"The cure for evil is the unobstructed Light and Sound. Evil is but a shadow, a lesser light and sound. It is nothing but the darkness which can become light through love. No one can ever come to the Mahanta except through the way of love."

— The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad

"Every Soul is the spiritual spark of God invested in a physical body. The body does not have to die for Soul to reach the spiritual universe during the time that It resides upon earth. Man does not have to become anything other than what he is in order to have divine guidance, divine protection, divine wisdom, and divine understanding through the Living ECK Master. He must recognize only that God is and that he himself, as Soul, also is."

~The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad

"When the chela asks from whence do we come? Why do we live? Where shall we find peace, happiness, and rest in the end? What has command over my life to give me happiness or misery? Then the law of God states that “Soul has existence because God wills it.” Thus, God loves all life so dearly that It allows Soul to exist. If It did not love life, there would be no life-forms in this universe and all would be barren. Time, space, law, chance, matter, primitive energy, and intelligence are only the effects of God’s love for life, and only exist to serve Soul in Its journey to find liberation and freedom."

~The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad

mmsen:
There are children who were born as a result of rape. Is that "god's love" too?

Yes

Yes, there is reincarnation. A young lad once told his Mom that the rain waters from the heaven isn't God opening the 'floodgates' but due to evaporation and condensation from the earth surface. Someday, reincarnation will be widely accepted again.

jom28gy:
in the beliefs of eckankar, how can one realized his Good given destiny

By spiritually purifying oneself. And the best way of achieving this purity of mind is by constant practice of the Holy Name of God, HU. The HU app is available in play store for this reason. See HearHU.org for more information. Thank you jom28gy

The Amazing Name of God

triplechoice:


At the moment, the only God I am learning to trust is the one within

I don't think anyone has any knowledge about a Supreme God that controls its creation. We can only speculate but can never be certain about this

That's the right direction to go. I have learned that in this divine Journey a guide must be found.

Janosky:


Lols.... Laughter is the best medicine..

I understand but that is the very foundation of the Christian doctrine. It's worth respecting though spiritually incorrect.

Peacefullove:
I saw this comment from a Nairalander who advocates trinity.


" same principle applies to d trinity. In terms of authority God the Father is greater than the son and the son is greater than the Holy spirit "


To confirm the authenticity of this submission, Can someone clarify this as true or not , any reference from the Christian bible to back it ? three, How can The Son be greater if sin against the son can be forgiven but sin against holyspirit cannot be forgiven ?


#over to you

In the Christian theology, The Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are equal in divinity. The Son was 'begotten by the Father' not made nor created; while the Holy Spirit 'proceed' from the Father and the Son.

ECK means The Holy Spirit. it is one of the foremost names for the Spirit of Life.

"Every thought, word, or deed either purifies or pollutes the body. It sounds like a simple statement, but it’s a powerful one."

"He does this over and over again until one day he meets again with the Living ECK Master. This time he recognizes the Mahanta as the one he has been searching for all these many lives. It comes upon him like a burst of the sun from behind a cloud following a storm. Then he realizes what has happened to him and love for the Living ECK Master begins pouring out of him."

~The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad

The Mahanta, the Living ECK Master is the Living Word of God. All others are fake, period.

"Should physical death come before man finds liberation, he will go through a period in the Astral world. He may be as asleep, or he may be aware of what has gone on around himself. But then he is given rebirth again into the Physical
world, not remembering his sojourn on the Astral Plane, nor that he has lived past lives. He has not rested spiritually, and the Kal power takes him in hand again and leads him through the deep forests of worries and hardships of life."

~The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad

"The law which all seek to know is the great principle of life. Its simplicity is amazing for it is summed up in the statement: Soul exists because God loves It. In other words, all life exists because God so wills it. This is the very foundation of life, the whole of the philosophy of Eckankar. There is nothing more and nothing less. All life is built upon this basic principle of God. If Soul did not exist, there would be no life anywhere on earth or on any of the planets, nor on the various and many planes throughout the universe of God."

~ The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad

jom28gy:
as eckankar believed in irrevocable laws of the nature, which God made, do they also believed that God is a destiny changer, and can do anything? again those who died, where did they go?

Thank you jom28gy for dropping this question but I will just try to briefly answer it. The 'irrevocable' laws of nature are still governed by other higher laws of Life, yet man desires to control everything even without proper spiritual training and discipline. However, the ardent student of the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master ultimately learns to work in harmony with all of Life's forces including the laws of nature. His only concern is spiritual unfoldment and not in the manipulation of psychic forces. The Living ECK Master of the times is the supreme One mandated by God to change destinies.

The dead goes to the Court of Yama for Judgment after which they are reincarnated accordingly. Many persons living today have been there mostly during a near-death experience. At the point of death, an ECKist is typically escorted by his spiritual guide, the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master to his new abode. I hope you will find these insights helpful.

"Because what’s coming in is going to go back out there. And then it bounces like an echo; it comes back. It goes out there, and it comes back. And so it strengthens and eventually has a very strong influence on you. And this influence can be either beneficial or harmful. So the choice is yours."

triplechoice:


I do not think there is any God the has mandated anyone to be its representative. This is my position

Do you believe in God and his supremacy over his creation?

triplechoice:



The inner cosmology which is described in the above quote is something that is similar to what I have read elsewhere.

From what I have found out, there are hundreds if not thousands of groups claiming to have the authentic description of this inner region and also having a living master whose duty is to take souls at the point of death to its true home.

I think it is an impossible situation to have several individuals claiming to be the only true representative of God at the same time. That is assuming this God actually exist

How do we know who is telling the truth or how have you been able determine if the discription given and your master is the authentic one? [/b]This question I have asked you and still continue ask

If you reply with another quote from your religious text then [b]I will assume you do not have any evidence of your own, even if it is experience that you have had, to support what you believe in

There is no mystery about the "inner cosmology." The Spiritually Great were once in our position until they met the Living ECK Master of their time and submitted to his tutelage.
But the choice is always made freely without any form of compulsion. Until then, today's mysteries will remain mysteries tomorrow.
Lastly, the True Master has the special ability to act both as an Inner and Outer Guide for the Soul who is ready for Truth here and now and not after death. Only then will doubt become a thing of the past. I am talking about knowingness not merely belief. Soul exists because of Sugmad's love for It is all I can say now. My experiences are numerous but I won't share them here. My apology!

"These gods have invaded other religions, both East and West, creating the belief that each religion has the original truth it has been able to give out to its followers. These negative powers, however, are only servants to man, although millions worship them in spite of their subordinate position. They each perform a
certain function in carrying on the work of the world, in producing human bodies and in keeping these bodies going. They are only the agents of the Sugmad and not gods to be worshiped. They are almost menials in the grand spiritual hierarchy, but each has certain powers and prerogatives, and within his
own sphere he is all-powerful. Each must carry on according to the definite laws and rules which are laid down for his government. These are laws of nature; and the trinity—no matter in what religion it may be represented—as Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva, may be regarded as servants of the Kal Niranjan, the negative power.
Lower than these three, there is another current of power, or god, who is the working force helping to carry on the administration of the physical universe. His Hindu name is Ganesh, but other religions give him different names. He stands almost at the foot of the ladder of subordinates whose business is to serve mankind and help carry on the work of the world. Therefore, as it is seen, man worships the wrong gods; for all religions, whether or not they deny it, are pantheistic, which means many gods.
Metaphysics, occultism, orthodox religion, and witchcraft deal with the minor gods of the hierarchy. This also includes the elementals and angelic forces in the lower scales of the hierarchy, who dwell in the subtle regions close to the earth. These great hosts of beings are called devas, devtas, bhuts, prets, and by other names. They are beings somewhat above the ordinary man, and they help to serve man in many ways. They have great power and are quite willing to help those individuals who are in harmony with them.
Man is the in-between being, between the spiritual hierarchy and the lowest of the beings: the beasts of the fields, fowls of the air, creatures of the seas, the elements of the soil. But if he works in harmony with all of those powers above him, he will surely receive their help and will eventually rise to the position
where he will meet with the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master and then succeed in returning to the heavenly world, his true home."

--The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad

triplechoice:



You have not giving me the answer I wanted.. I want to know how you got to confirm sugmad as the name of God and what makes it special.

What you replied is obviously a quote from what seems your religious book. I have read it but it has not answered my question.

When I do, I will quote you, please

"But the Sugmad was not yet pleased with what It had created, so closing Its eyes It dreamed again. This time It formed the spiritual hierarchy of all the universes.
"The hierarchy began with the Sugmad, followed by the ECK, and the Mahanta. After this came the Living ECK Master, the Adepts of the Order of the Vairagi, the lords of each plane within the higher worlds, the guardians of the Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, and then the lower worlds were formed for those entities named the Atma, or Soul.
"Over these worlds, which are three in number, It placed the Kal Niranjan, lord of all the negative worlds. With this, It formed the Kal force, which originated and flows out of the Niranjan as its source. Subordinate to the ECK, the Kal, however, takes precedence over all life in the lower worlds. But it is still subject to the will of the Sugmad."

— The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad

triplechoice:


Please how did know that sugmad is the sacred name for God and its the source of all life?

SUGMAD is a very special name for God commonly used by the ancient Order of the Vairagi Adepts. The head of the Order is always the Living ECK Master of the times.

"When man comes into the state of Soul consciousness, he realizes that each plane of existence has its own laws and conditions, and that these cannot be overridden by any power, however great, except by the will of the Godman. Each plane exists because of the one above it, to the extent that the powers and mechanisms can be adjusted and directed to its own conditions. Only the living Godman has power to bend any circumstances, conditions, and laws of any of the planes within the universes of God. He seldom does this, nevertheless he has the authority, for he is the manifestation of the Lord Sugmad upon this plane and every plane within the worlds of worlds."
—The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad

delishpot:


If one doesn't know a duck, how does one tell the bird o e is looking at is a duck? I asked cos I wasn't sure and he left no sign that it was ECK.

Your Observation is well noted. However, my signature o...

"The aim and purpose of Eckankar has always been to take Soul by Its own path back to Its divine source."
—The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad

"In the beginning, the Sugmad rested quietly in Its abode in the Ocean of Love and Mercy. Outside Itself there were no other planes, universes, nor worlds. Not a Soul, being, nor creature existed. Only the Sugmad lay dreaming in Its eternal realm. And while It dreamed, there began the formation of the worlds inside Itself."
— The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad

SUGMAD. SOOG-mahd A sacred name for God. Sugmad is neither masculine nor feminine; It is the source of all life.

delishpot:
Is that Ekankar?

ECKANKAR is a compound word made up of ECK (Holy Spirit) and ANKAR (Way or Path). So literally it is the Path of the Holy Spirit. ECKANKAR is here to help all who are ready to go back home to God.

https://www.eckankar.org/whatis.html

"The universes of the Sugmad are complete with a hierarchy of highly evolved beings who govern all the worlds according to the laws of their own worlds, and in accord with the will of the Sugmad. The only difference between the spiritual hierarchy and the structure of the governments of the physical world is that the Sugmad is a monarch in Its government of the worlds. It rules singularly and by divine nature. There are no democratic principles found here, and we either live according to the Divine Laws or become rebels and resist. Then we suffer whatever results by dwelling in the world of matter and being a subject of the Kal Niranjan, king of the negative force."

— The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad

"The knowledge that the true, living Master gives is direct and immediate, coming from actual Soul experiences apart from the physical senses and human consciouness. His words are charged with the ECK Currents surging within him. They sink into the inner self of the listener, leaving little doubt about the existence of Soul experiences."
—The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad