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@ inedi

Quote from: benodic on Yesterday at 02:44:14 PM
@ poster
the Supreme God is so far removed from the human conditions and behaviours and relates only with souls in their pure forms.

It does not have emotions. it does not have a mind and so does not analyze issues. it does not have a material body.
to approach It you have to go beyond the emotions and you have to go beyond the mind to the world of pure spirit where exist no opposites and where all things are one.

my friend the way you even adress God in your writing is amazing to me ooooh, how can you address God as it, pls in case of next time, address Him as He, because God is a person, he has a personality. after all the bible says God is a jeloyuse God, and jelousey is a function of fellings, so i think God has emotions

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i addressed God exactly the way It is. God is not a man or a woman. It is formless. comprising of a body of pure light that only purified souls can approach.

for you to understand my point of view, you have to be ready to go beyond what people are telling you about what God is and what any book or scripture is telling you about God.

you have to be ready to step into your own inner worlds and meet God in the kingdom within. after the experience you will then realize that a lot of things circulating in the world today about the nature of God are mere fallacies.

the question is, are you ready?

a pure heart is a loving heart. it is a heart that has been opened to the inflow of the holy spirit and it seeks only to allow this love to flow to all life. to flow to all people irrespective of their tribe, language or religion.

it is a heart that has tasted the bliss that comes from basking in the presence of God and only seeks to serve all life with no thoughts of selfishness. it is a heart that does not judge. it is a heart that sees no faults but is committed in helping others to grow in their own way and in the path they have chosen.

@ poster
the Supreme God is so far removed from the human conditions and behaviours and relates only with souls in their pure forms.

It does not have emotions. it does not have a mind and so does not analyze issues. it does not have a material body.
to approach It you have to go beyond the emotions and you have to go beyond the mind to the world of pure spirit where exist no opposites and where all things are one.

remmy007 (m)

@Benodic, you are doing a wonderful job here. Keep it up my friend.

If you don't mind, I will love to have a personal chat with you. kindly text your fone number to me@ 08098337364.thanks.

thanks for the compliment. expect my no. soon

@ mad_max

Interesting. But what about people named Hu? You know, like that Chinese President? So anyone who calls the guy gets unexpected benefits from the universe, since, you know, they'd be calling Hu? I'm teasing,of course. I knew some Eckists as a kid, and they were good people. Will definitely check out your tenets and read Sir Klemp. Should be intriguing. Thanks

it doesn't matter if people answer the name HU. the effectiveness is in singing it in a long drawn out way viz-a-viz HUUUUUUUUUUUUUU. you take in a deep breath and and on the outward breath you sing it. you do that for 15 to 20 minutes daily and watch out for your inner experiences. you can then judge for yourself.
thanks

@ boule_blch

thank you very much Benodic, you understand perfectly what i'm talking about.
you are right, the symbol we see in dream and his meaning is unique for each of us. Because of our culture, our religion, our faith,
for the connection with holy spirit, i use to speak in tongue, or to sing some holy words. But i use to do it before sleeping, now i'll try it also when i wake up, to understand my dreams. Thank you very much.
But when you say that i must "record all my dreams", i have a little problem with that. It's seems that when you receive a holy word or holy name or secret name in dream, it's forbidden to tell this name to somebody, to pronounce it aloud or to write it. Is it true ? Do you know something about this question ?

any secret name or word that you receive in a dream is strictly for your own use. you are not to write it down or say it aloud where people can overhear it.
such words are given to people to enable them connect directly to the holy spirit. any sacred word you receive in your dream you are to use it in your prayers and contemplations before sleeping and after waking up.

over time it will gradually clear the darkness that covers the light of God in your inner worlds and you will come to experience the pure light of God that brings inner peace, wisdom and freedom.
remember that the word may change from time to time. when you receive a new word you are to discard the old one and start using the new immediately.

each new word you receive matches your current state of consciousness at that point in time. that is why spirituality is an individual journey and not a group jamboree. help is always given to any individual who ask for it.

i will still be glad to help with any question you have.
thanks

@ boule_blch

thank you for your quick answer
I'm was thinking that you were talking about real dream (dream you do, when sleeping).
Sometimes you receive messages in dream, and when you wake up, you don't know how to understand and achieve that message
or you make an encounter, in the dream, but you don't know how to affect what is going on in the dream.
It was from that angle I'm was asking the question.
Have you an idea about that ?

actually in ECK we take the study of sleeping Dreams very seriously. why? because Sleeping Dreams is actually the tool that the Holy Spirit uses to communicate with us.
Dreams are the window of heaven. the study of dreams is not a one day affair. it takes time for one to study it and to learn to understand dream. why? because each of us is unique. that means that what may make meaning to you in one way may mean another thing to another person.

so the dream symbol of each person is unique to that person. the starting point of understanding your dreams is first you need to have a dream book. where you start recording all your dreams. then after each dream go into a silent contemplation and ask the holy spirit to reveal to you its meaning. record anything that flashes across your consciousness.

purifying your state of consciousness before you go into a silent contemplation can help. this you can do by singing as a song any holy name or any holy word that appeals to you. for example if you are a christian you can sing the word Jesus as a love song or the word Christ or even the word God. in a long drawn out way. singing holy words as a love song helps to open the link between you and the holy spirit. you can also try the holy name of God HU.
doing this also before you sleep will also help in making your dreams clearer and of a more spiritual content

this is the starting point. as you continue this practice the link between you and the holy spirit will become stronger and you will be able to start understanding and interpreting your own dreams and will also be able to carry out any guidance you receive from it that is for the betterment of yourself and all life.

i will be happy to clear up any areas you do not understand.
thanks

A Seed for Contemplation

You can’t make yourself closer to God by hating someone else, whether you believe it’s righteous anger or not. The relationship between Soul—which is you—and God is one of love. And where there’s pure love, there is no room for anger of any kind.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

Another quote

A Seed for Contemplation

Becoming a conscious vehicle for God requires that you become the very best you can possibly be, no matter what you choose to do.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

in my own religion, Eckankar, repentance means one now accepting total responsibility for all his actions and not blaming anybody for whatever he/she sees in his/her life. there is no forgiveness of sins. whatever you sow, you will reap. that is the law of karma or the law of cause and effect. so if you want goodness in your life then go out and sow the seeds of goodness. it is that simple.

@ boule_blch

Quote from: benodic on December 20, 2010, 08:56 PM
A Seed for Contemplation

If you can dream something, you can do it.

As long as you do not align your actions with your dreams, you are not fulfilling your destiny.

—Harold Klemp

good evening benodic,
please, can you give more explanation about this ?
thanks

whatever it is you want to be or to achieve in life is very possible. the only thing is that you have to start working towards it.
you do not just dream about becoming an accountant for example then you fold your hands. you have to study the course and work through any obstacle that may come your way.
that is what is meant by aligning your actions with your dreams.

will be happy to answer any other question you have
thanks

@ mad_max

Why HU though? Why not, I don't know, Q or Vee or Waaa?

very interesting question you asked. HU is the holy name of God which has not been adulterated or abused by mankind. it is a name of God that does not belong to any language or any religion. it is the sound with which God created all the universes and it is behind all sounds. that is why singing the HU is a very good step in beginning one's spiritual quest.

one interesting thing in ECK is that we are spiritual researchers. we do not just accept any concept without proving it for ourselves. so you too can go into a quiet prayer and ask within yourself. why HU? watch what happens.

What does HU do?

the HU does a lot of things.
1. it opens your heart to the sweet divine love of God.
2. it opens your spiritual eyes to see and explore the inner heavenly worlds that lie within you.
3. it gives you divine protection.
4. it also gives you divine guidance.
5. it removes all negativity from your mind.
6. it gives you spiritual purification.
7. it also gives you spiritual healing.
8. it enables you to remember your dreams and to understand your dreams.
9. it enables you to see the future and to remember your past lives that are relevant to your spiritual growth.
10. it removes the fear of death from you and enables you to embrace life's experiences fully.

these are just a few of what the HU can do for you. at no cost at all. you do not have to become a member of Eckankar to sing the HU. The HU is
God's gift to all souls.

Your contemplation seeds are very lovely. But why only Harold Klemp? Is he the founder of Eckanker? I hope it's not a personality cult, all about the man and all that? Will check out your website.

thanks for your compliment. the contemplation seeds i am posting is from a book written by Sri Harold Klemp who is the current Mahanta, The living Eck Master. he is the 973rd Living Eck Master. there has been other masters before him. so you see it is not a personality cult. once his tenure is over He will hand over to another person who then becomes the current Living Eck Master.

A Seed for Contemplation

You find you get a great deal of love and interest from just looking after the well-being of those Souls who are looking to you for some of their spiritual food.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

The tests that are easy for us are difficult for others. This is the nature of life. And it means that we, as human beings, must learn patience and compassion. The wheel always turns.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

The principles of Spirit are embedded in the literature and in the life of our culture. Truth is never hidden. It is always available for the Soul who wants to take the next step.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

As we raise ourselves in the spiritual consciousness, we are better able to solve the problems of life. We are happy. We are at home in every environment.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

When you get out of the habit of listening, the voice of Divine Spirit becomes weaker and weaker. Not because It is speaking in a quieter voice, but because you have turned down the volume control on the inner instrument of Soul.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

People of the golden heart are full of love and have the ability to give of themselves. They are the shining lights.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ Mad_Max

Your contemplation seeds are really nteresting, benodic. Don't know much about you guys. I think you chant UUUUUUUU a lot.

thanks a lot mad_max for your comment. there really is not much to know about us. it is simply all about love. love for God and love for your fellow souls.
the HU song that we sing is a love song to God. consistent singing of The HU song opens our heart to the love of God. and when you become filled with this love of God, giving love to your fellow soul then comes naturally to you.

http://www.eckankar.org/hu.html

above is the link to the section on the eckankar website where you can get more info on the HU song and you can even download it and listen to some people singing it so that you can know what it sounds like.

the HU is for everybody to use in order for one to experience first hand the wonderful bliss of God's love for us.

thanks

A Seed for Contemplation

You can’t make yourself closer to God by hating someone else, whether you believe it’s righteous anger or not. The relationship between Soul—which is you—and God is one of love. And where there’s pure love, there is no room for anger of any kind.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Every problem contains a solution. The key is self-discipline and surrender of the mental habits to the Holy Spirit.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

It’s a pleasure to be around someone who’s shining with the Light of God. People don’t always understand what’s going on, or why this person is drawing them toward him. But there’s something special there.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

A Co-worker with God is someone who has learned self-discipline in spiritual things.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Truth is so simple. So why doesn’t everybody know it? Because it’s too simple. Because we have our preconceived notions about what truth is or what it should be.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ alaper

The bottom line is that you have not addressed the question in the post. Everything you feel, everything you see and hear in christianity: prophesy, miracles, testimonies, adherents of other religions also feel and see similar things!!! It is not rational to claim that what they see in their own religion is false, and only what YOU feel and see is true. As at the last count, UNESCO counted about four thousand five hundred different gods being worshiped in various parts of the world. All of them have their devout adherents, who are really to die for their beliefs. And many have indeed died for those beliefs. Some have their sacred texts, their own creation stories, miracle claims, testimonies of prophesies fufilled healings etc. Many of their followers feel just as strongly as you feel about christianity, maybe even stronger. I doubt if you are ready to die for your faith. Not now when your money has just started rolling in . Wink Wink Wink Each one of you is claiming anyone who doesn't agree with your belief is going to hell!! Huh Huh Huh At least you can understand why an outsider may be confused. Commonsense dictates not all of them can be true. I will go even further, none of them is true!! Tongue Tongue Tongue

i seriously agree with you in some areas. this was exactly the problem i had when i was a christian and we were meant to believe that everybody else was going to hell.
i had to embark on my personal search for the truth. i started researching all the religions in the worlds praying fervently for God's guidance. what i arrived at is that no religion is false. all are just trying to make attempt at understanding the great mystery of God. and of course none has the whole truth just parts of it.

if you really want to find out the real truth for yourself then you have to be ready to ask God one on one to show you the truth. It surely will. when you are ready for the truth.

A Seed for Contemplation

Truth does not operate in a vacuum. People who’ve been touched by truth try to express it in their daily lives: within their family, business, or religion.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Every problem contains a solution. The key is self-discipline and surrender of the mental habits to the Holy Spirit.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

If you can dream something, you can do it.

As long as you do not align your actions with your dreams, you are not fulfilling your destiny.

—Harold Klemp

A Seed for Contemplation

Troubles that come to us are for our purification. They come to us because we must learn a divine law.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

@ mrcuteblac

Hi all. All this talk about spirituality is a dead end. Who can prove soul-travel? Who can even prove the existence of God or Jesus on His right-hand side? Even the truth of the Bible, no-one can proof! If some experienced scholar wanted to prove the historical Jesus, he would succeed. If another scholar chose to negate it, he would also succeed.n Now, Echkankar contains the basic truths that you will find in any spiritual tradition: love, existence of soul, existence of lower and higher realm which might just be the structure of your psyche, etc. These in themselves are good thing. The only mistake is to trust another human being as your spiritual guide. Even the Jesus you will ever know as a Christian is only YOUR idea of Christ. This might be shocking to hear, but that is how it is. Eckankar does not negate God's power and existence. Neither does Catholicism, but I would never take a priest as my CONNECTION with God, nor an Eck master. The truth is easy, but difficult at the same time. Has it ever crossed your mind that the protective tactics in Christianity can play against our own Christian religion? For instance, an angel of darkness can disguise as the angel of light. Now, how do you know whether even the bible or Koran was not written through an angel of darkness that REALLY knows how to pretend to be the true God? When this question hits you, you really wake up.

any angel of darkness or any evil spirit will melt away once you call on the holy name of God. in Eckankar we are taught the art of true discrimination. that is, how to challenge any spirit that appears to you. if the spirit is of God it will not vanish on calling on the holy name of God. so for us such is not a problem. the master does not force himself on anyone. he will only offer help if you request for it.

A Seed for Contemplation

Soul, a particle of God, is blessed with the gift of creative imagination, which finds a solution for every problem.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul

A Seed for Contemplation

Divine Spirit often begins working for our welfare after we have made some small effort first.

The love and protection of Spirit surround you at all times but must be accepted with a loving heart.

—Harold Klemp
The Language of Soul