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xterra2:
1. 2021 Supplementary Budget Details

Recall the FG is going to borrow Over N800Billion for 2021 supplementary budget which Security agencies would get ~N722Billion for capital expenditure.

Sha here are the best snippets

Army
Vehicle Requirement 48,670,100,000
Defence equipment N96 Billion

Navy
Arms and Ammo Requirement N36B
Purchase of equipment N34Billion and Medium term equipment N21B

Overall the Navy is going to spend N157Billion without mentioning any specific purchase (e.g ships)

Airforce

Additional aircraft N140Billion
Other equipment N84B

However, if we add these two items we get N224Billion, in US dollars using CBN exchange rate of 410 that is $546.3 Million. So that is some serious money. Excluding the Tucanos, i can't remember Airforce spending such amount at once.

Overall the airforce is spending N239Billion


2. Super Tucanos may be delivered tomorrow, in fact it would be according to the Americans . Around May 7th The Perm Sec Defence said below, and it is on its way so i think the Schedule they gave is on track.


"We paid $496millon to the American government and it is getting to three years now, the Super Tucanos are yet to arrive. Last week, we received an email that it will come by 21st of July" -

^^ So in the next 24 hours it should be in Nigeria
We can only hope the Chiefs would tackle some fundamental problems that has been recurrent in this war for years which the Super Tucano cannot solve.

Odunayaw:
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The Tucanos are coming to their owners

GabrielYulaw:
I better wade in here. Did we overpay for the Tucanos? Yes. Are they what's needed right now? No.

Better kits and equipment, plus improved troop welfare and masses of heavy weaponry would have been mote optimal. [/b]Buying 10 tanks from china today, 6 tanks from Ukraine tomorrow[b] and some MRAPS from Proforce next month simply doesn't cut it in my humble opinion.

Sincerely, Nigeria is a country that never lacks for money. What we do best is throwing money at problems hoping it will just go away. Deeper examination of what we are facing and possible solutions never seems to occur to us.

So, the latest estimate has it that over 350k people have been killed in this war so far and frankly the future does not inspire me with confidence. From Boko Haram we have gone to ISWAP and now Bandits and Fulani herdsmen are all over the place, killing without limits and having fun.

How many of you here can confidently travel from one state to the other without killing a ram and asking for the blessing of the almighty? This country is fvcked. If you can't see that then you have a massive problem.

Now, say you have a very deadly insurgency in your country and have $600 million to buy the kind of arms that will bring the war to a very speedy and satisfactory conclusion, what do you do with that kind of money?

I don't know about you, but there's simply no way in hell I'm gonna use that money to buy a dozen turboprops. I don't care if the planes in question came with a million free rounds of ammo, rockets and sensors. I don't care if Thanos himself put them together.

What you guys seem to be forgetting here is that the North and everywhere else seeing unrest and killings is a very large place. I seriously doubt that even a hundred Tucanos would be enough to provide adequate coverage, not forgetting that not all the planes bought will be airworthy at the same time.

If I had $600 million and was told to go and shop for war-ending weapons, I would take like $200 million, go to eastern Europe or Russia and buy or beg for around 500 old tanks, from T-62s up, plus IFVs. These can be speedily modernized and the tanks turned into heavy IFVs that no bandit or ISWAP can touch without using heavy anti tank missiles like the Kornet.

I still have $400 million, right? With $200 million I can buy hundreds of heavy artillery and long range MLRS from Russia, Turkey and China. Some of these MLRS will exceed 200km in range. The normal range of any arty on my shopping list should be at least 30km with standard ammo, and double that with RAP.

Then with the remainder of the funds I will buy as many MALE drones as I can. Mainly from China, but the reliability of their aircraft is doubtful.

So, what will I use all these I bought at mammy market to do? It's simple. The IFVs are there to ensure our troops are safer while moving around. The heavy artillery and rocket launchers are there to engage the enemy wherever they can be found, day or night. We don't need manned aircraft for that. What's needed is to establish bases mainly in the northeast and near our borders that are like 30-50km from each other, all equipped with heavy artillery and mutually supporting.

The drones I bought should be in the air 24/7 and concerns about their data transmission capacity can be remedied by buying satellite bandwidth or launching our own satellite. What this means is of course that with drones covering most bandit and ISWAP-heavy areas, there's no way they can pop up without being immediately targeted with arty or rocket fire, with eyes in the sky making sure the munitions raining down are going where they are supposed to. And all without any putting any troops in danger.

My apologies if the above sounds like daydreaming or science fiction, but it does appear feasible and something I would do if I was given $600 million to buy weapons that will change this war for the better. Not even twenty F-22 Raptors a can win this war for us, let alone a dozen Tucanos, unless these turboprops are carrying atomic weapons, as Joscofelix might say

RiceProducers:
My friend you must know that stand-off attack capability is the great advantage of Super Tucano. It irritates when people say the Super Tucanoes are slow and then wonder why it is doing well in COIN in the same breath.
Stand-Off is the answer.
[/b]The guided bombs will hit you from 3km away[b]
Decades after Liberia and Sierra Leone and many upgrades, Alpha jets are still diving low to deliver ordinance. Hopefully that is behind us

SamuelAnyawu:
Lol i swear. Tho Jet don show self

komekn:
Lets talk substantively that means where possible to reference our view, deductions and strategy.

You have been here long enough, you have knowledge, either by participation and or association, I am similar but European biased.Your expectations shaped by your engagements i want to believe at Nigerian military bases and with multiple discourse with NCO's and senior officers alike.

My experience has historical inheritance as well association participation albeit it is European biased but i did a lot of hanging out with USA combatants at a plethora of bases across Europe but mainly Germany and Europe. My expectations are shaped by that environment primarily nonetheless i have association with Nigerian senior officers as well some who trained in the UK.

Having this in mind, in detail how would you spend $600 million in whatever way you want to bring an end to this war , reduce our unacceptable casualties and if not totally annihilate Boko but give ourselves over riding advantage to end this war ASAP.

SamuelAnyawu:
Multiple rocket Launcher rolling. Make I wear Canvas

komekn:
It becomes relevant because after 5 years in the waiting we are finally going to get the first 3 or so A-29 Super Tucano AT LAST, if we believe the press they are FINALLY on the way.

And maybe we might just get the next 9 this decade hopefully.

Maybe bitter truth is very hard for you to swallow and you prefer sugar coated lies and disinformation, the choice is yours.

Toju200:
I dunno who abused you but I don't want to argue this again...
Change topic pls

komekn:
How many moons ago did I raise this issue, not with assumptive sentiment based preference but substantively. Using "Best value" and best use of resources for the greatest impact and efficacy .

I got dogs abuse and a barrage of vitriolic rhetoric sent my way, with you mostly on the side of negativity.

Nigeria is facing an existent crisis and somebody is spending $600 million to acquire A-29 Super Tucano and add ons, for an aircraft that has taken 5 years or thereabouts for the 2/3 few to arrive. That incomprehensibly SHOCKING.

I also talked about the possibility of them being susceptible to rudimentary AA Fire from the plethora of enemy technical on the ground. Do not forget this is an aircraft that is supposed to be for CAS - close Air Support. The noise from the Tucano makes its presence well know before it even arrives on the battle scene it is much slower than an Alpha jet , so how safe is it for pilots, time will tell.

The USAF and NATO do not use any of these turbo prop aircraft beyond the experimental, I wonder why

I over flogged the comparison of the Wing Loong 2 UAV's nonetheless Pakistan has just bought 48 estimated cost plus munitions and technology transfer $65 million.

If 48 Wing Loong 2 UAV's were deployed in the North of Nigeria it would literally change the entire course of this war and reduce our casualties tremendously and with ground support almost end Boko Haram.

SamuelAnyawu:
Yeaaa I know a lot here that served in 2015 and they are back here in 2020/21. Tho I feel it’s not cool tho

SamuelAnyawu:
Is it right for a Soldier to serve twice in the Northeast?

Redemption1:
NA is ofe,I can't advice anyone to join the army, the corruption there is too much, their welfare is rubbish

BlackBaron:
Crazy stuff. Those Tucanos are sorely needed now.

ugo4u:
Me I dey confused o, see like the Pilot hug COAS and CDS like say them be him mate. If you're knowledgeable on how the military hierarchy works you'll understand where I'm driving at, on a norms he can't even hold a squadron leader that way .
Is he related to any of them ni? or are they basking in the euphoria of the success of the mission

Roan77:
Calm down, I have none.
Correction taken.

Odunayaw:
Does this "great truth" in any way make you feel accomplished? Because I don't understand why you guys go to great lengths to prove our enemies are alive and kicking

Roan77:
Bro, we have single seater Alpha jets, and twin seater Alpha jets, so I guess he was on the single seater jet.

youghs:
It was a single pilot mission.

SamuelAnyawu:
Alpha is a twin seater jet?

NewDelhi:
Na the rank funny me pass. He obviously didn't check the rank before kidnapping the soldier. If I see this kind warrant officer for road I go stop him and question him