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hardasan:

Genesis ch 28 vs 20 - 22

And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,

21 So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the Lord be my God:

22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.

Here Jacob vowed to pay tithe of all God will bless him with if God gives him peace.

Then in the instance of Abraham :
Genesis 14 vs 16 - 18

14 And when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his trained servants, born in his own house, three hundred and eighteen, and pursued them unto Dan.

15 And he divided himself against them, he and his servants, by night, and smote them, and pursued them unto Hobah, which is on the left hand of Damascus.

16 And he brought back all the goods, and also brought again his brother Lot, and his goods, and the women also, and the people.


Genesis 14 vs 20
20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand.
And he gave him tithes of all.

Abraham paid tithes of what he brought back. Simple.

can you be honest for once? what Abraham 'gave a tenth' was it his own possesion?affirmatively NO! now,can you tithe whats not your possesion pls answer that

Deut. 14:22 Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.

petra1:
Anything and everything was given and could be given as offering or tithes including money . Except of course what God specifically would not accept such as unclean animals . And for such the traders of such give money value .People do sell and give from the income or money value of their sale .

Luke 18:12 (AMPC)
12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I gain.

Luke 18:12 (NLT)
12 I fast twice a week, and I give you a tenth of my income.’

Luke 18:12 (TLB)
12 I go without food twice a week, and I give to God a tenth of everything I earn.'

you are hard pressed seaching everywhere for evidence 'where currency or money was used to pay tithe but Nowhere. Now you switch to using a fictitious parable made up by jesus and you ended up being a loser because the man that said ''i tithe all that i gain''(luke 18:12) was actually condemned by jesus, moreover the story was not a true life story,

Definition of parable

specifically :a usually short fictitious(Fictitious means made up, or imaginaryhttps://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/fictitious) story that illustrates a moral attitude or a religious principle
[size=6pt] 9 Also He spoke this parable[/b] to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one [b]a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.’ 13 And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other



can you see that all your evidencies to support tithe cannot be sustained because i with expose them [/quote]

[quote author=FreshGreen post=62233736]TITHE, IS IT NECESSARY UNDER GRACE?

I'm not going to give my own answer here, but we must get the answer from the Bible, let's see what Jesus Christ said in Matthew 23:23

"“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone."

From this Bible verse, you, by yourself and for yourself here can see three things:

1, To Jesus Christ,paying tithe has weight before God, even in the New Testament, but justice and mercy and faith are weightier, right? So when something has weight before Jesus, that means it's still applicable for believers today. What it means is that, paying tithe is important but living a life to please God is more important. So if you ignore a weighty matter before God, you are weightless.

Jesus did not neccesarily tell pharisees in Mathew 23 23 to discontinue but rather he knew that his death AUTHOMATCALLY ends tithing.

Israel as a nation, quite obviously, did not have the blood of Jesus Christ! We as Christians know that jesus sacrificial death is our sin offering

Have you ever wondered why it was mainly animals and produce that was reportedly used for tithe and let say few tithe are redemed? it was NEVER TO AMASS WEALTH But partly for the daily sacrifices of burnt animals for sin offering.
Malachi 3:10
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, ''meat in my house''
Christ went to the cross and made the final, "better" sin offering.

Heb 10:18
Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
Hebrews 7:27
''who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did ONCE for all when He offered up Himself''.

finally it was after jesus death that Tithing relevance ceased because tithing mainly of foods and animals for sin offering was done once for us by christ when he offer himself uf as our sacrifice on a turture stake. You must be giving something to the church regularly but never a fixed percentages fixed by the church but out of freewill. Any pastor that preaches tithing and receiving it are thieves and they should stop stealing those monies.

Tithe is not a means of getting automatic blessings of God upon your business or life as prosperity preachers over-emphasized, there are many unbelievers who don't pay tithes and God bless their businesses and they even live long

, I agree with you on this

hardasan:
Then the bible talks about tithe, it mentioned tithes. When the bible talks about offering, it mentioned it.
I can remember peace offerings, and burnt offerings being used severally. The Jews offer burnt offerings randomly for eg when they want to ask for something, thank God or for their sins but they still pay their tithes.

The law has been changed or amended by Jesus and his disciples, anything else that they didn't condemn is lawful and biblical.

Again why God demands Animals and produce for Tithe.
The reason animals and grain were brought into the temple, were as an offering for sin.
Israel as a nation, quite obviously, did not have the blood of Jesus Christ! We as Christians know that jesus sacrificial death is our sin offering. Yet, most Christians are told to make "offerings" to their church.

What we seem oblivious to is that the purpose of tithe was that it was a sin offering, in the time before Christ went to the cross and made the final, "better" sin offering.

Heb 10:18
Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
Hebrews 7:27
''who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did ONCE for all when He offered up Himself''.

finally it was after jesus death that Tithing relevance ceased because tithing mainly of foods and animals for sin offering was done once for us by christ when he offer himself uf as our sacrifice on a turture stake jesus did not neccesarily tell pharisees in Mathew 23 23 to discontinue but rather he knew that his death AUTHOMATCALLY ends tithing.

hardasan:
Food and grains wasn't the only tithe paid ;
Here is proof :

Gen ch 14 verse 18-20

Ces la même chose mon chéri monsieur
Tithe is the tenth part of your increase which is also profit. It can be currency or corn and wine.

bolded above ''currency'' you fail to support why no currency was mention there yet you ''forcefully added currency''

Tithes paid to the priests weren't only for their upkeep. See the following verses:
Gen 14 vs 18 -20

18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.

19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:

20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.


Here, Abraham was returning from the slaughter of Kings and he met the priest and paid tithes of all he got from the "kings" he defeated

You seem not to understand this passage, let me help you;
(W) Fought (X) and (X) was defeated, (Y) too were Captured Alongside (X) with Thier possesions by (W). (Z) Heard of the incidence and rescued (X) and (Y) together From (W) with their possesions. (Z) Now gave 1/10TH of X and Y's possesion to Z1.

Apply the variables Above to Genesis 14 and get the detailed gist. lets go;

Genesis 14:8-12 The kings of Sodom and Gomorrah (Plus their allies)**(W).... fought a battle against king Chedorlaomer king of Elam (plus his allies)*(X). Chedorlaomer king of Elam and his allies **(X) won the battle and took all the food supply and other goods (spoils)from Sodom. plus Abram's nephew (Lot), and his possessions **(Y) and departed, for lot **(Y) was living in Sodom.

Genesis 14:9-17 The incident was reported to Abram **(Z) and he took 318 of his trained servants and defeated Chedorlaomer king of Elam **(X). Then Abram**(Z) recovered back all the goods, and also brought back his relative Lot **(Y) with his possessions, and also the women, and the people.



Genesis 14:18-20 After his return from the defeat of Chedorlaomer, Abram was met by Melchizedek king of Salem**(Z1) and a Canaanite priest of God Most High, refreshing them with bread and wine and he blessed Abram **(Z). The blessing was given to Abram**(Z),

A very important fact to remember. In response, Abram gave ONE-TENTH (10%) of all the goods of Sodom that were stolen by Chedorlaomer to Melchizedek. Abram did NOT tithe from his own possessions, YOU ADMITTED THAT TITHE IS FROM INCREASE

Ces la même chose mon chéri monsieur
Tithe is the tenth part of your increase which is also profit.

Now are you justifying Christians paying 10% of goods and money they do not own?
Even worse, paying tithes this way means they have to find someone who has been robbed and recover the stolen goods. For example, if bag filled with money was stolen, the tithing Christian must first return the stolen goods to the rightful owner, who must not be a Christian, (in keeping true to the symbolism of Abram and Melchizedek) and then use 10% of the recovered goods as a tithe to the church.
This is ridiculous absurd example and it ought to be ample proof for rejecting this false doctrine of church tithing.

Genesis 14:21-24 The king of Sodom who was rescued with his possesion by Abram offered to give Abram all the goods of Sodom that were recovered, but Abram refused, taking not one single item, to give honor to God, lest people say this pagan king of Sodom made him rich

Bible expressly said that he gave the tithes of all

OF ALL WHAT? 1/10 of Lot’s POSSESION THAT WAS recovered (NOT INCREASE)and 1/10 of king of Sodom POSSESION THAT WAS recovered, After giving back possesions to 'the captured Lot and King of Sodom He did not even take anything for Himself!

Now do you know that Melchizedek wasn't a levite ? Cus Levi was a descendant of Abraham yet Abraham gave him his tithe

Abraham did NOT[b] give his [/b]Tithe!, But rather Abraham 'gave a tenth' On behalf of his RESCUED nephew ''Lot'' and ''king of sodom''[/b] to the priest AND king Melchizedek.

So likewise, Pastors represent Priests and should receive the tithes whether they are Levites or not

This is the most ribcracking comment borne-out of curiosity to justify stealing by pastors(i cant help but laughing hard) anyway if pastors represent priest melchizedeck, then they should only be limited to the payment of stolen monies recovered! only if (melchizedeck abraham situation is to be followed as precedence) so how do you see that? paying 10% of goods and money they do not own! Christian must first return the stolen goods to the rightful owner or the Authority and it will be very wrong to tithe from stolen goods! That is what Abraham did, and return possesions to the owners after he'd gave 1/10th to the Authority the king Melchizedech

Are we clear Now that Abraham DID not tithe his possesion as you claim?
The problem we have in this country is the laziness to read and confirm things we believe, but rather people swallow pastors heresies wholesale and they will choose to be adamant with it.

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datproject:
There are certainly things OP can not understand about the member because you look at it from canal perspective. If you ask the member the meaning of what she did, she might tell you plainly she is not worshipping the chair, but the God that anointed the man that used to seat on the chair. Her motive to God is what matters, and not the manner at which you painted the picture from canal angle.

what is the effort of the GO to stop the madness like john did to an angel who insist on worshipping John, STOP IT JOHN YELLED WHILE ADEBOYE ENJOYED IT

hardasan:
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No wahala, bring your tithes

you ran away from your thread and still got bashed here, pay tithe bring tithe ....greedy man pls go and work and stop soliciting for free money.

petra1:
Money was giving for offerings and tithe in the Bible . It's optional . You could give in cash and kind. For example God didn't accept unclean animals as offering and tithe . Such as Dog, horse ,Carmel ,pigs etc , anyone who sells such usually give money . It was called redemption . You can redeem it with cash means giving money value as offering and tithes . It's called redemption

Leviticus 27:31
31 And if a man wants to redeem any of his tithe, he shall add a fifth to it.

Leviticus 27:27
And if it be of an unclean beast, then he shall redeem it according to thine estimation, and shall add a fifth part of it thereto: or if it be not redeemed, then it shall be sold according to thy estimation.

Obviously leviticus 27:31 you quoted did not mention money! Malachi 3:10 did NOT MENTION MONEY too! pls read;
Bring you all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in my house


Money was NEVER GIVEN as a tithe, no one gave money as a tithe in the OT can you mention anyone or any instance that money was used for tithe in the OT? PLS ANSWER THAT

My next comment is to explain why God demands Animals and produce for Tithe
The reason animals and grain were brought into the temple, were as an offering for sin.
Israel as a nation, quite obviously, did not have the blood of Jesus Christ! We as Christians know that jesus sacrificial death is our sin offering. Yet, most Christians are told to make "offerings" to their church.

What we seem oblivious to is that the purpose of tithe was that it was a sin offering, in the time before Christ went to the cross and made the final, "better" sin offering.

We seem oblivious to the fact that the new covenant clearly tells us not to make sin offerings...

Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

and that the priesthood is changed....

Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

hardasan:
You were once a christian. I'm not here to argue Jesus. Neither will I reply your mentions anymore.
Kind regards.

like Adeboye you finally crawled into your mysterious Shell having met Superior argument, I will always be a Christian thanks

hardasan:
1peter 2vs 9
But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Every one of us in the Christiandom are priests

can you see your mis-interpretation? lets see a parallel bible verse that says the same thing to the nation of isrealite yet 'not all are priest'

Exodus 19:6
and you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.' These are the words that you shall speak to the sons of Israel."
hebrew 7
13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood

can you first reverse your erroneous assertion that 'every christians are priest?

pastors receive tithes because they represent the lévites

of Judaism

so if pastors represent levites priest and their chief priest is (jesus) is represents tribe of judah a tribe from which no man has officiated at the altar and not a priesthood tribe is that not confusing?

hardasan:
God commanded tithing and offerings. If you want to pay yours when you get to heaven, that's your business, but don't go about stumbling people Christ died for cus it will be better for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for you.

Cc: lalasticlala Seun

God commanded Tithe for sons of jacob(isreal) and not you....you need to establish how you are connected with the isrealites.no pastor or G.O Today has the legitimate right to receive tithe unto the lord
Levites are sons of jacob

Malachi 3:6
“For I am the Lord, I do not change;
Therefore you are not consumed, [b]O sons of Jacob.
Yet from the days of your fathers
You have gone away from My ordinances
And have not kept them.

levites sons of jacob have 'a commandment a written order' to legitimately receive tithe. pls read the same verse of the hebrew you quoted;

Hebrews 7
5 And indeed those who are of the sons of Levi, who receive the priesthood, have a commandment to receive tithes from the people according to the law, that is, from their brethren, though they have come from the loins of Abraham
Now i have faced a redeem church resident pastor with this he said that 'pastors today are representing the tribe of Levites' then i show him this verse below and ask a qustion, pls read before i ask;

14[i] For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood [/i]
the question is ''if God wants to validate tithe arrangement and todays pastors are representing 'levites' WHY IS THE CHIEF PRIEST 'JESUS OUR LORD AROSE 'NOT FROM TRIBE OF LEVI' BUT FROM JUDAH....tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood? remember that Aron the chief priest is a levite (go and read about bible priesthood arrangement)

But before you answer me let me point this out
Hebrew 7: 12
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. 13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.


so todays pastors have [b]no legitimate right to receive tithe unto the lord if they do it 'NA OVERSABI'

nautieonline:
I will like to ask you, in what order did Abraham and Moses come?

Yes we are descendants of Abraham, and so also is Israel.

Abraham was bounded by law to pay tithe but Israel was.

So the law "was valid" till grace crossed out the Law. but it does not mean that we can pay tithe. personally pay tithe because of the blessing attached to it rather than the curse.

www.nautieonline.com

Abraham was not bounded by any law, what he did was 'a one off offering' even the bible never say that abraham PAY tithe but rather gave a 'tenth parth' of war spoils. Tithe is strictly a 'tenth parth' of a farm produce or animal and not 'war spoils....the giving of a tenth part to a king or priest was also practiced by the pagans then. but when the law came Deuteronomy gave a breakdown of what actually constitutes Tithe to Gods people so Abraham was no bound by any law Abraham existed before law Abraham gave birth to Isreal yes His grandson jacob gave birth to 12 children which later became 12 tribes of isreal and among his son was 'Levi' a tribe that was to receive tithe legitimately according to law.

rabzy:
did paul beg politicians, did peter beg, did elijah and elijah beg the idolatrous kings of israel. The early christian church had more tribulations and adversity than now and their missionary work has been unparralled, did theu resort to these wanton greed for peoples wealth. Did they rely on defective teachings so as to expand their ministry and do outreach. They believed the whole body of christ followers are a royal priesthood and therefore no one was to live a kings life because he is a deacon or bishop, but there should be an equalizing and things shared equally amongst all when the need arises.

bolded, best comment on the topic, i salute i doff my hat!

i dont need pastor Adeboye to tell me

1, Deuteronomy that expanciates condition for tithe more than any other bible verse AGREES IT WITH JESUS PRINCIPLE OF SHARE THE RICH BELONGINGS AMONG POOR AND HAVE RICHES (SPIRITUAL RICHES NOT MONEY ) in heaven

2,That The apostles agreed with jesus principles of share church proceeds among the poor

3, That most pastors fight the bible now owing to the ignorance of the 'laziness to read''
with is the highest percentage of laziness and follow-follow like blind man from our christian brothers to read

lastly lets read this

1 john 3:17
17 If anyone with earthly possessions sees his brother in need, but withholds his compassion from him, how can the love of God abide in him?Luke 3:11
John replied, "Whoever has two tunics should share with him who has none, and whoever has food should do the same."
James 2:14, 15
14What good is it, my brothers, if someone claims to have faith, but has no deeds? Can such faith save him?
15Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. 16If one of you tells him, “Go in peace; stay warm and well fed,” but does not provide for his physical needs, what good is that?

GOD BLESS dADDY FREEZE FOR CHAMPIONING THIS COURSE ALTHOUGH WE STARTED IT 6 YRS AGO, BUT FOR aDEBOYE TO DODGE TTHE TOPIC AND ATTACK THE MESSENGER, CONFIRM DADDY FREEZE THE ARGUMENT WINNER

Penalty82:
So they should receive only offering for your lord?

let me school you since you cannot counter my points just the way Adeboye shy away from adressing the issue, lets see how offerings are used by the apostles and it agrees with what daddy freeze was saying, read pls

Acts 4:34
There were no needy ones among them, because those who owned lands or houses would sell their property, bring the proceeds from the sales,

Acts 4:35
and lay them at the apostles' feet for distribution to anyone as he had need.

i am sure that pastor adeboye will never ever read this to aanybody because of gree[b][/b]

Penalty82:
The Old Testament say we should pay tithe and the New Testament supported it by referring us to the tithe Ibrahim paid to Melchizedek.

Hebrews 7;
1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;
2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

pay tithe to who if i may ask? at least the levites have 'a commandment a written order' to legitimately receive tithe. pls read the same verse of the hebrew you quoted;

Hebrews 7
5 And indeed those who are of the sons of Levi, who receive the priesthood, have a commandment to receive tithes from the people according to the law, that is, from their brethren, though they have come from the loins of Abraham
Now i have faced a redeem church resident pastor with this he said that 'pastors today are representing the tribe of Levites' then i show him this verse below and ask a qustion, pls read before i ask;

14[i] For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood [/i]
the question is ''if God wants to validate tithe arrangement and todays pastors are representing 'levites' WHY IS THE CHIEF PRIEST 'JESUS OUR LORD AROSE 'NOT FROM TRIBE OF LEVI' BUT FROM JUDAH....tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood? remember that Aron the chief priest is a levite (go and read about bible priesthood arrangement)

But before you answer me let me point this out
Hebrew 7: 12
12 For the priesthood being changed, of necessity there is also a change of the law. 13 For He of whom these things are spoken belongs to another tribe, from which no man has officiated at the altar.


so todays pastors have no legitimate right to receive tithe unto the lord if they do it 'NA OVERSABI'

HARDDON:
Itz amazing those with ignorant stench that kisses the heavens go accusing others of same.

Get it, no matter how much you give to a poor man without improving his perception n mental gumption, he wud always live in penury.

Haven't you read where it is written? "... The blind receive their sight, lame walk....... "but" the poor had the gospel preached to them? Mat 11:5
Giving a poor man fish isnt caring about the poor. It is rather you maintaining a leech on him. If you really care about the poor, Teach him how to fish! That way, he wud be eternally freed n grateful. This is what true men of God do every meeting day. They feed the flock not just with heavenly manner but earthly abundance Christ death brought.
N don't be Myopic, he has paid the price so we can have wealth and abundance. We don't have to get crucified like him.


As for the rich guy??
because he made his wealth his god. Trusted in his riches .

let me kill your greedy post up there with this bible verses

Have you ever read this part of the bible and see how the Apostles practically encourages giving to the poor without following your heresy principle of tithing? you guys are exposed already pls read

Acts 4:34
There were no needy ones among them, because those who owned lands or houses would sell their property, bring the proceeds from the sales,

Acts 4:35
and lay them at the apostles' feet for distribution to anyone as he had need.

positivelord:
Its now so clear DADDY FREEZE have been right all this while....."use tithe to buy alcohol and drink in church" what kind of scam response is that ehhh... inukwa

everybody was disapointed at Adeboye who should have used bible verses to counter daddy freeze argument, daddy freeze was just proved right 200%

seunmsg:
Premiumtimes actually twisted Laolu Akande's press statement. He never said Osinbajo approved any procurement contract as wrongly reported by the media platform.

PREMIUMTIMES ABI, WHY DIDNT LAOLU AKANDE DENYING THIS VERBATIM UNTIL HIS OGA DID, STEALING MEAT FROM A COOKING POT IS VERY BAD'

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Vice President Yemi Osinbajo spokesperson, Laolu Akande has said that the Vice President approved two oil contracts worth N640 billion for the the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC).

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sleeping or refused to comment, cant you just ignore the frustrated man?

ihatesycophant:
Fayose just trying to buy sympathy from gullible people like him for the fear of what will befall him after immunity gone.
Buhari might have not done best in managing revealed corruption in his cabinet but he's been better than Jonathan that will come out publicly that people are disturbing his ministers and even advised them to go to court to seek injunction to prevent probe of their misdeed in the office. The case of Petroleum Minister $21B come to mind and the Aviation Minister $25M. Jonathan killed all intended probe against the two ministries but Buhari has found it worthy to suspend SGF and NIA. The National Assembly has also set in motion its committee to unravel the NNPC $25B contract scam. Until their report is out, we cannot say or know the truth yet but with all accusations and counter accusations we're reading on dailies the case is still very much dicey. I think it more of power tussle than service to the Nation. The only one I know he has not managed well, is that of Magu. Magu should have been relief of his post since the National Assembly has rejected him twice based on what they claimed it was before them as received from the same arm of government that the sender of the nominee represent. Setting a bad precedence of still retaining depict bad omen on our National engagements. To me, he should not be the only best head in the country. It has been the practice since the establishment of the organisation in 2003. Even the stubborn OBJ never relegate the powers of National Assembly on such matter.
Fayose should save himself of heartache and stop playing victim all the time.

what will befall Fayose? what befell fani Kayode? 67 days detention in kuje prison where he met Nnamdi kanu and emboldended him to cause the Tolotolo dance and killing of his Dog by soldiers hungry for Dog meat but fear camera capture of such urgly incident, just the way way you were told to ignore jonathan reducing fuel from 105 to 97 to 87 you guys told us that its because of election that jonathan reduces fuel price And even said through Tam West plainly without debunk that Buhari will make fuel N45 only to disgrace your stinking mouth with N145 per litre, the lesson here is that 'saying that someone is doing something for something not to happen is a coy to evade answers by APC frustrated goons, Oshokomole is a class on his own and cowards like you can better bury your face in shame o ma seo, that mn is your Deputy presidential candidate for PDP, he knows the Game wellahe will step down from [presidential candidate of PDP but he already wrote his name on stone

The Act states that the Minister of Petroleum must be the chairman of the NNPC board. Mr. Buhari is the substantive Minister of Petroleum. But he is allowed by the NNPC law to delegate powers, including chairmanship of the board.
However, the law also allows Mr. Buhari to act concurrently as the chairman of NNPC board even while the appointment of the person he delegated powers to is still valid.

[/quote]Quote that part here Section What? or Remain Another lie Muhhamed, you cant hide pls this is social media so we are waiting for you to quote where the constitution stipulates that ''a president who by a situation he cannot control deemed it fit to surrender his powers to a deputy to act IN FULL CAPACITY still turn around to Summersault in his own full delegation of powers to the Deputy by going through the back door to violate a power he constitutionally relinquish within a stipulated time OUT OF GREEDINESS SIGN A HUGE CONTRACT WHEN THE dEPUTY aCTING FULL CAPACITY PRESIDENT Osinbajo STILL IN full force , oya show us NOW

Buhari that cannot keep his own certificate, how can he be entrusted with someone else possession? thats insanity

BCISLTD:
I don't understand..what fair hearing again ..isn't that what they are in court to hear.....

No, fair hearing begins With EFCC'S Own Act and process;

''That EFCC jumped their own process(that demands that accused persons should be faced with their charges and should be given time to defend theirself) or to Approach her lawyers to defend herself first with the EFCC...... before going further to file a suit against her. 'its an important process that is very fatal to any EFCC cases, yet they deliberately jump it because they feel that the accused will quickly get prepared and block evidencies before they finally go to the court.

in case you dont Know:

The same also applies to CCB, Tinubu and Saraki cases were struck out because 'CCB failed to approach them first and face them with their allegations as demanded by the CCB' own act before filing charges. EFCC wrongly assume the role of CCB by filling charges at the CCT against Saraki, And during the Trial it proved fatal to the case when EFCC lawyer jacobs was disowned by the EFCC theirself in order to cover-up up thier wrong assumption of CCB'S role, Saraki's Lawyers mostly SANS just applied for a ''NO CASE'' submission

puhh! it was strucked out! so pls, leave-out Judges who are following due-process as demanded by the judiciary but blame incopetent EFCC.

MAGU is incopetent and politically motivated.

momonny:
http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-africa-40829688?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=59ba8128e4b07da2f2789a89%26%27Three%20people%20shot%27%20in%20tense%20south-east%20Nigeria%26&ns_fee=0#post_59ba8128e4b07da2f2789a89

wow

NgeneUkwenu:
This Is How Nnamdi Kanu Will Surely End.....


Straight to death they lead you.

Some mocking noise they make from the background.

As the hangman throws the rope around your neck.

"You can't tighten the rope more than that. You can't. I call your bluff." They continue the mockery.

"I bet you can't pull the rope. We shall revolt."

"Just pull one last time, and you shall know who owns this land."

You breathe your last. Tongue out, eyes popping.


"He was a great man. None like him."

They walk away looking to go recruit the next lamb

i cant believe that you were not banned using a monkey to describe a human beign with such veracity of hate speech! Seun seun seun. where art thou? what happened to this rule 2. Don't abuse, bully, deliberately insult/provoke, fight, or wish harm ..................

NgeneUkwenu:
This Is How Nnamdi Kanu Will Surely End.....
You breathe your last. Tongue out, eyes popping.

post saved for future reverence of double standard in applying rules by Nairaland,if action refused to be taking.

wristbangle:
When you ask some people facing turbulent period in their marriage today if they fail to do their homework when dating their life partner, the answer would be, Yes I did ... I never knew sh/he was pretending.

Some ladies can be slay queen or minaj type but due to societal pressure in order to get her choice of man, she would pretend even to the extent of becoming Mary magdalene hence attract her dream husband who is God fearing/rich/handsome/tall as they would even end up becoming a huge liability to him. Same goes to promiscuous, drunk and ill mannered guys who camouflage to become angel Michael to marry a pretty virgin lady.

This is exactly what is invoke in the society and I would agree with the part where the OP mentioned that we all want "the perfect picture" of our life partner which is where the problem starts.

Dating period is no child's play but unfortunately many people put the cart before the horse and neglect the danger signs of their gf/bf thinking they would manage it.

I am not married and I may not be in that position to advise married couples but for the singles, we need to set our priority right in order to avoid a regrettable marriage in the future.

Answer to yhe bolded above

see perfect answer that will expose ''pretence''

TINALETC3:
If u really wnt 2 d attitude of ur partner, 4get abt d way he or she treats u in particular, focus on hw he or she relates wt her family , frnds and neighbors, mind u, she has bin wt dose pple even b4 she met u so, Wateva attitude she dishes out 2 dem is d "real her", no pretence.
2.once in awhile, pay her family home a visit and wen u do, secretly focus on d mother, watch how she treats her husband, ladies most times, treats dia hubby exactly d same way dia mom treated dia dad. Al D same, u cn neva no her 100% bt jst try

TINALETC3:
If u really wnt 2 d attitude of ur partner, 4get abt d way he or she treats u in particular, focus on hw he or she relates wt her family , frnds and neighbors, mind u, she has bin wt dose pple even b4 she met u so, Wateva attitude she dishes out 2 dem is d "real her", no pretence.
2.once in awhile, pay her family home a visit and wen u do, secretly focus on d mother, watch how she treats her husband, ladies most times, treats dia hubby exactly d same way dia mom treated dia dad. Al D same, u cn neva no her 100% bt jst try

you just speak my mind, and answer someone too

iambube:
U didnt answer any of my questions. Let me answer some of urs. Fayemi owed 2 months and GEJ released funds for it to be paid, Fayose didnt pay then, PMB also released funds during the 1st bail out and fayose still didnt pay. If u know who works for ekiti state u can confirm what am telling u. Fayose at a time was owing 9 months which grew from 2 months of fayemi's spill over. Do u know ekiti recieves allocation every month and budget support too. So are u saying Fayose didnt get an allocation and budget support this month and still hasnt paid for 6 weeks. Do the math

. you lie a lot, kindly substantiate your claim that fayose actually at a time was owing 9 months which grew from 2 months,it was fayemi that looted Ekiti dry http://ekitistate.gov.ng/2015/02/fayemi-govt-owed-workers-youth-corpers-others-n6-9bn/

Have u ever asked urself what caused the recession? It was due to the presidential election. Governors had to siphon their state to finance their political party. I dont know if u live,work in or if u are from ekiti, but i can assure u that the ekiti people are lamenting about fayose. Do u also know that there is a local government called GBONYIN that has not had power for 3 years since fayose became governor. All because they didnt vote for him. Please ask people in ekiti and they would confirm

so the APC FEDERAL GOVERNMENT cannot do their job, is it the job of the state governor to inform discos who to give light, you amaze me with your low iq

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Besides Fayose cant win a 3rd term and the only way PDP would win in ekiti is through election rigging and voter intimidation.

if sherrif had won PDP chairmanship i would have slightly obliged with you because of kashamu thread, but with Makarfi, even you yourself knew EKITI would be sweep over for PDP

Imagine investing 5billion naira meant for the bridge into agriculture. Do u know there are local/foreign investors in ekiti that have rice plantations in ekiti and palm oil plantations? Do u also know that lagos state has also invested in local rice in ekiti state? Ekiti has no agricultural project presently. A state with alot of bare land and farmers. What is d purpose of a bridge? To decongest traffic right? I drive to work everyday and i drive thru fajuyi park and i have never been in a traffic jam

No, fayose would have used the money to pay the gbese caused by fayemi by sacking council chairmen


http://punchng.com/supreme-court-orders-ekiti-pay-ex-council-chairmen-15-months-salaries/

The Supreme Court on Friday ordered the payment of N3.3bn to local government chairmen and councillors, who were relieved of their duties by former Governor Kayode Fayemi of Ekiti State.

The former governor, now the Minister of Solid Minerals, had in 2010 during his assumption into office as governor relieved the appellants of their duties 15 months into the end of their tenures.

Fayemi had appointed caretaker committee into his government to carry out most of the functions that the local government chairmen and councillors would have done.

. you cannot even appreciate a man begging council chairment to take 35 million to substantiate the gbese caused by fayemi

sharpwriter:
Hmmn....you win, No comment, but he is there for now, and he has his lovers. Ire o.

shut up, i say shut up, how did he win? because you neve did your homework on fayose the best Governor and only governor to ever in the history of Nigeria defeated 2 incubent Governors, just watch as i tackle the guy you cheaply conceaded to due to unavailability of facts to you

this man no go kill me with laugh