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goatandyam:
Still dey play. Abdulmutallab entered the chat.

I m sure you know how rich that was.

that's why I said especially women

madridguy:
You need to sit down yourself and study world politics to know some certain things. Some people you tagged terrorists are some people freedom fighters.

Terrorism is just one aspect of Islam's reputational problem and it's so cute how you switched from no Muslim can deny their religion to terrorists are freedom fighters. Forcing women to hide from public, is that one freedom fighting too?
This thread is for moderate Muslims not menaces that further worsen the reputation of Islam, such as yourself.

madridguy:
Mention the country you live and let me google the Muslim percentage there. No Muslim will ever hide his or her religion.

Toh at the bolded. Of course a fundamentalist believes in extremes. Out of over 1.4 billion Muslims in the world, not one is capable of hiding his/her religion in certain circles.
Toh

madridguy:
Big lie. Stop telling lies for useless likes.

Well I live abroad and I know many Muslims who don't like to talk about religion and things like that. They just do it privately. I guess they are afraid of being judged

goatandyam:
Moderate muslim? Dey play.

They are all the same thing. Doubt this at yoir own peril.

They are all walking potential terrorists.

lol, I believe some Muslims (especially women) are going to be apolitical and just follow the religious doctrines. Don't you think? For instance Dangote's daughters or children of the elite.

Today is Friday and I wish all Muslims a peaceful Friday prayers.

Non-muslims like myself form opinion of Islam by looking at Muslims and their actions. Our parents did not indoctrinate us to see islam the way we do. We just watch the news and interact with muslims. There are other religions like Hindu, Christianity and Buddhism with billions of adherents just like Islam. But Islam is one that spectacularly stands out as 'off-ish' to neutrals.

Terrorism, violence, restrictions of women, hard-line laws, repression, political ideology, aversion to modernity etc are some of the things that Islam has become known for.

Many Muslims feel uncomfortable identifying as Muslims in certain circles.
How do you feel about the reputation of your religion? How does it affect you? Do you want the reputation to change or are you ok with it?
Can we hear from you?

budaatum:
Tunisia is about as close as it gets.

• Men and women in Tunisia have equal divorce rights

• Domestic violence is illegal

• Abortion is legal for any reason for the first trimester

• Birth control is available over the counter.

• There is no law against not covering your head.

• Workplace discrimination is illegal.

Tunisia still has a lot of problems (being LGBT is still illegal, etc.) but in comparison to many other places they are doing very well. (Quora)

that's great. Hope you realise though that this is an exceptional case. Which means it doesn't represent the norm

budaatum:
Is it Islam that represses or is it ignorant fuqs oppressing with their own corrupt version of Islam?

https://www.nairaland.com/8306529/muruna-tatawwur#133539369

tell me one Islamic society that gives women equal rights as men?

EmperorCaesar:
Number 1 is correct. Sometimes, i used to wonder if their morning starts by 11am
Number 16 is quite true too


Just read through. You couldnt have said it better.

As for the population of Northerners in Anambra, I guess it says more about the region than the Northerners themselves. Aside Deltans(linked by state boundaries), its very very very hard to see non-Igbos in Anambra(excluding Onitsha). You could just walk into anywhere and speak igbo and most times, 100% of those there are Igbos

Why compare them tho?

Lol, of course it's entirely weird to have more northerners in Lagos than in Anambra. BTW, how many northerners live in Ibadan compared to Lagos?

AK481:
Isreal arms kurdish separatist and they are their natural alien in the mid west .

Heard of PKk,YPG and persmerga?

no. Explain

jazzman7711:
Was there any country called “BIAFRA” before the colonial invaders came?

Did Igbos even regard themselves as one people?

NO THEY DID NOT.

They WARRED against each other.

You lived in INDEPENDENT CHIEFDOMS which regarded their fellow Igbo-speaking neighbours as FOREIGN COUNTRIES.

So this your nonsensical “Igbo kwenu” tribalism and “Biafra” sentiment itself is a DIRECT FUNCTION AND PRODUCT OF BRITISH COLONIALISM.

Nigeria as presently constituted can and will be the world’s first genuine black superpower since Ancient Egypt.

Can? Yes. Will be? Probably not. Because our best days are fast going behind us. We are gradually losing our economy. It would take a major restructuring to start growing economy again. We also have not managed to put aside our differences after 64 years of independence. We are still as Awolowo described us, 'a mere geographical expression'
Also 3 nations were brought together in 1960 to federate and form Nigeria. Gowon destroyed that by creating 12 states. Successive fulani military men managed to up that to 36 mushroom states that struggle monthly to pay salaries. Monthly minimum wage is less than 50 dollars and even that is hard for these states to pay on time. States created simply to share oil money and give undue advantage to North

Exousiang01:
Okay now I see you are a child.
Please go and read for your WAEC

Throwing insults about does nothing but expose you as someone to be ignored. My last reply to you

Exousiang01:
so with the diplomatic relationship China and Russia has with one of the strongest nations in Africa you think they will throw that away for a nobody like Biafra in the middle of war....
Every nation wants a strong partner, These nations will not destroy their relationship with a string nation Nigeria for a mushroom nobody community like Biafra.

Or you don't know why Nigeria was invited to the last BRICS meeting in SA before this previous one in Russia?

The BRICS need the power houses in every continent not some government in exile with less that a 1000 troops and zero global economic influence....
Like I asked earlier, How old are you.
You don't seem to know anything about international politics.
You think Iran with what they are facing right now will come to help Biafra

Are you even educated?
Don't you know the process of getting independence?
Don't you know it's your house of Assembly and national assembly members that would push for it?

Who do you think will loss if a war breaks out?
You thinl you 5 local governments can hold the Nigerian Armed forces
You must be less than 5years old

Lots of insults, little substance. Typical of a Nigerian.
First of all, countries have supported countries to break up in Africa in the past. Somalia, Sudan and Ethiopia all broke up by groups that got foreign support. Also countries go against allies all the time. When the South Africa wanted to Anex Lesotho and Namibia, UK refused. Even though South Africa has a large British population.

Russia and China may not be interested in fighting Nigeria today. However tomorrow may be another matter. Nigeria being invited to a BRICS meeting is of little consequence. Nigeria is not part of Brics and Nigeria does not hold any strategic importance to either Russia or China today. They may not interfere because Biafra means little or nothing to them.

However Iran can interfere, has the capacity to interfere and has the incentive to Interfere. What they are facing today makes it even more pertinent for them to arm more proxies around the world and expand their influence. That is the only way their regime can survive. The Biafran territories have oil and gas that would appeal to them. And being able to defeat a Western-backed government in Africa sends a strong message to the west that Iran is not defeated.

Lol Nigeria has said over and over they would not negotiate its unity. This simply means that no political mediums to achieve Biafra, only military ones.

Exousiang01:
So you don't understand how international politics works right now.
You think any country even the world powers would want to have issues with Nigeria?
How old are you again

Lol this is very funny and laughable. You are the one I should be telling this to.
As we are currently speaking, many countries are arming groups in other countries to cause mayhem, to achieve certain objectives your apparently small mind won't comprehend. Nigeria is currently not a top 3 economy in Africa. Nigeria is currently not a top 3 oil producer in Africa. Why would a world power feel so particularly averse to having issues with Nigeria?
Nigeria is under the protection of UK as its founder. Countries that align with or fear UK will not want to interfere in Nigeria. But that does not include countries such as Iran, China and Russia etc. They will interfere if they want and nothing will happen

NaMe4:
The likes of Nnamdi Kanu, Simon Ekpa and co do not have such capacity even within the SouthEast. These guys can't even influence a change of government within any of the SouthEastern states. In fact, there's no evidence of any form of positive development in the S/East anchored by ipo.b. Only armed gangs who intimidate and kill poor, striving citizens in the name of sit-at-home. They can't even take the sit-at-home madness to their government houses.

they can influence a change of government. Hell, they brought sit at home and it has been largely followed for 3 years. If they flex that change of government muscle, they will achieve it. They however play as being above Nigerian politics.
One thing about Nigeria and Nigerians is they underestimate a security threat. Only a typical Nigerian would write off kanu and ipob as not being influential. Hezebolah had an army stronger than Lebanese military but never interfered in the governance of lebanon

jazzman7711:
You have just said a whole lot of NOTHING.

Utter nonsense and trash.

Nigeria is standing, and is developing FAST, and is going nowhere.

Nigeria is not fast developing. Nigeria is not even among the top 20 fastest developing economies in Africa. But I like your patriotism. Hope your patriotism is to Nigeria and not to your ethnic group, otherwise toh

rinzaugustine:
Great points you made but however I am against killing innocent Yoruba and Hausa masses and soldiers for Biafra to be actualized because that would be the first victims of the onslaughts if those guys lay their hands on Iranian superior weapons, missiles, fighter jets, rocket propellers etc. I prefer exploring diplomatic channels even if it takes 20 years . That is how many countries have been able to achieve theirs. I remember Nigerians laughing at Camerounians and reading for armed onslaught against Cameroun over bakassi but they went to court. It took them 20 years but at the end of the day they got Oil rich bakassi ahead of Nigeria. From Ojukwu to Uwazuruike to Nnamdi Kanu to Simon Ekpa, there is no evidence that they have brought the case of Biafra to United Nations because they are mostly concerned with exception of Ojukwu of raising millions of dollars and pocketing under the guise of actualizing Biafra while in their hearts they are not interested in Biafra. There was a lady that started Biafran agitation online after Kanu arrest, the money she raised within a few months dumbfounded her so much that she chickened out of it. Reno supported Nnamdi Kanu for only a few months before his arrest but the money he made in that short period of time enabled him travel almost all over the world, same about billions Ekpa have made etc so the current agitations you see today is a conduit pipe to siphon money for Biafran cause but not to actually actualize Biafra. We need to follow it through the right channel if Biafra is what every or most Igbos want

Well, colonial borders in Africa has only been successfully changed twice. Bakassi was not one of them. Bakassi was never Nigerias. It was under our control but was never gazetted as ours on any colonial records.
The two cases of south sudan and Eritrea were both by armed struggle. There are more internationally recognised claims to self determination, such as Palestine, or the Kurds etc. Is it Biafra that UN will leave all these to listen to? On what basis?
In Africa today, Somaliland has been independent for decades but unrecognised. Even independent Northern Cyprus is unrecognised. No UN will give you Biafra. Only Nigeria can. And currently, Nigeria doesn't want to negotiate its unity. So basically if you want it, you fight for it. Full stop.

Ojiofor:
Taliban and Iran share common border.Nigeria navy controls our water ways and the ocean.
They can only help by giving financial assistance but ideologically speaking IPOB can't work with Iran.

ideologically speaking is the main thing. Other things you wrote don't follow. Even oil smugglers are beating our navy not to talk of a sophisticated state like Iran. I repeat it to the roof, if they decide to arm a group in Nigeria, forget it. They will do it.

NaMe4:
LOL

Won't be a surprise at all as the Biafra agitation is just a quest for a shift in elitism by a few in the South East such as Nnamdi kanu, Simon Ekpa, etc.

just? All change in government is a quest for a shift in elitism. The whole idea of a coup or deposition is to change who call the shots. It is not 'just'

Looking4Trouble:
This your new drug plug is the winner. But I hope the drug will not lead you to a bottomless pit

you didn't need to quote me to write this bro. Just write it and move on

jazzman7711:
But in 1960 a footpath led to your village. Do you think the British built roads for you?

Was your entire village not illiterate in 1960?

Did you have mansions in your villages like you have today, while cursing and hating the independent Nigeria that made that possible?

Was it not just mud huts and thatched roofs in your village in 1960?

How many public schools did the British build for you before independence?

Name the industries, power stations and universities they built?

Do you know it amounts to ZERO?

Ewu.

Without independence in 1960, you would be a stark illiterate peasant, and malnourished village farmer, palmwine tapper or hunter today, so STFU.

lol, every single country on earth has developed better than their 1960s state. The problem is that while most countries in Asia and southern Africa has had accelerated growth, Nigeria's growth has been painful to watch. The road you see today here, you may not see tomorrow. The infighting and tribalism got worse etc. Regional governments maybe the other alternative but Nigerian governments have kept playing around this. Maybe outright disintegration is the next best thing

gidgiddy:
Which brings to question, what is the point of Nigeria? The country has consumed millions of lives since the British created it, made life worse for most people and gets worse every day. Nigeria has never worked

Singapore is just 5 million people and is half the land size of Lagos, but has a bigger GDP than Nigeria

Better to be Singapore, smaller but effective

Are you telling me why Nigeria should disintegrate? I should be telling you bro

Ojiofor:
Iran supply Yemen rebels by sea and air and mind you the Yemenis have their territory under their control.They control both airports and seeport in fact they are like a state.FG knew why went after the shiite movement because they know they are likely to get armed in the future and challenge the government.

Iran can easily supply ipob. If simeon Ekpa can supply ipob with riffles and guns, Iran can supply missiles. There are a lot of unmanned water ways leading into Biafran claimed territories. Kanu escaped from one of them. It's so easy for Iran to this, they have gotten extremely good at it. Iran was supplying Taliban right under the nose of the Americans

jazzman7711:
SHUT UP AND STOP TALKING RUBBISH.

What do you mean “Nigeria will remain in the near-death state for decades and centuries”.

That’s a very dumb, ignorant outlook, even measuring the progress made from 1960 to today, where there has been MASSIVE infrastructural and socio-cultural development, which OBVIOUSLY implies a positive, upward trajectory of development going forward into the next “decades and centuries.”

Yes you are right. Nigeria has seen massive progress, compared to the bush we were in 1960. However, these has been almost entirely achieved through the sale of oil. Oil will be either finished or irrelevant within our lifetime. What will our children do then? If Nigeria is currently in this state of affairs where 80% live in multidimensional poverty when we still have the 8th largest oil deposits in the world, how will Nigeria be without petrodollars?
Would it be a bad idea for manageable nation- states to be eventually created out of the current geographical expression called Nigeria which even the current sitting president said he didn't believe in?

Exousiang01:
It is no longer US and UK.

Nigeria is a sovereign Nation.
No country can help Biafra achieve shit....

Eritrea defeated Ethiopia with the help of Italy despite Ethiopia getting support of Soviet union. South Sudan defeated Sudan
And Somilland defeated Somalia.

The writing of the history of African borders has not finished my friend. Sovereign states collapse all the time, even the almighty soviet union

gidgiddy:
Don't worry about that. Years corruption, mismanagement, insecurity, suffering and deprivation is only leading Nigeria to inevitable collapse and disintegration

The everyone can finally go there way

I don't see anything called Nigeria existing in 5 years

lol, this is wishful thinking. Nigeria didn't collapse in 1967 or 1993, it won't just up and collapse because Tinubu is President. Nigeria's economy and state is very similar to its neighbours around Africa. Nigeria doesn't have it worse.
For Nigeria to collapse, something has to tip it over. It has to battle a great power like Iran or Russia etc. Otherwise, Nigeria will remain in this near-death state for decades and centuries and rag-tag groups like Bokoharam or ipob will keep being target practice for the equally rag-tag nigerian military that would be incapable of defeating Hezbollah in its current weak state

Chibuzoc:
Iran that helped the zoo to bomb Biafra in 1967?
Nigeria should keep supporting Hamas in UN conventions

Iran of 1967 was ruled by a British puppet king. Not today's Iran

Ojiofor:
Iran couldn't help Shiite movement in Kaduna for a reason of no land border between the two nations to supply arms and ammunitions.
Now that Iran has lost Syria that they used as land bridge to supply both Hezbollah and Hamas watch and see those groups become irrelevant.

lol, the Shiite movement in Kaduna was never militant. Who do you propose arms boko haram and how do they do it? Is there a border between Yemen and Iran. Many of you underestimate Iran because of the current affairs which is basically The U.S, Germany, and Uk teaming up with isreal to beat Iranian proxies. Iran can easily arm any militant group in Nigeria and make them stronger than the current nigerian military within 15 years. They have a very long verifiable track record of doing this, no be today.

mymadam:
🤣🤣🤣

e funny abi, but many groups have become what they were originally not, just to achieve their objectives. If ipob can start a Jewish movement, knowing the vast majority of Biafrans are Christians, they can become a Shiite movement too lol

Flangelo12:

why are you laughing. What are your thoughts

Iran

I see IPOB identifying with Isreal in the hope it will gain it favour and by extension, its support. However Isreal does not operate that way. Isreal has no foreign policy of arming groups. Besides Isreal has no problems with Nigeria and gains nothing from arming a group against the state of Nigeria. Israel is looking for legitimacy.

Iran on the other hand has armed capable groups in Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, Lebanon and Palestine. These are just the ones popularly known.
And make no mistakes, Iran is a very powerful country. Isreal may currently be winning against it but that is because of America and EU. Iran is one of those countries that stand on their own. It is also a cradle of civilisation and one of the richest countries in the world. It makes many of its own weapons and is the leader of the global Shi'ite movement and a potential superpower.
Also Iran has a beef with Nigeria and has incentive to interfere. Nigeria has persecuted Shiites before. Also Iran may want to secure a foothold in Africa.
If IPOB becomes a Shiite movement, it may successfully secure the support of Iran and change its reputation and strength, even if majority of Biafrans remain Christians. With Iran's support, the Alawiit of Syria which comprised only just about 20% of Syria ruled that country for over 50 years. Waiting for American or Jewish support for Biafra is of no consequence, they won't go against British interests. And neither will Russia help, they dont arm non-governmental groups as much as Iran. These countries have zero incentive to go against Nigeria
However we know IPOB will rather fail than go Islamic...so go figure 🙄

Dtruthspeaker:
like you, billions and billions of people are going to hell because like you they already know that, that is their judgment for the evils they have done, which is why we all see them in anguish and great sorrow and fear when they are dying or about to die. And we all see this things which is why all of you keep saying that "thank God for life" whenever accidents missed you.

Whereas, if God was friend you would know that death is better.

But death cannot be better for pagans and evil people and enemies of God and death is very very much worse for them as we have all seen when people are dying and all the prayers they start asking people to pray for them.

like me? You have already decided i am going to hell? Lol. Have a nice life bro