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ReeOde: Good morning everyone.
To be blunt, i'm a muslim, and i am not here to antagonise your bileive, rather i only wish to share a few comments for the best.
And pls pardon me if i vexes you.

First of all, DRESSING is the issue and what does it means?
According to Oxford A.L.D (6th edition), it means: "the act of putting on clothes (the things that you wear, such as trousers/pants...)."
But the bases is, why do we have to dress?

Genesis 3:7 (The King James 2000 Version) - "And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were NAKED; and they sewed fig leaves together, and they made themseleves aporns". And so on Genesis 3:10-11.
Further more, in Genesis 3:21, "Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God MAKE COATS OF SKIN, AND CLOTHED THEM."
From the above chapter/verses, it is now known to us that the essence of dressing is to clothed ourselves from our unclothedness.
NAKED on its own is another topic which we have to understand. We often think that our breast and our sexual organs are what constitute or defines our private parts or unclothedness but we are wrong and that is absolutely where the problem lies.
WHAT IN OUR BODY MAKES US NAKED?
It is stated in the Qur'an (Allah's words reveal through Angel Jubriel [Gabrel] p.b.u.h) and also explaned in the Hadith (sayings of Prophet Muhammed, peace be up him [s.a.w]). That's why our women have to dress up in Hijabs (such that it will cover their bossom).
From our worldly desires and influences, some amongst us are now trying to blend in their wears to suit that of civilization which is leading us astray.
In Islam, every part of a woman's body is her unclothedness (but it's enough for her to reveal her face, hands [wrist]); as for a man, starting from is knee to his chest. It is subjected to further explanation as explaned in the Hadith.
To sum it all, in Islam, i must concentrate more on the women, everything that makes up their beauty is their unclothedness (even their body shapes) and that is why they are not allowed to wear a fitted cloth.

...DOES OUR DRESSING REALLY MATTERS?
Yes it does, and why?
From Psychological analysis, one's body becomes emotional inclined, attracted, moved, erected...from seeing the unclothedness (beauty) of an oppsite sex, even same sex probably he or she is more beautiful or handsome than we are. These mixed feeling brings about temptation that could actually make one go extra mile in order to satisfy and balance his/her thin and thick. We can do and undo as a result of that.
Also, the young ones live by what they see and what they learn from us, and when we get it wrong, then we are distroying their future and as well, others to come.

A Sin doesn't stay stagnant, it increases and get worse. Starting from Adam and Eve, the forbidden friut, and now it is Adultery, Fornication, Shirk, Homosexuality e.t.c.
We just have to be fearful of God, separate His want from ours in order to get it right. Let's try to imagine the dangers our future generation could incure from our own err.

We have our views, may God guide us aright and forgive me if i've in anyway commented wrong. Ameen

tintingz: hypocricy in the highest order!. . .do you think HOLY. . . i mean HOLYspirit will stand (especialy) with a woman watching are exposed body in the temple of God?

akthedream: You must be high on skunk or have you received and holy Slap??Must it be a christain state/country be your terrorist can attack?

Rocktation: Answer me this; do newbies imagine that they give jollof rice to whoever makes it to the home page?

tintingz: yep this thread meant for christians while you guys insult others beliefs. . .Jesus christ did'nt die for my sin nor anybody sins only God forgive sins and your holyspirit you worship that does'nt have a name for the past 2000 yrs we did'nt hear him nor read his new things to come. . .yes am fasting buh i did'nt insult i only gave my view and the fact.

akthedream: Are you trying to tell me the bible is useless?

akthedream: Are they not better than those that accept christainity for things as harmful as HOT SLAP?

akthedream: Go to india,denmark,Isreal,kenya and see how christainity has made that place peaceful.

Dimples 316: Bella, when you say many pastors have come out without shame to say our dressing doesn't matter, the bolded part gives me cause for concern because truthfully I haven't met or heard of any pastor who endorses poor/indecent dressing. In fact in my world it has almost become a tug of war between the pastor and his parishioners

I am not disputing your claims above, because chances are you have met or heard first hand from such pastors, its just the sweeping generalization without saying whom in particular that worries me. It feels almost like erroneously judging and condemning our own, lumping together both the honest and dishonest ones.

My post isn't meant as an attack on your person its just an honest expression of what I thought and how I felt after reading through your first post. Having said that, dressing decently and appropriately matters to me whether I be in church, hanging out with friends or partying because I seek first to please God.

akthedream: .
.What can you say about
there biblical verses you
little terrorist.
“When you approach a
city to fight against it,
you shall offer it terms of
peace. If it agrees to
make peace with you and
opens to you, then all the
people who are found in
it
shall become your forced
labor and shall serve you.
However, if it does not
make peace with you,
but
makes war against you,
then you shall besiege it.
When the LORD your God
gives it into your hand,
you shall strike all the
men in it with the edge of
the sword. Only the
women and the children
and the animals and all
that is in the city, all its
spoil, you shall take as
booty for yourself; and
you shall use the spoil of
your enemies which the
LORD your God has given
you. Only in the cities of
these peoples that the
LORD your God is giving
you as an inheritance,
you
shall not leave alive
anything that
breathes” (
Deuteronomy 20:10-17).
“Now therefore, kill
every male among the
little ones, and kill every
woman who has known
man intimately. But all the
girls who have not
known
man intimately, spare for
yourselves.” (Numbers
31:17-18).
“Do not think that I
have
come to send peace on
earth. I did not come to
send peace, but a sword.
I
am sent to set a man
against his father, a
daughter against her
mother, and a daughter-
in-law against her
mother-in-
law” (Matthew
10:34-35).

aribisala0: [b][/b]
Islam may be Incompatible with Igbo world view(if such a thing exists) or it may not be.

Certainly any form of Islam that seeks to control the government would be.But that is not the only form.A typical example is Turkey that is majority Islam but still bans Hijab etc and is quite liberal in so many ways.Unfortunately in many parts of the world Islam arrived by "FORCE" and this has affected the practice in those areas.In Western Nigeria Islam was adopted by persuasion rather than Jihad and I believe is a very tolerant part of Nigeria.

The idea of Christianity turning the other cheek is a red herring and is not really practised any where. If you look at the history of empires and war No group has killed as much of Humanity than so called Christian Nations. We might argue they were misguided but then one would have to equally argue violent Muslims are misguided.The killing of Jews in World War 2 was seen as some sort of Christian duty.The Slave trade in Africans was carried out for centuries by Muslim Arabs and European Chritians;endorsed by the Church.

History shows us that Christians are not that good at "Turning the other cheek". To date the only country that has used nuclear weapons is Christian,The USA.
They are responsible for killing millions in Angola,VietNam,Iraq,Cambodia,Afghanistan and elsewhere to "fight communism" but kept their distance while millions died in Rwanda but very quickly jumped in to remove Gaddafi. So much for turning the other cheek.
I am neither Christian nor Muslim but write to introduce objectivity.

As an African I see no superiority between both doctrines and regard both as extremely destructive to the African spirit

tintingz: @op, it does not matter oh. . .since Jesus christ has die for your sins and carried all your sins on his head wash them with his blood why should it be a big deal. . .you can go to church naked expose your bakassi while the holyghost is behind you watching your movement. . . Jesus is not angry with you at'all at'all he as already forgiven you with his blood . . .dance unto tha Lord helleluya!

Megabyts: All non muslims should ponder why more of them are becomming muslims daily even with the bad campaign against islam.

kaytytty: i do nt blame d christians because their religion allows them to practice same sex marriage such as lesbianism and gay,it also gives right to prostitution,it also does nt support early marriage but it support casual sex well am nt suprised it was a religion introduced after a long reign of slavery so their souls re enslaved n yet they rejoice in immorality n still they claim they want to b like christ

kaytytty: i do nt blame d christians because their religion allows them to practice same sex marriage such as lesbianism and gay,it also gives right to prostitution,it also does nt support early marriage but it support casual sex well am nt suprised it was a religion introduced after a long reign of slavery so their souls re enslaved n yet they rejoice in immorality n still they claim they want to b like christ