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I'm so short of words. The youths aren't encouraged at all in this country. Wasn't it last year that a Corps member died during the election which made wike promised heaven and earth and still he hasn't fulfilled his promise?

The recent Corps members are aware of all these and yet some want to blame them for refusing to participate.

Has anyone seen the government raising the corpers who died during the last election? Can any of those speaking bad about the Corps members represent the dead ones in the lives of their parents?

If your answer is no then you have no right to speak ill of Corps members in Rivers state because you do not know what they go through.

Being surrounded by militants during elections with gun shots all around you, not to talk of those that carry ballot boxes by water and you'll see militants threatening with gun shots in their various speed boats.

You have no idea what Rivers state Corps members go through.

INEC officials can't be trusted, government representatives can't be trusted. Even our senators, governors, ministers and Almighty darling PMB can't be trusted and you're asking the Corps members to put their trust in such people?

They didn't ask to be paramilitary personnels, it was a mandatory thing they had to obey and it still is.

If the government can't provide heavy security for them, then I stand that no one has the right to force Corps members to obey any stupid clarion call. No one!

Ghana and Nigeria most times have the same fate. Like when Yar'Adua died and the VP, GEJ took over so it was when Atta Mills died and the VP Mahama took over.

Nana Addo is just like PMB when it comes to age and how often he has lost previous elections.

Nigeria voted for change last year and Nana Addo is seen shouting change also.

I wonder if this time the fate will take a different twist. Maybe Ghana may go for continuity and not change.

Meanwhile GEJ and Mahama seem like close friends.

I wish Ghana the best.

Ghana and Nigeria most times have the same fate. Like when Yar'Adua died and the VP, GEJ took over so it was when Atta Mills died and the VP Mahama took over.

Nana Addo is just like PMB when it comes to age and how often he has lost previous elections.

Nigeria voted for change last year and Nana Addo is seen shouting change also.

I wonder if this time the fate will take a different twist. Maybe Ghana may go for continuity and not change.

Meanwhile GEJ and Mahama seem like close friends.

I wish Ghana the best.

That message is not from Kumuyi. OP change your title. You've heard from more than 2 others that the message is not from Kumuyi.

I've seen that message countless times and even in other African countries, it's been paraded as if the pastors from those countries were the ones who originally had the message.

So please do the right thing to your title DrRasheed

skeendyke:
Amen to that. I'm very happy to hear you're doing fine as expected. Bennyann, I hold you in very high esteem so I'm more honoured to hear that from you. Your very high level of importance to me can never be diminished through time, space or absence. It only saddens me that you had to hear it from me before you became certain of it.

And God bless you abundantly, too. Never forget what I have just told you.

Ok, I'll keep that in mind. Thank you dear.

GoodMuyis:
My own song go be like say I day spam seun moniker

Make I just kip kwayet

Funny you

I'm interested ooo. Please drop it let's see. Is it a yoruba song? Don't forget you've mentioned him already so there's no difference

illuminated93:
I'm humbled by the amount of time you spent addressing my issue judging from your writings.
I try as much as I can to relate with the guys I see, mostly the guys under their masters. But the thing is, most of the issues these guys talk about are mostly mundane things,so on that level, I'm basically not involved in their discussions. Moreover, we both know how most rich igbo business men with little or no formal education behave when they know they have money than you do, so to the bosses I just greet them, nothing more.

On why I chose this particular business? There is no reason whatsoever other than making money. My reasons are in a way similar to Dangote's reasons for delving into business. In my opinion,i think Dangote's reason for delving into business is simply to make money. Dangote is not an innovator,unlike Bill Gate who we could all say loves things connected with computers and he got to make money doing what he loves best,i.e creating/innovating computer softwares.

I'm glad you said you try relating with them as much as you can. Besides I'm sure they won't always talk about mundane stuff - I hope at such a time you don't make it obvious in an annoying way that you're more of a saint than they are?

In issues like that you don't make it obvious you're better than them. There's nothing wrong with contributing and letting them know your views and your stand on such issues. You can smile while letting them know your stand as long as they're not taking advantage of you.

You have to mingle so you can influence some but make sure you don't get influenced negatively.

Everyone who has commented so far advised you to be focused on your goals. You have an objective so do everything possible to achieve it and do not let other factors ( whether they interest you or not) stop your dreams.

What you don't like or what you despise or things that make you uncomfortable mostly come once you've set your mind to achieve something. Some you may ignore them or do without them, some when you ignore them, they may work against you. So you should know which ones you'll participate in or try challenging so as to achieve your aim.

This time you're dealing with humans. You should set your mind in working with them in a way you'll never be at lost. Your boss is extremely important in this case before the others. Do all it takes to let your boss see he can count on you, let him see your humility and let him see he can trust you. Because I'm sure if you eventually start the same business you may really need him then. Because every business man has a secret to success most of their employees aren't aware of. So please be wise.

Your target should not only be to learn the skill, but to also study the environment, that is the people around that make the business thrive. If you're going to be a boss someday, you have to learn how socialization processes help to keep the business growing. That will be a plus to you. So please come down to their level and learn everything there is to that trade.

You've still not told me why the training is 1 year.,since you said it isn't a hard thing for you. Why isn't it less than a year?

Pidgin2:
"Call me crazy or a fool for forever I promise you I don't want to go somewhere if you are not there cause I know that me without you is a lie and I don't want to walk that road be a million miles from home cause my heart needs to be right where you are so I don't want to go without your touch without your love filling me like the ocean your GRACE IS ENOUGH "

Avalon has a way with words. She expressed a deep relationship with God, a dependency only a true worshiper will understand. Awesome worship song.

Nice one Benny

Thank you Pidgin2. His grace is enough for us.

jopretty:
I'm gonna sing it to HIM one day when I behold him face to face.

I believe God has given us the grace to be among those that will behold His face. I just pray we don't misuse it.

You know on that day you will so be in awe of Him that you may forget you promised to sing Him a song

But don't worry, He'll remind you and put His song on your lips to help you fulfill your promise. The host of angels, cloud of witnesses and all the saints will join you with one Accord in Jesus name! Amen.

It is well with our souls.

skeendyke:
Bennyann, thanks. Your absence was defeaning to say the least. Long I had hoped for a comment from you. I returned to this section after a long time because of you, and then you disappeared. Ouch.

Trust you are good.

Wow. I feel like I'm short of words. You just make me feel so important. I feel so important and honored. Thank you so much. I can't really describe how I feel

And yes, I'm doing well by God's grace. God bless you for me.

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Bro, what you're facing is normal, very normal. One thing you should note is; whenever you're with people like that, they feel intimidated by the mere fact that you're educated and would do anything to lord over you....but that's no problem.

My happiness is that you're passionate about the business you set out to learn. There's never a sweet learning curve, even in school, lecturers treated us like glorified animals.
You've just got to be focused on learning the business very well. Let the learning process be your motivation, your driving force, allow your passion to learn be paramount to you. Try as much as you can to relate with them, come down a bit to their level, that's the surest way of learning business secrets...very vital! Your staying away and being all professional isn't helping, that makes them feel you're feeling like you're better than they are, just because you're educated. Trust me, I reside in Onitsha which is predominantly populated by these type of people. Some times you've got to play the fool to fool the fool. Learn how to get along with them, learn their mindset, because you will deal with a lot of them when you eventually start of your business.

Lastly, and most importantly, stay focused on your objective for being in such an environment and these things won't deter you.

illuminated93, he just voiced out or wrote down my mind.

skeendyke:
Bennyann, very glad to see you. Been a while.

I'm gladder than you

Believe me, I'm always happy anytime I see your posts. I'm more glad than you.

Pidgin2:
Is it Jennifer Avalon's Third Planet?

AVALON LYRICS
"I Don't Want To Go"

You changed my world
When You came to me.
You drove a passion,
In my soul down deep,
Lord, to follow You in everything.

I don't want to go somewhere
If I know that You're not there,
'Cause I know that me without You is a lie.
And I don't want to walk that road,
Be a million miles from home,
Cause my heart needs to be where You are.
So I don't want to go.

So come whatever,
(Whatever may come)
I'll stick with You.
(Right by Your side)
I'll walk You'll lead me,
Call me crazy or a fool,
For forever I promise You...

That I don't want to go somewhere
If I know that You're not there,
'Cause I know that me without You is a lie.
And I don't want to walk that road,
Be a million miles from home,
Cause my heart needs to be where You are.
So I don't want to go
Without Your touch,
Without Your love
Filling me like an ocean.
For Your grace is enough,
Enough for me.

Never want to go somewhere
If I know that You're not there.
No, no, no, no.

I don't want to go somewhere
If I know that You're not there,
'Cause I know that me without You is a lie.
And I don't want to walk that road,
Be a million miles from home,
Cause my heart needs to be right where You are.
So I don't want to go. No, no.
Oh.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Without Your touch,
Without Your love
Filling me like an ocean.
Your grace is enough,
I don't want to go.

I don't want to go somewhere,
If I know that You're not there.
I don't want to be there without You.
Without your touch,
(I don't want to go somewhere,)
Without you love
(If I know that You're not there.
I don't want to be there without You.)
I don't want to go. No, no.
(I don't want to go somewhere,
If I know that You're not there.
I don't want to be there without You.)
If You're not there.
Filling me, loving me.
I don't want to go.
Don't want to go.
(Don't want to go, don't want to go there without you.)
There without you.
(Don't want to go)
Don't want to be
(Don't want to go, don't want to go)
There without you.
(There without you.)

I planned learning from him for just a year,it's clear I'm not happy with what I'm doing. But a 9 to 5 is something I wouldn't want. It's not as if I hate the business,infact i'd be happy the day I get start the business on my own,but this learning period, getting to learn from someone who hates what he can't conquer is depressing enough.

Hi dear,

First of all, it's advisable you learn to relate with people from all levels, whether they're higher, lower than you or just the same level with you. You have to learn to accommodate them because that's when life would be easier for you.

You have to do this by putting yourself in their shoes first. What I'm trying to say is they wish they had the opportunity you had. They envy it. Infact it's like an honour for you to be a student under them. So understand them, if possible come down to their level not forgetting you have a dream to accomplish there.

You're after something they have. So you have to be like them so you can easily be favored as long as it doesn't affect you negatively. See them as your equal, let them see you love and appreciate them, let them see some level of humility in you. This is so they can see and be convinced that you like to be around them.

I really admire your courage to learn a trade or business especially at the expense of a higher degree. It shows you're optimistic and determined to accomplish an aspect of your life. By the time you learn this skill and build upon it, you may eventually become somewhat fulfilled not just easily but faster.

But the question is, why that particular business? I know you said you do not hate it but you didn't say you love it either. So please, why the choice of that business?

And must it be a year's training? Can't it be less? Why one year? Especially, since you said it isn't a hard business.

Please when you answer these questions, we would see how to get to the next level.

Though it isn't advisable to run away from challenges. Many people can't do without their comfort zone. If it's that hard for you can't you change your trainer?

There's one thing I've learnt about life.

AND that's if it's my destiny to choose myself, there will be several choices available for me to choose from but if it isn't, there will only be one way in front of me and which it is a must for me to go by that way. That's my own personal experience of life's journey.

So please do well to answer the questions

Pidgin2:
Please who sang this song? It's so deep "Down at your feet oh Lord is the most high place

There's no where else as high as being at the feet of the most High God

" And kneel before your throne I'm amazed at your glory"

There's nothing more awesome than beholding God's glory while on your knees

Jonathan Butler. I don't know if he is the original singer though.

jopretty:
Down at your feet oh Lord,
Is the most high place
In your presence Lord
I seek your face...
I seek your face
There is no higher calling
No greater honor than to bow
And kneel before your throne
Am amazed at your glory
Embraced by your mercies
Oh lord,
I live to worship you.

You brought the song back to my memory. I love the song

Pidgin2:
It will all make sense as long as He is there. Deep

Thank you OP. Jesus is our everything.

Please try listen to the third one by Avalon - I don't wanna go. I'm sure you'll like it.

DONNIE MCCLURKIN LYRICS
"As Long As There's You"

[Solo:]
If there were no gates of pearl
If there were no streets of gold
If there was no other world
And a land where we won't grow old

I'm not thinking about those sights
Won't be there to enjoy the view
I think heaven will be alright
As long as Your there, as long as there is You

If I never hear an angel sing
In a far off holy land
If I never hear a joy bell ring
Sing a chorus in a Christian band

I'm not thinking about those sights
Won't be there to enjoy the view
I think heaven will be alright
As long as Your there, as long as there is You

I'm not thinking about the sights
Won't be there to enjoy the view
I think heaven will be alright
Just as long as Your there, as long as there is You

[Vamp:]
When we all get to heaven
What a day of rejoicing that will be
When we all see Jesus
We will sing and shout the victory

2nd favourite Song


KURT CARR LYRICS
"Something Happens"

[Chorus:]
Jesus
Something special
Supernatural
About Your name
Jesus
Something happens
When I mention Your name

[Lead:]
Demons have to flee when I say Jesus (Jesus)
Sickness has to heal when I say Jesus (Jesus)
Every knee shall bow before
And every tongue proclaim
With worthy praise
The matchless name of Jesus

[Chorus]

When I call upon Your name
The very atmosphere will have to change
We'll be transformed
We'll never be the same
By the power of Your Holy name

[Chorus]

Jesus
Something happens when we call Your name
Jesus
Oh the power in Your name

Jesus Jesus Jesus
Jesus Jesus Jesus
Something happens when I call You



The next one is by Avalon - I don't wanna go somewhere if I know that you're not there cos I know that me without You is a lie. And I don't wanna walk that road, be a million miles from home cos my heart needs to be right where you are ...... . .

I don't want to be selfish so let me stop here. I'm in the Spirit already.

Can someone tell me what this is doing in the religion section?

GrixzlyBear, what you just found out through your write up is The Main Objective of Atheism.

You've done well in that. Kudos to you.

Seun, religion is about the importance of life. I felt I should school you since you guys are confused about the section you belong.

Confused set of humans.

Anyway, you can't think of ending lives if you can't create one. Try creating one first before thinking conclusively along that line. Thank you.


Modified:

Almost like Solomon, you thought and thought and thought and thought then the product result was hopelessness, emptiness, lifelessness, nothingness. You came to the same conclusion that all is vanity.

Even Solomon in all his wisdom didn't give an end to life as the solution.

You've gotten to a point where you should know life is nothing without God. Everything is vanity without Him.

If at this point you don't recognize God then be very careful not to let the emptiness take over you. Because you'll have nothing else to offer others.

Another advise, I know you didn't say you want to end your life but please don't take your life and don't abort babies just in case because their lives and your life is not yours. Lives don't belong to you for you to come up with such conclusion.

You only have the right to say the human race shouldn't be a continuous one if only you can give life to one yourself.

4everGod:
MisterGrace is the one to drop details. Today is going to be his first day on the job. Life is Good when in a recession God blesses him with a job with foreign travel privileges yet without being interviewed for it. He most likely would be job focused now.

That's great but I'm eager to read the wonderful testimony.

Can we now go straight to the testimony? 4everGod and MisterGrace

MrMontella:
sorry to say tho...
Your write up is really stupid

Sorry dear. But I never told you they weren't stupid.

LiberaDeus:
All your claims are claims from authority that you don't have. Let me address them one by one

1. Concerning pleasures, who is more selfish. You Christians maintain belief for the sake of a mansion in the sky with all the goodies4 of life to be enjoyed forever and ever and ever. You guys are basically drawn with a carrot for something that doesn't exist. You are like the medieval Spanish that were after an Eldorado in the new world. Many Spaniards sold all their property to achieve that Eldorado. Nothing but pure greed.
What's even worse is that the Christians that are meant to sacrifice selfish pleasures never do that. They hang on to it till death, its like eating your cake and having it. Most Christians fornicate, steal, embezzlement, hate and do all sorts of horrible things and they still hope for the eternal blessing of heaven.
Now who has more selfish desires, the atheists that have accepted the 80 year life as the only they have and are not drawn by any fantastic claims or the Christians who want an eternity of enjoyment and still want to hang on to their earthly desires.

2. You don't know what's in anyone's heart. Can you tell me my real name or my state of origin? Can you tell me whre I am typing from? How can you now know what's in my heart. You have never been a freethinker while ironically most of us have been religious. You know only what's in your mind . If you have a spouse, you can't even know exactly the extent of love the person has for you so how can you estimate what we are thinking when we lie down when you don't even know the part of the world or country that we lie down in.

3. If you say nothing is hidden before God. I have just one question. Which God ? Allah, Vishnu, Brahman, Yahweh, Ahura Mazda. Please I need to know which god.

4. All your other statements still lead to the question. Which God.

LiberaDeus

Let me start by saying my write up was drawn from the conclusions extracted from the Op. I hope you'll agree with me when you read through.

1. I think I remember telling you in a certain thread that what keeps a Christian going is the love for God. He said we should love Him with all our hearts and then love our neighbors as ourselves. Love is the drive force of a Christian. God is bigger and more satisfying than the mansions you believe it's what Christians are fighting for. Christianity is about constant relationship with the father. God is the center of attraction and not paradise.

Those whose eyes are fixed on material things instead of Jesus easily get diverted. The focal point is God and not material things. Anyone who understands that has found the secret in standing firm.

Besides, in the real world, especially in Nigeria, it isn't hidden that most atheists are part of those hiding under the guise of Christianity. So you can't say for sure if it's Christians doing all those stuff you mentioned.

AND we shouldn't forget easily that those called Christians are those who obey the commandments of God. Those who follow the Bible.

So if you call those who obey the commandments of God selfish, well, I'll leave that to your conscience.

2. I agree with you that I don't know what's in anyone's heart. Infact I never said I knew so please don't get me wrong . I only said the atheists are witnesses to themselves about what goes on in their hearts. Infact each of us are the only witness to our hearts apart from God. So I don't think I erred there.

We shouldn't forget here that the conclusions were drawn from the Op. But I wouldn't deny the fact that several related stories pointed out that most became atheists so as to please their flesh which doesn't lead to happiness. I'm beginning to see reasons in it and if possible, truths.

3. Talking about which God. Since you don't believe God exists and since you're trying to prove to me I'm not the only one having a God. And believe me I believe there are other gods. Well, here goes the answer :

The God of all gods. The Creator of the universe. The Creator of everything. The One who has no beginning and ending of days. The One who says yes and none can say no. The One who gives life to the flesh. The One who cannot just destroy only the body but also the soul, the spirit. The God who every other gods or spirits bow to and give accounts of all their dealings.

That's the kind of God I'm talking about.

Blessed are they who have such a God as their God.

LaClicKLaBenDin:
And one thing common to nairaland atheists, is that they love evidence of convenience.

Why is it that any scientific research or experiment that discredits atheism, is tagged unreliable or something?

Does it mean that atheism is perfect in all ramifications?

Take it easy.

I don't want shouts of 'no true Scotsman fallacy' at the Op.

Actually, I personally prefer the use of no true Christian fallacy.

Let's just stop here

Happy new month

I got to my room about 11:00 and sat on my bed thinking what a stupid, ignorant fool I had been. I had rejected God;

I had been dishonest. I had actually been stupid in my response to the evidence available to me. I did not like people who refuse to look at the evidence and draw intelligent conclusions. I did not like people who could not break free of their parents' thinking and do their own thinking. I had
always accused the religionists of doing this, yet I recognized that I had been guilty of the same thing. I had refused to be honest — to look at the evidence. I had refused to make comparative choices based upon what was available to me. I was miserable.

I have tried almost everything you can imagine to find pleasure and happiness. I will not try to tell you that I did not find pleasure using my own system of following my own desires, but I can guarantee you that I did not find happiness. I tried every conceivable thing you can think of. I tried all kinds of things — things that were immoral, that were wrong, that hurt other people, and things that I would not even want to describe.
I did those things because I was trying to find pleasure and happiness and, as I say, I found pleasure sometimes. However, I never went to bed at night satisfied or happy

I see it's more about pleasure, selfish pleasure. Most of the atheists know the truth but they allow their selfish desires dictate for them, especially the Christians turned atheists.

Anyway, they're witnesses to themselves of how fulfilled they are with acting out their desires and how empty or unhappy they are on their beds afterwards.

They are witnesses to themselves. they may defend themselves right here with every weapon they can find, but deep down their hearts they know.

The amazing thing is that nothing is hidden before God.

What's the essence of selfish desires at the expense of true happiness. Indeed, wisdom is not really common.

We've all forgotten everything God does is for our sake.

As long as you're not connected to God, all the form of pleasures of this world you partake in will never, never lead to happiness, not to talk of joy.

I wish all of us grace.

EyeHateGod:
In the End Times people Eyes will begin to open..

Just as they were opened in the garden of Eden.
I couldn't agree with you more.

It is expected and not surprising to Christians.

Seun is competing with His creator. The day wey nairaland go compete with am, e go be like film for him eyes.

That will be the outstanding proof to some people that creation fit tell creator say him no exist.

First to do no dey pain.

You believe something doesn't exist, yet you spend the rest of your life chasing it. What should we call that? How does it sound to the ears?

They've forgotten the Bible even said speaking of tongues will never make sense to some people. And they keep proving the Bible right, that it doesn't make sense to them.

They also prove the Bible right, because it says there will be those that will be God over themselves and they'll PRETEND not to know God exists.

Seun enjoy your time, when God's time for you comes, no one will tell you to run to Him.

Anyways, this thread has some scientific attachment to it. I hope it pleases you to push it to front page.

Wolexdey:
It is not advisable for a Woman to propose to the Man because such responsibility belongs to the Man. Its the Man's job to do such and not the Woman...The Woman should focus more on the LORD, build up her character and attitudes, seek ways to improve herself and be Prayerful..

In such situation, The Holy Spirit and the Word of GOD should be her close companion...She will find direction through that..

Thank you dear.

It's quite obvious Christians have concluded on this thread that it isn't advisable for Christian ladies to propose to a man.

I hope our sisters would be aware and I hope they agree.

skeendyke:
Hi Bennyann, have been very busy such that I have had very little time to make any comments since last week. Apologies for the delay.

Bennyann, on no account should the lady propose to the man, but knowing the will of God concerning their future together and perceiving the man may be shy or find it intimidating to propose to her this should give her the confidence to give him hints, nudge or encourage him indirectly to making that decision but softly and never appear to bug him. Overall, with time he will get over his initial shyness and if he is truly the man God has chosen for the lady he will not make her wait long before proposing all things being equal.

Thank you skeendyke

HardMirror:
Lol
You got the strategy

What strategy? After the sweet romance?

Seun:
You're sucking all the oxygen out of this section. Thinking of funnelling everything back to the first thread . Maybe that will contain the shitshow.

Are you for real? Are you aware this particular thread would be lost in it? Except I don't understand you.

Besides, it isn't your thread. You can't add damogul's thread to Hardmirror's thread.

I bet you, if that is what you mean, you'll have no sleep, no rest and your image will be at stake.

bbfever:
Seun did you bother checking the date the moniker was registered? it was 2012! And not just registered as that seems to be your latest lingo.

I am actually asking the questions you should be asking and it worries me.

You have to be wise dear.

I think Seun is trying to pass a message that he was a pastor.

Since that question shouldn't be meant for you. I haven't seen Seun questioning those that came with facts, especially those that claim they know him. He just ignores them