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budaatum:
To negotiate a deal.

Lmao

budaatum:
I can't really blame you. The below is from dump's last night speech.

He says, "negotiate", but see what Telegraph tells you to hear.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/03/04/donald-trump-congress-address-ukraine-aid-russia-war-live/

Have you read what Zelenskyy actually said? This is crazy on your part.

Zelensky said what Telegraph implied.

Regarding the agreement on minerals and security, Ukraine is ready to sign it in any time and in any convenient format. We see this agreement as a step toward greater security and solid security guarantees, and I truly hope it will work effectively.

That's Zelenskyy's words

budaatum:
To negotiate a deal.

Same source... Shows you are just straight up making up crap

Why it matters: The deal is designed to allow the U.S. to tap some of Ukraine's immense mineral wealth and to spur post-war development in the country. But the meeting will bring together two leaders who were publicly feuding just last week, with Trump calling Zelensky a "dictator" and Zelensky claiming Trump was swallowing Russian disinformation.

The latest: Zelensky told reporters in Kyiv on Wednesday that the minerals deal with the U.S. is a framework agreement that will be followed with a detailed agreement about the joint U.S.-Ukrainian fund to be established for the potential revenue from the minerals.

He said the agreement doesn't mention anything about Ukraine repaying any debt to the US.
Zelensky added that the deal will be signed at a ministerial level and the details of his possible trip to Washington on Friday are still being worked out.

budaatum:
The thing with you you is you claim media tells us what to believe then you refuse to think.



And not, Zelensky said he has agreed to visit the White House to sign a deal. The Zelensky we have heard say a deal without security is no deal.

And then, two sources .......



Is that not enough for doubt? After "two weeks of tense negotiations" we were still hearing them arguing the day before?

Then Zelensky turned up and did not agree to sign a deal dump proposed, and the arguing was live. But it is now Axios that you decide knew better, than Zelensky who did not agree to sign a deal?

Let me go ask doge to find payments to them. Maybe it might help.

Doubt what? See how disingenuous you are.

What did he go to the white house to do?

budaatum:
It is you who does not understand Axios, bem, because the below tells me they are negotiating and haven't reached a deal.

No... The Axios article said this

Two sources close to the Ukrainian government told Axios the deal was agreed on Tuesday after two weeks of tense negotiations.

https://www.axios.com/2025/02/25/ukraine-minerals-deal-signed-zelensky-trump

budaatum:
I think the fault is in how you reason.

A deal is usually when two people agree terms, and not when dump announces his terms are agreed with.

How you see it is like say I call you are a si, and claim you agree.

Do we?

Talk Talk announce a deal, you go to them and sign contract. They tell you about the deal through an advert.

You did not partake in crafting that deal, you only go there to accept the deal.

So you are trying to shift goal post. It won't kill you if you are wrong.

According to your logic, a deal does not exist until 2 people agree to a term 😂😂😂

Axios does not understand what a deal is only you.

Two sources close to the Ukrainian government told Axios the deal was agreed on Tuesday after two weeks of tense negotiations.

https://www.axios.com/2025/02/25/ukraine-minerals-deal-signed-zelensky-trump

basilico:
This is $2 billion for works already completed by Feb 2025. The order doesn't block future USAID it's but leaves a windows for further lawsuits.
If part of $2 billion was fraudulent then who's responsible

It does not.

I posted it so people will see trump Supreme Court do the right thing all the time

IjeBos:
Only idiots like you fall for this performative politics.
Trump cuts cancer research yet gives a child which cancer an award. Let's clap.
Trump releases J6 convicted felons who beat down cops, but praises the kid of a fallen police officer. Let's clap.
Trump just had the Tate's released, has been credibly accused of rape, has people on his staff accused of Rape and Domestic Violence yet cheers the family of a 12 year old who was raped and murdered.

His propaganda is solely for idiots like yourself.
Keep clapping for him like the buffoon you are.

Lying POS lol

BREAKING: US Supreme Court has denied Trump‘s emergency bid to cancel nearly $2 billion in USAID spending - CBS

These guys

raumdeuter:
I mean you watched the joy on the boy and his fathers face and next thing you can think is that you hope he doesnt commit suicide
You can see how high Liberal men and women are on the depression chart



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That's the nonsense cococandy was watching as she was spewing Rachel maddow's nonsense here

raumdeuter:
Never seen such a disgraceful display like the Democrats pulled yesterday

Democrats wouldn't clap for the families of Jocelyn Nungaray a 12yr old rapped and murdered, Laken Riley raped nd murdered, the 13-year-old DeeJay Daniel who survived brain cancer, or the kid of a fallen police officer admitted into West point.

The only time Democrats applauded was when Trump mentioned the money sent to Ukraine

They are all bitter and evil.

https://x.com/catturd2/status/1897274538456752529?s=19

raumdeuter:
The mother of 12-year-old Jocelyn Nungaray, who was slain by an illegal, just SLAMMED Democrats for refusing to clap for her family as well as Laken Riley’s, calling them COWARDS

“This was VERY shameful for the Democrats.”

“Democrats don’t stand for ANYTHING humane. They don’t stand for us citizens. They don’t stand for our security. They don’t stand for honorable things we need in this country.

It’s DISGUSTING.”

Its crazy. When I say the democrats love criminals more than anything I was not joking. In Boston where Oldman IjeBos resides, the major was sending condolences to a man who got killed by an off duty cop as he was chasing 2 young people with knife. Her focus was on the criminal who was trying to take the lives of two people.

cococandy:
He’s deliberately leaving out the part where majority of the speech watchers are republicans so of course majority of them will approve. They’ve shown they’ll approve of him lusting after his daughter, bragging about sexually harassing women and inspecting half dressed women some of who teenagers on his pageant. What’s new?

The poll was open for the whole country.
CBS is a leftist bobble network
Remain bitter

GloriousGbola:
any politically experienced nigerian is familiar with the trump administration

performative morality,
celebration of MOUs
capture of judiciary and senate
complete control of security apparatus
loyalty based political appointments
power drunk with no respect for rule of law
vicious pettiness

And her side-chick with trump derangment syndrome all the way from naija 😂

Any time I see ur moniker, I see Dylan mulvaney

cococandy:
Like northern alhaji’s taking away youth improvement programs from the youth in their communities then hosting events to hand them alms on camera for their own personal praise and aggrandizement. Same vibes

Are you always bitter?
God abeg, a wife like you is suicide

Ibime:
I hope he cleared this with Dear Leader whose Govt put pressure on Romania to release them

You and your conspiracy theories

Florida Attorney General @JamesUthmeierFL says he's opened criminal investigation of Tate brothers, @Cobratate & @TateTheTalisman:

"These guys have themselves publicly admitted to participating in what very much appears to be soliciting, trafficking, preying upon women..."

DeSantis 👍👍

Ibime:
No need beating a dead horse since both Dems and Reps were in that meeting and Zelensky has been consistent on security guarantee before and after. So you colour it through your lens if you want, it's neither here nor there.

Good you admitted that Susan Rice didn't speak to him, but your brothers swore they saw video of her claiming she spoke to him. Ask them which Qanon account they got that from.

I don't see how he was in the same meeting with both Dems are Reps but the Reps failed to say he is not going to sign the deal before or after the meeting.

He has not been consistent. The reason he went to the white house was to sign a deal he agreed he is gonna sign. That's a flip flop.

He thought he was still dealing with Biden everyone was taking for granted

Ibime:
You are mad. So they should deny the wildest fantasies of a bored Karen housewife who has been community noted on her conspiracy theories by Elon himself

Yeah let's discourage our people away from editorial oversight of "legacy media" so we can retweet old housewives tales till it becomes true

You left the other arguments where your lies or attempt of deceit were being picked apart.

Susan rice didn't but the dems ask him not to sign that deal

basilico:
Ijebos. Notice the "us" and "this". In the structural construction of that verb conjugation

Sometime I can't just help to pile it on.

unpatriotic people like cococandy and ijebos will say Trump started a trade war. But Canada has tariffs on all this before trump's tariffs took effects.

Milk: 270%
Cheese: 245%
Butter: 298%
Chicken: 238%
Sausages: 69.9%
Barley seed: 57.8%
Bovine/meat: 26.5%
Cars: 25%
HVAC: 45%
Vacuums: 35%
Cable boxes: 35%
TVs: 45%
Steel: 25%
Aluminum: 45%
Copper: 48%

The left, sad people

MSNBC hire pigs

MSNBC’s Nicole Wallace politicizes a young boy fighting cancer.

“I hope he never has to defend the United States capitol against Donald Trump's supporters.”

Sickening pic.twitter.com/DwLTbEORLI

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) March 5, 2025

basilico:
She said yes to 5 more years of Ukraine war.
A Rutgers JD holder, taught at Penn Law and Harvard, author of 12 books and over 100 articles.
Wants Ukraine to continue fighting a war where net gains are loss of territory at the height of massive military aid from every western country.
I'm getting something wrong.

She is crazy

cococandy:
International embarrassment

Anyone with sense would be saying these entitled countries that are taking us for a spin should be grateful. you hate this country so much that you never take its side on anything.

Trump to a jab on Pocahontas

Android17:
Ask your guy if Bipartisan (more like Unipartisan) detracts from the fact that Chris Murphy mentioned the bottomline of the meeting:

- to confirm Zelensky was going to reject the peace agreement BEFORE meeting Trump.

Tell them to explain it. Then same Susan Rice goes on MSNBC to say without a doubt Trump and JD planned it. Think about it.

If they knew he was going to reject the agreement why then also say WITHOUT a doubt, Trump and Vance ambushed Zelensky.

That's the type of foolish argument the media can give them, and they'll just swallow it. No questions asked.

But then turn around and call you a guzzler of lies. The irony.

They simp for simpletons. It's sad to say

Ibime in addition to my response to you.

Zelensky did not agree to the deal till he agreed. So your post and source of Zelenskyy not agreeing is outdated.

Two sources close to the Ukrainian government told Axios the deal was agreed on Tuesday after two weeks of tense negotiations.

Check the date. It's 25 feb 5days after your time line. I won't say you are lying. But keep trying
Budaatum you continue to assert no agreement was reached

https://www.axios.com/2025/02/25/ukraine-minerals-deal-signed-zelensky-trump

Ibime:
I think you're the one with comprehension problem. "Zelensky confirmed he won't accept a fake peace agreement without security guarantee" which he told them all, and he went there to negotiate a security guarantee thinking it's a conversation about security rather than just a mineral deal. No peace agreement had been discussed, only mineral deal. So nobody told him anything, he said what he wants, same thing he said to Lyndsey Graham a week before.

Your time line does not make sense.

What you posted is 8 days before the meeting. That's February 20th, before the 28th Zelenskyy agreed to sign a deal. Again, you are posting crap

IjeBos:
Nothing more foolish than a 419er spending his life pretending he lives in the US.

You are the one taking photos of a meal a man bought for you on a date. You are 52 years old 😂

Ibime:
Will you shut up Comproboko boy. The first thing Lindsey Graham said in his press conference after the fallout was that he and his senate colleagues met with Zelensky and the Ukrainian delegation. Which part of Chris Murphys tweet says Zelensky was told anything, as if Ukrainians don't know what they want, and can't express what they want, which is security.

Do you have comprehension problem?

Again, before the meeting, I did not see Republicans posting and bragging about meeting with Zelenskyy and he confirmed he will reject the deal.

Why would he confirm with democrats if they did not have the talk?

Use your head bro. You simp too much for dems