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| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by vemmawealth(f): 12:05pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
Wizeboy: Try to check the meaning of ignorance in your dictionary to see that I am very correct to use that word for your comment. I use such comment based on the fact that you are quick to call the prophet of God (Muhammad) a terrorist and all such of bad name without giving cogent evidences. So, calling you ignorance of the issue does not mean violence and I have never abuse you in all the comment I have posted (try to cross-checked it again) but rather you have call Prophet Muhammed and Muslims so many names which I didnt reply you. So, please get that right. Over 4000 years ago, the Bible predicted that the earth was circular in shape (Isaiah 40:22). Today, it has been proved scientifically that d earth is spherical. But according to the Quran, Alexander the Great (called Dhul-Qarnayn) traveled so far east that he ended up finding the actual place where the sun physically sets! 'I will recite to you a mention of him. We established him in the land, and We gave him a way to everything; and he followed a way until, WHEN HE REACHED THE SETTING OF THE SUN, HE FOUND IT SETTING IN A MUDDY SPRING, and he found nearby a people. We said, 'O Dhool Karnain, either thou shalt chastise them, or thou shalt take towards them a way of kindness.' He said, 'As for the evildoer, him we shall chastise, then he shall be returned to his Lord and He shall chastise him with a horrible chastisement. But as for him who believes, and does righteousness, he shall receive as recompense the reward most fair, and we shall speak to him, of our command, easiness.' Then he followed a way until, when he reached the rising of the sun, he found it rising upon a people for whom We had not appointed any veil to shade them from it. S. 18:83-90 Arberry Here are a few more English versions of Q. 18:86 for good measure: Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found IT SETTING IN a muddy spring… (Pickthall) Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found IT SET IN a spring of murky water. (Y. Ali) Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found IT SETTING IN a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. (Hilali-Khan) The noted Muslim translator, Abdullah Yusuf Ali, stated in his Quran translation that, 2430. This is the first of the three episodes here mentioned, his expedition to the west. "Reaching the setting of the sun" does not mean the extreme west, for there is no such thing. West and East are relative terms. It means a western expedition terminated by a “spring of murky water.” This has puzzled Commentators, and they have understood this to mean the dark, tempestuous sea. If Dhul al Qarnayn is Alexander the Great, the reference is easily understood to be to Lychnitis (now Ochrida), west of Macedonia. It is fed entirely by underground springs in a limestone region, where the water is never very clear. (Bold emphasis ours) Saying that this passage has puzzled Muslim commentators is to put it mildly. This, perhaps, is one of the clearest evidences that the Quran could not have been revealed by the one true God of all since God would know better than to say that the sun literally sets in a spring of water. Realizing how damaging this story is to the so-called divine origin of the Quran, Muslims have come up with various explanations in order to explain away this gross scientific blunder. However, these feeble and misguided attempts of salvaging the Quran from its major errors and contradictions overlook one important fact: It conveniently ignores Muhammad’s exposition of his own scripture, and fails to consult his interpretation and understanding of this specific passage. Here is what Muhammad believed concerning the setting place of the sun: 91. Abu Dharr narrated, “Once I was with the Prophet (riding) a donkey on which there was a saddle or a (piece of) velvet. That was at sunset. He said to me, ‘O Abu Dharr, do you know where this (sun) sets?’ I said, ‘Allah and His Messenger know better.’ He said, ‘It sets in a spring of murky water, (then) it goes and prostrates before its Lord, the Exalted in Might and the Ever-Majestic, under the Throne. And when it is time to go out, Allah allows it to go out and thus it rises. But, when He wants to make it rise where it sets, He locks it up. The sun will then say, “O my Lord, I have a long distance to run.” Allah will say, “Rise where you have set.” That (will take place) when no (disbelieving) soul will get any good by believing then.’” (Ahmad) (The Translation of: The Meaning of the Fifty Hadith of Jame Al-uloom Wal-Hakim (“A Compilation of Knowledge and Wisdom”), compilation by Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali (736 H-795 H), translated and spotlights by Yaseen Ibrahim al-Sheikh (Vol. 1), A Selection of Authentic Qudsi (Sacred) Hadiths, translated by Muhammad M. ‘Abdul-Fattah, edited by Reima Youssif Shakeir (Vol. 2) [Dar Al-Manarrah for Translation, Publishing & Distribution], pp. 319-320) And: (3991) Abu Dharr said: I was sitting behind the Apostle of Allah who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: IT SETS IN A SPRING OF WARM WATER (hamiyah).3408 (Prof. Ahmad Hasan, Sunan Abu Dawud – English Translation With Explanatory Notes [Sh. Muhammad Ashraf, Publishers, Lahore, 1984], Volume III. Chapters 1338-1890, XXV. Kitab Al-Ahruf Wa Al-Qira’at [Book of Dialects and Readings Of The Qur’an], Chapter 1498, p. 1120 3408. Qur’an, xviii. 86. The word hami’ah in this verse has two readings. Abu Ja‘far, Abu ‘Amir, Hamzah, al-Kisa’i and Abu Bakr read it hamiyah with long vowel a. Hamiyah means warm water. The others read it hami’ah meaning musky water. (Ibid.) Not only do we have a gross scientific error, we also have a variant reading. This shows that, contrary to Muslim propaganda, the Quran hasn’t been perfectly preserved since the extant manuscripts and the Islamic traditions show that it contains variant and conflicting readings. a different translation of Abu Dawud’s report: 4002. It was narrated that Abu Dharr said: “I was riding behind the Messenger of Allah while he was on a donkey, and the sun was setting. He said: ‘Do you know where this (sun) sets?’ I said: ‘Allah and his Messenger know best.’ He said: ‘IT SETS IN A SPRING OF WATER (fa innaha taghrubu fi ‘ainin hamiyah).’” (SAHIH) (English Translation of Sunan Abu Dawud, Compiled by Imam Hafiz Abu Dawud Sulaiman bin Ash‘ath – From Hadith no. 3242 to 4350, ahadith edited and referenced by Hafiz Abu Tahir Zubair ‘Ali Za’i, translated by Nasiruddin al-Khattab (Canada), final review by Abu Khaliyl (USA) [Darussalam Publishers & Distributors, First Edition: July, 2008], Volume 4, 29. The Book Of The Recitations And Readings Of The Qur’an, p. 375) Since this particular hadith is classified as sahih or sound, meaning that the Muslims who passed on this tradition were all deemed trustworthy and reliable, it therefore cannot simply be dismissed as a weak or fabricated narration.2 Hence, what this means for Muslims is that, according to the so-called reliable traditions, their prophet erroneously thought that the sun physically descends into a spring of water every time it sets! It also shows that Q. 18:86 cannot be interpreted allegorically or metaphorically, but must be taken at face value. Muhammad’s interpretation establishes the fact that the Quran isn’t simply narrating what Alexander the Great saw or perceived to be the case, but is reflecting the actual belief and view of the author. And since Muslims claim that Allah is the author of the Quran, this means that Allah truly thought that the sun literally sets in a muddy spring! It is obvious why Muslim apologists do not wish to mention and make known Muhammad’s explanation of the Quran’s claim that the sun sets in a muddy spring. They obviously don’t want people to know that Muhammad actually believed that the sun literally sets in a spring of water! So much for the repeated Muslim assertion that the Quran is free from all scientific mistakes. Also 1 There is another hadith in Musnad Ahmad where Muhammad is reported to have said that the sun actually descends into hell! Yazeed bin Harun narrated to us, from al-Awam, from a slave of Abdullah ibn Amru, from Abdullah bin al-Aas who said: “The messenger of Allah saw the sun when it went down and said (it went) into Allah’s hell fire. If it was not for the order intended for it (the sun) by Allah, it would have destroyed all that is on the earth.” (Musnad Ahmad, Hadith No. 6895) The above is a literal translation. Here is a dynamic equivalent translation: “When the messenger of Allah saw the sun setting down he said: It went into Allah’s hell fire. If it was not for Allah’s purpose for the sun it would have destroyed what is on the earth.” 2 These particular narratives still pose a major problem for the Muslims who reject the hadiths altogether. It is evident that whoever composed these reports clearly understood that the plain reading of Q. 18:86 meant that the sun literally sets in a muddy spring. The compiler(s) was/were obviously well versed in the Arabic language and could see that the grammar and the syntax of this particular verse ruled out the possibility of this being interpreted metaphorically or allegorically. In other words, the very existence of such reports proves that the obvious and unambiguous meaning of the manifestly clear Arabic of Q. 18:86 is that the sun physically descends into a spring of water. To, therefore, argue that this is not what the verse is saying basically means that the author(s) of the Quran failed to express his/her/their intended point clearly. Yet such a position would contradict and be in direct opposition to the Quran which repeatedly claims to be written in clear Arabic so that others can understand its message: Thus doth God MAKE CLEAR His Signs to you: In order that ye may understand. S. 2:242 Y. Ali Alif Lam Ra. A Book whose verses ARE SET CLEAR (ohkimat), and then distinguished, from One All-wise, All-aware: S. 11:1 Arberry A. L. R. These are the Ayats of Revelation, - of a Qur'an that makes things clear. S. 15:1 Y. Ali And indeed We know that they (polytheists and pagans) say: "It is only a human being who teaches him (Muhammad)." The tongue of the man they refer to is foreign, while this (the Qur'an) is a clear Arabic tongue. S. 16:103 Hilali-Khan We verily, have made it a Qur'an in Arabic, that you may be able to understand (its meanings and its admonitions). S. 43:3 Hilali-Khan Mecca By the manifest Book (this Qur'an) THAT MAKES THINGS CLEAR, S. 44:2 Hilali-Khan – cf. Q. 2:187, 219, 242, 266; 3:103, 118; 4:26, 176; 5:89; 24:18, 58-59, 61; 57:17 Hence, no matter what view a Muslim opts for in trying to explain away this serious blunder in the Quran, s/he is still left with major problems. The only reason why Muslims deny the plain and obvious meaning of this verse is because they refuse to believe that the Quran is not the word of God and that Muhammad is not a true prophet. As a result, they need to come up with some explanation which will justify their belief in a scripture that they have been erroneously duped into thinking is the divinely dictated speech of the Creator of the heavens and earth. 7 Likes |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by Sweetnecta: 1:14pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
@Vemmawealth: by vemmawealth(f): 4:56pm On Aug 04so you believe in something that you can not articulate and you want me to blindly go to God for the answer? Hindu will say exactly the same thing. none of the men listed here was a christian and none followed the way of christ: Noah, Abraham, Adam, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Aron, Joshua, Elias, Elijah, Job, Zacharia and John. I guess they were on the way you say God did not approve. Christianity is not a religion but a way of life.So All the listed men about missed the way of life, hence they only have religion. If they succeed, religion like Islam will succeed. If they perish, since Jesus fulfilled the book of the prophets, these men, where do you think you are standing considering that you reject their religion? Men could not meet the expectation of God.All the men listed above met expectation of God, the reason from among them you have the Personal Friend of God, Abraham. And you do not have a friend unless you approve of his lifestyle. Moses was speech of God and your Bible agreed that God spoke to him, directly. How are you justifying that no man received the Pleasure of God? So he sent Jesus to be an example to all men.John was a better example from your Bible, even from the tongue of Jesus. While Jesus was accused, it was jealousy against John that brought his tragic end. Christianity is derived from his name CHRISTianity. It simply means living like Christ.Have you lived like Jesus? Tell me how you worship God and i will tell you how Jesus worshiped God. Its impossible that Abraham that was called by God in Genesis 12:1 will be living like Jesus he never met.so your theory should hold through; it is therefore impossible for you to live like Jesus who you never met. It is impossible that Paul lived like Jesus who he never met. Therefore both of you say you are christians will not be in truth. Christianity therefore died with those who met Jesus. Sweetnecta: Let me tell you what the jews will say about your trinity; you claim it is Jehovah. the jews believe you have jehovah. i think it is jehovah, too. this is the reason you say Halleluyah, which does not resemble neither Jehovah nor Yahweh, but Allah in Syriac; Ellah. And Jesus did not say Jehovah or Yahweh on the cross [i dont believe the biblical account], but said Ellah so much so that the people thought he said Elias. Get a bible and learn before you through yourself headlong into Islamiic and Arabic discussion, that is so much way over your head.while you had claimed that you are christlike in lifestyle, christ of the cross said Ellah is the Name of his God. Are you disagreeing with Jesus or what? You see why I said you guys are not truly chrstlike? You said a lot of things but they are not clear enough as I didn't get d point u are trying to makeI am not the first muslim to not make a point with non muslims. Same thing was said about the messenger [sa] in Makka, even though the pagans will listen to Quran at night, eavesdropping behind the door. Enemies of Islam are the same. You have provided Arabic word for "The God", "god", the sentence "there is no god but God/The God". You try not to be a parrot. Make personal effort to research Islam. It is not a boko haram thing. It is not a hausa/fulani thing. It is not a nigerian thing. It is not a west african thing. It is not an african thing. It is not even only a human thing. It is a thing that will get you to the first base will The God, if it is He you sincerely want to worship. 4 Likes |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by sconsults: 1:23pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
[size=22pt] Christians and Muslims should stop trying to prove themselves.the truth is that all of you do not make sense and the doctrines of both religions are as vague as it is stupid, that's why it is by faith that we believe not by sense or logic Christians believe in a god that was crucified as a common criminal and could not save himself,then claimed that he shed his blood to allow his father to forgive mankind while Muslim believe in the same man but that he did not die.all this men where not even able to determine that the earth was spherical and nothing directly scientific could be attributed to them.stop trying to find logic in your religion because if there was one,everybody would have embraced it by now.an igbo man can choose to be anything he want to be even if he want to worship a goat,it is his choice.religion have not made igboland any better.period[/size] 2 Likes |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by EreluY(f): 1:40pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
Sheikh Shehu Uthman Anaga, DON'T BOTHER AT ALL. STOP WASTING YOUR TIME. 4 Likes |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by Bella3(f): 1:41pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
kaytytty: i do nt blame d christians because their religion allows them to practice same sex marriage such as lesbianism and gay,it also gives right to prostitution,it also does nt support early marriage but it support casual sex well am nt suprised it was a religion introduced after a long reign of slavery so their souls re enslaved n yet they rejoice in immorality n still they claim they want to b like christare you alright? Which christainity allows any of those things u mentioned? Say some church goers practise it! Okay? 1 Like |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by Bella3(f): 1:42pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
kaytytty: i do nt blame d christians because their religion allows them to practice same sex marriage such as lesbianism and gay,it also gives right to prostitution,it also does nt support early marriage but it support casual sex well am nt suprised it was a religion introduced after a long reign of slavery so their souls re enslaved n yet they rejoice in immorality n still they claim they want to b like christare you alright? Which christainity allows any of those things u mentioned? Say some church goers practise it! Okay!? |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by javalove(m): 1:46pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
vemmawealth: @ The Bolded Ignorance at its peak!!!! Please study the arabic language structure before you post. ALLAH is the Arabic word for God Almighty and ilah means a "small god" The word Allah is not used by only muslims but Arab christians and druids. . . Learn. . .learn. . .learn. . . The problems with christians is that you guys don't study other faith. . . stop reading fake articles written by non-muslims. .learn islam from the muslims and draw your own conclusions. . . #Javalove. . .unless otherwise stated. . .! 1 Like |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by 2sa2: 1:47pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
Wait, i tot it had already been agreed that there are no igbo muslims! What's going on here? |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by Sike(m): 1:51pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
tbaba1234: ^Muslim means one who submits to God.... Did Jesus submit to God? your bible says he did many times... If that is the case, He is muslim.... |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by stillme(m): 1:52pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
Jesus is the way to heaven. |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by maigaskiya1: 1:53pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
bayooooooo: Islam! Part of me wanna laugh.i wil advice ds outcast dat cald hmsef an ibo muslim 2 watch aljazera nd se wat is hapng 2 muslims in burma,bangladish nd india.dat wil be a childs play 2wat wil be fal dm soon in d east |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by zodosohio: 1:56pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
that abakiliki[iza] man is truly mad,what makes him think that ,that shit he is saying will ever be heard.i bet you if i ever set my eyes on him will kill him.let him try spread his preaching to onitsha in anambra state.MAD MAN 3 Likes |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by mu2sa2: 1:57pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
noblezone: Its not only the issue of tradition, Islam has a way of turning violence @ the end of the day."An eye for an eye". Is that from the Quran or Bible? Both Islam & Christianity preach forgiveness, but some followers of the two religions are involved in violence across the globe.E.g American Christians are sending drones to kill innocent men and woman in Pakistan, the same way boko haram is engaged in killing innocent people in Nigeria. |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by samkoro: 1:57pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
Sweetnecta: Allah is Able to make most difficult thing very easy. After all He made soft stones in the hands of a people so much so that a carved their homes in it. He made iron easy in the hands of King David [as] that it became the means of his livelihood.ð Ndi be anyi, unu ekwela ka ekwensu bu Islam bata na ala Igbo.Tufiakwa ihe ojoo. Anyi kwesiri igbako aka wee wepu ndi alakuba na ala igbo nile. Anyi o buzikwa ndi Igbo. Anyi kwesiri ime ka nwa Igbo obula bu onye islam ghara ihu uzo. Anyi kwesiri inapuha uzo ha si eri nri ,ma o bu wegara ha okwu chukwu ka ha wee chegharia. 5 Likes |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by maigaskiya1: 1:57pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
floriana: There can never be any igbo who is a true moslem. They join either for money or contracts. Chuks Odom former FCT minister of state was almost turning moslem to keep his post.there is only but one aceptd religoun in d east nd dats xtianity.d rest re ilegal 3 Likes |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by bright007(f): 1:58pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
the only reason I will like to be å muslim is because of d 72 virgins promised by allah. the only constraint is just dat I don't wanna blow-up myself. 1 Like |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by Emulti(m): 2:03pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
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| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by sexyglo(f): 2:05pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
kaytytty: i do nt blame d christians because their religion allows them to practice same sex marriage such as lesbianism and gay,it also gives right to prostitution,it also does nt support early marriage but it support casual sex well am nt suprised it was a religion introduced after a long reign of slavery so their souls re enslaved n yet they rejoice in immorality n still they claim they want to b like christ |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by FindOut(m): 2:07pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
Wizeboy: Try to check the meaning of ignorance in your dictionary to see that I am very correct to use that word for your comment. I use such comment based on the fact that you are quick to call the prophet of God (Muhammad) a terrorist and all such of bad name without giving cogent evidences. So, calling you ignorance of the issue does not mean violence and I have never abuse you in all the comment I have posted (try to cross-checked it again) but rather you have call Prophet Muhammed and Muslims so many names which I didnt reply you. So, please get that right. ITS OVER!!!! This has killed it. Can ANY christian in the world effectively dissect and trash all that is contained in this post? this should be enough to convert a person from xtianity. 3 Likes |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by Lachynos2k2(m): 2:08pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
muslim are nottin but bleepin dreamers,u should be more concerned about the large numba of muslims convertin to christianity...i laff in bleepin islam.. 1 Like |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by Nobody: 2:14pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
Igbo and Islam, Water and oil.  1 Like |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by lacasa: 2:17pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
The only supreme being the yeegbos conform ϯo is Hard currency |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by bright007(f): 2:17pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
Islam is really å religion of pisss and shitss. |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by PaulJohn1: 2:18pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
Sorry to break into this topic, I think this is important. Not sure of how true, but I think I have to share it. Received on BBM NB: I'm not responsible for this Info. It happened to be false, that why I didn't create a whole thread for it "Please stop sucking orange the nigeria police have announced this morning that they have confirmed 13 people dead in Lagos and the orange is spreading faster please inform others send this to all your friends and family if you love them...NPF" |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by itunu8(f): 2:21pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
tbaba1234: ^Muslim means one who submits to God.... Did Jesus submit to God? your bible says he did many times... If that is the case, He is muslim.... mr man..we D̶̲̥̅̊☺n̶̲̥̅̊'t serve d̶̲̥̅̊ same God.. Get✓ that clear.. stop tryn Τ̅☺ attatch here... Our ways beliefs r worldds apart S̶̲̥̅Ơ̴̴̴̴̴̴͡ stop dreaming. Jesus worshipd his father jehovah God.. Ur Allah Is sm1 totally different 2 Likes |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by tempest01(m): 2:24pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
All u ignoramuses...no amount of twisting and fault findings in another person's religion will make him convert. Action speaks louder than words. We all av a conscience, we know wats right and what's wrong. Letting a religion spur so much hatred is wrong. All we need is love. Love ur self, love one another, love God. 1 Like |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by sexyglo(f): 2:28pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
kaytytty: i do nt blame d christians because their religion allows them to practice same sex marriage such as lesbianism and gay,it also gives right to prostitution,it also does nt support early marriage but it support casual sex well am nt suprised it was a religion introduced after a long reign of slavery so their souls re enslaved n yet they rejoice in immorality n still they claim they want to b like christhave u seen d reason why people condem ur devlish religion?u practise child abusive in d name of gettn married early,V V F is predominant with muslim women due 2 early child bearn,only illetrates n selfish humanbeings can be lured into this blood suckn religion dat has turned dis country upsidedown.(BOKOHARAM) religion by example,n am ashamed dat an igbo brother is been used as a medium 2 islamise d east,mission impossible,n mind u dn't critize sm/one's religion just 2 win souls 4 ur so-called allah,by d way how much where u paid 2 do dis?i trust u na cos nothing goes 4 nothing .........OTI MPKU NWERE SHARE,bring my own share when ur bussiness mature cheers |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by sexyglo(f): 2:28pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
kaytytty: i do nt blame d christians because their religion allows them to practice same sex marriage such as lesbianism and gay,it also gives right to prostitution,it also does nt support early marriage but it support casual sex well am nt suprised it was a religion introduced after a long reign of slavery so their souls re enslaved n yet they rejoice in immorality n still they claim they want to b like christhave u seen d reason why people condem ur devlish religion?u practise child abusive in d name of gettn married early,V V F is predominant with muslim women due 2 early child bearn,only illetrates n selfish humanbeings can be lured into this blood suckn religion dat has turned dis country upsidedown.(BOKOHARAM) religion by example,n am ashamed dat an igbo brother is been used as a medium 2 islamise d east,mission impossible,n mind u dn't critize sm/one's religion just 2 win souls 4 ur so-called allah,by d way how much where u paid 2 do dis?i trust u na cos nothing goes 4 nothing .........OTI MPKU NWERE SHARE,bring my own share when ur bussiness mature cheers |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by Zulele: 2:28pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
We Muslims have no hesitation in acknowledging that in the Bible, there are three different kinds of witnessing recognizable without any need of specialized training. These are: 1. You will be able to recognize in the Bible what may be described as "The Word of God." 2. You will also be able to discern what can be described as the "Words of a Prophet of God." 3. And you will most readily observe that the bulk of the Bible is the records of eye witnessess or ear witnesses, or people writing from hearsay. As such they are the "Words of a Historian" You do not have to hunt for examples of these different types of evidences in the Bible. The following quotations will make the position crystal clear: The FIRST Type: (a) I will raise them up a prophet . . . and I will put my words in ... and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." (Deuteronomy 18:18) (b) I even, I am the Lord, and beside me there is no saviour." (Isaiah 43:11) (c) "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the end of the earth: for I am God, and there is non else." (Isaiah 45:22) Note the first person pronoun singular (highlighted in green) in the above references, and without any difficulty you will agree that the statements seem to have the sound of being GOD'S WORD. The SECOND Type: (a) "Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying Eli, Eli, lama sabachtani? . . ." (Matthew 27:46) (b) "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord:" (Mark 12:29) (c) "And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God." (Mark 10:18). Even a child will be able to affirm that: Jesus "cried" Jesus "answered" and Jesus "said" are the words of the one to whom they are attributed, i.e. the WORDS OF A PROPHET OF GOD. The THIRD Type: "And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he, (JESUS) came, if haply he (JESUS) might find anything thereon: and when he (JESUS) came to it, (Jesus) found nothing but leaves . . ." (Mark 11:13) The bulk of the Bible is a witnessing of this THIRD kind. These are the words of a third person. Note the underlined pronouns. They are not the Words of God or of His prophet, but the WORDS OF A HISTORIAN. For the Muslim it is quite easy to distinguish the above types of evidence, because he also has them in his own faith. But of the followers of the different religions, he is the most fortunate in this that his various records are contained in separate Books! ONE: The first kind — THE WORD OF GOD — is found in a Book called The Holy Qur’an. TWO: The second kind — THE WORDS OF THE PROPHET OF GOD, (Muhummed, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) are recorded in the Books of Tradition called The Hadith. THREE: Evidence of the third kind abounds in different volume of Islamic history, written by some of high integrity and learning, and others of lesser trustworthiness, but the Muslim advisedly keeps his Books in separate volumes! The Muslim keeps the above three types of evidence Jealously apart, in their proper gradations of authority. He never equates them. On the other hand, the "Holy Bible" contains a motley type of literature, which composes the embarrassing kind, the sordid, and the obscene — all under the same cover — A Christian is forced to concede equal spiritual import and authority to all, and is thus unfortunate in this regard. 2 Likes |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by karpentar: 2:29pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
@Wizeboy If you accept Jesus assertion that a comforter would be sent, why don't you also accept it when the same Jesus said he's the son of God?...or do you randomly pick which of Jesus messages to accept? Perhaps, you have the formula to identify which of Jesus messages that is true? If you do, kindly share that formula with us. On another note, I was wondering what female suicide bombers would receive after their successfully accomplishing their “jihad “mission? Only men can't just be rewarded. Allah is not partial or is he? 11 Likes |
| Re: The Challenges Of Igbo Muslims by Lollycutie(f): 2:33pm On Aug 05, 2012 |
Sweetnecta: we have to accept that christianity was not the first religion of the igbos. paganism was. i am guessing when christianity began to creep in, there were back room talks of it being foreign, not natural to the igbo animist spirit. and today, the igbos are calling themselves christian people. i need to let you guys know that there are igbo muslims on nairaland and they are not seeking contracts or favors from any nigerians. i know igbo muslims in my own life, members of my family. islam will enter igbo blood whether you are ready for it or not. it will both home and abroad, abroad meaning "far away land". the civil war headed Gowon for the Nigerian Government and Ojukwu for the part that wanted to leave the union. Both men were christians! to me, it was christian war, through and through and i was alive then, unlike those who the incident was related to..u are blaspheming,may God give u the grace to contribute tyns u know abot and not open ur mouth to blab. |
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