bishopjoe02:
dude the world is made of billions of pple Catholic allow cn nt spread d Gospel to the end of the world.
Pls watch ur utterances cos he dat sin against d holy spirit wil not b forgiven.
It is nt written in the bible dat d first church was catholic.

God bless your honesty.These catholic extremists will stop at nothing including lies to buttress their baseless dishonest claims.That fellow can lead this thread to 50 pages to defend Mary & any other falsehood but you can scarcely see him post anywhere to promote or defend God & righteousness.Church without christ is equal to....u can guess.

vedaxcool: ^
surprisingly. u find no verse in the Bible authorizing.violence!
ignorance. is no excuse. to makeup such defense.

Who is ignorant here.Is there not a clear cut difference between Judaism & christianity in the bible.Is it not easy to discern that christianity is the apparent termination of the jewish religious stuctural pattern. What do you know about the bible when you reject its teachings.Is it even of any use giving answer to fellows that disregard reality all because they want full sensual fullfilment in the now.I won't waste my time beyond this.

alexleo:

Sounding like satan.

I initially thought this frosbel fellow is an honest person that misunderstood most scripture but with his determination to pull down christians & living churches that christ purchased with his precious blood with false teachings, I can't but fully agree with you that this man is likely a full time conscious or unconscious agent of satan.

zetch: So.. you think that because you are not gay, that is a choice you had?

if the whole world was gay, and you are heterosexual, you think that must have been a choice you made? stop beating a dead horse, no science can confirm it's a choice people make, there might be a new development linking it to a gene of a fetus. You are born that way for some people the same way many are born to love the opposite sex.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/12/11/scientists-may-have-finally-unlocked-puzzle-of-why-people-are-gay

Serial killers & rapists can prove its not a choice they have to make.There might possibly be a gene connection.So America & western world should quickly legalise & support serial killing & other crimes.Satanists can't do without human blood sacrifices & they have legally registered satanic churches in America.Therefore America should speedily legalise human sacrifices.

I think its because true biblical baptism can only be done when an individual has reached the age of accountability & genuinely repented from sin.It stands as a seal of a full decision for christ only after that decision has been made.A baby cannot make a decision.Moreover the bible only bears record of adult baptism.There was never infant baptism.Besides the biblical pattern of baptism was by full immersion and not by sprinkling or washing from a bowl.
Mk.16:15,16:-And He said unto them go ye into the world and preach the gospel to every creature.He that BELIEVETH and is BAPTISED shall be saved...

Reyginus: Thank you very much. The question now is, why are we expected to forgive even those who show no remorse when God will not do the same?

My last reply fully,concisely & completely answers that question.I felt you are an honest seeker & thats why I took pains to answer that question.I answer no more.

I was deeply moved from the depth of my spirit by these stories.This is what most christians suffered in honor of christ when christianity used to be what it should be.Not now that we have made christianity a mockery by our lives.Read various threads by those that claim to be enlightened christians on this section & you'll know we are still very far.A time when so called christians dictate for God what they choose or else...A time when so called christian ladys would rather die than give up trousers,seductive apparel,worldly attire,worldly make ups,ungodly programmes on TV & internet.A time when the world has become god to so called christians & pastors & they'll rather loose God than give up the pleasures of the world.No wonder the rediculous stories we see on the news about these so called christians & pastors.If as christians we have not come to the point where we'll rather die than forsake righteousness & obedience to Christ we haven't began at all.

Why do muslims tag every evil a supposed pagan,atheist,Eckist,Bhudhist,Bahai may have done as being done by christians & retaliating in that order.How do you know the fellow in that story is a christian.Even if he is a supposed christian does it not occur to you that the many years of unprovoked bombing & destroying of christians and churches in muslim & non muslim communities worldwide may provoke an emotion reprisal response from lone individuals claiming christianity by word but not in deeds.Is the act of killing muslim & bombing mosques a clear teaching of christianity?(I didn't say judaism).But look in the muslim holy book & you see passages directly or indirectly encouraging the killing of christians.

I copied this reply from another thread

E-Engineer:
For every ignorant person that comes to this thread and gets a little swayed or biased in favor of Islam, pls do some research on this topics so you can know that Islam is a repressive, barbaric religion that is propagated by violence and only violence. 1. Do some research thru google on the Muslim hindu genocide that claimed over 100million hindus. 2. Do some research on the Arab conquest of the Sudan and also the darfur crisis which is nothing but arab genocide against Africans . 3.google the Turkish armenian genocide. 4. I don't need to expantiate on the crisis in the north that started since over 100years ago, killing of christians for no just cause, only the barbarity of sharia law is enough to convince anyone.

1. God will still love you & allow all good to abound towards you when you haven't asked for forgiveness.But because of the wicked nature of man,you observe that man will hate,and withdraw all good & favour towards an individual & even seek the persons hurt except he asks for forgiveness.So God requires you to forgive to withhold you from revenge & harmful intent your nature,the devil or fellow men will move you to accomplish.
2. God requires us to ask for forgiveness because of His major interest of having us halt that very transgression.The main ingredient or requirement which God is looking for in a sinners prayer for forgiveness is the FIRM RESOLVE to cease from that particular sin being confessed.Unfortunately many confess without any intent to cease from that sin & continue as before afterwards.
3. It is only when you have asked for pardon & resolved to stop the evil that God can apply the blood of Jesus & silence the accusation of the devil who is earnestly accusing you & presenting good reasons why God should allow him to afflict you or take your life & send you to hell.God needs your pardon plea to silence the devil & apply the blood.So you see there are spiritual laws & proceedures which even the devil is aware of but which unfortunately we men don't know or neglect.So when God tells you to do something do it without asking questions.He's not trying to be overbearing or demanding but seeking your good that moment.

Matt.18:35:-So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

Matt.6:15:-But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Mark 11:26:-But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
(All Authorised KJV).

First of all genuinely repent & give your life to Christ so you know that you have nothing to loose should you die.Go to MFM prayer city or the Lords chosen hdqters Ijesha when the G.O pastor Lazarus is ministering.Coome back & give your testimony here.

Thank God for raising people that can speak sense on this forum.Unbelievable that "almighy" America & U.K can stoop so low to sign gay practise into law.See how they've lost all their respect & integrity in no time.The very first black American president came to disgrace blacks.And I marvel that there's no nationwide outcry against this wickedness.All they do now is to go about according high level respect & recognition to gays to the extent of creating gay pride celebrations & parades.Obama came not to destroy America with weapons but with unwholesome policies & lo he has succeeded.America is finally destroyed.I say watch & see it unfold physically.

When an Ostrich buries its head,it believes it has disappeared from view but does that keep him from present danger?

Millions of christians have given evidence based persuasive TESTIMONIES of supernatural healings of incurable diseases,deliverances from madness & violent demonic activity,revelations,encounters that prove the existence of the spiritual, yet the atheist delibrately chooses to ignore.Many have been confirmed clinically dead & visited the afterlife & seen angels,heaven & hell.Nature itself & science have presented evidences but smart thinking atheists knowing fully well that in the midst of overwhelming evidences there is at least a possibility,refuses to concur.Is this a problem of lack of evidence or a problem of willful disbelief arising from a hate of the idea of a God?

Atheists are like a fellow that does not believe that a far country like Australia exists because he has not been there.Though millions have been there & back & give TESTIMONIES that they have lived,schooled,transacted in Australia yet the fellow says he won't believe till the day he goes there to see for himself.If you don't believe rain exists does that stop rain from falling? If you don't believe in february,does it stop february from arriving at its appointed time?If you don't believe a lion can kill based on what you've been told,does it stop that ferocious beast from killing when opportunity presents? If you don't believe........(please add yours)

Show some seriousness.Include the likely prices if you don't know the actual prices.China is stepping up their game but battery life has been their major challenge.Once they overcome this area,they'll be unbeatable.I am wrongly supposing this is china made.

I choose to follow the way Christ followed,I choose to follow the way the apostles followed,I choose to follow the old time christian "narrow way".God never changes & His word & standards never changes.Grace means recieving the power through constant prayer to live righteously.These "new generation gospel" christians have their mind made up like the atheists & the last I'll ever do is argue.This is how they go on disgracing christianity.Look at the news & see abominations so called christians & pastors are doing in the name of Christ has done it all.Are these the examples the apostles & Christ set ...he that is filthy let him be filthy still,and he that is righteous let him be righteous still...(Rev.22:11)... till that great & terrible day of reckoning.

Reprobacy

We must learn to include balance in our understanding of the scripture & that every scripture has a correspoding scripture that gives it the right meaning.AS A GENERAL RULE EVERY UNDERSTANDING OF THE SCRIPTURE THAT DEVIATES FROM RIGHTEOUSNESS IS WRONG.THIS IS THE STANDARD TEST.
If you believe in God & refuse to do good righteous works as commanded you loose & vice versa.THE WORKS THE APOSTLE PAUL DESCRIBED IN ROMANS 4 & GALATIANS IS THE WORKS OF THE LAW.These to my knowledge are those ceremonies of purification & atonement & ordinances laid out in the old testament especially the leviticus which have to do with killing of lamb,sprinkling of blood and all such.They have been done away with by the coming of Christ but the commandments of WORKS OF LIVING RIGHT are still required(moral law).Shall we sin that grace may abound,God forbid.Rom.6:1,2.
Summary: Faith cannot do without works & works cannot do without faith.

The poster has provided all the bible verses that ignore works/effort to live right in christianity forgeting that the entire bible from genesis to revelation is a catalogue of INSTRUCTIONS on what we christians MUST OR MUST NOT DO(efforts/works) as our moral obligations in our walk with God if we must inherit eternal life(in addition to faith).I hereby present my own scriptures from new testament only lest you say its obsolate old testament requirement:-
James 2:14-26:-faith without works is DEAD.
Matt.26:31-46:-In the judgement Christ damned those that did not work.
Matt.5:16:-that they may see your GOOD WORKS & glorify your father in heaven.
Phil.2:12:-...WORK OUT your salvation with fear & trembling.
Titus 1:16:-they profess to know God but deny Him by their WORKS.
Matt.16:27,1corin.15:58,James 1:22,Heb.6:10 and all scriptures that command what sins we must avoid & what right things we must do to keep our salvation are all pointing to EFFORT/WORKS we must do while in our belief (faith) in Christ.

Doctrine of deception,doctrine from the pit of hell,the very doctrine destroying christianity this endtime,the very doctrine that has established ga'y churches all over the world.Give your life to christ,have faith in christ,forget about works of righteousness of any kind & bingo you got it.Just live all the wayward life you can imagine & have faith in christ & God will do the rest.

DrummaBoy:

So the father attended the wedding after all...' But Bizmhan was trying to make a case for the GS by saying he didn't approve of the lady's dressing and protested it by not attending.

So the more reason the senior Kumuyi should explain to us why one rule applies to some and does not apply to others?

Mr, did you see kumuyi himself posing in any of the pictures.Besides you deliberately interpreted my words as facts when it was clear I was only making likely suppositions based on my understanding of deeper life church.In the case of Kumuyi I simply stated that I WAS TOLD BY A MEMBER.I already know where you belong & deliberately chose to ignore you.I'll not bother replying you after now cos I know you are just a drummerboy in error for your father frosbel.

Tell your friend to go for deliverance immediately at the Lord's chosen charismatic revival ministry Ijesha headquarters or at the MFM prayer city lagos ibadan express.I'll recommend the chosen & its also within the city.

Dear Mr peteregwu please make it a duty to paste testimonies from your church in a thread in this section each day or at least weekly.I believe God is working there cos I've been there.Thanks

Pastor Kumuyi doesn't hold members at gun point & insist they must obey him.He preaches the word with all his life & energy and leaves the members including his children to obey or not.In this case it appears his boy chose to go the other way albeit slightly but as is common, people are blowing it out of proportion as though he went too far.The girl has no heavy make up,no earrings & the gown is not transparent in other honest pictures in several threads.
And certainly Rev. Kumuyi has not changed the standards.His members decide.

Immoral perversion through godlessness gave rise to the gay syndrome.Men like to explore & go to extremes when it comes to evil things but not for the good.They explore with fellow men,animal pets (bestiality) and presently little kids (as in child molestation)and ince$t.
But then America and the western world took it to extremes when they legalised this error instead of creating institutions to help gays defeat the syndrome.The question that defeats the American decision to legalise ga'y is:- Will you legalise child sexu'al molestation,bestiality,rap'e,hard drugs,stealing,ince$t etc just because some group of people feel they can't live without it? Or is it not better to create rehabilitation centres & invest in psychlogical & medical solutions for them?Are there not pr0stitutes,alc0holics,drug addicts that quit due to rehabilitative help?t
Spiritually the answer to ga'y syndrome is found in Rom.1:28-32:-And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge GOD GAVE THEM OVER to a reprobate mind to do those things which are not convenient ...fornication,wickedness,inventors of evil things...KJV.

hisableplc: Daily Manna: Jesus: The Wisdom Of God
Saturday, June 22, 2013*TEXT: PROVERB 8:1-11*
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*"*Key Verse : “For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it” **(Proverbs 8:11).*"
“Tell men that a new lode has been found in some valley or cannon, tell them that some Black Hills country is open for digging of more gold; and all the armies cannot keep the emigrants from streaming thither from every quarter through the plains. Suffering from weariness and from hunger, and in the face of a thousand scalping dangers they will hunt for that gold. Tell men that in the mountains there are precious stones-opals, rubies, sapphires, and the like – and how they will explore and explode the hills for them! And though but one in a thousand can gain them, yet each one of the thousand will think that he is to be the favoured one”- Anonymous writer.
King Solomon was an inspired writer; yet, he was a poet and philosopher. Apostle Paul was also an inspired writer, poet and philosopher. Both of them had the revelation of our Lord Jesus Christ and agreed that He is the “Wisdom of God”.
The modern man’s pursuit and passion are riches, liberty, pleasure, happiness, and knowledge. Man will give his life to attain all these, yet there is no satisfaction or fulfilment outside of our Lord Jesus Christ. In Him all things consist.
King Solomon himself spent a large chunk of his life in search of true wisdom. After wasting almost a lifetime, he declared his experiments as “vanity upon vanity”. Unfortunately, many people, including some Christians are in the rat race of searching for riches without Christ. Their slogan is, “the end justifies the means”.
In the Western world, men have redefined liberty, pleasure and happiness contrary to the word of God. There is now liberty for a man to marry another man or his dog. Seek Jesus Christ with all your heart, and He will satisfy your desires.

*Thought for the Day : The Spirit of Christ in man is more precious than gold.**
*****Share your thoughts and what you've just learnt in the comments section below. Don't forget to SHARE*

Hi hisableplc,
Why don't you create a thread each day for your daily manner.That way I believe it'll make more sense.Thanks

Yes it is.At least I have witnessed few good examples among the multitudes of false ones.

Pygru:
*Primary school cefiticate!
*GCON- Grand Comedian of Nairaland!
*Efcc negative!
*Bsc false prophet chasing!

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so na difference in the pics na im dey cause controbersy
see wetin one of their member talk:




https://www.nairaland.com/1330381/pastor-kumuyis-son-ties-knot/10

Mr Pygru where have you been while the pepetrators of falsehood have been having a field day on this forum.Have you left fighting for the truth to become the Grand comedian?lol.Don't you know that when the righteous are silent unimaginable error will prevail.Don't you know many where following in admiration while you severally defeated the errors of several false teachers on this forum.Return back to your duty post.If the likes of frosbel are untiring in error why should you weary in reproving them.And now there are many more including one subtle poisonous okeyxyz of a person.You are wanted ASAP.

I seriously doubt the reliability of those pictures when I checked the website they were extracted from in an earlier thread on this matter.Even if they were true,as can be possible it is easy to see that most children of reputed men of God refuse to follow the paths of their father.Most delve far into deep ungodliness & immorality far before marriage.So if Kumuyi's son & wife truely did as people claim then they didn't go too far as is normally the case for most kids from men of God.
Besides I heard on a good note from a deeper life member that Pastor Kumuyi was not in that wedding which might signify lack of support for that purported slight deviation.And I believe this because you don't see Kumuyi in any of the photos displayed so far throughout the different threads on this matter.