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@ poster
this world will a much better place if people can take your advice. the purpose of religion is to bring us closer to God and to help us learn how to love life. if people can concentrate more on the core of religion which is love and forget about the academic differences then we will have a much better world to live in

A Seed for Contemplation

Many times the bounties of the Holy Spirit are held back from us because we don’t ask. We want something to come into our lives, and we just sit and wait. But if we ask for it, we may just get it.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ e36991

@benodic

Whoa, whoa, whoa . . .

Please do not misconstrue death for final judgment

The wages of sin is death (i.e. through the sin of Adam, death entered the system. Through one man, all men die)

God is just . . .

When the time comes He will be perfectly righteous (i.e. do the right thing) in His dealings with foetuses, babies, infants, the brain-damaged etc, etc

i thought you christians has made it perfectly clear that once somebody does not believe in jesus christ such a person is going straight to hell.
so are you saying that nobody is in hell yet? or that people will enter hell after the final judgement? if so are you saying that souls are hanging somewhere waiting for the final jugement? and if so where are they hanging waiting for this final judgement.
waiting your response.

@ huxley  (m)

Quote from: alexleo on Yesterday at 02:40:15 PM
God created us in his own image thereby giving us power to choose what we want and what we don't want. Now, be it known to you that God does not create anybody for hell and he also does not force us in our choice. It is your choice that determines where you will spend eternity. When God created Adam and Eve he showed them the evil tree and told them the consequences of taking its fruits. And until they ate that fruit, their relationship with God was cordial. Today, God is warning people of the consequences of sin and those who refuse to choose God's way which is the way of righteousness end up in hell which is where the originator of sin is.

Hello,

How about those who not capable of choosing (such as foetuses, babies, infants, the brain-damaged, etc, etc)  - who makes that choice for them?  Does god know in advance where they are gonna end up?

if you follow the doctrine of original sin according to Christianity, due to the sin committed by Adam and Eve  everyone is condemned unless you accept Jesus. so from the christian perspective of course all those people you mentioned babies, infants etc. will go to hell.

from the ECK view point, such souls simple inhabit those bodies for the purpose of having experiences. such souls simply drop those bodies when they are through with the experience and can decide to pick up another body to continue their experiences on the long journey back to God. no soul is going to any hell.

@ chieveboy

one of this days l'll like to rub minds wif you @benodic, l'll like to improve from your achievements, l kind of belive you
can do little research on me, afterall you can soul-travel, and lets see Smiley, email's lilogogosa@yahoo.com! thanks and bless you!

my dear please i am not a miracle worker and i do not do research on people. if you want to know more about yourself and your relationship with God you can try singing HU the love song to God. you can learn to soul travel too and find out what you want to find out on your own. you really do not need anybody to do that for you.

@ huxley

If you believe in God and spend most of your wakeful moments doing God-related things, is there any chance that God pays no attention to you at all? Does he care about you?  Does he even know about your existence?

Believers-in-God claim that God is omniscient, ie, knowing all. If this is true, at this very moment in time, does God know all those people who are gonna end up in hell?  Does he already know all those babies born today whom he is gonna torture eternally in hell?

Believers-in-God also claim that God is omnipotent, ie capable of doing anything.  If God is omnipotent, is he capable of changing the plight of those babies born today who are gonna end up in hell?

God created all souls. but unfortunately we were not matured and could realize the qualities of God that we as souls possesses. so God created the lower universes and sent us down here to go through the experiences of life and at the end become mature and come back home to It to become  co-workers with It.

so if there is one thing that God knows it is that no one is going to any hell to burn for ever and that all souls will come back home to It as matured souls. it is only a question of time. and that time is up to you because also God gave us free will to decide when we are ready to start the journey back home. so it is all up to you.

@ Jenwitemi

Quote from: inedi on February 04, 2011, 08:03 PM
the truth can never be two sided, the truth is the truth, when a lie stays in an office for 100 years it does not make it truth. when i talk about a believer and an unbeliever, i take my stand from the bible which is tha absolute truth, and from the bible you should know this two class of persons. thank you

You don't say! Which or whose truth is it, then? Is it the catholic truth, or the jehovah witness truth, or the mormon truth, or the anglican truth, or the methodist truth, or the oyakhilome truth, or is it the oyedepo truth. . .  which truth are you talking about exactly, mr. bible inedi?

nice contribution. whose truth indeed.

but of course i do not expect them to understand. so far as one  has bottled himself up in a book he will not be able to see the truth standing right in front of him.

the  paradox to the whole christian unbeliever nonsense is that why is it then that i who do not believe in the christian doctrine am enjoying a much closer relationship with God than i ever did as a christian believer.

when i pray to God i ask for God's will to be done in my life and i ask God to manifest what i need in my life if it is for the good of all life. i do not command God to do this or do that for me because i know that Its wisdom surpasses our puny little human understanding.

the point i want to make in effect is this. God listens to everyone's prayer be you a christian, a moslem, a hinduist or an atheist etc. it does not matter to God. and It also answers all prayers from all souls. though the answer may come in a form that you are not expecting. why? because It loves all life equally.
it is us humans who create religions and go ahead to classify people into believers and unbelievers and create imaginary favorites for God.
the closer you come to God the more your heart opens to Its divine love and gradually the narrow minded judgmental attitudes that we carry which are products of the mind drops and we become like little children who lives in the moment and accept people the way they are. without judging them or classifying them.

@ lagerwhenindoubt

are you not wondering why the very active Malevolent God of the old days (smiting and smoting nations with plagues, famine, earthquakes, drought, meteor showers, tsunamis and global floods) has taken a chill-pill and allowed his boys to do the dirty work instead?

i do not think that there is any problem with God. i rather think that the problem lies with the human understanding of God.

the people of old tried to make sense of the senselessness around them and ended up creating an image of God that is even more hideous than the devil itself.

the question any sensible person should ask is why would God who created all life turn around and send some people to wipe out others in Its name. and why would God who created all life and says It loves all life suddenly start having favorites and start being jealous which are clearly negative human emotions.

does it then mean that God is really not that much different from us in our purely negative, raw and crude state? if then why then should we bother to be perfect and to be good if by being jealous, envious, full of hatred and being  killers we are already like God.
this is a food for thought

A Seed for Contemplation

Many feel that a person who spends his time soul-searching is more holy than a merchant who hawks his goods at the market. A highly spiritual person is actually one who has found the comfort zone that exists somewhere between the two extremes.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ mabell

It is the belief of some people that when they kill, they have a reward that is why they go about burning houses and families and just doing massacre
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God does not support this at all

this is the reason why our actions in life should not be based on someone else's interpretation of holy scriptures. rather we should learn how to ask God directly before undertaking any action. Father God this action i am about to do is it according to your will? then listen within for an answer. this for starters will help.

why do people kill for God? what are they actually trying to achieve by killing for God? is it really necessary to kill for God?

the essence of God is the holy spirit. This holy spirit is the origin of the life force which flows through all  life sustaining all creation.

the holy spirit dwells in every man and the only difference between one man and another is the degree of awareness of this spirit of God within us.
the starting point of a spiritual life is surrendering to the will of God in our life and allowing our lives to be guided by the holy spirit. The spirit of God is a creative force and not a destructive force. It can never direct any one to kill another man why? because The spirit is in every one. Killing another man is killing a part of God because we are all parts of God.

God gives us  the free will to come to an awareness of Its role in our life at our own time. there is no compulsion. there is no force. there is only love.
so you see it is absolutely not necessarily to kill  in the name of God. if you do you are being a channel for the negative and destructive force known as the devil and not a channel for God.

so my dear beloved souls let us remove bitterness from our hearts and give love a chance. let us know that love is all that matters and love is what will take us back to God.

@ poster

if you can not make where you are right now heavenly and comfortable for others then i am sorry, you will never make heaven.

making heaven starts right here and now. it is not about what you belief or who you believe in. it is about what you are doing with your beliefs i.e the actions your beliefs is making you carry out.

so you see it is all a matter of your consciousness. is your consciousness filled with love for all life or is it filled with hatred and discrimination against those that are different from you? the make up of your consciousness then determines your experiences and where you will end up.

contemplate on this.

A Seed for Contemplation

You cannot measure spirituality by the number of bad habits you have or not. Nor by a certain number of experiences. Awareness of the moment and a joy for living can also be an indication of where you are spiritually.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

Another quote

@ hackney

Reincarnation: if it's true then that's fine but what if its not? ?

dear Hackney, you have to realize one thing. for me reincarnation is not an academic issue and it is not something i read in a book hoping to believe in it or not to believe in it. i clearly remembered my past life and verified it for myself without any one knowing what i was doing. so my experience is my authority and not what some book or the other is saying about it.

This is one cross road that may catch people out.
Also the fact that Jesus is the way,the truth and the life.
(any beliefs that side-step these core standpoints no matter how intelligent they sound are . . . well. . . )

Jesus is the way, the truth and the life for christians.
likewise other masters are the way, the truth and life for their followers.
all these masters including Jesus are simply channels for God's truth. none of them have a monopoly over truth. they are there simply to show you how to start on your own spiritual journey back to God.

Truth really has no religion just like God does not belong to any religion. these masters does not quarrel with each other only their followers do. why? because of the fixation on the personality of these masters. the followers forget the core of their teachings and hang on the personality of their masters.

it is just like someone holding on to a signboard pointing to the road to a town instead on moving on following the directions of the signboard.
so the choice is yours. whether to hold on to a signboard or to move on and continue your journey to God following the direction of the signboard.

A Seed for Contemplation

The principles of Spirit are embedded in the literature and in the life of our culture. Truth is never hidden. It is always available for the Soul who wants to take the next step.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Learn to give, without ever thinking of a reward. That’s how to find the treasures of heaven.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

Mad_Max (f)

Most interesting. I haven't read any books on Eckanker, just took a cursory look online. Since you ask, I got my information from here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eckankar

http://www.religionfacts.com/a-z-religion-index/eckankar.htm

no wonder

Indeed the physical universe fascinates me. We do live in it. There's enough strangeness and grandeur in the universe to capture anyone. You say there are creatures who live on the other planets in the solar system but can't be detected empirically? Then life doesn't exist on those planets, does it? It's a physical universe. If it's not physical, if it's not biological, if it's not interacting directly with its own physical environment, then there's no life on that planet. Even if it's not a carbon-based life form like humans, it needs to be physical before we can say there's life on that planet, or that system or that galaxy. That there's life on physical planets that I cannot see with my physical eyes tells me nothing at all.

in the vastness of the physical universe of course there are varied ranges of life. from the biological ones you can touch and feel physically to the ones that are existing on a supra physical level. there are intelligent biological physical beings just like man that live in other planets far away in other constellations. one day in the future some of them may make it to earth in space craft. by then mankind will then know that they are not alone in the physical universe.

the ones on the supra physical level i was talking about are the ones existing on the planets in our solar system. the vibration of the atoms that make up their body is higher than ours that is why we can not see them with our ordinary physical senses.

to illustrate water in gaseous state can not be seen with the physical eyes but it is still a physical object interacting with the physical environment.
when its vibration is reduced you can then see and feel it as liquid matter. the life that exists in planets like mercury, venus and mars is in that form of higher physical vibration because life in a lower vibration can not survive there.

Your posts are really interesting. It's raised more questions - temples of Golden wisdom, consciousness of man raised, etc? but I don't want to weary you. I'll read Twitchell's book sometime soon. I hear it's well researched; it'll be a joy to read. Maybe I'll check out Klemp's book after that. I already like him. Thanks benodic. You're a patient soul.

i am here for you. it is not wearying at all sharing my little knowledge about life. if you can get any of those books it will really make an interesting reading so enjoy yourself. but feel free any time to ask me any thing that you want more input on.

remain blessed

@ boule_blch

thanks Benodic
i'll we work on all this a few days, and see what's coming up
thank you for your help

you are welcome my dear. feel free to ask any question. i will do my best to address it to the best of my ability.

@ boule_blch

thank you very much Benodic
i'm was not around these two days
yours answers are very useful for me and they help me to understand many things
Apart from meditation, prayer and contemplation how can i use a secret word ?

the secret word is meant to raise your state of consciousness. you can also sing it quietly within yourself as you are going through your days work.

Do you think that a secret word can be separate, break in syllable, and each syllable used separately ?

you can experiment with your secret word. use it in many patterns and see what happens. as soul you have to be bold and adventuresome and creative. what matters is for you to use what works for you.

@mad max

Absolutely fascinating, benodic. Thank you for sharing this. I understand why you say to me, 'Prove it yourself, experience it yourself.' You may have had experiences that are impossible to render in words or  adequately describe. Still, this isn't about proving a thing to others but explaining what constitutes proof of belief for YOU. I very much doubt I'd be skeptical. We wouldn't be talking if I thought you made things up. I don't think anything remotely like that.

ok i understand .

You say you had memories of a past life as a child. How did you know what they were ? How did you know they were memories of a past life instead of some other thing it could have been? What brought the memores to the surface? Was it spontaneous? It's not something that's happened to most people at that or any other age; why you? Especially since you didn't ask for it?

my father took me home to my village at around the age of 4 years. he took me to my maternal uncle's house. as we approached the house, the memories opened up. i remembered having lived in that same house as an adult. i remembered having problems with my uncle who was my senior brother then. the memories came flooding up inside my mind. i was so frightened. but i kept the experience to myself. the reason why i was able to remember that particular life time so vividly was because the house was exactly the way it was when i lived there. it has not changed. my uncle now was exactly the way i remembered him. he has not changed much. the time interval between my death in that life and my reincarnation was very short. these factors caused the memories to surface.
the reason most people do not remember their past lives are usually due to the fact that they may have reincarnated at a place that is very different from where they were before so there is nothing to trigger the memories. also if someone spends a long time in the inner worlds before reincarnating a lot of things would have changed so the person will not remember.

naturally children are very open to the spiritual worlds before the age of 6. so some of them may have those recalls but it will appear as nightmares. and moreover when the child is now told that such things are nonsense he or she will come to regard it as nonsense too.

I read that Harold Kemp is the third Eck master. Eckanker was begun in the 60s by its first master.  Sufi Islam is much older, I think, though I may be wrtong. How could a 20th century ECK master have taught the sound HU to a body of ancient sufi doctrine? Isn't it possible sufis acquired it before Eckists? That it was for Eckanker a truth its first amster discovered in Sufism, not the other way round? It's not, after all, a contest. As you rightly said, the things of God belong to all.  I hope you're not offended by this question. I sense your sincerity and  your generosity of spirit.  Unless you believe a thing to be true, you would not say it.

i wonder where you are getting your information from.   i have never had a good laugh for quite some time.

Sri Harold Klemp is the 973rd Living Eck Master in an unbroken line of Eck Masters. what you have to know is that the teachings of Eck have been in every age and every civilization but mostly underground and behind the scenes according to the consciousness of the times.
the teachings was mostly given to ready souls in the inner directly because of persecution as Man was not ready for Truth and will readily kill any one who is teaching any thing contrary to what He expectsor believes.

In 1965, the consciousness of Man took a big leap and it was agreed among the spiritual hierarchy to externalize the teachings of Eck as a lot of Souls are now ready for them. Paul Twitchell the 971st Living Eck Master was chosen to bring the teachings to the public. and so started the Eckankar Movement.
Shamus was the Living Eck master who taught the sufis the word HU through his student Rumi who was a moslem. like i told you earlier. the HU does not belong to any body and is for all to use.

Could you share some more of the things you've seen and experienced in your travels?  Please don't worry that it'll sound strange. I was partucllarly intrigued by what you described as consciousness expansion. How you don't leave your physical body to soul travel. It's bi-location. You're fully conscious in two separate realities at
the same time. You know humans have travelled to the moon and the Voyager crafts have gone beyond Pluto. Our solar system stops at the Oort Cloud two light years away. Two light years is an enormous distance. The sun is 8 light minutes away. But there are distances in millions and billions and trillions of light years in the universe.
The scale of things, both great and tiny, is beyond our faculties. We'll probably never travel by conventional craft to the edge of our own Solar system, much less get to the edges of our galaxy, much less explore other galaxies in the universe.

As Eckists your consciousness travel, and you explore other realms and realities. Would you say it's possible for a consciousness to soul travel the universe, visit galaxies and roam stars? Observe other civilizations, other forms of life in the universe, far from home? Have you done this? Have other Eckists? If not why not? The consciousness cannot know the limitations of physics and can go anywhere. Have Eckists travelled the universe? What have they found?

the question is what is the purpose of soul travel? we do not just soul travel for the fun of it. to go junketing to one end of the universe just for the fun of it. the purposes of soul travel are:
1. to show you that you are soul and you are deathless. even when you drop the body you continue existing in other realms.
2. to explore the heavenly realms and see for ourselves its veracity.
3. to visit the temples of Golden wisdom in the other planes and learn the wisdom of God directly from source without pollution from the mind.
4. to become aware of our connection with all life. that there is no difference between you and the other person. it is only the mind that makes such judgements.
5. to open our consciousness to the light and sound of God.

since you are so curious about the physical universe, then i will tell you that yes you can travel to the ends of the physical universe and beyond if that is what interests you. Eckists leave their human consciousness on a daily basis and explore the inner worlds where the vast panorama of life is displayed.

life does exist in the other planets in the solar system. but they are on a higher supra physical vibration just like water vapour and you can not see them with your physical eyes.
the next plane after the physical universe is the astral plane. i have met people there who have translated from earth and the funny thing is that they do not even know that they are dead. they just keep on carrying on with their existence there totally ignorant of their state or where they are.

for us in Eckankar we bother mostly with opening our consciousness to the light and sound of God and surrendering to the will of God in our life. the light and sound which is the twin aspects of the holy spirit enters your consciousness and purifies it turning you into a co-worker with God. a servant of the highest order.

@ Cmanforall

Hi benodic,you say you have thousands of experience & proofs.My question is,don't you think you can easily get those experience & proofs if you were a grail message adherent,Buddhist,Amorc e.t.c.you all do soul travel or is that of ecks different
then why is everybody's own different?are there millions of planes or is everybody seeing what they want to see.My point is,if you had come across one of the sects above b4 eckankar,may  b you'll b writing contemplation seeds about them BC they definitely will have answers about your past life.

first you have to know that Eckankar was not my first religion. before i became an Eckist, i had studied the works of the the grail message i.e in the light of truth. i had also read books from Amorc and Buddhism. i also tried some of the techniques given by the Amorc group. so i have a little knowledge of these groups.
there is a very thin line between what we call psychic arts and true spirituality. what is practiced in Amorc is astral travel and not soul travel. there is a very big difference. astral travel is very dangerous and is limited to the astral plane.

soul travel is very natural and uses the faculties of soul and you do not leave your body in order to soul travel. you simply expand your awareness to other areas of existence that your physical senses normally can not access. you can do that even when widely awake and alert

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I know the most important thing is to love your neighbor as yourself but when you all show love & still have different views about soul travel,Jesus Christ,e.t.c then somebody is wrong or how do you know the ecks are right?

my dear you have to understand that the reason for all these experiences is to make you at the end a lover of life.
it does not matter what you belief or do not belief in. and also it is not a question of who is wrong or right. what matters is are you in a close one on one relationship with God? that is why Jesus says by their fruits you will know them.

please take a very good look at 1 Corinthians 13 where st Paul talked extensively about love. all these things soul travel, spiritual healing, past life recalls all mean nothing if at the end of the  day it did not open your heart to God's love enabling you to love all life without discrimination. so my dear LOVE or CHARITY is the ultimate. focus on It

  Thanks & stay blessed.

@Mad_Max (f)

When I reflect closely I neither agree nor disagree. What I agree with depends on the proofs furnished. It's not a challenge, merely a desire to understand.

you are the one to prove these things for yourself. because as they said, the taste of the pudding is in the eating. even if i list for you 100 experiences i have had, you are still going to be skeptical and take it that i made them up.

i remembered my friend in school who was very skeptical about soul travel. i told him to just try the singing of the HU and ask God that he wants to know the reality of the heavenly realms. one early morning he rushed to me room so excited and told me about a very vivid fully conscious soul travel experience he had. i knew then that i need not say more to him. one experience tells it more succinctly than a million words.

I read the W page on Eckanker and learnt the HU came from Sufism, the deeply spiritual offshoot of Islam.

what you have to know is that true spirituality has no boundaries and is available to any one who wants to know. the HU was given to the Sufis by a Living Eck Master of that time because they were ready to take the next step spiritually. The HU is not a property of any religion or any group. it is a gift that God has given to all souls to use in finding Its way back to It.

Eckists accept nothing without proof, which is a refeshing change from the conventional religions. I'd like to understand some of the proofs, and other things. Of course spiritual things can't be proven empirically in a lab. Nevertheless many have what constitutes proof of the veracity of their beliefs, and I'd like to know what these are in Eckanker.

for starters you are told that God communicates with us through the Light and Sound which is the twin aspects of the Eck or Holy Spirit.
if you remember the holy Bible, during the pentecost, it was reported that there appeared on top of each person a tongue of fire and there was the sound of wind that swept through the room then after that experience they became bold to preach the gospel.

these experiences of the Holy spirit is still happening today. if you sing the HU, a process of spiritual purification starts and all the dross that covers your spiritual eyes and ears are cleared away. then your spiritual eyes and ears opens and you will start hearing the various sounds of God and you will also see the light of God in your inner vision.

these are experiences are common place to us Eckists. other things like dream travel, soul travel, spiritual healing etc. comes along. it is a very gradual process and there is no hurry or rushing at all. these experiences over time turns you into a lover of life. you grow above religious sentiments, tribal sentiments and all you desire to do is to serve life without any discrimination.

thanks for your questions. i will still be happy to shed light on any issue you want addressed

@Mad_Max (f)

When I reflect closely I neither agree nor disagree. What I agree with depends on the proofs furnished. It's not a challenge, merely a desire to understand.

you are the one to prove these things for yourself. because as they said, the taste of the pudding is in the eating. even if i list for you 100 experiences i have had, you are still going to be skeptical and take it that i made them up.

i remembered my friend in school who was very skeptical about soul travel. i told him to just try the singing of the HU and ask God that he wants to know the reality of the heavenly realms. one early morning he rushed to me room so excited and told me about a very vivid fully conscious soul travel experience he had. i knew then that i need not say more to him. one experience tells it more succinctly than a million words.

I read the W page on Eckanker and learnt the HU came from Sufism, the deeply spiritual offshoot of Islam.

what you have to know is that true spirituality has no boundaries and is available to any one who wants to know. the HU was given to the Sufis by a Living Eck Master of that time because they were ready to take the next step spiritually. The HU is not a property of any religion or any group. it is a gift that God has given to all souls to use in finding Its way back to It.

Eckists accept nothing without proof, which is a refeshing change from the conventional religions. I'd like to understand some of the proofs, and other things. Of course spiritual things can't be proven empirically in a lab. Nevertheless many have what constitutes proof of the veracity of their beliefs, and I'd like to know what these are in Eckanker.

for starters you are told that God communicates with us through the Light and Sound which is the twin aspects of the Eck or Holy Spirit.
if you remember the holy Bible, during the pentecost, it was reported that there appeared on top of each person a tongue of fire and there was the sound of wind that swept through the room then after that experience they became bold to preach the gospel.

these experiences of the Holy spirit is still happening today. if you sing the HU, a process of spiritual purification starts and all the dross that covers your spiritual eyes and ears are cleared away. then your spiritual eyes and ears opens and you will start hearing the various sounds of God and you will also see the light of God in your inner vision.

these are experiences are common place to us Eckists. other things like dream travel, soul travel, spiritual healing etc. comes along. it is a very gradual process and there is no hurry or rushing at all. these experiences over time turns you into a lover of life. you grow above religious sentiments, tribal sentiments and all you desire to do is to serve life without any discrimination,

@ MyJoe

Happy New Year Mad_Max. And DS and benodic!

happy new year to you too.

@ Deep Sight (m)

On a side note, your posts have intrigued me in terms of your overall worldview. May I have your permission to open a thread to discuss some of your views. I know I am notorious as some sort of argueholic, but i promise you that my intention is not to argue anything with you at all. I only wish to see light in your world-view and possibly be enriched thereby. So this will be like a short interview of sorts, if you permit. I have run this sort of thing with several other posters here. Such as Pastor AIO -

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-335826.0.html

I think it could be rewarding as we learn a thing or two.

there is no problem. you have my permission to open the thread. i will be very glad to share my little knowledge with you.

@ Mad_Max

Each religion has its attractions. Can I ask what attracted you to Eckanker?

as a child i had vivid past life recalls. i remembered who i was in my past life and my relationships with those around me. i was surrounded by the christian teachings then that did not believe in reincarnation so i kept my experience to myself. when i was older.
i made investigations and asked my father and mother about the person i was in my immediate past life. they did not know why i was asking those questions.
the answers i got collaborated the memories i had about that life. so i went about my search for the truth quietly which took me through different paths and different religions and philosophies. until i came across the teachings of ECK. Eckankar answered all my spiritual questions. with proof and started me on my journey back to God.

How do Eckists define God?

God can not be defined. It has to be experienced. this is because in the realm of pure spirit, the mind does not exist there and can not function there as the mind is  a creature of the lower world. you have to leave the mind behind and go into this pure spiritual world as pure soul which is your true self.

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You say Eckists don't accept a thing unless it's proven to be true. Refreshing. Who determined the sound by which God created the universe; how did he or she come to know that it's HU?

there are matured souls that we call the spiritual travelers who are able to make spiritual journeys into the heavenly realm of God. they come back to report what they saw and experienced in these realms. these are the ones who reported that issuing forth from the ocean of love and mercy which is the highest realm so far explored by them is this wonderful sound of HU which pervades all universes and from which all universes was fashioned. if you so desire they can help you to make this journey yourself and see  and hear for yourself.

How do you,as a person, know it's true? What was the proof that was given?

when i came into Eckankar, i was given the HU to sing as a love song to God.  at first i was very skeptical about it. but i decided to go ahead and give it a try. now so many years later with thousands of experiences and proofs for myself where do i start and which experience do i relate.
i proved it for myself. you see in Eckankar. we do not try to convince people that ECK is real or any of that stuff. you have to be ready. because the journey back to where we came from is not an easy one at all and it is one that you and you alone must undertake and no one will be on the sideline clapping or cheering for you.

The emphasis in Eckanker is soul travel, crossing into alternate realities, leaving the body behind, and learning spiritual lessons from what you find, the aggregate of these experiences. Fascinating. Naturally, bi-location is involved, yes? Your biological body and senses are alive and functioning normally while these travels are undertaken?

soul travel is just one of the steps you take on your journey back to God. the ultimate is developing divine love for all life and loving life the way God loves all life. soul travel helps in developing this love. soul travel simply means expansion of your consciousness. you are not really leaving your body to fly to anywhere. you are just opening up your spiritual senses to become aware of the spiritual worlds that are really within you. you can be fully awake and walking along the road with all your physical senses fully alert and still be soul traveling at the same time.

When your soul leaves the body, how do you know where to go? Who charts your course?

as a beginner in soul travel of course you need a guide. and our guide is the Mahanta, The Living Eck Master. He has made these journeys and he knows the geography of the inner worlds. he takes you step by step through the various spiritual planes if you permit him.

How do you determine that the realities and planes you travel to are external and valid, and not something you're unknowingly generating yourself, or something that is being generated for you?

this is what spiritual training does for you. you start being able to know which plane you are on and what happens in each plane. the originality of these experiences shows you that it is not something you are generating yourself.

for example in the causal plane is where you see things that will happen in the future. in my early days in Eckankar when i was doubting the experiences i was having i once had a soul travel experience and i saw myself outside our house.
i was surprised that instead of 3 communication masts that used to be at the Nitel office near our house there was only one. i ignored the experience and relegated it to the background. after about 7 years i came back home and was surprised to see that there was only 1 mast as i had seen in my experience. my siblings told me that 2 masts  were  dismantled. so what i saw in my experience was a glimpse of the future.

Can two separate Eckists unknown to each other visit the same reality and find the same thing, much like two people would go to, say, New York? Do shed some light on these.

definitely yes. if you go through the Eckankar journal you will find lots of such stories. in the inner worlds, there are temples of golden wisdom where people go to learn the wisdom of God. many Eckists do go there and can meet each other there and remember fully the experience.

i hope i have tried in my little way to shed some light. still feel free to ask any questions you have.
thanks

A Seed for Contemplation

The way to work with Divine Spirit in our daily decisions is to consider quite honestly: What would I really like to do?

One must put aside thoughts of asceticism, thinking that God loves us more if we are poor. A business decision must be made using all input that’s available. What’s good for me, my family? It must allow one to grow.

Any decision is not without setbacks, for that’s the nature of life. What sets you apart is that you give it your best effort and more, staying open to the subtle nudges of Divine Spirit.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

When you ask for help, Spirit begins to bring changes that are for your good. Of course, this means you must be extra careful in the choices you make. Before Spirit can make any changes, you must develop a better image of yourself: You are Soul. God’s love is for you.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Prophecy can come through in the dream state, or it can come through what I call the Golden-tongued Wisdom—where something in your daily life suddenly pops forth. It’s as if golden light surrounds it and gives you whatever you need just at that moment.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

The quest for God is the quest for true happiness.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

When we give up attachment to everything, including the little self, then we find wisdom, power, and freedom.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul