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A Seed for Contemplation

Truth becomes more sublime for an individual who develops in himself the capacity to give more compassion and love to all creatures.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Soul's mission is to become a co-worker with God. it is simply that and nothing more.

Harold Klemp
How To Find God
Mahanta's Transcript Book 2

A Seed for Contemplation

The path of ECK is to teach us how to get to the kingdom of Heaven

Harold Klemp
The Secret Teachings
Mahanta's Transcript Book 3

A Seed for Contemplation

God loves Soul rich or poor. God does not necessarily love the poor more. God loves Soul. We can enjoy the things of this life and support our family with material goods with no feelings of guilt.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ LemonBoy1

Well said my bro. So "if" about milliöns soul dies (e.g a result of war, flu, plague etc) witout reaching dem period on earth, they wil al reincarnate nd return to earth to live nd struggle wit still alive souls nd fresh entries, wil it nt cos population outburst nd food scarcity thereby resulting to natural imbalance nd cømmotion dat'l mk it more difficult (esp 4 d still alive ones nd fresh entries which i think its partiality)? If ur god loves u so very much, he'l definately b eager to c u return bk to "his heart" as quick as possible, to do this, he'l hv to encourage humans to do dia best so they can return to him quickly or evn directly, is their no benefit or previlage gvn to early returnees (as it wil evn encourage peace nd moral among humans)? Y reincarnate humans into d earth to mk life harder 4 d stil alive ones nd d fresh entries (as d reincanated ones had lived a less challenging lives)

that is exactly the point. the harder earth becomes the more the souls here will remember that this place is not their home and will start looking for a way out of here. if earth is too comfortable souls will forget why they were sent here in the first place. like i said before God doesn't care how long it takes soul to finish its schooling and there is no special privilege or incentives given to any soul who makes it faster than others. it is up to the soul if it prefers recycling itself in the ashcan of the universe called earth or if it prefers to go back to its home and become a co-worker with God.

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@ Affiliated

LemonBoy1:

bros abeg, is it only on earth a soul can learn to love nd acquire spiritual maturity? What happnd in heaven? Y cnt d soul learn it in heaven? Is there no teacher in heavn? Who is d teacher on earth? What if d soul does'nt learn these tin or achieve spiritual maturity nd mayb d pesn dies untimely or evn refuses to learn at all (as par freedom)? He wil remain on earth? Religion too much oh

Are heaven and earth the only two places? Soul is from the universe[s] and will experience all the universe[s] Its the universe[s] experiencing itself
cc benodic. What do you think?

there is earth and and of course many heavens. each heaven still contains many sub-planes. soul moves from one level of heaven to another as it unfolds over many lifetimes.

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@ LemonBoy1

bros abeg, is it only on earth a soul can learn to love nd acquire spiritual maturity?

no. it is not only on earth nevertheless earth is the best place because the lessons here are harsher and cuts deeply into one's consciousness.

What happnd in heaven? Y cnt d soul learn it in heaven? Is there no teacher in heavn?

there are many levels of heaven we have the lower heavens where duality still exist and the pure spiritual heavens where there are no duality or opposites. soul came from the highest heaven, from the heart of God and while there soul existed in an unconscious state not realizing its potential or qualities. so God had to create the lower worlds of matter mixed with spirit and sent soul down there to germinate and grow through life experiences. just like you have to plant a seed in a soil and water it in order to germinate.

Who is d teacher on earth?

the teacher on earth is life itself. the various experiences you have in life creates awareness in you. souls are also aided by other souls who have gone through their own experiences and trials in life and have become spiritual masters.

What if d soul does'nt learn these tin or achieve spiritual maturity nd mayb d pesn dies untimely or evn refuses to learn at all (as par freedom)? He wil remain on earth?

like i said earlier it does not matter to God how long a soul want to take before learning its lessons because soul is eternal and does not die. when its time on earth is up it simply drops the physical body and moves into the next plane to continue existing and experiencing life there.
if it has carry over or lessons it has not finished learning on earth it simply reincarnates picking up another physical body and continues its schooling. so soul continues to come and go on earth through the process of reincarnation and picking up vital experiences and learning vital lessons about love until it is ready and matured spiritually to make the journey back home where it first came from

Religion too much oh

religion no too much ohh. it is just a matter of understanding.
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A Seed for Contemplation

This is how we work with Divine Spirit. We try to look at life and find the laughter wherever we can, whenever we can, because laughter is the healer.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ Affiliated

traeces:
So if for all intents and purposes, you are now an atheist, it is sad but true that you are not walking in faith as such unless you return God, am afraid you are not presently heaven bound.

I read with a very sad heart what was written above. the way souls are being condemned to eternal torture by the same God that Christians claim loves soul so dearly and this is where we differ. ECKANKAR teaches that God loves soul dearly that it gives soul total freedom to live it life at it deems fit. soul came from heaven to earth to learn how to love and to reach spiritual maturity after which soul goes back to heaven where it came from. no one is hell bound.

God has given each soul perfect freedom of choice to choose when it wants to come back home. there is no compulsion, there is no threat and there are millions of chances and opportunities which are of course endless. soul is also very free even not to believe in the existence of God. it really does not matter to God.

A Seed for Contemplation

Harmony in a family is a sacred thing.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ Affiliated

As regards the buddhism, i love buddhism and i can't really classify them as a religion. To the best of my knowledge they do not believe in God and to the best of my knowledge every word that came out of the mouth of the buddha is true

i am glad to see that at least there is a religion you value. i also have a lot of respect for Buddha. this is a fellow soul who made efforts to penetrate the inner domains and discover arcane truths for himself which he taught to the rest of the world. it is left for us to make similar efforts and verify what he discovered or to bring out more unfolding truth that will make our journey in life better and easier.

@ manmustwac

I will still NEVER go back to being religious because no religion can explain the existence of the dinosaurs or that the planet is more than 6000 years old. The bible even says that the world is flat and you and i know thats not true.

i am really surprised to read this. i thought that most atheists make efforts at least to study all the religions that are available on earth today before totally debunking them. are you limiting your attacks on religion on only Islam and Christianity?
seriously i wouldn't mind getting some serious criticisms from atheists about other religions as well like Hinduism, Buddhism and most importantly my own religion ECKANKAR. i have come to value these criticisms because they enable me to see things from another point of view and thereby learn some vital lessons.

funny enough, my religion recognizes evolution as very valid and even went on to explain why the dinosaurs went extinct. and more importantly my religion recognizes that the earth is very old indeed. we are talking of millions of years old.

at the end of the day every body of course is free to believe or not to believe in the existence of God if it makes you happy. i will keep on emphasizing that what matters is giving love to your neighbor without prejudice and without bias. and of course people should stop committing atrocities in the name of God.

A Seed for Contemplation

We do all we can to keep the goodwill of others as we go about gathering our rich spiritual experiences in this life. But we do recognize limits.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

seriously i really do not know why Christians keep on wasting their time arguing with atheists over the existence of God. God is big enough to convince any one directly about Its existence if it wants to. it does not need help from any puny soul to do that for It.
when a soul has reached maturity the call of soul from God breaks through the fog of confusion and non-believe and such a soul sees and hears clearly the light and the voice of God removing any doubt about the existence of God. until one is blessed with such experience it is a pure waste of time trying to convince the person. there is even no need to.

always remember the experience of Saul on the way to Damascus. prior to that he strongly believed he was doing the right thing fighting for his God by persecuting Christians until he was blinded by the light and he heard the voice telling him he was going about it the wrong way.

put your energy in purifying yourself and making yourself a better channel for God's love and giving out this love to everybody without any form of discrimination, bias or prejudice, then you are being Godlike and that is what matters.
and of course to my atheists brothers you have every right not to believe in God and nobody should harass or judge you for that. let God prove Itself to you if It really exists.
remain blessed

A Seed for Contemplation

The secret of a balanced life is to live each moment in the right spiritual frame of mind.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Prophecy can come through in the dream state, or it can come through what I call the Golden-tongued Wisdom—where something in your daily life suddenly pops forth. It’s as if golden light surrounds it and gives you whatever you need just at that moment.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

There is usually somewhat of a struggle when we move into a higher state of awareness, and that is natural. The problems in life can be dreaded with fear, or they can be seen as opportunities for growth—and a challenge.

You must make up your own mind as to what you want to do. Consider all parts of your life, the financial and emotional included, and do what seems to be common sense. Then plan and work carefully.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

People who are able to help in the work of the Holy Spirit are those who are able to help themselves.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

When you become as little children, you shall see the kingdom of heaven. You will carry no ideas from the past to hold you, none of the future to frighten you, but just the present, with the assurance that everything you need to know is already at hand—every answer, every solution.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

the only religion that is logical is the one you found for yourself at a point in time. problem is that it will be logical only to you and others in it at that point in time. once it ceases being logical to you move on and find the next logical one for you. problem arises when people want to push their own believes onto others who are not ready to see from their own logical point of view.

i just wonder how much kilojoules of love all the argument on this topic has produced. if none then all the time spent on it was simply wasted.

A Seed for Contemplation

Before we love God, we must love all things with the high kind of love, which is called charity. We become the best we can be through the discipline of divine love.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

You do what you can to make your life right. And when you have done 100 percent of everything you can do, Divine Spirit steps in with the miracle.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

If you make a meal, put love into it instead of the frustrations of your day. Because whatever is put into the food is a reflection of what you have inside yourself, and it goes out to your family, it goes out to your friends. And it makes a very real difference.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

The principles of Spirit are embedded in the literature and in the life of our culture. Truth is never hidden. It is always available for the Soul who wants to take the next step.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

unfortunately for islam, no one really cares about what a religion claims to be teaching if its ardent followers does exactly opposite of what the religion claims to teach. people will always watch what you do and not what you say.
give love and only love to all life and all will be well.

A Seed For Contemplation


Do you realize when you have the sound and light in your life you are having actual communication with God?


Harold Klemp
Love- The keystone of Life

Truth really is singular but there are different levels of consciousness and levels of understanding trying to appreciate that singular truth. The more aware you become the more you can appreciate it.

A Seed for Contemplation

By asking, you have reached out and taken the initiative—a first step that will lead you to the next answer.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

When greater amounts of divine love come in, we must give out greater service.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

When we give up attachment to
everything, including the little self,
then we find wisdom, power, and
freedom.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Life is a series of interconnected wheels. Very little can happen to you without it being known ahead of time by you. All you have to do is learn to be aware.

Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul