plaetton: This question is simple enough. It is the type of question a child would ask a parent.
After all, we have been taught that God Created every living thing for his glory.

Ubenedictus: you asked when did luther advise his disciple to sin strongly, i decided to present the where luther says you can commit muder and fornication inasmuch as you trust the lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world. OSAS is just the development of sola fide.
I f y o u a r e a p r e a c h e r o f me r c y , d o n o t p r e a c h a n i ma g i n a r y b u t t h e t r u e me r c y . I f t h e me r c y i s t r u e , y o u mu s t t h e r e f o r e b e a r t h e t r u e , n o t a n i ma g i n a r y s i n . G o d d o e s n o t s a v e t h o s e wh o a r e o n l y i ma g i n a r y s i n n e r s . B e a s i n n e r , a n d l e t y o u r s i n s b e s t r o n g , b u t l e t y o u r t r u s t i n C h r i s t b e s t r o n g e r , a n d r e j o i c e i n C h r i s t wh o i s t h e v i c t o r o v e r s i n , d e a t h , a n d t h e wo r l d . We wi l l c omm i t s i n s wh i l e we a r e h e r e , f o r t h i s l i f e i s n o t a p l a c e wh e r e j u s t i c e r e s i d e s . We , h owe v e r , s a y s P e t e r ( 2 . P e t e r 3 : 1 3 ) a r e l o o k i n g f o rwa r d t o a n ew h e a v e n a n d a n ew e a r t h wh e r e j u s t i c e wi l l r e i g n . I t s u f f i c e s t h a t t h r o u g h G o d ' s g l o r y we h a v e r e c o g n i z e d t h e L amb wh o t a k e s awa y t h e s i n o f t h e wo r l d . N o s i n c a n s e p a r a t e u s f r om H i m , e v e n i f we we r e t o k i l l o r c omm i t a d u l t e r y t h o u s a n d s o f t i me s e a c h d a y . D o y o u t h i n k s u c h a n e x a l t e d L amb p a i d me r e l y a sma l l p r i c e wi t h a me a g e r s a c r i f i c e f o r o u r s i n s ? P r a y h a r d f o r y o u a r e q u i t e a s i n n e r .

Decide for yourself.

bizmahn:
Pentecostals don't follow LUTHER OR CALVIN,they follow the BIBLE & the apostles.The apostes are the true pioneers of christianity & not the catholic church.The apostles by the holy ghost pioneered pentecostalism.They didn't poineer the catholic church filled with mary idolization & other unbiblical & unapostolic dogmas.

barbie6: D last time it happened to me was last two yrs. Wen i sleep, something like a dark shadow will just lie on me and b pressing d whole of my body, d creature doesnt have a face, during dat period, i won't be able to move an inch or open my mouth to call Jesus or call 4 help, i prayed about it and it stopped, it just started recently, it has happened for 3 consecutive days now without stoping. Pls what is it or is it my illusion playing pranks on me?

Ray McBlue: @Op, Miracle is not really spiritual.

Take for instance, a friend of mine suffers from a migraine, and was desperate for a cure. Science wouldn't give him that, rather it manages it. But my friend wanted an absolute cure, which droves him into religion. One day, he met a certain well known pastor one on one, and the pastor told him to go home and take a couple of valium then lie down and try to sleep, which he did and presto... the migraine disappeared completely as he woke up.

Now, our Christian friends will predictably start shouting their customary 'Praises' to their God and claiming 'miracle', but the truth of the matter is it ain't.

It's simply a psychological phenomenon, nothing more. My friend believed whole-heartedly that the Valium would cure him even before taking it, and the brain relayed the message to the nervous system that everything is okay, and the migraine disappeared. Apparently, a Psychologist and Neorologist would be able to explain this better than I.

There was a test conducted on a certain individual. He was given an injection that was originally water, but was told it was a poison of some kind that could kill within 5 minutes. In less than 3 minutes, the patient started displaying all the symptoms that a real victim of the said poison would display. Why? Simply because he accepted wholeheartedly that it's over for him. Again, Psychology 101.

In conclusion, Miracle is nothing but psychological manifestation of well-being, and varies from individual to individual.

bizmahn: A THREAD WHERE ATHEISM IS FULLY FINALLY DEBUNKED.THEY HAVE NO EXPLANATION SIMPLY PUT.

Enigma: For anyone interested, there is a related thread that further shows that Roman Catholics are falsely/fraudulently claiming things done (or done mostly) by other people --- especially the Church/es to which people like Ignatius belonged.

Eastern Orthodox - The Orthodox CATHOLIC Church

https://www.nairaland.com/1254965/eastern-orthodox-church-orthodox-catholic

Ubenedictus: it is a pity that you feel this way, but all i wrote above is true, once saved always saved is the doctrine of the reformers calvin and co, if you know anything about calvin and the reformation you would not have tried to argue.
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protestants can repeat this till they are blue in the face but the fact remains that the last of the apostles died around 100 AD and the reformation started in the 16th century bringing forth doctrrines that were totally unheard of in the first 1500yrs of christianity. Catholics have a stronger claim to the apostles, doctrines like OSAS reminds me of what scripture says 'in the latter days some will abandon the faith and follow decieving spirits'1tim4:1. So for 1500yrs of christianity the holyspirit didnt teach OSAS but invented that doctrine in the time of calvin abi?
Go back and take a long look at the doctrines protestanism was founded on, then you can tell me how apostolic they are.

bizmahn:
All in a bid to paint the catholic church white & the protestants and pentecostals black.I wish u had a purer motive.It's even a greater fallacy to also insinuate that all protestants agree with Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS)aka eternal security dogma.You know thats crude blatant lie.Regarding Luther urging people to sin...where did you get that?
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Pentecostals don't follow LUTHER OR CALVIN,they follow the BIBLE & the apostles.The apostes are the true pioneers of christianity & not the catholic church.The apostles by the holy ghost pioneered pentecostalism.They didn't poineer the catholic church filled with mary idolization & other unbiblical & unapostolic dogmas.

bizmahn:
He clearly won.Christ won,The apostles won,The bible won.Praise be to God.

italo: @ Ubenedictus,

You have said enough to prove him an envious pretender.

We can now allow him "win" his war against the Catholic Church.

A war that Emperors Nero, Diocletian, Martin Luther and the communists together satan couldnt win.

Mee234:
These people turning the grace of God into lasciviousness should be avoided. Men who have no grace at all preaching about grace.

Ubenedictus: this isn't some subtle heresy, this is the grounds on which the protestant reformation was built built on, the doctrine of faith alone, absolute grace(once saved always saved) and penal substitution go hand in hand. Luther once adviced his disciple to sin and sin strongly because inasmuch as they have faith God can't condem them for their sins. Calvin and co developed that teaching.
That teaching isn't subtle and it isn't new, it is as old as protestanism and the very basis of reformed theology

bizmahn: Because most of them support these evils & don't count them as sin.Some even label those that preach against such as LEGALISTIC & others brand pastors that preach against such evils "CULT"

bizmahn: Warning:Many have derailed on this forum,don't get to be one.DON'T GIVE IN TO SUBTLE GOSPEL OF GRACE THAT"SUBTLY" PERMITS SIN,LOOSENESS & WORLDLINESS with hidden beliefs that"subtly" OFFER LICENCE TO SIN...Shallom.

lacum:
do u even use ur brain or u just take in everytin said by ur pastor?

Oyinprince: How can they say bein homosexual is ok,bt d act is wat makes it a sin... its lyk sayin havin d nature of sin(of d devil) is ok, but doin sinful acts is d sin... Or mayb they just mixin tins up

Ajibam: I preached about the anger of God on sinners,,they all nail Me To cross that am Preaching Gospel Of Fear

Logicboy03: Enigma, you can argue with yourself all you like.

THE FACT REMAINS THAT YOUR MINISTRY DID NOT COMPILE THE BIBLE. IT WILL ALWAYS BE OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH COMPILED THE BIBLE AND THAT IS THE SIMPLE TRUTH.


FUNNY HOW THESE PROTESTANT CHRISTIANS THAT ALWAYS CLAIM TO BE LIVING IN THE RIGHTEOUS PATH OF CHRIST CAN NOT ACCEPT SIMPLE TRUTH