Segeggs: @op .


i think you people are persecuting frosbel due to spiritual blindless stopping you from seeing the truth, the type that made saul persecute the early christians thinking he was doing the right thing

Pastor Kun:
@Frosbel
Keep up the good work and may God continue to give you wisdom.

DrummaBoy: ^I second you Kun on that submission

Frosbel allows freedom of thoughts.

Amen.

Frosbel fanboys crying out loud.Your daddy in error is being persecuted.God will not cease to expose & frustrate all the shameless false christians & teachers on this forum.You bring reproach to the name of christ & populate hell with innocent souls by false teaching.God will answer you by Himself not just me.

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frosbel: ^^^^

Leave cults and follow JESUS.

No one should regard this double standard personality called Frosbel.His strategy is always to hide under the name of our Lord Jesus & call all churches cults including living churches.Yet himself will stylishly present unimaginable error teachings like hell does not exist,Jesus is not God & Such heretic teachings.He's a wolf in sheeps clothing & all must beware!!

idnoble135: i didnt mention the word unclad. How does you wearing ear rings, or other clothes take away your salvation? How does musical instruments do any wrong? Mr, i do know what i am saying.

Oga, I wasn't replying you in that post.I was replying the topic of this thread & in conjuction with other threads on this kumuyi matter.I quoted you when i replied your remark about Bakare.

idnoble135:
The pastor sef condemns just too much. I hope he knows he aint perfect. The funny thing is he never condemns the world but the church. I wonder if Jesus would condemn the church like this guy does.
On another note, i hope he aint trying to seek relevance through his criticisms.

True talk bros.That pastor reminds me of one Mr frosbel,the chief false teacher of this forum.He does nothing else than codemn churches including the true ones.You hardly ever see him condemn the world & the multitude of wickedness therein.He'll present different false interpretations of the scriptures and hold them as final.

I am of the old school old time xtianity too & proud of it.I've visited Deeper life & can testify that there is nothing they do that is based on any traditions of men as people keep ranting falsely on this forum.They have full scriptural basis & backing for their teachings on moderation in dressing & everything else & they always choose the extra mile of deep consecration to godliness that people abhor these days.It is true that people have diverse meaning & interpretations for different scriptures these last days.So If you or your church interpretation potrays that you can go nude on the street or wear arrays that cost multibillions, good for you till christ returns & tells who is right.In the mean time let all the meaningless criticisms against deeper life cease.If you hate their standards then go to another place.You don't expect all the churches to be the same & allow all looseness that go with modern civilization.God's standards remains the same no matter the level of civilization.

hisblud:

who pays the piper, dictates the tune... so the possibility of hidding such a a small organism to maintain the evolution hypothesis might be great...

Smart reply.So on point.

frosbel:

The Holy Spirit is the authority on God's word, not Charles G Finney or John Wesley.

If the Berean Christians challenged Paul's teachings and if Paul admonished us to test all things, I am sure we are to rely on GOD and not MEN.

Yes Charles Finney & John Wesley didn't have the holy spirit.You are the only one that has it & will ever have it.You see I know your strategies but I must tell clearly that YOU FROSBEL HAS BEEN EXPOSED!! BUSTED!!

frosbel: ^^


Deception will not be deception if people like you were not deceived.

Your target is not people like me.You decieve the unstable & undiscerning with your errors.They are your targets.Much like the drummer folks drumming for you now.I know your next strategy is to drag me to arguements which won't work for I may not reply you beyond this except I decide otherwise.LK.11:53,54

frosbel:

Though I respect John Wesley etc, you seem to place more emphasis on MEN than the word of GOD.

Just my small observation.

I base all my emphasis on the word of God but since you have have chosen to totally mutilate,corrupt & twist the word of God to your fancy,I chose to use these men that are authorities in the word & stood on nothing else than the incorruptible word to expose your error.

OLAADEGBU:

Do you mean the Bible according to frosbel?



The majority on NL don't necessarily believe in God, you for instance don't believe in the triune God.



The Jesus you believe in is another Christ. You don't believe that he is the second Person in the Godhead.



You should be saying: Oh me!

So on point Ola.We need to expose this personality.He is doing more harm than we can imagine.I seriously fear for so many misguided souls he has derailed on this forum.He posts so frequently,responds to every thread with his falshood timely.It appears he's unemployed & has lots of time but his greatest weapon is that he operates subtly by giving friendly & innocent looking responses backed by twisted scripture & the name of the Lord Jesus.So its easy to believe him if one can't discern.Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field...Gen.3:1

frosbel: The Bible not MEN.

The Minority not the Majority.

Jesus not Tradition.


Amen.

Are the men in my post not following the bible & Christ Jesus.Or are you alluding that you are the only one that ever read the bible or believed in Christ.Face it; in 100 lifetimes you may never know Christ or the bible as much as those men knew but here you are all over this forum spewing all manner falsehood that opposes most of what the bible represents & which many of these men of high level christian integrity & standards taughty & upheld as they were taught of Christ.

Is frosbel the final authority in christianity? Is he the only one that reads and comprehends the bible morethan all? Does it not occur to you that mr frosbel opposes what thousands of reputable people of God from the time of the apostles till now believed,preached,or even died for. To mention but a few such men like Charles finney,John wesley,John Knox,David Brainerd,Jonathan Edwards,Hudson Taylor, John'praying' Hyde,Smith wigglesworth,John Lake,Charles price,F.F Bosworth and a thousand others.Men that lived far more holy lives than frosbel or any of us can easily muster today,men that shook kingdoms,won millions of souls to christ,caused nationwide spiritual awakenings of prayer and righteousness,healed millions of incurable sick people,fasted & prayed far more,suffered far more for christ than many today can bear,some saw the Lord Jesus & holy angels face to face several times in their lifetime,some even sealed their faith with their blood in matyrdom.
Most of these men preached and upheld most of what Mr frosbel calls heresy today.At least all of them fully upheld the hell & eternal torment doctrine as the apostles of christ did but of which mr frosbel twists the scriptures regarding this matter to his fancy just because he belongs to the brand of christians that cannot bear to see a loving father rewarding sin & willful disobedience. I ask again Is frosbel the final authority?

Lets look at some of these evidences:-
1.Deliverances:Many victims of evil spirit possession or oppression have undergone deliverance sessions with very wierd displays that prove the prescence of spirit personalities.Some esterwhile shy gentle females speak eloquently with male voices,Some cry out with multiple voices or animal voices they can't muster ordinarily,some display violent animal personalities,some levitate.
2.Spiritual Hearing:Many satanic agents like witchdoctors,occultists etc clearly hear from spirits & as well christians many times hear God speak audibly to them telling them secrets or giving them instructions that are found to precisely conform without coincedence.
3.Miracles:This is the most numerous & most common evidence of the spriritual since creation till now & almost everybody have witnessed a supernatural solution to what physical methods can or cannot handle.Miracles of healing from curable or incurable sicknesses,death averted,miraculous provision, etc.
4.Revelations:Countless people have got revelations.How do we know the revelations people recieved in the bible days weren't just made up?We know because we recieve revelations today that bring accurate results.
5. Human Experiences:There are many individuals since creation began till now that have had first hand experience of the spiritual.Countless people most of which are still alive now who testified that they've been to heaven & hell with details that can't be denied & others that have been agents of satan with sticking details that graphically fit into what the scripture & present occurances on earth represent.
6. Prophesy:There are countless prophesies since time began that came fully accomplished as declared whether by satanic prophets or holy prophets.
7. Dreams:Millions of people have had dreams & insructions in dreams that came physically accomplished in precise accuracy.
8. Ritual & blood sacrifices:Many people have openly confessed to ritual / blood sacrifices they undertook in the past that brought them mysterious wealth exactly as the sacrifices prescribed.
9. Angels & demons:Many have seen angels & demons physically or spiritually.
10.Rain Makers:The existence of individuals that can magically manipulate rain to fall or cease is no longer new to us in this part of the world.So much so that construction coys & individuals are said to hire them to stop rain while consructing roads or during important occassions during rainy seasons.
11. Native witchdoctors(babalawos)Several people have used the services of witchdoctors and can readily attest that they are strong & common evidences that the spiritual exists.Infact it is nearly impossible to be in politics in this country without having a strong 'power' backup.
12.Occultic secret societies:Another common evidence of the spiritul where members who are normally among the highly placed in seats of political power in this country acquire spiritual powers.
These are a few evidences of the existence of the spiritual I can call to mind now.If anybody has more,he should add & all as many that have winessed any of the above evidences should testify.

Lets look at some of these evidences:-
1.Deliverances:Many victims of evil spirit possession or oppression have undergone deliverance sessions with very wierd displays that prove the prescence of spirit personalities.Some esterwhile shy gentle females speak eloquently with male voices,Some cry out with multiple voices or animal voices they can't muster ordinarily,some display violent animal personalities,some levitate.
2.Spiritual Hearing:Many satanic agents like witchdoctors,occultists etc clearly hear from spirits & as well christians many times hear God speak audibly to them telling them secrets or giving them instructions that are found to precisely conform without coincedence.
3.Miracles:This is the most numerous & most common evidence of the spriritual since creation till now & almost everybody have witnessed a supernatural solution to what physical methods can or cannot handle.Miracles of healing from curable or incurable sicknesses,death averted,miraculous provision, etc.
4.Revelations:Countless people have got revelations.How do we know the revelations people recieved in the bible days weren't just made up?We know because we recieve revelations today that bring accurate results.
5. Human Experiences:There are many individuals since creation began till now that have had first hand experience of the spiritual.Countless people most of which are still alive now who testified that they've been to heaven & hell with details that can't be denied & others that have been agents of satan with sticking details that graphically fit into what the scripture & present occurances on earth represent.
6. Prophesy:There are countless prophesies since time began that came fully accomplished as declared whether by satanic prophets or holy prophets.
7. Dreams:Millions of people have had dreams & insructions in dreams that came physically accomplished in precise accuracy.
8. Ritual & blood sacrifices:Many people have openly confessed to ritual / blood sacrifices they undertook in the past that brought them mysterious wealth exactly as the sacrifices prescribed.
9. Angels & demons:Many have seen angels & demons physically or spiritually.
10.Rain Makers:The existence of individuals that can magically manipulate rain to fall or cease is no longer new to us in this part of the world.So much so that construction coys & individuals are said to hire them to stop rain while consructing roads or during important occassions during rainy seasons.
11. Native witchdoctors(babalawos)Several people have used the services of witchdoctors and can readily attest that they are strong & common evidences that the spiritual exists.Infact it is nearly impossible to be in politics in this country without having a strong 'power' backup.
12.Occultic secret societies:Another common evidence of the spiritul where members who are normally among the highly placed in seats of political power in this country acquire spiritual powers.
These are a few evidences of the existence of the spiritual I can call to mind now.If anybody has more,he should add & all as many that have winessed any of the above evidences should testify.Atheists will want all of us to throw away these startling glaring evidences we or our relatives or people we know that are yet alive have experienced first hand & stupidly believe they never occured & that the spiritual,God/spirits don't exist.Who is fooling who.

NoProphecy:
Do you believe in Thor? Zeus? Damballah? Hamuman? Azzaca? Ra? Jupiter? Adad? Rundas? Dizang? Obatala? If not, you are like a chicken that cut its head off and made mash potatoes out of its own brain. Millions of people believed in these Gods, and you have the gall to say that YOU know that they were wrong? That the story that happened to be popular where YOU grew up at the time that YOU grew up is somehow more significant than theirs? You are no better than an atheist! You reject 9,999 gods while they reject 10,000. You think you are better? That is like a dog that makes gorilla cookies then dances with shellfish - on the Equinox!!!!

I hate to respond when folks deliberately refuse reality but I hope to give only one response to the above spewed filth & may not speak further.You God haters simply pretend not to know the answers at times but I will indulge you for now lest you be wise in your own conceit.Of course christians believe most of those names mentioned above exist.The difference is that in christianity they are known as demons & prayerfully treated as such.Other religions may also treat christianity the same way but different religions hold one thing in common :- they believe in the the spiritual,in the afterlife,in God/gods based on glaring evidences of millions of spiritual activities made even physically apparent which atheism simply wilfully chooses to ignore which forms the topic of this thread.We are not looking at what different religions believe in this topic rather we are looking at millions of strong evidences that show that the spiritual exist which atheism willfully deny.Of course different religions may interprete these evidences in different ways e.g by attributing some occurances to some gods or devils but the point remains that they see that a relevant spiritual activity has taken place in each case but atheists don't.Atheists simply choose to throw away millions albeit billions of overwhelming evidences.

Your academic intelligence is extremenly beneficial to christianity unlike those that'll have their own waste away in godlessness.Kudos!

Gal.6:7 Be not decieved,God is not mocked,for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap.

Man cannot decieve God & the devil.If God knows you are willfully bent on wallowing in sin despite persistent warnings with last minute repentance escape plan he will make that plan impossible.Same with the devil.Tell me how a man who fully yields himself to willful sins & is now possessed by demons of those iniquities can repent at last minute.Its impossible because the demons are now in full control of his mind unconscious to him.

Have you not heard the addage that "those that plan to repent by 11pm die by 10:30".

Questions like this become a simple measure to determine the level of depature from true christianity by so many so called christians & churches.The Holy Spirit warned in several scriptures that in the last days.......

banjicom: what is this one saying!!!!
on a sunday morning !!!!

in fact for posting this kind of trash u are the devil sent to nairaland 2 deceive mankind.

Bros, you haven't even seen a thing.It seems you are new to nairaland & never heard unimaginable erronous & demonized twisting of the scriptures to decieve & destroy the unstable.I have learnt that if you dwell years on nairaland religion section & yet survive the magnitude of errors & blasphemies peddled on here,then you are a true soldier & can hardly be decieved till christ comes.

striktlymi:

Hmmm...was my post really in support of gays? I thought I only portrayed gays as humans who have rights too, just like everyone else.

If we can't respect the rights of people irrespective of their beliefs, unbeliefs, refusal to believe or their s*xual orientation etc then we haven't begun to practice Christianity.

Christianity of my own bible respects rights of fellow humans that are not sinful but politely condemn the ones thay are sinful.

striktlymi:
The argument above does not follow because all the items you listed have to do with someone infringing on the rights of another...

Infringe or not is not the only factor that makes homosexuality wrong.Yet it infringes because (1)the culprits also go about trying to lure non-gays to the act with many falling into it after persistent disturbances & come out later to regret and become suicidal & seeking medical,psychological & spiritual help.(2) it disturbs the large society with an evil habit that is alien & if an evil habit is made to look good it will grow till it infects the entire people.This happened in sodom.So it doesn't only infringe on individuals but on the society & be it by force or not its still infringement.

striktlymi:
A ra.pist forcibly have s*x with someone of same s*x or the opposite s*x...there is no mutual consent...same can be argued for inc*st and beastiality.

Same cannot be argued for lncest and bestiality because a man can easily have full consent from his female blood relatives especially if he's wealthy,a pet dog will give full consent to its owner.

striktlymi:
The difference for beastiality would be that the individual does this to a 'lower animal'....I need not tell you that a serial killer also infringes on the rights of others...

If serial killer takes a job to kill people that want to die because they are suicidal will society say he's right because he got their consent first? Those that sell suicide pills on the internet to suicide prone people are doing right then.You see how flawed your arguement is?

striktlymi:
Being gay implies consensual sex between adults...no one is forcing another to have s*x...no one's rights are infringed.

I have treated this.

striktlymi:
I might not like the act but it does not mean that those who practice it need to have their rights deprived.



This is incorrect as I have demonstrated above...



I agree that anyone who is into homosexuality or supports the act is in grave error.



The above is very incorrect and at best impractical...laws that infringe on the rights of people are vehemently fought against.

I have proved that at least lncest & bestiality & some forms of killing (e.g by suicide drugs)can have full consent.

striktlymi:
Child abuse is an act that infringes on the rights of the child

Very easy to get full conent from a child so the culprits can ask for their rights too.

striktlymi:
...how can one law support children's rights and another go against it?

I hate arguements and may not go beyond this but I simply mean to say your arguements are flawed to me ooo! even though I'm sure I cannot convince you as is usual on this forum but let God be the judge.

striktlymi:

Lol!!!

If I discover that at any time that my dog starts to demonstrate some homosexual traits, the first thing I will do is laugh very hard...then I will excuse the dog for his behaviour cause he acts basically on instincts and I really cannot hold him responsible for whatever he does based on instincts...

Let me ask you this: where do you think homosexuals will go? Heaven or Hell?

Are you a christian indeed if u can ever ask this sort of question? Where do you think serial killers will go?Remember they derive pleasure too from what they are doing just as the gays do.

striktlymi: Hey Okpa,

Quite an interesting post but...



Can you please remind me again why the world was destroyed at the time of Noah?



Are you sure that some of the "lower animals" you mentioned above have never demonstrated some homosexual tendencies?



Nah men! Even without homosexuality the world as we know it will definitely come to an end one day...



Hmmmm...Yes, it is quite sad when the church fails in its duty as the 'light of the world'...



I believe firmly that homosexuality is sinful but I do not agree with any law that discriminates against homosexuals...they should be free to choose the kind of s*xual orientation they want for themselves though I say this with some caveat...



Hmmm...

If homosexuals want protection from the law, then they should have it because of the threat they face but I do not agree with any law compelling public servants to wed homosexuals...if they want to be wedded then let them get their very own to do the honours.

Sir your arguement in favour of Ga'ys is terribly flawed & unacceptable.If those that have pleasure in ga'y relationships must be allowed freedom,then those that have pleasure in ra'pe and child sex'ual abuse,bestiality,lncest,serial killing must be accorded full freedom too.The same tendencies that gave rise to ga'y activities,also gave rise to the other ones mentioned.So America & the west and all that directly or indirectly support them are in great error.And believe me it won't be too long from now that those given to bestiality,lncest & child sex abuse seeing the victory of the ga'ys will begin to clamour for their own rights.It will only take a president & few legislators that have sympathy for them or are morally bankrupt to sign their activities into law.Don't ever think this can't happen cos it will & very fast.Could you have ever imagined 10years ago the possibility of according respect & recognition to gays?

bizmahn:

Bro there are demons & agents posting on this forum.You see a username but you never know who really is behind.The tussle on this religion section is a spiritual tussle.It is a war with satan himself & his agents using internet media to dispel unimaginable error & blasphemy against God to lead souls astray.If you don't addict yourself to prayer you can hardly continue posting here.They will distract you with so many things.I've been held off from replying to counter several corruptions & errors on here by many distracting activities too.But once I find little time I reply negative posts.If all as many that know the truth can post any little minute they find time it will go a along way to frustrate error peddlers but what you see today is that many have stopped or have moved to other sections while the perpertrators of error have field day & drag quite a lot of unguided souls with them.

FROSBEL IS THE CHEIF ERROR PEDDLER.-Edited

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Pygru: [size=30pt]Ladies and Gentlemen, I need your prayers.
Please read my story oo.

I left Nairaland to pursue other interests(academic) and was absent for a short period.
However something clicked some months or so ago , and I started posting more frequently again on this site.
Suddenly, I cannot stop Even my friends say things like 'Pygru is on nairaland again'

Honestly, the moment I see a response or comment from Frosbel, that I do not agree with, a rush of adrenalin flows through me and suddenly the urge to reply immediately almost sends me berserk , my mind is on getting home fast to quickly respond , only then does my blood pressure go down slightly.
I don tired ooo

Abi na person handiwork [/size]

Bro there are demons & agents posting on this forum.You see a username but you never know who really is behind.The tussle on this religion section is a spiritual tussle.It is a war with satan himself & his agents using internet media to dispel unimaginable error & blasphemy against God to lead souls astray.If you don't addict yourself to prayer you can hardly continue posting here.They will distract you with so many things.I've been held off from replying to counter several corruptions & errors on here by many distracting activities too.But once I find little time I reply negative posts.If all as many that know the truth can post any little minute they find time it will go a along way to frustrate error peddlers but what you see today is that many have stopped or have moved to other sections while the perpertrators of error have field day & drag quite a lot of unguided souls with them.

Occultic books has far destroyed the substance of many.Thick blindness & darkness that can be felt beclouding spiritual minds of the deluded because they desire it so.

I warned you folks this fellow can run this thread to 100 pages trying to defend Mary & of course Roman catholicism with falacies.You had better ignored him at this point & allow him to enjoy his ignorance.You don't seem to undertand the obtsinate nature of "proud" Roman catholic extremisists.

m.k.o2005:

They infuse all these in their movies,music,talks,acts and arts generally so we can start accepting them unknowingly !
May God help us

The totality of the ungodly machinery working to circulate pollution through America & Europe to the whole world captured in one sentence above.I thought I was the only one seeing this.And people will spend hours behind the TV box watching American culture of shameless immoral abominations displayed in award winning high rated movies.No wonder our female folk here now though chaste at first are now aggrassively competeing for who will beat each other in woredom & daylight unclothedness.What of the men?Whaow!! I need not go further.

I think you are a gossip seeking for opportunity.The church of God will keep marching on even if all the demons on this forum post all their obscenities.The lies you all have posted before nko.Has it now killed deeper life or other heaven minded ministries? I challenge this thread to reach 1000 pages of lies & hate & lets see if the church will fall.

First flaw 1800mah for quad core.