₦airaland Forum

rosita33:
Mr, I only ask you to tell us what your pastor or the pastor in your church has done for the poor and needy? if you can give me just one, I will be you are on the right track. JESUS feeds his sheep's not taking from them I am not the keeper of truth. the bibles says my people perish cos of lack of knowledge and this is one. quote me. I have been in Christendom and I know what am say. JESUS called peter tthrice and ask him to feed his sheep not take from them. the churches shares any food brought into the church among themselves, the neepapedy and widows equally. why is today church different? pastors only know of themselves and their families. Bleep the fake ones.

God bless you they can't answer your question

Jesusgirl92:
Are likes your problem?? Wait, have u asked nwamaikpe what he does with his plenty likes? Wetin d likes EPP am achieve?? Lost battle because of nairaland likes?? I'm weeping for you here.

it shows that the sheeple never endorse you in the first place but rather you are forcing yourself Without the sheeple's consent, o ma she ooo, ole barawo

Jesusgirl92:
lol... See thinking... So it has been about likes for u all along ?? Na wa o.

have you admitted that you are fighting a lost battle even on your thread as demonstrated? You cant answer that because you are not sincere

OkaiCorne:
Apostle Stephen still broke down the scriptures for the Ethiopian eunuch to understand. You can also do the same if the Spirit of God is leading you to.

This tithe matter is not rocket science jare... "no insults intended"

cheers

God bless you brother, just because of greed they assume a desperate approach to rescue the modern tithe fraud ;DD they ask 'na your money? and so on, is that not desperate intention to steal! A won olosa ole jatijati

I can understant your frustration that even on your own thread youare beaten black and blue you have 189likes compare to someone whom you may call anti-but with facts with 229 likes on your thread as at 10:29 pm, pls cover your face in shame for losing a batle in you own thread when no sheeple even appoint you but you are rather forcing yourself on the false sheeple https://www.nairaland.com/4246978/leave-us-sheeples-luts-campaign

Can you deny the fact that the monthly income tithe to churches across is emm NOSEDIVING whence you were employed to think that you can save the situation but no, the unscriptural tithe is going down to its feet till Its grounded

emusmithy:
You can't understand because it's too big for your mind.

who damage you like this

[quote author=emusmithy post=63580216][/quote]instead of quoting the scriptures you were reduced to quoting salad recipe

emusmithy:
Don't mind them. Enemies of the cross.
Like Saul of Tarsus, the gate of heaven is opened to them.

Thanks for defending the faith.

you are a swindler not ready to discuss the scripture to butreess your point

Proudly ole you are

emusmithy:
E dey pain you?

Should they share it with you?

e dey pain Jesus that you are ole

[quote author=Amanayebo post=63578698][/quote]wonderful write up indeed Pastor Chris oyakhilome is not managing his home yet hypocrit like you will lick his feet because he dey Chop tithe

Jesusgirl92:
#yawns#. Try another trick... Next please!!

next what, Jesus stopped greediness in his father's house where we belong, do you even know that pastors or GOs must not be greedy, receiving tithe first fruit and others are act of greediness oole

Jesusgirl92:
Then why u wan kon die for our matter na commissioner of happiness ??

ask Jesus why him wan die for people paying higher monies to purchase goods in the synagogue, na I'm money, or are the payers complaining? so why Jesus come dey flog them?

analize701:
You must think yourself someone spectacular to think you can make me do what you want.

Listen, i am a daughter of light, and you are of darkness, Light overshadows darkness, not the other way round. You don't tell me what to.do, i tell you wat to.do, you are beneath me. garrit?

you said you are obedient to a command to tithe now show the command or quote it here you ran away, can you see that your inner motive of greed is exposed, if not you can't prove the command you claim

Taduma1:
Am a proud sheeple, paying tithe is a sign of faith, Cause is a commandment proclaim before we generation came to an existence and if we follow diligently there are lots of blessings that follows it.

then know that just like circumcision tithing is obsolete and not a justification for Christ followers "love your neighbor JUST LIKE THE WAY YOU LOVE YOURSELF" do you practice that instead of futile tithing, do the right thing by loving your next neighbor just the same way you love yourself

analize701:
Lol, i wish i had time to read your vitriol, but sorry i didn't

If you are so pained that you and you G.O Freeze couldn't get us to abandon obidience and follow you, then do your worst.

where is the obedience ? Quote it here.

analize701:
You his disciple read it, that's all that matters.

Disciple? I am just amazed at the childish and the shamelessness you are displaying having lost scriptural battle on tithe you came up with LUTS that exist only in the fiction of your imagination when nobody even endorse you to represent them in the first place, again you could have told Jesus what is his business flogging those greedy businessmen in the synagogues say "na Jesus money, when the buyers no complain na" just imagine that and see the senselessness in building your idle defense of shame backing up pastors stealing monies in the name of Christ, chain iranu abashaaabashaa E pain Jesus now, abi eno pain am, but the buyers buying criminally expensive goods them are not complaining

Juliusdking:
Dose marketers will never use the money they make this season well because of the pain people are passing through. Na sickNess go finish dat money in Jesus name amen Dose marketers will never use the money they make this season well because of the pain people are passing through. Na sickNess go finish dat money in Jesus name amen

is the petroleum minister Buhari clueless or super clueless Tunde Bakares silence on these issue is not golden

analize701:
Weytin Concern Freeze tho?
Why him dey cry our cry? We don complain say we dey homeless when our pastors dey fly jet?

Abi na jealousy sey him be bastard half Arab wey dem born troway for Nigeria?

him sabi him papa so?
Make him carry this fight go meet him papa wey lazy like am. wen other people papa dey con others buy jet, wey him papa dey.

Nonsense


***Sheeple and Proud***

see painment freeze DON damage this guy anyway FYI freeze is too busy to read your Sober responses sorry kpelle

isaiahidah:
The only thing I don't get about him is his relentless push for cheap publicity with no true or quality argument that's brings out-of-the-box perspective.
On tithe. Daddy Freeze has completely failed to establish he is an authority in discussing such topic.
He is relying to much on public opinion instead of tackling the topic from the root cause like having analysis of tithes paid during the apostle's era and other great men of God outside Nigeria. You can't successfully argue a spiritual topic without going spiritual. He failed.

Daddy Freeze has completely failed to establish he is an authority in discussing such topic

what do you mean by 'an authourity'?

agarawu23 potst=63189250:
olodo rapata.

oju eja lo mooje

BUHARIISCURSED:
There is a difference between speaking in tongues and praying in tongues, when you speak in tongues you need and interpreter but when you pray in tongues you communicating with the Holy Spirit and so you need no interpreter

support your claim with a Bible quotation "that ever stated directly that you don't need an interpreter while praying, or else your statement is borne out of you been exposed and may soon be loosing massive customers under your bondage, oya quote direct Bible verse to support your claim,....waiting

petra1:
Thank you ORDER is priesthood

prove that 'order' is 'priesthood'

No where in the Bible was a mention of "priesthood of Melchizedek ever mentioned" but was rather forceful on the part of the desperate modern tithe advocates who also failed to show where Melchizedek received tithes outside war booty more than ones or Abraham gave a tenth part only on war booty more than once in a lifetime
No biblical evidence, so can anyone show us where priesthood of Melchizedek was ever mentioned in the Bible? Imposition of ideas will not count on this thread

sobastical:
Nothing can change the truth
Apostasy is all is see everywhere

I give tithe and get blessed at least
I use to say something and I will say it without no shame
and it is the day you start seeing man as receiver of your tithe and offering that's when you lose the blessings attached to it.

if you tithe and satisfied with it fine, but just like Timothy who insist on circumcision for himself as a mean s of receiving grace apostle Paul actually circumcise Timothy but tells him that it is not needed under Grace even for the gentiles, so if you tithe know that its just your own way of pleasing God but Not a standard no. Its personal

MuttleyLaff:
Freeze is not and has not said anything that hasnt for years been discussed here on the Religion forum
Posters over the years, have talked over thoroughly, this tithe topic,
All in order to reach all, so all reach a good decision and/or better understanding of giving,
of which views or arguments put forward concerning taxed, obligatory or imposition tithe no longer holds water

Offerings are OT old school things
and Jesus Christ has given the ultimate offering saving you from having to give any other
You actually give contribution(s) or donation(s) is what you correctly do
Of course freely giving works for anyone

infact i want to believe that these Tithe Advocate pastors read the battle for and against it on Nairaland where the battle against imposed tithe was won over and over in many threads. hence no pastor tried to cite a bible verse because he knows what await him that he will not be able to finish the documented responses that will follow it, so they chose the blackmail and emotion aspect that does not adress the issue in anywaywhatsoever

Mailthaddeus:
My brother, food stuffs won't sail church projects, the church engage is various projects that requires money. And u can't expect the church to remain archaic on operation. Years back people exchange donkey to ride, today they drive and fly. Years back people go to d synagogue to worship, today u can worship God in ur homes via satellite. And u can even read ur bible via tablets and phone. If u must quote the bible, do it well.

If the old testament says bring food, remember while Jesus was at the temple the widowed woman gave a coin( money). which d bible described as her everything. And it also sighted many other people bringing in huge amt of coins(money) from d many they have. My dear, Pay ur tithe and enjoy open heaven, or u keep it and struggle through life.

when 2 Or three are gathered am there, who is the church? Building or brethren? answer please

Desyner:
Buhari is a better choice. Gej didn't know how to controll 'spending' a bit.

shut up, olodo dindinrin, use figures to explain. Gej N77 per litre petrol, buhari FIRST DECEIVED NIGERIANS removingN5 first then having realised that the N5 deception hook he sent caught up with the gullible mumuism, buhari now slap us with N145 per litre, yet even though its unbearable some people still don't see buhari as a failure a won agbaaya

POST *A4(1)

hardasan:
Oga, interprète the highlighted part of the verse you quoted and stop shifting posts.
You never hala

POST *A4 on this link has taken care of that: https://www.nairaland.com/4160536/paying-tithe-biblical/7#62595974
but since you need to be schooled on this, i tagged this 'extension as POST *A4(1) for reference

back to your question

interprète the highlighted part of the verse you quoted

part highlighted reads;
these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

1,these ought ye to have done,.....sub ordinate clause that cannot stand alone 'but a function of the main clause
2, and not to leave the other undone...main clause relying heavily on the sub-ordinate clause

submission: mathew 23:23, jesus did not justify tithing, but 'if they must pay tithe, they must also keep the whole law
using the analogy here in the context of Mathew 23:23 to justfy that jesus approves tithing is not only fraudulent but also a deliberate twisting and 'misrepresentation of jesus analogy to suit 'a pre-conceive concept' that is borne out of greed, and also amount to standing logic on its head, now lets evaluate;

for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: t[i]hese ought ye to have done[/i], and not to leave the other undone.

here is a parallel bible verse
Galatians 5:3
Again I testify to every man who gets himself circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole Law.


its the same as ''ye ough to have circumcise'' withought ''neglecting the whole law''
G

alatians 5:4
…3Again I testify to every man who gets himself circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole Law. 4You who are trying to be justified by the Law have been severed from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

The same way if you still tithe you have fallen away from Grace

So tithing is now in the law

. So you dont know? okay
let me show you again
HEHREW 7:5 ...Tithe came with commandment to sons of isreal/jacob
5 And indeed those who are of the sons of Levi, who receive the priesthood, have a commandment to receive tithes from the people according to the law, that is, from their brethren, though they have come from the loins of Abraham;
Can you see your ignorance?

lastly, dont dodge these questions because you are scared to death attemting them, i dare you:

(a)Did Abraham receive Tithe'' more than once on biblical record? yes or no OR Show a bible verse proof or just be graciously be Mute!
(b) Are todays pastors following suite by following the Abraham ''one time tithe example'' only recorded? or they are doing outside Oversabi?
(c) The Word: ''priesthood of Melchizedeck, was ever a bibliical concept found in the Bible or '' Not found in the bible'

hardasan:
NO IT DOESN'T !!!
Please interprète: You should have practiced the latter without neglecting the former

Nope!!! "If you must practice tithing, do it along with whole part of the law without neglecting anyone.

hardasan:
He has started running helter-skelter.
Oga, show me where the bible condemned tithing.

LUKE 11:42
Woe to you Pharisees! You pay tithes of mint and rue and every herb, but you disregard justice and the love of God. You should have practiced the latter without neglecting the former.

THIS VERSE LUKE 11:42 alone condemns tithing