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Walahi....I need Calvin at Liverpool!😊😊

Delay or trying fruitlessly to insert false stats just to please bulaba?

This is what I refer to as 'shut up' gift!

femi4:
Na today

Some players have done that in the past

Some people but not Salah!
He is an Egyptian king!
He is loved by many and his decision to not play the 3rd place game will give his already increasing haters the ammunition to attack him!
As much as Liverpool fans would be more than delighted to have him back asap,he must play the remaining game!
If Egypt had won today,would you have wanted him to go back to Liverpool?

Tonight's game will be won purely on tactics and commitment!
The super eagles must play to their strengths and I just hope we have a plan B just Incase!
This will be the finals before the finals!
Whoever wins may likely defeat Senegal in the finals!

femi4:
Wrong tactics from hossam hassan

Salah...lets go back to liverpool. Leave 3rd place for team b

As club captain it will be disrespectful to leave the team behind when they have one game left to play no matter how insignificant!

Chai another missed opportunity from Salah to lift the AFCON!
He may just go down in history as one of the greatest players in Egypt who did not lift the AFCON!
Unfortunately he didn't do enough to salvage his team or even show they were good enough for the finals!

This is not governance; it’s neglect. The President was seen abroad yet again for another summit while remaining absent from his own country when he is needed the most. Earlier this year, he even sent an AI-generated image to the nation instead of addressing his people face-to-face.

This one enter well😭🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

One would have expected the presidency to criticize the state governor for doing such but there is silence everywhere including the apc propaganda camp because they are all on the same party!
More like see no evil,say no evil!
If this was done by another governor from another party,we won't hear the last of it!

soojar:
Let me come down to your level. you are no more weeping because the students were 'abandoned' your weeping is now offer to return home being made or not?
1. As I don't have the date and time the offer was made to the students maybe before the protest, do you have the date and time the offer was made after the protest or you just assumed the FG was doing damage control just because that is what fits your narrative?
2. If you don't have the date but agreed that offer has been made to them (at least you claimed it was made after the protest) Have they now accepted offer. (Because I would think if someone is suffering somewhere and he's offered a lifeline he would jump at it).


Now about covering your shame. There is no shame in weeping about your misfortune, but weeping because you want to be seen in the bandwagon of 'all actions of the government is bad', to me that is a waste of tears.

Unfortunately for you I never claimed to be intelligent. You are the one rather trying so hard to show your Condescending nature albeit to the wrong person. You don't need to be intelligent to make sense and it's latter you just need here

Guy let's save ourselves from this endless and fruitless back and forth by going through the initial bone of contention of this argument!

Firstly,you said that in your 'understanding' that the students in Morocco rejected or refused the request by the FG through the minister of education to return back to Nigeria!
I was quoted to have requested for evidence to buttress your assertions!
You provided a link and an attachment that contradicted your points!
The screenshots and link with personal research proved the students at no point rejected any proposal from the minister of education!
At that point,your further arguments was null and void!
You only had two options: provide further proof to validate your points or accept you were wrong!
Unfortunately,you chose the most ridiculous option of arguing blindly and prevaricating!
This is not about intelligence this is about accepting correction!
The screenshots below show our initial argument....

This is what happens when you push people to the wall!
Pandemonium is inevitable!

Hmmm

Every country possess counterfeiters!
The difference is that advanced countries have strong institutions where their proactive agencies curb and reduce any trace of piracy by creating platforms to report any incidence while apprehending and prosecuting the perpetrators to serve as a detterent to others!
Lastly,in other to protect their property or product from counterfeits,every company should have a way of verifying the authenticity of the products while designating certain distributors that sell genuine products!
This will reduce the influx of counterfeits!

soojar:
From your mumble jumble can you show me where they your students accepted the offer and they were not sorted out. At least you have made effort to see that offers were made to them to come back since the programe will not be renewed.

You can clearly see from what you pasted there (that's if you read it anyway) the same thing I've been pushing in your face that the programe has been discontinued, Yes or No? The FG has offered to bring those remaining back, Yes or No, The FG said they will still take care of the remaining people in the program if they choose to stay but no priority now (they were sorted out till 2024) only 2025 have not been paid Yes or No?

Hey don't prevaricate or run away from your point!😂
I never said anything about the students accepting the offer but you boldly defended the FG by claiming they offered the students the option of returning back to Nigeria but according to you,the students REJECTED THE OFFER!
Secondly,the offer came after the FG through the minister of education was exposed by the VDM video meaning their actions were only reactionary with the intention to save face and cover their shame like you have been performing all through this back and forth.

So I don't know what exactly you are trying to claim. Drowning man holding unto straws is what I'm seeing here.

If you have been a beneficiary of Scholarship before or you remotely know anyone even in the place you people call saner climes, you will know that there can be delays for whatever reasons in fulfilling the obligations. If you can't endure it or pay from your own pocket until the fund comes then leave the school and go back home. Not to now even talk of when the FG specifically told you they can't continue we can fix you up if you are ready to come back home or you can wait there while we sort your money out. Is the English that difficult to understand!

We learn every day

Even a drowning man who doesn't even know he is drowning is far worse and that typifies your very state!
Next time when you get caught in your lies or lack of foresight,accept that you erred and keep quiet!
It will make you far more intelligent than what you are currently exhibiting!
Your last statement is not only laughable but a contradiction!

soojar:
You that knows what transpired can you provide the evidence of what transpired? I just told you I don't know. Now bring your evidence of what transpired you started doing copy and paste google search for me. I thought you would produce a document you signed with the students since you are the one financing the scholarship. I never knew you will still come back to the same statement of FG that you accused of doing damage control.

Next time before you start weeping for whatever you are weeping for, be sure to either be the one in charge or you have evidence or reasons why you are weeping.

😂😂😂
But I have actually provided evidence with links to trash your baseless opinions but it's quite obvious that you either cannot comprehend or even read but keep typing epistles to defend or cover your shame😂
Let's even go back to your timeline of inconsistent opinions..
You claimed FG provided an option for the students to return back to Nigeria but according to you the students from Morocco REFUSED or rejected or did not accept their proposal.
I did the search that you failed to do by finding out that there was no report to show that the students rejected the offer!
Just end this circle of self mockery and accept you err in providing an evidence that contradicted your assertions!

The attached screenshots should remind you of where it all started so that you don't go off tangent or keep prevaricating next time😭😂😂😂

yarimo:
Faction of labour party declares the failed governor of abia state as failed leader

The authentic LP has spoken!
The Abure led gang of thieves tenure have expired!
You and your data boys go cry tire!😭😭😂😂

soojar:
I forgot to address your obsession with the word refuse. If that word is what is giving you problem then I humbly withdraw it. I rephrase:: "The FG has discontinued the programe and given the students the option to return back home to study in Nigerian university of their choice but those your students DID NOT COMPLY" or "DID NOT ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL". Will you be okay with that?

We learn every day

Just to further make a mockery of your watery argument,read below....

soojar:
I forgot to address your obsession with the word refuse. If that word is what is giving you problem then I humbly withdraw it. I rephrase:: "The FG has discontinued the programe and given the students the option to return back home to study in Nigerian university of their choice but those your students DID NOT COMPLY" or "DID NOT ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL". Will you be okay with that?


We learn every day

Now let me provide you with the screenshot in text format

“Consequently, only scholarships that are fully funded by foreign governments are now being supported,
with all financial obligations borne entirely by the host countries,” he said.

**Support for existing students continues**

Despite the policy shift, the minister said the federal government would continue to support students already
enrolled under previous arrangements until the completion of their programmes.

He added that students who may prefer to discontinue their studies abroad may formally write to the
Department of Scholarship Awards.

Such students, he said, are being offered the option of returning to Nigeria, where they will be seamlessly
reintegrated into appropriate tertiary institutions of their choice.

“The federal government will also cover their return travel costs to ensure a smooth and orderly transition,”
he added.

Now can you show me on this text format where the students DID NOT COMPLY" or "DID NOT ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL?

Don't we have agencies of government that can fish out these rogues?
LG should also device a means whereby every product that is sold anywhere in Nigeria comes with a verification code that can be authenticated through an SMS like some pharmaceutical drugs!

soojar:
Good that we are on the same page about learning and not to win argument or throw subtle shade that you know better. What you quoted there is simple English. You can see the words "to my understanding" and "I believe" telling you that I am neither the minister of education nor the president who must have signed the memo on the discontinuation of the program, I can only rely on what they say. Same way I would expect someone like you who did not initiate the program, paid their school fees so far, in fact doesn't even know which flight they took to morocco to not be assertive that FG is doing damage control because your source of information too is just what you are hearing (except maybe you are the minster that took them there).

Guy you are not making any sense with this latest coverup!
You claimed the students refused to return as reasons why they are still at Morocco which is totally different from the attachment you presented as proof to buttress your point!
As much as we are here to learn,it's important to take corrections when you err in your initial assertions!

The question you are asking me. The person in charge has answered it so how else or what evidence do you want me to give you. I should bring the call log of the minister to the students, a mail sent to them from the ministry or what information exactly.

If you don't know or are not aware or do not have access to what transpired,then don't get involved or make opinions that are false!
If the minister claims he hasn't abandoned anyone and is fulfilling their obligation,the evidence is clearly shown by VDM's video as proof that these set of students at Morocco have obviously been abandoned!
If the FG was running low on resources to sponsor their scholarship at Morocco,the commonsensical thing to do was to take them back to Nigeria instead of leaving them to suffer in a foreign country!
Do you know a student has even died of TB!
We don't need rebuttals but actions!
Simple!

You are actually funny putting the word refused in bold. Is it difficult to just read the write up? and are you expecting to see the word refused there? really? The ministry said they have provided pathway for you to come back and finish your education in the university of your choice and all arrangement for your flight and movement will be taken care of, just write us and indicate your interest. You didn't do that but went on the street of Morocco to meet VDM, if that is not refusal what is it? acceptance?

Guy you talk too much with little or no points made!
Was your proof in form of your attachment in tandem with your now false assertions that the students REFUSED to return?
Yes or no?
How can you bring a proof that clearly doesn't agree with your made up opinions?

Guy just rest. I'm making a point and not argument but if you are in the mood for argument lets have your points, I'm available.
We learn every day

Unfortunately,your points are not good enough and your arguments are baseless!
And no....from your writeups,it's obvious you have learnt nothing!

Which of the national anthem are you talking about?
The real national anthem or the one bulaba forced on us?

soojar:
What information do you have about me calling out NFF that you are trying to form "sabi"
That the FG is always bailing the corrupt NFF out doesn't make it normal. I ask which of the European countries that FIFA is giving billions of Naira to like our own NFF is being financed fully by their governments. If it is about defending FG as you said, there is no administration that has surpassed the present one in terms of motivating the people in sports most especially the NFF that I have issues with. Past pledges NOT made by the present government have been fulfilled. The bonuses for the present tournament has been signed out as far back as november (according to reports, delays are as a result of players preferring foreign currency). Now, that is me defending this government!

This is not about oversabi like you clearly wanted to say!
It's about doing things the right way and on time!
Get the context and stop prevaricating!
If the FG was supposed to pay match bonuses to the players through the NFF,the least they could done was to send it on time esp before the tornament instead of waiting for the players to down tools before trying to intervene last minute which could have been costly!
Lastly,if you want things to be done like Europe,then the FG must put the right personnel in the sports ministry who can do a better job instead of using such important position to repay loyalists or apc vuvuzela sycophants who know little or nothing about sports let alone the skills in heading an administration!


For the Morocco students, I thought you know everything as you keep writing "stay away from what you don't know" or you just learnt that phrase? well, you can read this- premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/848195-nigerian-government-denies-abandoning-students-on-morocco-scholarship.
I attached a screenshot of a portion of the write up for you in case you want to "stay away from what you know"

This was your earlier assertions that the students refused to go back....
Pay attention to your own highlighted!

Get your facts right before being sad on behalf of anybody. To my understanding, those "students" refused to come back home. I believe that programe was cancelled in 2024 for new people, the old ones there were sorted out up till 2024 and arrangement was made for them to be back in Nigeria to continue their school.
They abandoned themselves there nobody did. Despite their not wanting to come back home, the FG still promised to sort them out (just that they are not priorities).

Now go back to the attachment you provided and tell me where the students refused to return according to you!

Secondly,this information from the FG through the minister of education was damage control after seeing the video of VDM with stranded students in Morocco!
Now my questions....have they at any point provided an exit for these stranded students in Morocco before now?
If they have can you provide such information?
Next time you bring an information ensure you read it yourself to understand before trying to make an argument of it!
We are here to learn not to win an argument!

soojar:
Get your facts right before being sad on behalf of anybody. To my understanding, those "students" refused to come back home. I believe that programe was cancelled in 2024 for new people, the old ones there were sorted out up till 2024 and arrangement was made for them to be back in Nigeria to continue their school. They abandoned themselves there nobody did. Despite their not wanting to come back home, the FG still promised to sort them out (just that they are not priorities).

In all your effort to defend the incompetence of the minister of education and by extension the FG,you did not provide a single evidence to prove that these students refused to come back home!
Secondly,this is not the first time this is happening as I know a friend who was sent to another country to study on scholarship but could not come back due to no funds as the FG have abandoned them!
Until you have proof to counter that of VDM,stay away from what you don't know!

As for the AFCON, I don't know what business the government has in paying match bonus of the players that the NFF cannot do from all the money they are collecting from FIFA. If government want to audit their account or appoint chairman for them that is when they will cry to FIFA that government is interfering, that we should be banned. But to finance the team they will be asking the same government for money to meet their obligations. No be juju be that? How many top European countries are their governments paying players bonuses?

Like I always say,stay away from matters you have no information on!
The FG have always sent funds to super eagles when they play tournaments because of the opaqueness of NFF!
This has always been a norm!
However,whatever issues FG have with NFF,it should not in any way be a form of distraction for the players who have a serious game against Algeria and the least of their distraction should be match bonuses which was finally paid after they decided to stop training in protest!

Some robots who only get their copy and paste scraps from their beer parlour propaganda machine whatsapp group will claim Obi is the one at fault for bad mouthing nigeria

richmond500:
I did not support, I am saying this is a case of "pot calling kettle black"

Face the topic and stop your stale and endless prevarication!

TimeManager:
Life is not about who wins an argument but who is more knowledgeable. The issue is definitely not about lack of funds but foreign exchange bottlenecks which has since being resolved. You obviously read it in the report but as long as your mind is fixated, reasoning becomes shallow.
I can't help you if your understanding is limited. Good luck.

-Kiss my truth!lies

After trying so hard to defend your failed paymaster,you hilariously ended up making my point!
The fact remains that these players were owed match bonuses and Obi condemned such negligence which prompted the usually reactive administration to recently make funds available to them!
Next time try to take your silly advise before jumping into my mentions @TimeMismanager!

Guestmale:
Whenever he criticize government,you don't need to be looking under carpet to see it, it's always there every where and does it mean nairaland is a propaganda machine.

If nairaland is your access to information,then you are in a sorry state and no different from data boys from apc camp!
There is a reason why there is a google search app on your smart phone!

Alliswell248:
Hobi bitter speaks like an illiterate. Atiku and sowore are more knowledgeable than the agulu lamba third class finished man

Can you read through what you just said?
How can you follow and set a notification on a 'illi.te.rate' everyday just to read what he always says?
Doesnt that also make you a bigger and worse kind?
Obviously Atiku and Sowore are not popular hence its understandable to see them as inconsequential!
After trying to make sense of your post,i started laughing the moment you said he is a 'third class' graduate
A classic comment from an agbadorian robot!
Keep crying and stay pained!

Tareq1105:
The issue with Obi is that it's only negative news that excite him.

He would never comment about good news except bad news.

Even on the bad news, he doesn't have any better way to go about the solution but to condemn and be seeking public sympathy.

Is that opposition?

Someone who never sponsor any known Anambra state football team in 8 years.

With the highlighted, I don't even need to read any further to know you are a data boy from agbadorian camp!
Even a neutral individual that has been following Obi post on social media knows his posts and comments are about every kind of news no matter the outcome!
I wont be surprised if you only get your info from your whatsapp group!

Onunuga did not respond to Sowore and hardly responds to Atiku or other candidates but the moment Obi speaks or posts,just like apc data boys,he runs to swiftly respond as if he is a partakers of that 30k stipend😭😭🤣🤣🤣
Who is the prize once again?
Who is their nightmare?😎

Guestmale:
On this one Mr Obi was only playing his duty as opposition though he carried it overboard,I remember his supporters blasting PBAT for rewarding handsomely some of our successful athletes about a year,so why inconsistency.

Furthermore,I have not heard him praising our gallant army on their recent onslaughts on bandits and terrorists, everything should not be only criticism alone

https://phoenix-browser.com/DLaJ3Q3iwB3

https://phoenix-browser.com/HPnqqjUBsK5

https://phoenix-browser.com/G1vBJjQEMHe

https://phoenix-browser.com/JyX6UKFoCFD

How will you be able to know if he praised the army when you only get your news from propaganda machine Nations?
Can't you take a scroll to his post on X to check?