected with Mrs Jonathan. Even as at that time those who were desperately looking to make a political mile out of every opportunity decided to use that to link it with them simply because they wanted to kick them out of office at that time. It's not me that can help people in political things. That's indeed that was what happenedhttp://www.nigeriavillagesquare.com/articles/nvs/candidate-interviews-2-mallam-nuhu-ribadu-unfiltered-full-text-and-audio.html I de laf oooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! ![]() Atiku tried the lying route and failed woefully. That should be a lesson for all, GEJ has ushered in an era of clean politics; it is a period of great change for Nigeria. We utterly reject petty politics, mudslinging and libel. |
@truly Ribadu himself says your story about Patience Jonathan is a lie. So what are you arguing about? Do you just like lying? |
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Did you even read what he wrote? Show some class, man. His concerns are worth considering, not blindly discarded. 