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A Seed for Contemplation

Memories of past lives are stored on the next higher plane of existence, the Causal Plane.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

As you dream, you may spend a great deal of time in a more refined state of consciousness called the Astral Plane.


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Ancient Wisdom for Today

@ nwuyag

i can understand your feelings because i was once there. i will suggest that it is time for you to take a step beyond the scriptures and look for experiences with God which will remove the doubts that fill you now and show you that life is a spiritual journey.
it is time that you try practical spirituality which cuts across all religions and goes to the heart of spiritual growth which is an individual journey.
you can try the spiritual exercises which consists of singing the Holy names of God and spiritually charged words, that will open your inner being to the Holy spirit which can be seen as an inner light and heard as an inner sound. this experience will turn you into a lover of God.
you can refer to my thread on Practical Spirituality, https://www.nairaland.com/1206262/practical-spirituality, to make your pick and start your journey. your experience becomes your authority.

A Seed for Contemplation

The ECK continues to flow outward from the heart of God, even to the far reaches of the lower worlds. They are the worlds of matter, energy, space, and time. The coarsest material level, operating at the lowest frequency of vibration, is the physical plane.



ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

@ Boss13

Must I sing the HU before I get spiritual upliftment?

no. if you go back to my thread on Practical Spirituality, https://www.nairaland.com/1206262/practical-spirituality, you will see different spiritual exercises that i brought from other religions like christianity and islam which the followers even take for granted which if you practice can also get you spiritual upliftment

what makes HU unique is that it can not be abused by psychic criminals. what i mean is that if you look around you see people using the name of Jesus to cheat and dupe people, the name which is a powerful spiritually charged word has been abused so much.

the word HU which is God's Holy name is a spiritually charged word that God has given freely to all souls to use in coming back home to It and it does not belong to Eckankar nor to any other religion and has the ability to clean soul of its impurities allowing the pure love of God to flow in.

you are encouraged to try the spiritual exercises and then compare them for yourself, in terms of results and experiences. try to become a spiritual scientist, that is where the fun begins.

Also, do I get spiritual uplifement by being an Eckist?

of course you get spiritual upliftment by being an Eckist and that does not mean that you do not also get spiritual upliftment in any other religion. the main thing is to be able to shift the chaff from the main teachings and spiritual practices in the religion and practice it. that is what brings spiritual upliftment. being an Eckist means that you have now chosen to consciously grow spiritually and take full responsibility for your life and become a pure and ready channel for God's love to flow through you to all life.

A Seed for Contemplation

each plane , whether psychic or spiritual, can be recognized by its own particular sound.



ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

Self-Realization is achieved on the Soul Plane, just across the division between the lower (psychic) and higher (spiritual) worlds



ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

according to the christian doctrine, the person will go to hell straight . no mercy at all.

@ rien05

There are so many things running thru my mind. One of wch is the issue of spirit spouse dat is said to be d main cause of so many peoples predicament. How can one evaluate d existence of dis phenomenum.

when you start awakening spiritually you will come to a realization that you and you alone is the cause of all your problems and predicaments and no force outside of you is after you or out to get you.

we are our own greatest enemies. people are not ready to accept full responsibility for their actions so they hang it on one phenomenon or the other or say that the devil is after them.

confusion on the cause of one's problems comes when one has forgotten how and when he put the causes into motion and when the effects come knocking on his door he starts running helter skelter.

accept full responsibility for your life and face your problems head on and learn the lessons that come with it and you will immensely help yourself instead of chasing shadows and casting blame elsewhere.


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Another one is how well do u beliv in dreams?

Dreams are actually memories of soul's activities in the inner planes when the physical body is at rest. dream happens in real places and not the brain conjecture. as souls gradually awakens the dream worlds become more solid and real. for Eckist dreams are the starting point in the journey back to God.

Are they really a cast of the phisical world?

it is vice versa. the physical world is a cast of the dream worlds.
as above so below. the physical plane is actually a reflection or shadow of the next higher plane we call the astral and the astral is a reflection of the next plane we call the causal plane and so on. nothing can manifest in the physical plane without first manifesting in the higher planes. that is why in your dreams you still see places that look like the places you see in the physical plane.

@ rien05

Hello benodic. Do u mean to say dat throughout ur spiritual travels, u haven't hrd of souls in torment in hell?

i have not heard.

U said u'v sometimes traveled to d world of d dead, even seen dead relatives. And u beliv in heaven. Does dat mean dat ppl die and dnt go to heaven but go whr is meant for d dead?

there are many levels of heaven and when people die on earth they naturally gravitate to the level of heaven that is in harmony with their state of consciousness.

I hrd someone say there are several heavens,how true is dat based on ur experience.

my experiences proves to me that there are different levels of heaven.

Does d devil exist?

yes

I'm jst curious(no offence)

none taken.

Jesus Christ himself. so that i can get the real words of truth he spoke from the Horse's mouth and not the various versions being peddled about by his followers

A Seed for Contemplation

Sugmad exists at the heart of the spiritual worlds, in the ocean of Love and Mercy, beyond matter, energy, space or time. It is in these worlds that you take the journey from Self- to God-Realization.



ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

for me i suggest Non-christian, Non-moslem chatbox.

@ dragnet

try playstore

i have tried playstore, it is still saying error.

A Seed for Contemplation


God, or Sugmad, is the source of all the planes. From out of the Sugmad flows the ECK. It is the ECK, Divine Spirit, which supports and sustains all life in all planes.



ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

@ dragnet


thanks a lot. the problem has been solved. i can now browse with the phone
another problem is how do i download opera mini into the phone. i tried it with a wifi and it keeps on saying error and also how do i install a good antivirus.

A Seed for Contemplation

The God Worlds can best be described as planes of reality. Each plane corresponds to a certain state of consciousness and vibration.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

@ dragnet:

benodic:
my HTC desire phone internet is not working with the sim card internet even with full data subscription on it. it works only with wifi. i have gone to the internet settings and switched on the mobile internet but it did not work. i have changed network with still no show. what could be the problem and how can it be solved. thanks

have u inserted the correct apn for the respective networks ?

thanks for your response. i really do not know much about phones . how does one insert the correct apn for the network. what is apn?

my HTC desire phone internet is not working with the sim card internet even with full data subscription on it. it works only with wifi. i have gone to the internet settings and switched on the mobile internet but it did not work. i have changed network with still no show. what could be the problem and how can it be solved. thanks

@ Alcheringa

But can one have these experiences with d light &sound without been a registered member, participate of the growth/Initiations in Eckankar?
Can a non-member really do the HU exercise &hv complete experiences??

i had a lot of experiences with the light and sound from just singing HU alone for many years before i took the step of registering in Eckankar. so the answer to your question is yes.
registering in Eckankar is making a commitment and giving a formal invitation to the Mahanta to become your spiritual guide and help you as you move from one inner plane to another. so the choice is always up to the individual soul, to go the journey alone or to enlist the help of a guide who has gone through the journey and knows the way and can make it a lot easier for you.

@ Alcheringa

Thanks alot for your response sir..
I hv found some great amount of wisdom in d Eckankar teachings: Bt I still don't know d genuinity in d name Mahanta, Ek, & some of d Eck masters.

Eckankar is a spiritual path that teaches you practical spirituality. spirituality is a life to live and experiences to have which clearly shows you the existence of things that our outer senses can never perceive. in Eckankar you are advised not to believe anything until you have proved it for yourself through an inner inquiry.

likewise you can make an inner inquiry as to the authenticity of those words you are concerned about and also ask the Holy Spirit if the Eck Masters are for real. you can ask to see them if you like and i assure you that if your intentions are pure and your love for God is real, they will come to you because they are attracted to souls that have allowed the love of God to flow through them.

I find comfort anytime I do/sing the HU. I also got to know that it isn't practised by eckankar alone.
But as u said about going within because I have tried sometimes in doing the HU exercise, contemplate, bt do not reali get verbal, visionary answers as such.
Please are their other exercises u can suggest, becos I don't think I am more of a dream person.
Thank you.

The HU does not belong to any religion or language. It is a Holy Name of God that was given by God to itself and singing it draws Soul nearer to God.
when you make an inner inquiry using any spiritual exercise that is comfortable to you the answers will come in a way you will appreciate it. there will be absolutely nothing strange about it. you just have to be alert and watch for it. there are many spiritual exercises some of which i highlighted in my thread Practical Spirituality - https://www.nairaland.com/1206262/practical-spirituality

feel free to try any spiritual exercise and watch what happens and also listen to the subtle suggestions that come from within you on a spiritual exercise to try.

@ Alcheringa

Thanks alot for your response sir..
I hv found some great amount of wisdom in d Eckankar teachings: Bt I still don't know d genuinity in d name Mahanta, Ek, & some of d Eck masters.

Eckankar is a spiritual path that teaches you practical spirituality. spirituality is a life to live and experiences to have which clearly shows you the existence of things that our outer senses can never perceive. in Eckankar you are advised not to believe anything until you have proved it for yourself through an inner inquiry.

likewise you can make an inner inquiry as to the authenticity of those words you are concerned about and also ask the Holy Spirit if the Eck Masters are for real. you can ask to see them if you like and i assure you that if your intentions are pure and your love for God is real, they will come to you because they are attracted to souls that have allowed the love of God to flow through them.

I find comfort anytime I do/sing the HU. I also got to know that it isn't practised by eckankar alone.
But as u said about going within because I have tried sometimes in doing the HU exercise, contemplate, bt do not reali get verbal, visionary answers as such.
Please are their other exercises u can suggest, becos I don't think I am more of a dream person.
Thank you.

The HU does not belong to any religion or language. It is a Holy Name of God that was given by God to itself and singing it draws Soul nearer to God.
when you make an inner inquiry using any spiritual exercise that is comfortable to you the answers will come in a way you will appreciate it. there will be absolutely nothing strange about it. you just have to be alert and watch for it. there are many spiritual exercises some of which i highlighted in my thread Practical Spirituality - https://www.nairaland.com/1206262/practical-spirituality

feel free to try any spiritual exercise and watch what happens and also listen to the subtle suggestions that come from within you on a spiritual exercise to try.

@ Alcheringa

thanks for your questions. i spent hours and days on the internet scouring over all the criticisms on Eckankar and researching on those who left in order to find out why. i have read all the articles by David Lane and numerous others.

at the end of it all, i did my spiritual search and arrived at my own conclusion and that is that all the answers about truth is within you and not in any book. books are just to serve as a guide. people commit spiritual suicide by hanging their spiritual growth on just reciting what is written in a book without making any effort to go to the source of all truth which is the Holy Spirit.

if you have not learnt how to go within and find out truth for yourself then you will remain an outsider on the corridors of truth, criticising what you can never understand. no explanation i will give you will change whatever stand you have taken.

since you have made an outer enquiry on Eckankar, i suggest you balance it with an inner one. so how do you start an inner inquiry, very simple, you start from where you are.

if you are a christian, pray the way that is okay with you and then simply put a request to God or your Spiritual Master and simply ask, is Eckankar presenting truth to the world or is it a devils tool. then relax and listen for answers which will come in a way you will understand.

just try it and see. your inner experience becomes your authority.

A Seed for Contemplation


Becoming attuned to the sounds, visual characteristics, and vibrational rates of the God worlds via Soul Travel makes it possible for the seeker to achieve Self-Realization and even God-Realization in this life time.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

Learning to recognize, understand, and work with the Light and Sound of God is one of the most unique and exciting aspects of Eckankar.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

The best hotels and the most luxurious accommodations on earth seem like dark huts compared to the things you see on the inner planes. The worlds of God are light and spacious, and the joy that Soul experiences there is beyond human understanding. this is what Soul is trying to get to, and it comes through the spiritual exercises


Harold Klemp
Cloak of Consciousness

I think that the question at hand is which religions are creating the biggest problems on earth today?
The answers are best known to the followers

announcing my presence in this thread. Eckist in the house. Thanking the Mods for starting this thread.

Suggesting that this thread should also be non-moslem chatbox thread and not only non-christian.

@pagan 9ja
seriously what were you looking for in the islamic section. Do you want to convert to islam?

A Seed for Contemplation

The Mahanta can guide soul out of the worlds of illusion and help it rise above the laws of karma and reincarnation

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

Reincarnation will only continue for those who need or choose it.


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Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

From this perspective, Soul is not concerned with pain or pleasure, with riches or power. It simply is looking for its next spiritual experience and is compelled to balance Its karmic account.


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Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation


we choose our parents and our circumstances because they suit our spiritual needs.


ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today