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budaatum:
This is the reason I disagree with my I live in America friend. I don't create some imaginary fear and start fighting it.

When anyone terrorises in UK we don't just turn our heads and let them be. Though, in contradiction of that, go read up about terrorist IRA and Sinn Fein their political wing who now can sit in parliament, to understand how complex the law can sometimes be.

the fear is not imaginary. they are telling you what is coming and they are also showing snippets of what is coming.

budaatum:
You should ask the West why it took them so long.

Perhaps its because they did not have enough weapons yet considering they were not prepared for war.

Go study the Hitler War. It took the West a long time to attack Hitler's Germany too. In fact, Britain waited until Hitler had occupied France all of most of Europe, and was just across the Channel before they attacked Germany.

they have the weapons, but they restrict their use. the restriction was Ukraine only use them inside Ukraine, which was a waste of time and money. All those weapons they have been giving to Ukraine were a waste. if they did the right thing from the start, the war should have ended by now, who knows?

this scenario is different. we are talking about the survival of Ukraine here. Hitler overran nations before Britain entered. they should learn from that and not allow Russia to overrun Ukraine from the get-go. Now it will be difficult to retake the grounds Russia took.

budaatum:
Who are they not considered extremist by? You?

I consider them murderers, which I think is far worse than considering them extremists. Unfortunately, I don't get to make the laws in Pakistan. If I did make the law in Pakistan, and if they were tried and found guilty, I'd make sure their penalty is death too. And not because they killed a Christian, but for the simple fact they killed a human being.

Well, you can see children involved in killing a man.
In Palestine, they are always innocent even if they have held guns before their 10th bday and waged war on Israel. when they get to 16 to 19 and die in the war while carrying RPGs they will be recorded as innocent children. that's not to say innocent children are not dying, they are. War is shit.
people with this belief that you will die if you are seen as blasphemous are in the UK. it is just a matter of time when they feel they have the numbers.

@budaatum, it took a lot of time but now the West has grown some balls and lifted the restriction from Ukraine to hit inside Russia. Russia can only advance if Ukraine is only defending and the Russians will keep throwing men as destructions and death rise. Only if Russia can feel the pressure inside Russia they will think of a truce. Ukraine can now demand Russians pull out else, they can only let Russia keep what they have before and call for peace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDwdgBgYOK8

budaatum:
What regular Joes? My knowledgeable live in America friend has said here that no one would have been charged with this crime if their name was not Biden, so there can't be any regular Joes to compare his sentence with.

leave Ijebosb alone. he makes me laugh.

ijebosb:
This is a bad outcome. Hunter Biden was treated worse than anybody whose name wasn't Biden.

1.) This case is rarely every brought outside of someone suing the gun to commit a felony.
2.) Every American who smokes weed and buys a gun would be held to the same account. They are not.
3.) They immunized the gun store owner who sold Hunter the gun who forged the gun forms. Imagine a similar situation where a drug/gun dealer gets immunized so their testimony can be used to prosecute a drug/gun buyer. What governmental policy does that move forward?

Biden should have fired this Trump appointed prosecutor when he became President. Democrats always try to hard to seem fair and they always get screwed by it.

@budaatum, last week, this man was killed for blasphemy. this is Pakistan and all the people you see are not considered extremists. they are normal people who think they can kill you just like that. the man is a Christian. this is something that happens all the time all over the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPPPtoPPuvE

budaatum:
Well, they failed. Hunter Biden is guilty.

Good. The point is Biden's DOJ is weaponized and they failed in their corruption. thank God some other systems are still working. But again, will his sentencing align with the regular Joe(s) who were in the same boat?

budaatum:
Biden weaponised DOJ against Biden!

it's not like they did not try to give him immunity.

budaatum:
Same as they did nothing when Tommy Robinson makes his threats?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j7IX_5a_9M?si=53NbbrC8I2phT5Zm

stop lying. that was 12 years ago. He has been arrested, gone to prison, sent to court, banned from places and he has not mentioned he is going to kill anyone. You saw the police in the video you posted trying to get to him as he spoke.
Compare that to the video I sent you.
there is a reason Germans are getting fed up too. same issue, Rape, and discrimination even though they are the minority and foreigners, they see the Germans as second-class people. you can go and check crime and rape stats in Germany, Sweden, etc. that took all these Muslims. then ask why Qatar, Saudi Arabia, etc. refuse to take them.

they openly say that when the time comes, everyone will be under Shariah.

You said MTG cannot say the things she is saying in the US, which are mostly anti-immigration stuff. But if you can find where she is making death threats let me know. At least you see that the FREE SPEECH YOU CLAIMED THE UK HAVE IS SELECTIVE. ALSO, THE FREE SPEECH YOU CLAIM THEY DO NOT HAVE IS SELECTIVE AS WELL.

@budaatum, see your police, right in their face someone is making death threat and they do nothing. You just have to be the right race, with the right manufactured gender and religion. Then you will get away with almost anything you say. But you will call someone who is fighting back or exposing this fascists.
Tommy can just dine at a restaurant and he will he harassed by police while same police protect people vandalising public property.

London — a violent mob of Arabs led by Mohammed Hijab was walking the streets and screaming about hunting Jews and spilling Jewish bl00d — and the UK police, who have been known to arrest people for “hate crimes” for opinions alone, did nothing.pic.twitter.com/Jc86JzkOqD

— Marina Medvin 🇺🇸 (@MarinaMedvin) June 10, 2024

One thing I know about Muslims is that they hardly condemn their own.

More Muslims joined ISIS than they Royal Army. More and more will be speaking out as their numbers increase and they feel emboldened. This is how they roll.

ijebosb:
I don't care what you discuss, I just care that your discussing it from a place of knowledge. And so let me be honest, some of things you say aren't said from a place of knowledge. Facts, wrong, law wrong, culture wrong. These are objective things. Less so than Bemeruca and Basilico, but still objectively wrong on some things. And then I have to tip-toe around it because at my core I don't like telling people they are wrong or calling people out unless they are dycks. A place where you're creeping up on.

And to be frank, I think it's the height of pride to argue that you can know something without experiencing it. Maybe it's the scientific side of me, but I couldn't. I would need to immerse myself and study something fully until I wouldn't feel like a fraud or inauthentic talking about it. And so what is my goal? Is it to be right or gain knowledge. For me it's to gain knowledge.



You like these down low insults don't you? Leave them alone. Let's leave who reads what alone as well. I don't like listening to most of Fox News because the arguments are weak and made for dumb people. It's propaganda and so doesn't broaden my horizon and wastes my time. It offers 0 value to me. I can get the sum of that by reading a headlineon National Review let alone the article.

What you are doing here is arguing against education/experience. The believe that you can understand something or know something second hand. But what you are doing is understanding that thing from the perspective of the medium you are watching/reading. A friend of mine got her PHD in french literature, spent years in France. Why was that necessary? Why didn't she read the stuff in a book? I find this argument you are making hard to understand.

You And your boyfriend budaatum should get a room.

ijebosb:
See, I'm currently on Mars.
Well, that is based on how you define proof.. lol.
This idiot really posted a screen shot of him lying to people that he is in the US as proof that he is in the US.
Your 419 is weak.

how is Mars? I was there last year. which city on mars though?

basilico:
How did he make the public hate muslims.
Liar. What did he say?
Bloody liar.

Budaatum is a special kind of Simp

ijebosb:
I never understood Internet fraudsters before. Or people who get caught lying and continue to gaslight. Mind blown.
I guarantee you are lying about living in the US, for some 419 fraud.
Fear Bemeruca and liars like Bemeruca.

See the photo I took near the Supreme Court.

budaatum:
You took your time, lol.

Guess I got to leave you to it then. Its silly though, very.

Hahahaha I called it

IjeBosb, just Bleep off, you are sick, not well at all.

budaatum:
Tommy Robinson was not exposing anything of the sort, you liar. What he was doing was asking his followers to hate Muslims because some Muslims were found grooming. Funny though how he ignores the white groomers who just happen to be the majority groomers.

You really are a waste of space and time.

You are the liar. He did not ask his followers to hate anyone. He was exposing them and that made him popular. I don't know what is wrong with you. You choose a grooming gang over the guy exposing them.

budaatum:
You showed me a video of Tommy Robinson being cautioned, and only if you know nothing about him would you be surprised that he wasn't arrested on the spot!

Below are just some of his crimes. Others are insighting hatred against Jews and blacks and Muslims, as you'd find in the source previously posted.

Which is why they were harassing him. He told them to arrest him if he did anything wrong. So since they didn't arrest him, he was not doing anything wrong

budaatum:
More on the rhetorical? Really? That's what that stupid idiot does, and he too claims there's points behind it. See him posting that fascist racist ex-convict Tommy Robinson as evidence for free speech. Its like posting Kkk to prove how well blacks are loved in America.

I'm going to ignore your appeal to being holier than thou. It is patronisingly condescending and beneath me.

Budaatum hates the guy who exposes child grooming more than the predators. This is not new for you.

But we saw what happened in Germany and France lately. I guess more and more people are becoming fascists. I wonder why.

The other day you attacked libs of TikTok for reposting a video a child groomer made. Libs of TikTok bad... Child groomer victim according to you.

ijebosb:
Holy shit, you are really really invested in this lie.
A person who was telling the truth would post a passport, a flight ticket a pic of them in the US, like the ones I've posted.
Instead, you post personal chats with Jayedna and Obum, revealing their personal info, where you are lying to them, telling them you are in the US.
Lol.

You are fuxing nut. That ish is undeniable now. Lol

Then take my challenge. I know you will die once you see it. I am challenging you on that.

ijebosb:
Listen, I wonder if Jayedna has ever seen pictures of you in the US.
I doubt she believes you. Look at your response to her.

Tell me you don't really live in Seattle without telling me. As if everyone walks around talking about politics
I bet she would love to know you are running 419 on her and posting your chats with her to run other 419s. Lol.

You're a bigger nut than I thought. I assumed this was a Nairaland meant lie. But you're spreading this lie in your real life as well.
You one fuxing broken person.

Stop crying, try and get some sleep 🤣

ijebosb:
Bwahhhaha.. So, you lie to your friends as well. Bwahahahahah.
To prove he wasn't lying he posted screenshots of him lying to other people. Lol. You are legit degenerate. People should fear you.

What type of 419 loser goes around telling people they are in a country they are not. Lol. Holy shit you are a nut.

Let's recap the lies you told from my previous post. After I got your IP after you clumsily tried to hack my work pc and found out you were in Surrey, it was easy enough to figure where the pictures you posted were from.
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-2024-elections/4105#129289908

1.) This is a pic you posted of where you supposedly stayed the first night you supposedly landed in the "USA". Notice the bus stops I circled. Now, in every local/city/state/country, the bus stops signs are different, and of course different from country to country. So which city/country uses this Bus stop sign you may ask? Lol.. None other than Surrey British Columbia, Canada. Lol
https://www.nairaland.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-2024-elections/3789#122962336
2.) This is the Pic of the Bus stop sign from the Surrey website (circled in Red). Notice the similarities - they are the same. Lol
3.) The Bus Stop from his original picture blown up.

You gonna take the challenge or not 😎

ijebosb:
After posting the pictures of your Canadian motel:



Yeah, a crappy motel in Canada would be a blah place. Lol.
This is comedy.

You nut.
I bet you were proud of yourself after fooling Basilico and all the other idiots in this thread into believing you were in the US. lol

Are you gonna take my challenge?
This will give you a clue. Conversations from last year and early this year. But take up my challenge I will show you my passport

More junks for you to save on your phone. But my conversation with these beautiful ladies will pinpoint where I am for you. It's a clue.

ijebosb:
I can't imagine the broken and insecurity it takes to wake up everyday and lie about living in another country.

So let's try this again. Take it as me trying to help you, jolt you back to reality.
Here are the pictures that YOU posted on this site fromm the day you said you landed in the US. These aren't lies I made up. These are things YOU chose to post here to lie to and manipulate readers of this thread.
Tell us from these pictures when you actually landed in the US.

The picture of the crappy motel you posted and was in the US was actually in Canada. Do I need to post those receipts again?
The picture of you in the car you said was in the US was actually taking in a mall in Canada. Do I need to post those receipts again?
The car you said your company gave you belongs to the family that is hosting you. Do I need to post those receipts again?

You're a delusional person, a practiced liar and a bad one at that. A true nutcase.

But I do and this is what is keeping you up at night
you keep repeating yourself.

I will present the challenge to you again. If you want to know where I am and more about me, reveal yourself.
we know it is envy that is making you die on this matter and I like this state you find yourself. You are desperately trying to stay alive

ijebosb:
Listen, don't presume that because I abuse you because of your lies about living in the US, that you and I are on equal footing with the understanding of the US constitution or anything for that matter. Wtf do you know about the US Constitution or US courts, that you can presume to tell me about it?

If I need your opinion on how to be a degenerate, sound and wrike like an illiterate, be a dead-beat dad, clumsily steal Nairalander's IP addresses, or clumsily lie about being in the US, I'll ask. Otherwise stay in your lane your trollish buffoon.

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Take this first.
Yes I live in the United States, I am a dad you are not, gays are denerate and you are gay.
You sounded like a 3-year-old disregarding the constitution.

Isn't it ironic that Budaatum who lives in the UK is schooling you on US matters? How tempted are you to tell him he should keep quiet because he does not live in the US?

It's pride month, go spend time with your buddies. You are an underachieved noise maker on Nairaland who has a hard time with people's opinions or reality. At least, go drink Coke or Fanta in a Bar and take photos of it.

ijebosb:
How do votes count when the means of voting is corrupted? Say with gerrymandering? If I can choose how districts are drawn to water down certain votes, is the election really representative? I'm talking about structural impediments. Let's go further with another example, let's say we had an election where everyone voted 'like their livelihood' depended on it, but then a governor/state house decided to just select their own electors opposite of how the majority voted and the Supreme Court accepted it. Would you still say the democratic process works? Because that is a plausible situation given how some state constitutions are written to allow electors to be chosen and the Federal Constitution allows states to decide how to select their electors. I hear what you are saying from a idealized mile high perspective, but I'm arguing how easily things can change when you get into the weeds.

I think there is a real palpable fear right now about what is going on in the US, that is being expressed beyond just myself. Especially if the Supreme Court rules that a president is immune from prosecution.

You are not saying anything. You are only showing us all you have in common with MAGA

I think this will anger budaatum. The problem with you guys is your bias and hatred for the other side.

budaatum:
Your racist source says quite a lot about you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(activist)

I showed you a video about police harassing someone and your problem is the source.

This is why you were called a coward and a snake. How is it that the UK police protect jihadists protesting in the street but will arrest someone covering the protest?

There was a time when I said Muslims are trying to enforce sharia laws in the London by roaming the streets and harassing people, your default reaction was to try and deny it then make excuses for them.

@budaatum, islamist and people are allowed to roam the UK, calling for jihad and singing praise to terrorists, calling for the death of nations and are protected by the MetP... But a man who is there to cover the event as a journalist is the problem.
Do you think this is good? The way Europeans are fast tracking your own desolation is outstanding.

https://twitter.com/TRobinsonNewEra/status/1799881976222200031?t=2jBjd7BW37CNQB_OHOwo0A&s=19

Very selective freespeech. Only the LGBT and the other eastern minority groups are enjoying the largest share of freespeech. Every other group will have to take what is left.

ijebosb:
I think who we vote for is mattering less and less. The Supreme Court is filled with Right Wing pseudo Christian fascists, though the majority of Americans aren't. The House which should have direct Representation is Republican controlled, though by the Representative vote of America it should be Democratic controlled. The Senate is Democratic controlled barely, though the majority of America is more Democratic. The only branch that is representative of where the majority of the country is, is the Presidency.

So you keep speaking of this majority, whereas the country is more and more being run by the minority. And structural impediments are being erected to keep it that way. Such as gerrymandering.



Most may not, but if the Supreme Court pushes it back to states to decide, how many of those right wing states do you think would choose that? I'm sure there would be some like Alabama.
And here we go back to the privilege thing. My deep blue state of Massachusetts would be fine. But Massachussetts is very expensive. How many of those people in states like Alabama, if they do decide on some form of segregation, could afford to move to an expensive blue state? So, some people in these gerrymandered states, where some people have lost their representation, would be affected. Your argument is that those people are disposable and we shouldn't care about them, because people in my Blue state wouldn't be touched? I could argue they didn't work hard enough to fend off the issue, but then understand there is that privilege of mine, and not all those people have the ability nor resources to fight power.

Dude stop making noise. In life, not everyone will agree with you. What is a right-wing Christian fascist? Why do you bring the word Christian into this? How are they fascist? They make decisions according to the constitution and you don't like it so they are fascist? 🍼🍼🍼🍼🍼 Take one of these anytime you want to cry here.

People who don't want to live in shithole New York or California move to red states. The abortion laws have been shown to favour democrats since they moved to the States. That is a democracy, people are choosing what they want and if the state's policy does not align with their beliefs or wallet, they move.

What is wrong with you? Why do you always think like a spoilt 3 year old that will always get what he wants? Ice cannot act in New York or most blue states because of state laws. Is that not the same thing?

basilico:
France. Macron dissolves national parliament after winning 16% of the European parliament seats.
Le Penn party wins 32% .The other rightist party won 5%.

The media has been demonizing nationalist parties as far right parties, as if being far right is a crime.

Macron, Les Miserables. Do you hear the people sing.? Singing the songs of an angry man.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojoC-Kbzpo8

The people who preach to us every day how the Right or Far-Right want to murder democracy

budaatum:
Why are you so uneducated?

Is telling lies the same as telling lies about people and maligning them?

Is JK Rowling mentioning anyone?

Is posting swastikas not illegal in almost everywhere in Europe?

You really need to consider going to school and paying this time, because whatever free education you claim to have gotten did not teach you anything.

you tell me Compare your own words

budaatum:
UK does have freedom of expression. What we don't have is the freedom to go about telling lies and maligning others, which makes our notion of it very different to Americas.

If Marjorie Taylor Greene or you go about in UK telling the lies you both constantly tell about others, you'd both be treated like Alex Jones was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT0dWm0i1cI
who did this man mentioned?

JK Rowling is a special case that proves you like autocracy.

what the man posted and JK is a clear example that you guys don't have freedom of speech. so do say you have it one moment and you don't another moment. the US you can post it on your property or your social media and no police will visit your house.

There is not a single lie JK Rowling has said and yet they wanted to arrest her.

Scotland’s Hate Crime Act may have done us all a favour
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The police have been swamped with thousands of complaints, many vexatious, all of which they are pledged to investigate. JK Rowling has blown the doors off with her ‘arrest me’ tweets, but the First Minister, Humza Yousaf, attracted more hate crime complaints in the first two days than she did. SNP Ministers like Siobhan Brown have been ridiculed for misrepresenting their own law.

So it may come as a surprise that I now think the HCA may have been a rather good thing. Indeed, it may inadvertently have liberalised free speech and exposed the progressive authoritarians who seem who dominate political life in Scotland.

The police are now clearly hesitant of arresting anyone for hate crime in case it becomes a huge public row and leads to court action by women’s groups. The act outlaws ‘stirring up hatred’ against transwomen but gives no similar protection to biological women.

budaatum:
UK does have freedom of expression. What we don't have is the freedom to go about telling lies and maligning others, which makes our notion of it very different to Americas.

If Marjorie Taylor Greene or you go about in UK telling the lies you both constantly tell about others, you'd both be treated like Alex Jones was.

Lmao. The videos below, According to you, the UK is heaven where all the people who tell lies cannot enter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqS7js568-Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT0dWm0i1cI

raumdeuter:
Many states have put abortion on the ballot and the anti abortion laws lost even in deep red Kansas

So taking it to the state has been a good thing, In states where they want abortion they are supporting it with their votes and making it into law. Which is the essence of democracy

these people want autocracy or dictatorship.