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@ Pastor Kun

Your answer is not very convincing.

my answer was not meant to convince or prove anything to you. it was just to state it as it is. the rest is up to you what you can glean from it. the problem you may be encountering may be due to the fact that you have not yet realized who and what you are and your relationship with the Holy Spirit. when Jesus Christ stated it in the Holy Bible it was as he stated it. first that the Holy Spirit will lead you to all truth and second seek and you will find,knock and it shall be opened to you, ask and you shall receive.

if you allow your mind to throw up obstacles and doubts then you will have problems accepting the truth even when it is placed on your palms.

if you want access to any knowledge, your past life included all you need to do is go into silent contemplative prayer and ask the Holy Spirit, then listen for answers which may come in several ways so you remain alert for them.
it is really that simply. it is not an academic exercise.

@ Pastor Kun

What if I want to know and I don't have access to such knowledge?

there is always access to such knowledge. The Holy Spirit is the key to all knowledge and truth. all you need to do is to ask and you shall receive.

@ Pastor Kun

How are we supposed to learn from our previous lives if we don't have any knowledge or recollection of it

the knowledge of our previous lives is embedded in the casual body which is one of the inner bodies that soul wears. knowledge on how to access those memories are available to those who are interested to know while those who are not interested to know will have to wait till they die and cross over to the inner planes then everything becomes clear and all illusions are swept away.

A Seed for Contemplation

karma applies itself in the most exacting and clever of ways. if we deprived another human being of freedom in previous life, we'd probably have our freedom curtailed in this life. this experience would give us time to reconsider our views and learn the Law of Love.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

The Law of Karma helps us understand the effect of our actions. The process helps soul mature. The law's purpose is to teach love and to uplift, not to punish.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

the law of karma is scientific and logical. it is the spiritual form of the physical law of cause and effect. every action creates an equal and opposite reaction.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

A dream is a step on the path of spiritual unfoldment.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

The ultimate purpose of dreams is to bring the individual closer to the light and sound of God

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

@ henet:

@benodic
thanks am very gratful. But Your last answer just creat more question.
1.If lucifer is working for God, who then is devil or satan?

lucifer, devil, satan or kal are all the same. they represent the negative principle ruling the lower worlds.

And how did evil enters the world?

the world is exactly as God wants it to be. God created the lower worlds as worlds of duality, good and bad, man and woman, black and white etc. the reason why it is like that is to temper soul. as soul goes through the good and evil experiences it purifies and matures soul.

who give evil doers n all dis ritualist spiritual powers to toment others?

the powers that those people wield are called psychic powers and they are part of the powers which God has given to the Kal. these powers are used to tempt souls who value power and money more than learning the lessons of love. when they accept to use those powers they end up entraping themselves in the tight grips of kal and increasing their karmic debt which they will pay to the last kobo with interest.

such people who fall under the entrapment of using their fellow humans for money rituals should really be pitied. remember the third temptation of Jesus Christ where satan told him to bow down and worship him and he will give him the riches of the world. a lot of souls are falling into the trap of that same third temptation and paying dearly for it.

2. if every souls learn all d lessons without failing d test n enter pure heaven, d new born babies did d same n enter dis pure heaven n finaly d whole world. What will happen to dis earth since every human being ar now in heaven.wil dat mean d end of the world?if yes, where wil kal go?

if every soul finishes their lessons then there will be no need for earth or the lower worlds. they will cease to exist. Kal too will go back to the pure heavens because his mission will have finished too. there is nothing like the lake of burning fire where evil souls and satan will burn for eternity. the lower worlds were created as school for souls to grow spiritually and become mature and once they mature and pass all the various tests set by kal then they are given entrance back home to the pure spiritual planes

3.how can i know my past live?

singing HU can help to unlock your past life memories. if you sing HU before you sleep, make a silent request to the Holy Spirit that you will like to have a past life recollection then go to sleep and watch your dreams.

If it is negative, how can i change it?

you can not change your past. it is a done deal. but you can change your future by making the right choices now.

Thanks for your time.

you are welcome any time. feel free to ask any question about any thing that is bothering you.

may the blessings be.

@ henet

i like work here bt i hav som question 4 u
1. When i was a child i alwys hav a series of negativ nightmare to d point dat i hav to ask my parent d circumstances surounding my birth.wy? Does it hav to do wid my past liv?

yes it has to do with your past lives. when a soul reincarnates and wears a new body, the veil covering the memories of previous past lives is not yet fully covered and soul still have glimpses of past lives as a child and this comes through as nightmares because the human mind can not comprehend those memories. but as the child grows older the veil becomes completely covered and the recalls ceases and then the soul can then concentrate on the present life It is living.

2.dere was a tim i prayed 2 God to shw me d tru religion n wat i saw was muslem as numba1. Can u shed more light on dis?am a catholic.

you have to realize that the spiritual journey is an individual journey and a lot of paths and religions has been provided to enable souls to embark on this journey choosing the path that fits them most. on the whole, no path is superior to the other as each has a role it is playing in the scheme of things in terms of the education soul needs.

so in every soul's individual journey the path that you need to walk at any point in time is shown to you as your next step and when you are through with it another step opens. for example soul A path may require passing from christianity to islam to buddhaism while soul B's path may require the opposite. it doesn't really matter the direction what matters is what you are learning in each path you find yourself and how it is turning you into a mature soul.

3.wen i was 18yr, peopl i dnt knw alway voke me 2 kill me(real voking).nw i seek 2 knw who dey are n to fight bak. Ar my thinking in right path?if yes can eckankar do it 4 me?

Eckankar does not teach you to fight people but rather to love all life even your sworn enemies you are to give back in return nothing but love. love is the most powerful protective shield any one can have. and you acquire this protective love shield by singing the HU, a love song to God.

4.every religion beliv dey ar d pad 2 God which mak me more confused. Which oda religion do thing is right outside eckanka?

every religion teaches an aspect of God and if you are serious in any religion you find yourself and study it well you will be able to pick out the real truth in it and practice it. and forget about mostly social issues which they argue about and which does not help you in any way in growing spiritually.

there is nothing to be confused about once your focus is on God. it is only the ego of man that comes in the way as man will always want to feel superior over his fellow man and lord it over him and man is always ready to do that using any means available to him be it religion or politics or anything else. God is not interested in whatever religion you profess and always looks into the heart to see those who really loves it and its creatures. it those who love God that It reveals itself to in a way they can appreciate and understand.

5. Early dis year during my youth service i becam a seeker. Seaacher 4 d truth. I did internet research about: Eckankar,Amorc,Grail mesage, n freemanson. Bt somting hapen d day i search abwt eckanka. In my dream a saw som1 who seem 2 be eck master dress lik a priest. He was teaching me somting abwt eckanka. Bt immidiatly i ask him hw eckankar perform dia initiation, he pause 4 a wyl n i was disconected. Why?is it secret?

6.

Initiation is simply a link-up with the Holy Spirit where you are opened up to the love of God to become its channel so that this love can flow to all life. it is a very serious commitment to the Holy Spirit and Its will and not to be taken lightly. you must spend some time working on the ECK disciplines before you can request for the initiation.

U said if u can dream somting, u can do it. If som1 saw himselv wielding a magical power in his dream does it means dat he can do it in real liv?

yes of course. but still remember that if you use any power negatively you will pay dearly for it.

i always see my bother chasing me in my dream, does it means he is actualy chasing me physicaly? Though i knw he practice ocult 7yrs ago

dreams can mean a lot of things and can be telling you something in symbols. it is left for you to find out. all you need to do is to ask God the meaning of the dream and the answer will come.

7. Wy do som peopl sudenly becom rich wen d join eckankar? Ar dey(eckist) into ritual money?

i am yet to see those people you are talking about who suddenly become rich when they come into Eckankar. one thing with Eckists is that you may see them passing through life always smiling no matter what they are passing through and you may never hear them complain because we have come to have absolute inner reliance on God and follows Its will in our lives.

many people who see them with this attitude may think they are rich but it is actually spiritual riches and not the physical riches that people cherish so much. Eckist are not into ritual money because it a very negative action and any one who indulges in such pays dearly for it. seek ye first the kingdom of God and every other thing will be added onto you. there is no other path where you will find that statement being followed strictly as we do in Eckankar. it is always God first.

8. Do eckist hav alter, use color candles n incence?

no. such props are not necessary because you are already a temple of God. rather you are taught how to go to the temple within where you experience the Holy Spirit as the Light and sound of God.

9. Am a good catholic bt i strongly beliv in reincarnation.wat is d benefit of knwing ur past liv?

Reincarnation is a fact. and the benefit of knowing your past lives is that it enables you to realize that as soul you are immortal. soul wears the physical body as cloth in other to experience life on earth and when its schooling hours are over it simply drops the body and takes on another one to continue its schooling.

so this takes away the fear of death and also gives you a sense of responsibility because you realize that you are going to give account of your time on earth and where you have shortcomings will require you to reincarnate under some tough conditions in order to pay off the debt you created.

10. Who is lucifer?

Lucifer as is known in Christianity is the devil or Satan who tempts souls and try to lead them astray from God. in Eckankar we know him as the Kal. and he is the Headmaster of the lower worlds which are actually schools where souls are sent to learn and mature. it is the job of Kal to put these souls through trials and temptations to see if they have been able to learn the lessons they were sent to learn. Kal is working for God and they are not fighting at all. his job is to make sure that nothing that is impure enters the pure heavens. so as long as soul keeps on failing in the test given to It in the lower worlds it will keep on reincarnating to repeat those lessons over and over until it is ready to pass them and become a mature loving soul only then will it be able to enter the pure heavens and become a co-worker with God.

Sori my question ar 2 many bt. I hop u wil b abl 2 them. Am a seeker bt yet 2 mak a final decision.

it is okay. keep the questions coming and i will always answer to the best of my ability. there is no hurry in making a major decision concerning your spiritual direction in life. learn how to go within and ask God for the right path for you now in your spiritual journey and follow where the spirit leads you.

may the blessings be

A Seed for Contemplation

The purpose of karma is to open our consciousness and teach us a spiritual lesson.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

Dreams play an important role in spiritual unfoldment. they are a look into the heavenly worlds.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

if you are looking for universal truths that will make your life better you will find it in the Holy books. and if you are looking for contradictions, you will also find plenty of it in the holy books. this is because whether you accept it or not, the holy books were written by man in his puny attempt to grasp and capture the glory and wisdom of God and like man can never be perfect or be the final or complete word of God.
the Word of God is the Holy Spirit which is within all souls and in it we live, move and have our being and can be experienced by going to the temple within .

after going through most of the threads created by christians in this religion forum i can not help but agree with the atheists that christians are confused about their religion and one can not really say christianity is this or that as there are many versions to every concept raised with vitriotic attacks against each other. there is a lot to learn from the Bible but very little to learn from the christians who read and interpret it according to how they understand it.

A Seed for Contemplation

Dreams can give us symbols to work with, and they can give an opportunity for soul-to-soul communication

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

The goal of an Eckist is to move at will between the outer, or physical, world and the inner spiritual worlds. This can be done via the spiritual exercises of ECK and by the conscious use of dreams.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

Dreams are as real and valid as the waking state. They simply occur on a different plane of existence.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

Soul never sleeps. It is a unit of awareness. while the body sleeps, the consciousness of soul is awake. The memory of this experience is often called a dream.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

Dreams touch every level of our life. they may let us glimpse the future, or give suggestions for healing, or share insights into our relationships. above all, they can and will steer us more directly toward God.


Harold Klemp
The Art Of Spiritual Dreaming

@ chieveboy

Hi Benodic, how are you today...its been a while

well it seem l got a little question. Its about some energies-- from thought forms--l had created in the past;which l perceive them to be rather negative, and are now coming back to roost. Is there anything like sublimation round here? that is like turning them or rather channeling them to useful use? can negative energy by turned to positive one? Thanks!

negative energies coming back to roost or more like your negative karma coming back for payment are very precious gifts because it gives you the opportunity to lose dead weight and take another vital step upwards in your spiritual growth. the key is your attitude. having an attitude of gratitude and surrender to God enables you to withstand the negative wave without going under and at the end of it, you are much stronger after the experience. so the positives in the experience is the lessons you learn from it and the stronger that it makes you to becomes.
remain blessed

A Seed for Contemplation

Eckankar teaches that our destiny is to become a Co-worker with God. this means that we will be a channel for the ECK, Divine Spirit, in our lives, giving joy and spiritual upliftment to those around us.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

@ mazaje

The concept of divine justice as advocated by religions like Christianity and Islam is very unjust simple.

it is so unfortunate that those 2 religions you mentioned has gotten a lot of spiritual principles twisted upside down all because of Ego. the fall of man is actually the rise of the Ego principle and the death of the spirit of love. every one claims that what is written in their book is the ultimate truth yet there are different interpretations of the same thing written in the book and people forgot to look for the love within their hearts and use it as a guide in their dealing with others.

fortunately the laws of God are beyond the puny mind plays of man and is no respecter of any person and is totally impartial. the love of God flows endlessly to all souls and is totally impartial and does not give a damn whether you are an Atheist, Christian, Moslem, Hinduist or Buddhist. as it flows to you as soul ,you and i are supposed to be a conduit for this love to flow to all life but unfortunately that is where the problem lies. many people close their heart to this love and go ahead to inflict hardship on other souls all in the name of my religion is bigger and better than yours.
it is really very unfortunate

A Seed for Contemplation

One of the basic Spiritual Exercises of Eckankar is to sing HU (pronounced like the word hue), the holy name of God.

To practice this technique, find a quiet place to sit or lie down. Relax and think about a spiritual quotation or someone you love. Close your eyes, sing HU silently or aloud for a few minutes and then listen quietly. You may experience the Divine ECK, the Holy Spirit. Or you may gain a new insight into your life. These experiences are not the privilege of a select few. with self-discipline and commitment, you can build your own foundation of spirituality.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

The Spiritual exercises of ECK help you open your heart to the Light and Sound of God.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

Justice does not wait for the afterlife. there is true divine justice in operation in the universes and it starts here and now. The law of karma or the principle of cause and effect ensures that whatever you throw into life returns back to you.

There is no escape from it. Jesus Christ even made reference to this law when he said that God is not mocked that whatsoever a man soweth so shall he reap. This law applies to all souls irrespective of their religion or race and whether you believe or not.

It is outrageous to even think that someone can lead a life full of good deeds to fellow souls and then end up in a hellish place just because he does not believe in a particular belief.

This misconception of divine justice has lead to a lot of evil in the world today where someone believes that he can blow up fellow human beings and then enjoy in heaven or someone who has been stealing from people and committing atrocities will end up in heaven just because he believes in a particular belief. it does not work that way at all. what ever you sow you will surely reap. it is just a matter of time

A Seed for Contemplation

You can Soul Travel by learning the Spiritual Exercises of ECK.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

Eckankar teaches that Soul is a happy being. It is not guilty of anything. It is the cause of all Its life circumstances. This shifts the emphasis from blaming others to going within to find root causes. And with this new found strength it is often easier to serve others and not be so concerned with your own limitations.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

@ Rossikk

I really want to encourage you on what you are doing in this thread. I have silently followed the thread and has been enriched by it. it is not easy convincing people who know nothing about the inner planes that things are not the way they think it is.

for me growing up in a Christian home was a nightmare because as a child i had past life recalls and I knew my previous past life relationships with those in my family. but I couldn't say anything out of fear that I will be branded a devil possessed child because I was being taught in the church that you die once and after that off to heaven or hell to stay for eternity.

my past life recalls totally negated these teachings but who was I to speak out. and then I also had OBE experiences as a child and I visited beautiful places in full consciousness which I knew was not earth.
these experiences made me to start searching and trying to find if there are others who had similar experiences as me. I explored a lot of paths and religions until I finally found ECKANKAR. here was a religious organisation filled with people who OBEs and past life recalls were common topics for discussion as they have had similar experiences as mine. for the first time I felt at home.

for me now I really do not bother at all whether people believe all the experiences being described in this thread or not.The Spiritual Exercises of ECK has enabled me to cross the borders of death in full consciousness and see the wonderful planes that are on the other side.

the funny aspect of it all is seeing the scales fall from the eyes of a believer in hell or heaven, when he or she dies and all the illusions are swept away and the person faces the impartial judges of the dead who are not interested in your religion or tribe. all they are interested in is how many loving deeds where you able to carry out during your time on earth. if your score card of love is poor then you have to reincarnate and start over again and of course the person's memories are wiped off so that he or she will not remember what transpired on the other side.

so my dear keep up the good work. we will be by the sidelines cheering you on.

whether you believe in one God or many Gods or whether God created other gods or not does not matter, what still matters is how has what you believe in made you a better person that loves all life without discrimination or bias. that to me is what matters. if you like believe that a stone created you but give love to others who do not have the same believe as you and everything will fall in place. shikena

A Seed for Contemplation

When filled with the excitement and joy which comes with these spiritual experiences, you are more able to change the habits of the past. Instead of exerting willpower or fighting deprivation, you may find old habits often just drop away.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

What can Soul Travel do for you? The benefits are both subtle and far-reaching. When you realize through personal experiences that you live beyond the physical body, you are released from the fear of death. you worry less. When you realize through experience that you are a creative part of a loving God , you invite more love into your life. You feel less lonely or alienated. When you realize through experience that your life has a spiritual purpose, you will feel energized .

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today

A Seed for Contemplation

Many people experience Soul Travel as an expansion of awareness and knowingness: an inner nudge to call a friend, or seeing beyond your current difficulties to a deeper meaning. Others may have dramatic experiences full of spiritual majesty. In Eckankar, you learn to prove spiritual truths yourself through personal experience.

ECKANKAR
Ancient Wisdom for Today