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Ishilove:
Forget all the nonsense he has been spewing. Hardmirror was religious, not spiritual because anyone who has truly experienced God and felt the power of the Holy Spirit will not turn around to deny the existence and reality of the one true, Almighty God.

They want to study God under a microscope but He refuses to be studied like a lab specimen. When they can't box Him into the four walls of carnal reasoning, they turn around and cry foul because He is just TOO MUCH for their puny minds to handle.

Hardmirror wrote a tall and fantastic tale of backsliding, embellishing details, and in some places outrightly lying in a bid to defend his voluntary descent into thick darkness. The devil has him now.

May God have mercy on him and bring him back to light.

May God have mercy on all of us .

Amen!

bbfever:
^^^^^^^^
cc Bennyann

You need to understand that even God made reference to those who would go reprobate.

I understand you dear. But once there is life there is hope. And I know God has great interest in Him.

Jesus promised He will not cast out anyone that comes to Him. I believe there's a probability he can still come to God as long as he is still living.

HardMirror:
Of what use is your soft spot. I will take the soft spot of ..... Than urs. Online soft spot does no one any good

You will take the soft spot of who? .....? I hope it's not what I'm thinking? Being a pure atheist would have really been better if it's what I'm thinking.

Anyway, I've heard of those who's gone that far and still came back to their first love. As long as there is life, there is hope.

The fact that you're alive means God hasn't given up on you. So who am I to think evil of you?

I'll say this again : I pray God gives you grace over Hebrew 6:4-6.

HardMirror:
What do you mean those who must have gone astray because of my story. Where were they before?

HardMirror don't play mind games with me. You were once in the faith remember? So you should understand.

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Why are you so concerned with someone who is doing the devil's work? Why are you so concerned about someone who will go to that length to bring down your God and call Him fake?

I don't share your soft spot for the dude.

My dearest,

God doesn't get angry easily like that and you know how much He loves those that are against Him.

My heart is filled with so much love that I Fear what will happen to anyone that taste my anger or curse.

So please, let me be as long as my spirit is still stable. I know you understand. We all have different gifts you know.

HardMirror:
I am cool. Keep waiting

Actually waiting for something like this isn't my thing. I was only concerned about you and those that may have gone astray due to your story.

But it wouldn't be nice of you neither will it portray you as a gentleman if you just come here and play around without leaving a positive impact on this thread.

I wish you well.

GoodMuyis:

No mind her, attending a church makes you a student joor.

In case you wanna know, I have solution part 2, wanna buy

Funny people everywhere.

HardMirror, hope you are OK? This one you're running round the thread and waking up trouble all over.

Please, get your proof quickly so this matter will die down quickly.

I know Hardmirror is just a moniker but don't forget a good name is better than riches.

I'm sure if you decide to change your moniker, you'll regret it a lot cos this moniker of yours mean so much to you.

This is the time to vindicate yourself and not by fooling around and thinking you're fooling everyone here.

I'm just happy to see you lively sha. At least you're hale and hearty and I thank God for that.

But vindicate yourself as quickly as possible.

jonbellion:
The Jewish God and the christian God aren't the same deities
Christianity is a pathetic excuse to join the two gods together it's almost asif like the glue was seminal fluid or something
With nonsense like
-vaguely fulfilled prophecies about jesus' birth as a sorry attempt to fufill the messianic prophecies in the old testament(which was fulfilled on a percentage scale of zero)
and absolute rubbish like the trinity
That's why the Jews rejected jesus' carpenter ass
This then makes up the Judeo Christian God

Heiiiiiiiiii! Dear jonbellion, you Sabi disturb ehn


Can't you try commenting without using ugly words, curse words and the rest? . Na wa for you oooo

Sorry for intruding.

No matter what you do, you can't deceive your creator.

jonbellion:
he took his lies to the extreme

But it really hasn't gotten to that extent. He may pretend to be hard here but we can't tell what's happening to him outside here.

So please try to understand.

After all he no say na him kill the brother

Urahara2:
na jehovah dey do the transfer na



transfer am come which side , dey jonzz ,no go go redemption camp jare





ah ah , but dey ban till december 1 na no be say dem ban be permanently na.

Na so you stingy reach?

jonbellion:
chaiii!!
HardMirror be like

I beg make una stop now. Let's not take it to that extreme. I beg

Jdazzle:
I concur...

analice107:

Very good.

It seems LaClicKLaBenDin really spoke out your minds.

That a lady can or should only voice out her feelings if the one she loves is her best friend ( or they are very close) but it isn't advisable for her to be the one to propose.

I hope I'm right on the summary

LaClicKLaBenDin:
Transfer from where to where?

Urahara2:
this is my second account . i was banned about 2 days ago.



dem preach about wealth transfer

of course since na only wealth you Sabi. But I dey wonder who dey transfer the wealth.

I beg transfer am come my side too.


No let Boss ( I no won mention name) find out say he ban you and you go reincarnate. If not, you go reincarnate 100 times

rexben:
Jesus said He will build his church, Paul also claims that he's a wise master builder.
Jesus said He's the sower according to the parable of the sower, Paul claims he plants also

naijadeyhia:


Its indeed a compliment for the world to be able to see Christ in us and declare we are like Christ. This is a great approval as the Bible says we are living Epistles read of men and the ernest expectation of the creature is to see the manifestation of the sons of God.


If you are said to be LIKE CHRIST even by the world the question you should ask yourself is WHO WAS CHRIST? Was He a demon? Is He God? Remember in psalm 8 the Bible says YE ARE GODS AND ALL OF YOU ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE MOST HIGH! BUT YOU SHALL FALL DIE LIKE MEN AND FALL LIKE ONE OF THE PRINCES...YE KNOW NOT NEITHER DO YOU UNDERSTAND.


The unbelievers in antioch who also heard or saw Christ when he was here looked at the disciples and gave them an approval rating and that approval rating is called CHRISTIAN (LIKE CHRIST).


The disciples represented Christ extremely well hence that word Christian.


Any Atheist who is saying nonsense is only being used by the devil to sow doubt.


Remember when Jesus met the man possessed by legion the demons Knew who Christ was. When the seven sons of sceva attempted casting out demons the demon knew who Paul was and who Jesus was. The demons did not know them as one of their own but people of the light. People of God! So even a demon can speak truth when its undeniable same way it can speak lies when manipulative.


In the case of antioch the people spoke the truth as that was evident for all to see through the lives the disciples lived .


Shalom.

I see you've been replied already by naijadeyhia. So I'll end it here with you.

Urahara2:
i dey go church o

I sight you. You go church today?

I'm sure you go for your parents sake. Am I right?

You register just yesterday, the first person you decide to follow na sonofluc1fer. Na wa for you oooo.

Oya tell me, wetin dem preach for church

skeendyke:
Bennyann, my first impression reading your opening post is that it would be a huge mistake for a lady to propose to a man.

My conclusion has nothing to do with religious observation of practices neither does it reflect any rigid belief in keeping with the age-old practice of the male gender exercising his exclusive right of initiating the proposal as his duty by nature.

Moreover, it is not even about protecting the pride of the female gender from getting squashed or hurt in the event of rejection by the one whom she secretly admires and loves

You see, I am a firm believer of the fact that what makes a very good relationship or marital union is a firm foundation in Christ. Bennyann, you remember the book, The Final Quest, we talked about sometime ago? I want to draw your attention to a particular statement Jesus made which, as it turns out, is peculiarly relevant to this subject of discussion. Wisdom (Jesus) told Rick Joyner that wisdom is "to see with His eyes."

Failure to do that will spell doom because we will be walking in our wisdom which, naturally, is handicapped by our inability to see the person for who they really are or the error of our decision to take the relationship with that person further beyond casual friendship.

Wisdom is the principal thing in every situation. In this case, as with any other situation in life, the wisdom of God is what counts. What does God think about your proposing to the person? What does He think about the person? Knowing what God thinks about the person or your action of proposing to the person is wisdom when you put His words to practice.

You could save yourself from a difficult period of unnecessary heartache and frustration if you sought God's wisdom in the matter rather than acting in your limited wisdom. That is all that matters.

Remember, appearance could be deceptive. Only God knows each one of us beyond our facade therefore He is the only Person in the position to point out if we are making the right or wrong decision.

This is why we need to always see people, our actions, and things only "through His eyes" then we can be very confident we are making the right decision that will be a blessing not only to us but also to the people around us, and, at the same time, bring pleasure to the heart of God through our complete dependence, trust, and obedience to Him in every matter of life.

You know very well I'm interested in your answer skeendyke, and it seems you've concluded by saying it would be a huge mistake if a lady proposes to a man.

From your post I understand you're talking about the will of God. Meaning in everything we do, it should be within His will. His will should supercedes our desires and other earthly pleasures.

So now, let's assume both the man and the woman have strong foundation in Christ. And fortunately, it's God's will for them to be together. But they're there waiting for the first person to initiate it. Either because they feel too spiritual or the man is too shy or whatever.

In that particular case, would it be wise or right for the lady to go first?

If yes, why? And if no, any reason?

Yieldings:
Skeendyke has said some of the things I would've said. You can deduce my reasons from his post.

Hi dear

I didn't really get any reasons from him, maybe it's because you understand his post better.

Deicide:
Na so them day take enta menopause b4 they see husband marry?

See why religion is a problem especially Christianity?

Deicide Deicide

Show a simple courtesy now. Even if you don't like what he said, why don't you just add your opinion? . Is that too hard to do?

From the little I've studied about Seun, even if he is against one's opinion, he will make sure he adds his and also give another opinion from the Christian perspective.

The fact you're an atheist shouldn't make you act inhuman.

collinsfhk:
God bless you.

I will liken that questions to some one asking if a lady should help pay her bride price. Its that serious. The standard for every Christian is the bible (Joshua 1:8 - a point of ref.) Due to moral decadence- strange practices are becoming acceptable in the world today. But thr is what is called due order. Mind you that if Elijah did not repair the alter (1Kings 18:30), fire wouldnt have come down. Little things we ignore are the things that cause problem.

Rem. Christ said that my Kingdom is not of this world (John 18:36). Our decisions as Christians (not church goers) should be driven by what is acceptable in His Kingdom). The bible says "he that finds a wife", not the other way round - Prov. 18:22, Gen. 2:24. The decision lies with the man (Gen. 2:23) because God Has made him the head. If a relationship gets to a point of the lady proposing, something is wrong. All things been equal, when a man meets his wife, his missing rib, he cannot hold back. Imagine Adam's reaction (Gen. 2:23), there is this peace, inner witness that comes with it.

Ofcourse a relationship could be divine with true love present and the man is not forthcoming, go on your knees lady. The God of yester years is same God of today. He has not changed (Heb. 13:. Let's not be carried away by so called modern christianity, religion simplified.

Stay blessed

Remain blessed too. Thank you

rexben:
Paul had followers, he had children, he's a spiritual father. Paul severally equated himself to be Christ . He completed the suffering of Jesus. Paul is a crook and a thief

Can you please give me instances to the bolded?

And I hope all is well with you or maybe you've been busy? Cos it took you a while to mention me.

Anyways, I hope Hardmirror is OK? I'm concerned about him.

But why should I be when this is a faceless forum, besides when he appears, he still does that as if everything is OK.


And suddenly, this thread is filled with atheists again.

Na no dey Go church, mosque, temple or even any form of meeting at all?

hopefulLandlord:
Bennyman

I opened the thread so that Christians can point out the lie, that's because they've been calling Hardmirror a liar on every thread since he opened that thread of his and I want to know the real truth and I remain on the side of truth no matter who's saying it

Howmon did a good job and it doesn't take a genius to see that the part of someone dying of fasting is a fabrication looking at how things panned out




That thread also served another purpose, Howmon asked the question at hand not any of these Christian apologists who shout that he's a liar every time

it so happens that the likes of Analice107, Damogul, Naijadeyhia, 4evergod and their cohorts who label him a liar always couldn't ask a question of their own but quickly jumped on Howmon's (a stranger) question like it were theirs; why were they labelling him liar when they had nothing on him till someone else entirely did?

this still doesn't take away from the question and its a good thing to separate facts from fiction

I like the fact you said you remain on the side of the truth no matter what. That's one Trait I wouldn't like to lose. So I admire that about you.

Personally, I don't believe the story is entirely false but I can't even tell if it's his personal story.

But I wouldn't be surprised if Christians are determined to take the investigation further, they might find other loopholes.

The reason theists are taken this to the extreme is due to the importance of evidence, proof and logic to the atheists. So they're amazed and disappointed that the atheists who would normally, easily not overlook such loopholes are now the ones seeing it as nothing or not important.

The theist here are only trying to be on the same level of reasoning with the atheists this time.

But it's so amazing, atheists don't want them there. Maybe it's because it seems to be against them.

If atheists don't want theists to talk about evidence this time that they've chosen, then I think it'll be fair to say atheists should never ever disturb them with anything that involves evidence and logic anymore. They do not have that kind of right after this especially if this issue isn't resolved.

They are now paying the atheists back in their own coin.

Damogul and hopefullandlord should be involved in solving all these. This seem like a bad time to knocking out damogul. He started this thread and Seun took over without him.

Those who have the full info, who read all the pages of that thread are those you need to solving this especially hopefullandlord and more especially damogul who has some evidences with him.

Without them, I guess we're only fooling ourselves here.

Good night everyone

LiberaDeus:
Christians I hope you understand what credibility means

Just a slight detail in Hardmirrors story and we all have to ask ourselves whether the whole story was fabricated. If he could fabricate or be dishonest about one slight detail then we can't know the extent of the fabrication or were the lies end. In this case it is best to dismiss his testimony.

Lets apply this same logic to your bible. The difference between hardmirror testimony and your bible is that your bible claims to be the inerrant, inspired word of god.
Now if we can find one dubious claim in your bible, applying the same logic, how can we not discard it as a whole.
There abounds dozens of inaccurate claims in your bible.
Just to name a few
1. Conflicting geneologies of Jesus in Matthew and Luke
2. Conflicting Creation accounts in genesis.
3. Failed end time prophecy given by Jesus in Matthew 24 concerning his imminent return which was scheduled before the end of the listening generation.
4. Failed prophecy on the destruction of Tyre.

5. Inaccurate knowledge of geography. Stating that the sun, moon and stars are all in the sky.

Christians examine your beliefs

My friend,

I'll advice you to use the Christian book against them but not for you to take something outside the Bible to discredit them.

You've all done all that already on this forum and they keep defending their beliefs. Why bringing it up again at this time when the books you yourself rely on isn't accepted by the Christians to be perfect.

We all feel the same way about each other here about our foundation of belief being perfect compared to others. Meaning you yourself should question your belief.

So you can use the Bible to discredit them and they'll keep defending it but don't take anything outside the Bible to frame them up.

So please don't be surprised or don't let it bother you they also went out to investigate since that story isn't in the Bible.

I pray all this ends quickly.

Seun:
Ok, so either HardMirror made it up despite it not being an important detail in his story , or the information he got from his fellowship members was not accurate, or he was not a member of the fellowship that HardMirror thought he was a member of. Am I getting this right?

I told you to apply wisdom. Didn't I? Can you see the bolded? It's so amazing how it turns out to be not all evidences are important, not all loopholes can be corrected anymore.

Fine! What's important to you is that an Almighty pastor turned atheist, that's if it is even true. It won't be the first and it will never be the last. Infact you will hear more of those stories that are outstanding and quite unique than this and I'm sure that will make you feel good.

But hei, you're not the only one on this forum. You have what is important to you in this story but others are interested in correcting the loopholes, eventhough it seems you have the largest share of victory.

AND you know what, this loophole that isn't important has gone outside nairaland to the real world.

So I'll advice you to see the importance in it.

Seun:
In my "court", you are innocent until proven guilty. I know you really want to discredit him for the sake of your religion.

I'm not a kind of person who derives joy in discrediting people because they do not agree with me, so you're wrong there.

The title HardMirror Said A Brother Died From Complications Due To Fasting wouldn't have put you in a good limelight at all. But this present one Investigation Of HardMirror's Claim That A Brother Died Due To Fasting is better.

Don't forget we know where you stand. So please be fair and apply wisdom.

Seun:
I have just changed the title of the thread. So this thread is for discussing the specific claim that was disputed by damogul in this thread.

Seun! Seun! Seun!

Be careful!

mrmrmister:
This kind of truth?
I don't think it's of any importance to his belief
Except his faith has started to shake

I believe he did this for the sake of those who are lukewarm. Or do you have any problem with that?

Christians don't fight for God, but they sure use all they've got to seek out the lost sheep as long as they themselves are not lost.

Do you get that? Besides, atheists also do all they can to make sure they don't lose a brother.

collinsfhk:
For a Christian lady its wrong . If you are genuinely in luv with someone, all you need do is pray God to speak to the person . The heart of a king is in the hands of the Lord says the scripture. But be sure you deserve the person because God is a just God .

Going further, the reason some ladies stay single for too long is simply because they were not ready when mr right came around and he simply passed by .... At the end of the day they will be asking God questions.

Let me stop here.

I like the part where you say you pray to God to speak to the person because the heart of a king is in God's hands.
That's powerful you know. You used some powerful words up there. That's the number one thing I also believe a Christian Lady should do.

But you haven't given reasons why you believe it's wrong for a Christian Lady.

AND please don't stop when you have more to say.

Yieldings:
No, it's definitely not advisable.

Wow! This is coming from a lady.

Please why isn't it advisable? A few reasons will do