Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 11:31pm On May 22 |
DeepSight: I am in the mood - Here you are. . .
And these are the very things you spent pages denouncing as excuses. Abi you forgot to remove this from the AI draft?
I said -
And Madam C added -
So are you joking or what.
If anything this just proves what a waste of time engaging you is. It is a shame that you and C lack basic comprehension. I told you exactly what you would do: take my post in isolation, remove the context, and pretend I said something different. And that is exactly what you did. You quoted this part: My point is still that education matters, history matters, racism matters, colonialism matters, institutions matter. But you deliberately ignored the two main BUTs in my argument: But internal choices also matter. Leadership matters. Culture matters. Accountability matters. Family structure matters. Greed and selfishness matter. and the other. That is the context. My argument has never been that climate, history, colonialism, racism, or education have zero effect. My argument is that they do not answer the present question of why many African countries are still badly governed, badly maintained, corrupt, tribalistic, and underdeveloped in 2026. See through this example: Gravity makes flight difficult, so gravity matters. We humans did not sit down and say, “gravity is a root factor, so flying is impossible.” We used intelligence, science, engineering, to build a mechanism to overcome it. That is the point. Climate may create difficulty, just like gravity creates difficulty. But serious societies respond with technology, planning, discipline, institutions, and accountability. Unserious societies turn every difficulty into an excuse. Many of the climate barriers you are talking about had already been conquered by technology before most African countries gained independence. You can continue to be ignorant and accept failure because you are normalizing it. Don't just cry when people look at Africa and call it a sheet ole. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 10:07pm On May 22 |
DeepSight: I am not the one who spent forever shouting "excuses!" only to come here and admit that the said excuses matter and then remain daft enough to fail to see that I have ceded the entire debate. If they ask you to prove this you know you can't. When you read or take information in isolation, you will never know the context of it. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:37pm On May 22*. Modified: 10:05pm On May 22 |
bayelsaowei: Yeshua, Yahweh etc.. Ayeba, Olorun, Chineke, etc
English is just one of the languages in the world..
Stop this worship game you’re playing.. Way to sidestep from the question asked. English is just one language in the world - facts but answer the question, forget shifting the goalpost for a second |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:17pm On May 22 |
bayelsaowei: Hmmm..
I Dey my own o. You go call Trump.
😃😀. When will you drop Jesus or Jehovah, since our colonizers also brought that along? Do you benefit from Jesus, Jehovah, the Bible, and the Gospel, or are they automatically bad because they came through colonial history? You know better, don't argue for the sake of it like Deepsight. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:08pm On May 22 |
bayelsaowei: Did I mention Trump?
🙄🙄 Did I say you did? I am only begging you not to go there because I am anticipating your next goalpost shifting. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:06pm On May 22 |
budaatum: I don't know how many times I need to repeat to you that Nigeria failed because of ignorance, and not because of colonialism.
For your information, I took books from the supposed colonisers to colonise my own people. And no, that is not me in the picture as I was the camera person. You should be shouting this to DeepSight, not me. I am not disputing this at all. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:05pm On May 22 |
budaatum: Listen to yourself. In one sense you claim I am "not stupid enough to say nothing good came out of it", and in the other you claim I "talk about the suffering and selfish nature of it" like both can not be true, though I do not quite know what suffering, apart from slavery, you might be refering to.
The colonisers did not colonise us for our own benefit but for theirs, but I could argue we might still be killing twins or all be Muslims, since Muslims colonised us first.
Perhaps post links to where "You and I have discussed this many times" so you can be seen not to be lying. You should listen to yourself because you are reading faster then your brain can process. You critique colonialism, you are the champion of it as far as this thread is concern. You are not stupid enough to say you did not benefit from the English Language that you speak. That is my point. I have made the case time and time again that colonialism is bad, our ancestors suffered. I also argued about the benefits that came out of it. No one said they did it for our benefit, it does not mean we did not benefit anyway (in this case or context the language we speak). |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:59pm On May 22 |
IjeBos: Bwahahahahaha I think you've made my point about you not having a proper basis in English and that being the reason you use ChatGPT "anyway" is not "any way". "anyway" means "regardless or nonetheless" "any way" means "in any manner" The proper usage is what I wrote. "any way you slice it" or "in any manner you slice it"
You are such an uneducated Joker A normal person would run away and hide like tctrills did. But you, nah. You mean Grammarly which says you have 4 mistakes this time. Just like I said earlier, remain pained.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:48pm On May 22 |
budaatum: Why must you always lie, ben?
Where did buda "champion in criticising colonialism", which buda knows was inevitable? Or do you not know that Britain was colonised by Rome?
So you know, the smarter would always colonise the less smart. And it is the less smart's fault for being less smart. Also, it is stupid to colonise the colonisers in the language of the coloniser. And for your information, I'd be dead if I hadn't run from my colonised home to my colonisers home.
Here is a thread about colonialism. Read it and know buda's view instead of making up lies to believe! You and I have discussed this many times. You critique it, you talk about the suffering and selfish nature of it, that's criticism. You are not stupid enough to say nothing good came out of it, even the language (English) that you speak. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:44pm On May 22 |
bayelsaowei: You think I am picking a side? I am saying what and how I feel.
Your obeisance to colonizers is alarming..
You are the one on a path to lunacy.. Nobody is worshipping colonizers. You throw it words like this easily. Saying English is useful as a common language is not obeisance. It's the truth, a basic reality. You are attacking English while using English to communicate your argument. Are you serious? Our ancestors suffered under colonialism, yes. That does not mean every single thing that came through that history has zero practical value today. We can test that by how you communicate with me. Have ever written a memorandum in your place of work in ijaw? Why not? What about your Thesis? Christianity, the Bible, the Gospel, and your awareness of Jehovah and Jesus also spread widely in Africa through the same colonial-era channels. Are you going to drop your religion too? Or do you accept that something can come through a painful historical process and still become useful or meaningful to people today? Stop arguing nonsense, you know better. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:31pm On May 22 |
bayelsaowei: You think I am picking a side? I am saying what and how I feel.
Your obeisance to colonizers is alarming..
You are the one on a path to lunacy.. Yes, you are not a dumb person. You are picking a side. It's the only way to explain this, otherwise it's a shame. Before you jump to Trump or my support for Trump, this is not about Trump. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:29pm On May 22 |
bayelsaowei: So I should thank the white man and colonialism for teaching me English, because without it I would struggle to communicate. Goalpost shifted. I never said we should thank the white man. Where did I say that? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:22pm On May 22 |
TV01: Ekemefune, you are back...missed you . The only person I enjoy trolling more than ShallowVision is you.
Please sir, what is Igbo for "mitosis", or Yoruba for "chromosomes"? How about the Ijaw word for "Autophagy"? What native Nigerian language had a scientific lexicon? How would speakers of native Nigerian languages have engaged in scientific discourse?
In the absence of "misadventure" from the west. or the use of their language, what scientific engagement did African tribes have, or could have in their native tongues?
If English had not come to us by way of colonisation, to even begin to partake of the technological advancement of the more developed nations we would have had to use their language? How would Nigeria develop a common language? I see Fula may be on the cards .
Colonisation was damaging, but not wholesale without benefit. Keep using it as a reason for not advancing.
How's the market in vibranium (sorry I forget i's indigenous name) . Wakanda ko, Zamunda ni.
TV My issue is with Bayelsaowei, who I believe is a very smart person, siding with this lunacy for the sake of picking a side. Budaatum, who is a champion in criticising colonialism, recognized its benefits. These people can't help themselves. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:10pm On May 22 |
IjeBos: You use chatgpt to write forum posts. You're a world class joker any way you slice it. I feel you, bro. The pain 😂 Grammarly says you have spelling mistakes here and there. Should I fix it for you? 🤣😂
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:07pm On May 22 |
 budaatum: [b]Yes, I would call that ignorance, and deceitfulness for their own selfish benefit. Those who are not ignorant are not selfish, and they know their actions have negative consequences for themselves. [/b]Unfortunately, we Nigerians have not yet learned to ensure those consequences are inevitable, so dishonesty pays some.
Education, as in, proper beneficial mind using education, will enable us to put measures in so the right behaviour is rewarded and the wrong behaviour is paid for.
Do note that you are talking about the education of an individual, while I am talking about our collective ignorance. Currently, if I ignorantly steal all Nigeria's money and take it to my Orolu Kingdom, my own ignorant people would likely make me king. If we were knowledgeable they'd stone me. This is bad 😳😳😳 Budaatum, go through your logic or reasoning again and tell me if it makes sense. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:57pm On May 22 |
IjeBos: You already admitted you use chatgpt. It's clear most of your recent posts have been using chatgpt.
I'm more curious as to why the AI is spitting out what it is than anything you can ever pretend to say. Hmm. I feel your pain. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:50pm On May 22 |
IjeBos: I don't think what Bemeruca is writing here matters. It's clearly AI, so he probably doesn't even understand it.
The question is why is the AI model generating these responses. There are tons of bias in this post esp. regarding Israel. Is Bemeruca interjecting that bias to get these responses or is it the AI's model that has these predisposed biases.
Bemeruca, can you show us the prompts you are entering into AI? Curious. AI is biased about Israel 😂😂😂 I don't expect anything tangible from you, all I see is your Peter Pan syndrome in full display. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:44pm On May 22 |
bayelsaowei: So without English we would not be able to communicate to each other?
I don’t understand…
So my ijaw language I use in communicating is ineffectual or not beneficial? Of course you don't. Without cars, we were able to travel from point A to point B; that does not mean that cars are not beneficial. You use it to communicate with whom? Hausa? He or she is going to need a translator or learn your language, but do not expect the same Hausa man or woman to learn the remaining 98 languages. Imagine living in a country like this with over 100 ethnic languages, and we have to have a university unique to each language in its respective location villages, etc. Bayelsa alone has various tribes with different languages. I am baffled by how you guys reason. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:34pm On May 22 |
basilico: Wow. No words. And some will ask "if you have been to America" 😂 |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:43pm On May 22 |
budaatum: You obviously have no clue what I am talking about, and nor do I expect you to. I know what you are talking about. You are just oversimplifying things. If someone publicly talks about corruption, the damage corruption does. Rally against thieves, says all the right things about accountability, sees the benefit of stopping corruption but when he enters office, he uses that same office to steal - that's Nigeria's situation. Will you call that Ignorance?You are acting as if once people use their minds, or let to use it, a magically spell has been introduced, they will automatically become honest. We as humans do not work like that. People can know the right thing and still do the wrong thing. People can understand morality and still choose evil. People can understand consequences for society and still act for themselves. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:28pm On May 22 |
Democrats don't know the Declaration of Independence, even MSNBC news anchors. Anytime they hear "God", their skin burns
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:42pm On May 22 |
budaatum: Actually, it is being ignorant and uneducated. But I guess by "educated" you mean formal education, and not the sort of education that promotes mind use.
People who are educated to use their minds would see more benefit for themselves and society in not being corrupt, greedy, tribalistic, racist, selfish, or dishonest, for those are things the ignorant do, "educated" or not.
You have no clue what you are talking about. This is you oversimplifying things. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:15am On May 22 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 8:05pm On May 21 |
The people are angry, Kier.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:29pm On May 21 |
budaatum: You've been called dishonest enough times already, so I am not surprised in the least that you'd project your opinion on to others. He didn't, you are the one projecting your fetish on him. If you want slavery back just be one. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:25pm On May 21 |
DeepSight: Hahahahahahahahaha! Shame!
You are ashamed! You deny the mans exact words! No, you are just a liar |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:19pm On May 21 |
DeepSight: I honestly don't know how you reason. Analyzing a matter is a spectrum from cause to situation to correction. As I said with my analogy of the stages of a man's life. Here you are simply saying we should only analyse with the future in mind and throw away the past, the causes, and even the present reality. I am tired of your games. You don't throw away the past because you learn from it. If we'd learned anything from the past, it should be not to treat each other as second-class citizens and loot. Isn't that what we blamed our colonializers for, they looted our resources. Please move on from your delusion. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:16pm On May 21 |
DeepSight: Don't you agree with Kirk that blacks were better off without equal rights again? Grab the lie very hard, it is like oxygen to you. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:15pm On May 21 |
budaatum: Do I want slavery back, or is this just you being "maths is racist" as usual? I am doing what you just did to raumdeuter. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:14pm On May 21 |
budaatum: I guess we should bring slavery back then. Though I doubt many would like to return to a period when the slaves wives and daughters were impregnated by masta for stock to be sold. Why do you want slavery back? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:01pm On May 21 |
DeepSight: Progress is being made albeit slowly and painfully and in a scattered and disjointed manner. In some sectors there is stagnation and regression but overall the trajectory still is forward. There is a lot to be done and improved on, we need to get our ideology and politics right as a starter as so much depends on right leadership.
On a practical note, if anyone asks me, I will say the key to the future is aggressive industrialization.
On a dreamy and idealist note, I will like to see Africa unite. A United States of Africa was a dream of several independence pan-Africanists such as Kwame Nkrumah, Julius Nyerere, Robert Mugabe and Nnamdi Azikiwe and even became a dream of Ghadaffi.
If we are able to achieve it, and I concede it looks very unlikely - men, that is the single thing that will bring Africa to the table with real weight. So we are back to what I have been saying? This is basically a concession to my point. After all the long talk about climate, colonialism, geography, and history, White man, your own solution is not changing or addressing any of that. Your solution is about leadership, ideology, politics, industrialization, and African unity. Hmmm, everyone's been trying to bang this points into your head. Aggressive industrialization and unity are good points. So you proved my argument: Africa’s future depends mainly on what Africans choose to build now, maintain and how they think about the future, their brothers and their unborn children. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:00am On May 21 |
DeepSight: And oh. Corruption remains a global phenomenon.
And oh. Sango awaits. How does it explain Nigeria's situation? |