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the other trouble spots to watch out for are from the rear wheel drive components, and the multilink rear suspension.

flex discs will break easily if they are of inferior quality and the driver is rough on rough roads which are everywhere in Nigeria.

Centre casing rubber is also easily torn.

in the multilink suspension, the linkages/arms themselves may break off, the bushings will harden with time and cause the car to bounce at the rear.

rear shock absorbers are usually sturdy and rarely need replacement.

the engine uses a timing chain that rarely breaks so no need to bother about that

the engine may overheat occasionally, at which point you will have to check the cooling system, if the radiator and thermostat and fans are functioning to design. a gasket replacement may be required in extreme cases.

No 190 is exempt from these faults, once you are aware of them. it will be unable to spring any surprises on you.


some parts prices: these are estimates for foreign used good parts, OEM parts will be costlier.

complete engine: 90k

half engine(block and head); 50k

Gearbox, clutch disc, and plate: 15k

fuel injector: 10k

fuel pump: 5k

Radiator: 5k

flex disc: 3k

centre casing: 1.5k

hubs cost averagely 4k each.

shock absorbers cost averagely 2k each.

workmanship costs are higher for any Benz model compared to counterparts of the same age.

the 190 will not be fuel efficient if you drive with a heavy foot, and a tank below the 1/2 mark on the gauge.

so this is what i can remember for now,the 190 remains a great little sports sedan built at a time when Engineering was prioritized above all things at the Stuttgart company. In conclusion, Happy bidding

having mentioned the salient points above, i should sound a note of caution.

These are dated cars, and can be costly to maintain, so if you're looking for a cheap car with cheap maintenance, it's better going for an old japanese model that can be easily fixed by apprentice technicians. otherwise, you may have regrets.

things are bound to fail in a car over 20 years old, there's no formula to solve that other than having a little technical knowhow yourself, and having a ready, competent hand to handle the failures. so have a budget for parts, service charges, and time. it's an old car but i can assure you the prices of the spare parts are not as old as you think. i will list a few at the end.

most troublesome spot with the 190e is the fuel management system, particularly the injection system, many self proclaimed Benz technicians with several years experience in Nigeria cannot rectify the fuel injection problems. that is why if you look under the engine bay, many of these cars have been converted to rough running, thirsty, weak carburetor systems. the fuel pumps, fuel filters, injector nozzles, plugs have to be in excellent shape to get the best out of the car.

having mentioned the salient points above, i should sound a note of caution.

These are dated cars, and can be costly to maintain, so if you're looking for a cheap car with cheap maintenance, it's better going for an old japanese model that can be easily fixed by apprentice technicians. otherwise, you may have regrets.

things are bound to fail in a car over 20 years old, there's no formula to solve that other than having a little technical knowhow yourself, and having a ready, competent hand to handle the failures. so have a budget for parts, service charges, and time. it's an old car but i can assure you the prices of the spare parts are not as old as you think. i will list a few at the end.

most troublesome spot with the 190e is the fuel management system, particularly the injection system, many self proclaimed Benz technicians with several years experience in Nigeria cannot rectify the fuel injection problems. that is why if you look under the engine bay, many of these cars have been converted to rough running, thirsty, weak carburetor systems. the fuel pumps, fuel filters, injector nozzles, plugs have to be in excellent shape to get the best out of the car.

in a nutshell, that's about it about this car.

what you see is what you get, a reliable, rugged, German engineered rear wheel drive, tested and trusted. Guaranteed to give many more miles without the hassles of modern electronics or automatic transmissions. Yet not without the characteristic safety ethos traditionally associated with Mercedes Benz.


So if you're interested, make your offer, maybe we can come to a reasonable conclusion. Be bold and ignore the price tag I attached to the title, that is for a purpose.

the not so good about this car:


the m102 engine, though bulletproof is not original to the chassis. it is however in excellent condition, and you rarely need to add oil between services


the interior fitting is starting to become loose, and so there are rough edges here and there. for e.g the door cards are notorious for coming loose at the top. i will add pictures.


the open roof no longer works, and drips sometimes in heavy rain


the boot has to be locked manually, no longer works with the central locking


the paint and bodywork finish on the passengers side is flawed, and noticeable when observed closely


upright seat control on door no longer works, so driver's seat can only move back and forth until the switch is replaced

the not so good about this car:


the m102 engine, though bulletproof is not original to the chassis. it is however in excellent condition, and you rarely need to add oil between services

the engine vibrates noticeably on idle when the ac is on, probably due to the compressor being a manual type originally designed for th peugeot engine.


the interior fitting is starting to become loose, and so there are rough edges here and there. for e.g the door cards are notorious for coming loose at the top. i will add pictures.


the open roof no longer works, and drips sometimes in heavy rain


the boot has to be locked manually, no longer works with the central locking


the paint and bodywork finish on the passengers side is flawed, and noticeable when observed closely.

2 new tyres at the rear.

image drivers seat

instrument cluster:

cluster works fine. odometer, speedometer, analog clock, fuel gauge.

Engine,

m102, 2.0L.


front view.

This well maintained 190e will go to the highest bidder with proof of ability to care for it. i will list the good and not so good qualities. i will add updates with time.

Rare 16valve 190 body kit

Fresh oven bake to Giverny green

car looks very unique, the suspension is low set, and stance leans forward

Bucket seats front and rear, fabric

centre guages; oil temperature monitor and battery voltmeter, digital stopwatch in middle has run

factory ac with new sanden compressor, gas is very tight and will not leak

clear head lamps, and traffic indicator light

debadged: no mercedes sign on chasis


no overheating, no unnecessary heat in interior, heated seats socket disconnected, and heater pipes in vent diverted

troublefree 5 speed manual transmission

price: 450k final price.

be quick if you want to make an offer. i will be travelling soon.

whatsapp: 08038717534

Call: 08124845615


i will add updates later

car is in Ibadan presently.

olowoboi:
No need for senrenre introduction, We all know about the prestigious S class badge!
So call for negotiation

Price: call 08102405531

lol.
Superlative!

Excellent offering if it will suit your needs: I'll list the pros about this car quickly

NB: this is not a car to wow your friends or new date with. What it it is is a car with a history of attention to detail and excellent engineering without cost cutting.

1. The seats: These are original unblemished seats on a car at least 30 years old. this says a lot about the choice of materials used in making the even the seats of the car, as well as the care it has received from its owners. you would have expected at least some wear on the driver's seat, nothing!

2. the dash, again spotless. the controls are clean and simple, the overall aura is that of understated elegance.

3. very clean steering wheel, may not need a cover, but only to preserve it.

4. the panels on the chasis are clean and the paint job is fair particularly if you favour dark colours. chrome on chasis is not chipped.

5. tyres and alloy rims in good condition.

for this sort of interior and chasis, i'll place a bet on the engine being in superb condition.
finally i think this is the cleanest example of the w123 in the country, and if we had an equivalent of the Concurs here, it would be a clear winner. a vintage rear wheel driven engineering masterpiece! this car will be sold with reluctance and bought for love.

ps: if you have or see a cleaner w123, you can maybe post an image here for comparison.

happy sales mr cityhood. this your honda wants to die from cleanness.

lol, another one confesses about these v6 hondas we have been shouting out to. pls get this car in good condition, and test drive it to the limit on a good road before you make any judgement about it. these cars are a secret, being daily drivers. when you drive them, you get this feeling like they can't be improved; the torque, the power, the steering, the automatic gearshifts, the way the engine carries the weight of the car, the interior, the way the seats support you, the suspension, and it still looks like a regular sedan. well done honda, that was a hit no doubt!!!

benzmatic:
dell tablet to sell or swap.
whatsapp 08038717534, or call 08089263123
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dell tablet to sell or swap.
whatsapp 08038717534, or call 08089263123
see more here https://www.nairaland.com/2477001/dell-latitude-10-st2-business

want to sell or swap with a bb classic or passport. whatsapp 08038717534 or call 08089263123
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sa,
available for sale or swap, if u bring a good offer.

Denn:
Mercedes Benz 200; W123 Platform. 1977 model.

Classical.

whistles! just looking at this restoration again, Denn. Just epic. i know money died(or maybe lived) here, i won't even bother to ask what it cost, tint, tint permit, chrome finishing. it must be an experience every single time you get inside.

autofreak1:
Aint my fault @DGD1

Heard most of my parts are in Lagos already.
Picking them up tomorrow morning before Lagos shuts down due to Friday traffic.

lol i know all about that image. it does tell a lot. restorations can be mad expensive even more than buying cleaner cars, many times only love would keep u going. so she had better take else it goes to her main rival.

hi Auhanson, been looking for you everywhere. Pls can I get your contact details. I need to ask you a question. I'm on whatsapp 08038717534. Thanks.

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pls add my no to the mb whatsapp grp. 08038717534 thanks. Or refer me to the person moderating.

lukaino:
Please, i recently bought a w124 230e aka vboot saloon car whose engine was changed to a tokunbo one shortly before i bought it.
I now intend to carry out my first service on this car, what engine oil specification would you advise i use?

lol, these engines are bullet proof and will run on almost any blend of oil. the choosy engines are the newer engines and they specify mobil one in the manuals and engine bay even. you can ask the service station what they recommend for your particular model i.e w124 with i guess over 100 000km. i use the same engine, and i use the regular 10w-40 from mobil or forte oil. good luck.

pls I need a NEW ac compressor for the m102 mb engine(v boot/190). I am on my 3rd used compressor within a year. They work first, then they start leaking after about 2 months, the present one requires gasing every month. So I figured I should get a new one. If anyone has one for sale contact me on 08038717534 whatsapp only. Thanks.

cne010:
This looks like Oando in Idi Ape

yep, they do it for 1500 bucks, I found another place at mokola where they offer the same service for 500naira; means they have seen me for the last time.

loved w201 getting computerized alignment in Ibadan.

Infomizer:
This oyibo man drove his for 82 years! Unbelievable ba? I thought so too..

na crazeman be dat. crazeman!
now seriously, i would love to drive that car, knowing the amount of love that has gone into it.

meanwhile, somewhere across the sea, a benz 190e lists for 205,000 dollars.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-Evolution-2-146-Black-Series-AMG-/221853236556?forcerrptr=true&hash=item33a77bbd4c&item=221853236556

CoolKizzy:
Name: Rough Boy.
Destiny: .
Take to high car robbery rate locations. .
Carry load and other crazy stuffs. .
Crazy street drives. .
Loan to friends when they are in town and needed a ride.. .
Take to night outings. .

Oga denn, I see you sir.

i must say, this is the cleanest w123 i've seen yet. hope the inside is neat too. thumbs up!!!