₦airaland Forum

ElSudani:
Don't twist the narrative. It is Obidients who are actually regretting the day they crossed path with the Jagaban.
This man is coming top at whatever you throw at him!

Tinubu is coming top, yes, and that is to the detriment of all Nigerians that is why the are throwing things as you put it, but where does that leave you as a person?

I laugh at you. How does this make you better off than me now? Probably some jobless youth somewhere talking about putting me to shame. Are you a minister, legislator or what is your political portfolio?😀😀😀

helinues:
Nothing was wrong with Nigeria judiciary when Peter Obi won at the Supreme court

Think for once, how many years ago was that? Is it still the same judges? APC chieftains like Oshiomhole, Fayemi, Aregbesola etc benefited from the incorruptible judiciary of yore to become governors even in opposition.
That can't happen today except the government wants to sacrifice your seat.

RecentHistory:
Where was Yusuf Datti yesterday?

That fool has abandoned Peter Obi to his fate.

If a Yusuf Datti is a fool, what should we call you and your father?

press9jatv:
nothing will happen to the justices and their judgement of rerun election . You are in your four corners of your room typing lies and propaganda here. It doesn’t work now

I wish what I said was actually a lie. But the world knows it can't happen in today's Nigeria.

press9jatv:
I’m seeing rerun judgement in today’s tribunal judgement. 98% of the electorates predicts that too. Let’s keep our fingers crossed..

It won't happen in Nigeria. Any judge with the balls to try it, the DSS will pick him up right there, I swear. That's the sad reality

Don't even bother, Dangote bankrolls all these crooks to power.

GanagiBitrus:
Let's give any of our Nigerian coaches a chance - preferably Amunike.

. The same Amunike that has been sacked here and there in Africa? That is how they sacked Rohr after he qualified us for the final round of the WC qualifiers only for Eguavoen to come and bottle it all.

This silly bunkum again. How much is the oil reserve in those countries? How many refineries do they have?

AuschwitzPrefec:
Which one Obi pay Anambra health workers ?

Ewu

You will die on top Obi matter if you don't put this your hate in check. Where is Obi mentioned in the post?

garfield1:
Nothing like court papers were published in 2022.tinubu's forfeiture happened in 1993.a search through us criminal and civil records found nothing on him because it is a non issue and the us keeps clean,centralized records.the constitution is contemplating a conviction and nothing of such happened to tinubu.the prayer is dead as dodo.are you not the one that claimed prince otu will lose in CRS? Don't you ever learn

Stop LYING about my claim on Prince Otu. Show me where I had ever stated that Out will lose. A candidate that I supported and voted for myself? Though I am anti APC, I have supported Ayade, Stephen Odey and Otu. You lie a lot. stop it.

garfield1:
But obi is depending on something in 1993 and he hasn't brought something new

Don't confuse yourself. A case happened in 1993 and was well recorded. Then a purported document released in 2003 said there was no such case at any point in time which you people are standing on. Then in 2022 the court papers were published. How you guys want us to accept 2003 'report' as the fact when the publication from the US court on the matter is in public domain is what beats me. Let us even assume that the 2003 report by the FBI or what agency was it, was authentic, don't you know about emerging facts or fresh evidence? It can set a man free from jail or convict a previously discharged and acquitted person.

GeneralDae:
That document is not new.

But 2022 is newer than 2003.

GeneralDae:
In a civil forfeiture, the focus is not to prove your guilt or innocence. Rather the focus is to prove that your property should be ceased by the Government. Your property was linked to illegal money one way or the other and therefore should be ceased whether you were guilty of the illegality or not.

A criminal forfeiture is punishment for a crime which you were convicted of. In that case, you are the focus and you are named as the defendant in the final case, not your account or property ceased.

Tinubu claimed he received money from a friend (family friend to his wife known as Akande). The court didn't go the extra mile to determine if he was part of the drug dealers, since the drug dealers (Akande's two younger brothers) who were earlier prosecuted did not mention his name. He got involved in the case because they traced every penny from the Akande brothers and traced funds to Tinubu's account as well. Tinubu was in Nigeria then and admitted he did receive 8 thousand dollars as gift from senior Akande which he used to buy a car in 1989. Account was frozen and in the process of getting back his account, Tinubu forfeited money according to U.S law on such forfeitures.

The court did not go ahead to establish that Tinubu himself was part of the Akande drug ring in America or that he just received gifts from them, hence the sentence was just against the account to cease the property according to U.S law. They ceased just 460 thousand dollars and returned back 1.2 million dollars to him. This was probably a better deal for Tinubu than fighting his case with the Powerful U.S Government to the latter in order to get back all his cash. He may have ended up losing everything with the case still inconclusive for years.

By accepting on his behalf whether truly or not that he received monetary gifts from criminals, you make the case worse for Tinubu my dear brother. Don't ever say that in any court if they happen to use you.😀 Read up on ''guilty by association" and also "the vicarious law of liability" .

seunmsg:
Lol. It is what it is. Provide evidence of the trial of Tinubu in any court. Provide evidence of the indictment or criminal conviction.

Read about non-conviction forfeiture and stop embarrassing yourself. If you violate traffic offense and get fined by VIO or FRSC, it is a non-conviction fine because you were not convicted of any criminal offense. You won’t lose your right to vote or be voted for simply because you paid a fine to FRSC. Paying a fine or forfeiture doesn’t have to be from a criminal conviction.

Below is the official position of the US government on the case. The same US government that gave the forfeiture order. Show it to your children and beg them to explain the implication to you. I’m sure they can read and comprehend better than you.

FYI a US court released document in 2022 to the effect that your paymaster was peddling white heroin along with others. And you are here wanting us to reference some 2003 concocted documents?

seunmsg:
Lol. It is what it is. Provide evidence of the trial of Tinubu in any court. Provide evidence of the indictment or criminal conviction.

Read about non-conviction forfeiture and stop embarrassing yourself. If you violate traffic offense and get fined by VIO or FRSC, it is a non-conviction fine because you were not convicted of any criminal offense. You won’t lose your right to vote or be voted for simply because you paid a fine to FRSC. Paying a fine or forfeiture doesn’t have to be from a criminal conviction.

Below is the official position of the US government on the case. The same US government that gave the forfeiture order. Show it to your children and beg them to explain the implication to you. I’m sure they can read and comprehend better than you.

I laugh at you seriously. You are pasting a 2003 purported document , obviously you are not up to date on the matter in focus. Even the APC hierarchy and their counsel are sweating on how to defend the obvious fact Tinubu forfeited ( not fined as you put) so much money in hard currency. You are here blabbing, who do you think you are talking to. It is only ignorant folks you can intimidate, brother.

Some of these so called celebrities, Nigerians are taking notes of you. When the chips are down you will get the feedback.
Make una continue.

seunmsg:
Atiku is just as senseless as Peter Obi. He claimed he win the election but failed to show the court how he won the election. He has now reduced his case to disqualifying Tinubu without making any attempt to prove how he won the election.


All this noise about forfeiture is nothing but empty noise. No court in the world will disqualify a candidate over a non-conviction forfeiture where there was no trial, indictment, guilty sentence and conviction. More bizarre is the fact that the forfeiture happened 30 years ago. Even in cases where there are clearly passed criminal convictions, the convict is barred for 10 years after which he can vote and be voted for.

Tinubu will not be disqualified because he’s 100% qualified. He will rule as president till 2037 at the first instance.

Read what you wrote up there again, or let your children read it for you and see if that makes any sense. No indictment, no charge, no trial and someone can just be called up and asked to forfeit his asset? It doesn't happen in a banana republic.

Mccullum:
Atiku and Obi just hoping on mission that has gone, both of them can try again in 2023.

They are trying and it's still 2023.
Tinubunomics has twisted many brains already.😀

emmy512:
Let tinubu breathe

Do this people actually think the courts will grant them a rerun?
That's another cost that I'm sure is not on inecs budget

You are clearly not speaking for the INEC, because they had said the had plan in place for a possible rerun.

Ijelenwanyioma:
I am legally married to this man and we have 3 sons together. Recently he purchased some land which he actually told me about but when I checked the documents of all the land I only saw Mr(his name in full) and not Mr & Mrs (his name and surname) or Mr (his name ) and Mrs (My name ). This really gave me great concern and when I asked him, he told me it doesn't really count because the properties also belong to my children. Later he started accusing me that I am nursing ulterior motive in my heart and maybe I want to take over the properties which is blantly lies. I just want to feel ownership of the land too

Please am I overreacting on this issue truly or my husband is planning something behind me ( maybe remarrying)

Yes he is planning to remarry, and then change name on the documents to include that of his new wife.
How did you even arrive at that thought?


Now let me ask you, and answer with your most sincere heart, If you happen to acquire a property now with your own money, would you buy it your husband name or even include him as a co-owner??
99 percent of women will never, but they must be given a sense of belonging in the man's dealings.

Think9ja:
Why this Peter Obi guy mumu like this?
You get 3rd position for something, but you say na you get first.

Even if them rerun this election a billion times, that mumu man go still come 3rd.

The foolish Dumbo cannot come first or second in an election where Tinubu and Atiku are contesting. It doesn't work like that anywhere in the world.
These guys have been playing this game at the highest level for 30+ years. Suddenly, one Onitsha main market trader whom Ojukwu imposed on his people thinks he's politically sagacious enough to outsmart them.

The greatest thing that happened to Nigeria this first six months was the fact that this empty man came 3rd.

Very empty, useless, lying cretin

The whole world would rather be a 'mumu' Obi than be a smart you or your father. The TRUTH.

The govt will later deny it. Watch

davodyguy:
Stating the fact.
There are over 100,000 polling units.

APC and PDP had party agents in all, as party agents are expected to stay at the polling units, count votes there and sign the form before the form is either uploaded it the hard copy taken to the collation Centre.

You're unable to get 100,000 plus agents to assist and you want to claim fraud or rely on IREV.

So what happen in those units that you had no agent? How can you prove fraud?

Tell this Obi guy to stop wasting his time and 🤑

Three candidates are in court challenging the presidential election and it is only Obi that gives you heart attack. The whole world understand the reason. Seun Okinbaloye is asking sensitive questions as a dispassionate journalist and a Nigerian, you senselessly bring in Obi, did Obi send Seun to anchor the program?
Why do we even mind everyone sef.

WorldRichest:
This one thinks that Judges come to. Nairaland to read the rubbish they post here. You will weep again as you did when the final election result was announced

Shebi you you are laughing under this government abi?

For real??

Angelfrost:
Good luck Jonathan was not unseated sir!

He lost an election fair and square!

I'm talking about a sitting President being sacked by the Courts! Never in Nigeria!

There's always a first time.

kestolove95:
Another obidi0t down...

For your stupidity, you may not see as many days as this man on whose grave you are dancing.

LeoDeKing:
So obi is also challenging the results of Adamawa state and he agrees with the 99% votes he got in Anambra?

Then tender the one you feel is the authentic for Anambra. It is the right of every petitioner.

"Causes and Effects". 😀

Henrydata:
Cos Buhari was never concerned about what is going on in the country.

Sorry, he was just lazy

Buhari is the worst thing to happen to Nigeria. Apart from old age, the man is so daft.

frozen70:
Are we talking about a dead man that has since been buried

Or we are talking about an able man who has lost his bearing by neglecting his family but having fun outside with other women

You and the woman in question still don't have a point to prostitute, we have all condemned the irresponsible man.
Do you start stealing because you have been a victim of robbery? If you do then it is in your nature in the first place to steal.