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The moment Bonny Igbo kinsmen from the hinterland sent down a huge Elephant to Bonny Island for the remembrance of Late Peppels Father.

cc SlayerForever, Igboid, Ekealterego, ThickSharon123...

Alabo7978, Putingdbutt and the other pirate, you are invited to read as well

OreMI22:
I need to buy you a bottle of Hero beer! One thing about the Igbo person is that he/she desperately wants to be accepted as a "Nigerian" if there is any true word as "Nigerian". However, whether they pretend or are genuinely ignorant about what Nigeria truly is about, they will all get the same treatment by Nigeria.GUARANTEED!
So it is better to understand Nigeria and act according to the realities than play ostrich all the time.

Igbos are the only ones that carry the "One-Nigeria" mantra on their head like a burden that has been killing them. Nollywood practically started in Iweka road, Onitsha and Pound Road, Aba with the early movies such as living in bondage, Nneka the pretty serpent, etc. The Yorubas quickly set up their own "Nollywood" in Lagos and the north quickly set up its own version in Kano. Shockingly, the Igbos decided that they needed to "UNITE" Nollywoods and moved theirs to Lagos and started the English movies! The Yorubas used their money and Infrastructure to set up another specific Yoruba movies version in Ibadan, while Igbos were still too ashamed to continue Igbo language movies like Living in Bondage that gave them fame in the first instance! They said that they didn't want to make "Igbotic" movies. Whatever that meant. In time, those tactless Igbos seeking a "UNITED Nigerian Nollywood" have gradually learned that there is nothing "Nigerian" that can survive or have support from other tribes.

It is the same thing that they did to some Igbo Musicians that thought that if they sang in Yoruba language or English, somehow those people will not remember that they are Igbo. Well, such idiocy! None of those musicians exist today. It is the artists that understood their audience and understood that in Nigeria, it is only your people that will promote you first before others will appreciate you. So they sang mostly in the Igbo language that are still around today and doing very well. All the "One Nigeria" artists that preferred singing in strange languages than their own have all been liquidated.

Anywhere in the world, what I have written here will be considered extreme nationalism and distasteful. But Nigeria is not a normal place. It is a place where people ask your name and your parent's tribe before they decide if your art is good or not. Those "Lagos" Igbos and others that would like to play the ostrich and pretend that what has been said here is untrue should continue to delude themselves. From knocking down their houses and markets in Lagos to other practices they have faced, I am just glad that some of them are beginning to smell the coffee and understand the true nature of the space called Nigeria. That is just the bitter truth. They can continue to ignore it at their own peril.

Exactly. Immediately Yorubas took it from then, they maintained their Yoruba Movie trademark and never integrated it into the main stream Nollywood thus claiming ownership and maintaining their turf.

Same with the Northerners that most people think they are senseless . They maintain theirs and trademark it as Kannywood, receiving exclusive enforcement, recognition and aid for it.

It was after our kinsmen have realised that they have lost the game that they started acting funny, most of them realised that they are third choice in endorsements and awards in the movie scheme. Instead of them to shoulder their utter defeat like men and women, they are looking for a way to smuggle themselves back home and expect us to give them heroes welcome. They think we are ignorant, that we don't know their condition.
It is now obvious to their ignorant selves that there was never a Nigerian Nollywood but Igbo Nollywood

The game became obvious to them when Africa Magic launched Yoruba Channel and still use both the and new for Yoruba films with different percentage of Yoruba language in it. They begged for Igbo channel but by then it was already too late.

I swear eh, If someone else try to package that rotten Nollywoods defeat as "RETURN" for us here again I will break bottle on his/her head.

Seriously, Mega2biz don't bring that useless Nollywood nonsense here again.

This thread is for progress not dump site for Losers

We have no interest in sharing their disgrace. They lost to Yorubas and they should learn to shoulder their defeat like our old musicians that fell for the Lagos Fever.

Mega2biz:
Nollywood is fast coming into Anambra with a lot of shooting starring big names.
See what Chizzy Alichi and Chief Imo did during a movie shooting in a newly opened classic hotel 'Dabara hotel' in Nnewi


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DatnnGrL3NM

See these ones. This is not worth celebrating because Nollywood lost her relevance the very day they left Igbo land, now when they are at the verge of being anhilated by Yoruba Movies in Lagos, they want to bring it home so that we will all share the disgrace together.

No, no, no, they should enjoy their defeat and disgrace in peace.

Ọ dị mma, a gbakwuru ndị iro mana ọ diba njọ e bunata ya ụnọ. Ndị ara.

They think we don't know what they are facing in Lagos. Nonsense, they didn't learn from our musicians that ran to Lagos and lost the music to them over there. If they can't fight Yoruba home movies in that Lagos that they ran to, then it will be Shameless of them to bring their defeat home.

No Apologies and accolades from this angle. Nollywood is dead.

Lol. What is this?

Putindbutt:
Ted Talk?... U are sick.
You think Ted Talk is like your ummuna village council that you can bribe with kolanuts?

You just fond of opening your mouth and talk foolishly, very foolishly.

You can continue to share your foolish talks with your folks, among yourselves don't quote me again with your sick brain.

You can't even stand the lady.
She is not for your emotional outburst but facts. Counter her with facts not emotions.

Can you tell us what brought out the real wickedness in you people to attempt to wipe Bonny peoples identity, language and culture?
What exactly?
Thanks.

wirinet:
Another IPOB youth.
Displaying violent, chest beating and terrorist behaviour.
I am certain you are either from Bayelsa or Umuahia (or at least one parent).

Ok. The king of Warri should be called the "Pere of Ijaws"

I don't know or care whatever you have going with the dude but we won't tolerate any slander or misguided statement from either Bini or her slave in Warri
Be guided

Alabo7978:
Liebermantic show us the remaining of the screenshot on Bonny from that Excerpt you showed me on how peppel go his name.

You all want to cover this...
We won't let it happen.



Show us the remaining of the screenshot!

This will be the last time any of us will show you pirates anything.

Bonny was, is and will forever remain Igbo.

Lol. So Zulum is planting flowers in the desert and you are cheering him.

Between you and Zulum I wonder who mumu pass.

JANK23H:
Guy you are falling hand.Go and rest.

Take a cool shower and snuggle up in your bed.

You know it is undeniable. Jo men weren't existing in Southern Nigeria until late 19th century.

JANK23H:
I'm excited.

I can't wait.

How I wish you people imposed yourselves on those places to begin with.

Technically speaking, you people are not exerting any political right on any of those places. The last you people tried to make a decision there, it was resisted by Opobo, and they later disgraced you lots at the supreme Court.

So, I hope you understand that when the need rises, Ndigbo has more to gain in physical confrontation than Court arguments.

JANK23H:
abegi shift......

Like you would say,show us excerpts from a neutral source,from the 15th century to 18th century

All these Igbo doctored work dey pain my eye.

If make me vex, I'll bring out Alagoa's books now.

There is no Jo men, Ejo or whatever you people are known with today in any book prior to late 19th century.

JANK23H:
When will you start?

You know when. If you lots try to make your wish of coercing Igboland a reality

JANK23H:
Erm....by the way,with all these outstanding findings from Crow and Co.When are you approaching the International court of whatever for settlement?

Actually, Ndigbo won't need International Court when the time comes because we will gain more from physical confrontation.

JANK23H:
Lol @ Oru-igbo

This a recent one o

You were saying?

JANK23H:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY_EBijbQyU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_MoBZrSmJw

Watched the two videos but can't see anywhere they said that it is directed to a particular town or village unlike Jo men's Genocidal Videos and posts like this.

JANK23H:
They've been saying Nembe is Igbo for sometime, although sometimes backtracking.They dug out a phony video showing supposed Nembe boys speaking Igbo and destroying a king's palace.I thought you saw all that.

They sit somewhere in the SE and allocate lands to themselves.I showed a video of Kolokuma and Nembe counting,they calmed a bit and then continued their rubbish


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh6j1H1k-5o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FqulHr-Mq0

You mean one of your Cultural genocide tools?
I am surprised you pirates haven't done video for Bonny. Imagine teaching people new language to speak as mother tongue.

Even your Bayelsa state listed Nembe and Ijaw as two distinct and separate languages. One is Igboid while the Other is not even close to anything in Nigeria.

Mother tongue is not learnt on YouTube but what an individual learn after birth.

Alabo7978:
shatapp.
orisa is wrong, we call God Ayiba.

now you're no longer interested in Bonny?
after ofoigbo drowned your lies by giving me another evidence after the first one from Ekealterego.

now it's nembe.
owu means juju or water spirit, in long form "owuamapu"
come on getawt of here.
changers of narrative.
yorubas call deity or a god orisa or orisha.
why dem no claim too?

you have dumped Bonny agenda now to face Nembe. meth is really bad.

That was how you people changed Pepple to "Perekule"
So you are saying that we are all blind or that Baikie don't know what he heard around Nembe and Oru-Igbo?

He said that "throughout all the district all but one language is spoken" and from what we saw Orisa, Ute, Mingi/mmiri, ọwụ/ọgwụ proves it.

All is Igbo, and if you read the appendix, you will see that he wrote in comparison with Igbo in general of which he chose Isuama dialect.
In the book he recognised Aboh as having control over most of those parts and Bonny people calling a part of Oru "Aboh nta" which means "smaller Aboh" in Igboland language and the real Aboh "Aboh ba" which means "Greater Aboh" in the same Igbo Language.

Now what concerns your own ancestors Jo men in all this?

Olatara:
Your own dey your body .
Keep judging a dead man

Hope you learnt something from my post.

So according you Zoo people, a bunch of "ESN" attacked, overpowered some policemen and later ate them, then somehow the Police discovered where they are hiding, went there and the same ESN that overpowered the previous ones didn't resist but relaxed and posed for some pictures right?

When you Zoo Cannibals are done deceiving yourselves, you'll return to reality.
BTW, a thread just reported that you Zoo Cannibals went to restock your pots with another Policemen at Idemili.

I wonder the kind of Policemen that will relax for Zoo heartless people to play politics with their lives.

Cultistupdate:
But the last one where they beheaded those force men and roasted them for food was done by ESN. Because I later got the first part of the video before the beheading they identified themselves as ESN

And later the Police miraculously came to their camp and they didn't resist but relax for pictures to be taken.

The way you Nigerians reason baffles me.

Zoo people after eating themselves still went back to attack another of their police.
Cannibal Nigger Areans

Alabo7978:
lol...
I froze the most dullest clown in your circus after obliterating him with his bomb and for long no mentions and then you came up with this stupidity to change the course of the debate by saying ijo isn't Oru? JANK23H please come and see these chameleon now changing the course of the argument, now he claims my Nembe is Igbo...my own clan o, chei LMAO.
if this was a law court, the judge would throw you out.
now you are shifting Oru away from ijo for the first time since I in particular have been saying it, it didn't bother you, now you want to change the course of the blunder from your clown ofoigbo.
father lord...
Nembe is my Language you dunce.. Oru is ijo and Oru means a god or a deity.
get out of here you swerving chameleon.

Emotional outbursts change Nothing.
Nobody is doubting your personal Jo man ancestry. Not me or anybody here but the indigenes of Nembe as reported by Baikie spoke in Igbo.
Care to explain
Ute
Orisa
ọwu etc that was reported by Baikie?

SlayerForever:
I think what happened with all these tribes was that majority of them were Igbos but allowed their language to be displaced. So today the Igbo still exists but as second language.

I think the right word should be first language because they don't learn it from other Igbo people or are forced to learn/speak. They learn the Igbo language at home as first language but few are compelled to speak another thing as official/working language.
For example, the local markets in Bonny and Nembe are highly dominated by the locals, so any language that dominates there is their first.
Since it is Igbo, that is their first. Only God knows the people that speak the funny one and the circumstances they speak it.

backnbeta:
He did drugs, married with a kid and probably low resources to maintain the family...so many things to make him depressed. The parents may not even be any better and probably didn't support his lifestyle which may explain why they didn't contact the wife. All in all, frustration is written all over this story

Exactly. He was killed by his penis.

He died because of Lack of self control.
If he controlled his dick and didn't impregnate you, he will still be (directly or indirectly) under the support of his parents or relatives pending his financial independence.

SlayerForever:
Nembe, Brass, Kalabari (which has no meaning in Ijaw!) are very different from Ijaw people!

They don't even speak the same language.

Have you noticed that all the opposition from the Jo men have always been based on how different a part of Igbo like Bonny is from the rest or another part of Igbo.
They have never compared relationships between them and the places. By relationships, I mean with actual Jo men or Ijaw or whatever they call themselves these days.

IDENNAA:
Because Igbo is their worse nightmare!! Then shiver when they hear Igbo.

When they are slogging it out with their Bini cousins we stay away because their importance and values are irrelevant to an average Igbo man but soon as an Igbo thread is created the heart palpitations starts....we scare the living day light out of these ccowards

LOL, I still remember those days like yesterday.
Ndigbo don't give a fvck what Bini or Yoruba are arguing or even if the two team up because whatever the result it, it will not and will never be a threat to Ndigbo

Unlike the Afonjas, just one Igbo man is a deadly threat to their existence talkless of a state or the whole people.
Just look at Afonjas. It is only an Afonja that will come by the day and say that Anambra is Igala, then at Night that Anambra is Bini on behalf of the Minorities that are being cautious.

Ekealterego:
This is a whole big topic that will lead to so many different rabbit holes.

You can still see the metamorphosis of the Oru and acculturalisation or switch till today.
Oru are not technically split between from the Igbos into forming "Ijoid" groups..
From Ukwani (Aboh), Egbema, Ndoni, Ogbaru, Oguta and many of the places in around those areas are the home base of the ancient Orus...
The one who ventured down the Orashi and the Niger River towards the Atlantic shaped the modern Bayelsa and many other places.

For the ones still experiencing the metamorphosis, you can see it in Biseni people. Till today, most Biseni people, their great great father and surnames are 100% Igbos with some aspect of their culture but politically, they are either independent or politically a different group. Many didn't lose their names or culture, but they lost or evolved their language.

I don't know exactly when the sea pirates left their boats to influence these areas which they "infested" but something culturally significant was clearly evolving.

This is what the Ijos hang on or use to intimidate these minorities into submission because they have been able to get a collection of Igboid, Edoid and Ibibiod people.

If for instance they want to brainwash Abua/Odual and Andoni people, they will send representatives from Ogbia/Kugbo and send them in the name of "Ijaws".

Right to the point. This is a well articulated analysis.
I noticed that whenever issues like this arises, these pirates tend to shout so much in a bid to make their challenger not to dig into recorded history and reports.
It is now obvious that first, they are not oru and a reasonable amount of all the land they are coercing belongs to Igbo people. Well, a day of reckoning will surely come.
Nigeria's existence has brewed a fertile ground for a long physical confrontations that will finally decide National boundaries amongst southern Nigerians. Only the strong will have the lions share and I know what our people are capable of. I am beginning to think that this is part of the British plan for its continued existence.
A fertile ground that will bring need for the purchase of Western/Eastern weapons.

Ekealterego:
The reason why I don't want to go too deep into that one is that a whole lot changed in those areas since the past 100 years and the analysis can only be best done by UNBIASED erudite historians.

But this brings my mind to Dr. Horton in 1860s... Definitely Bonny didn't change.

However, Okirika did change linguistically or at least evolved and fused into something different because those areas are new settlements.

See this reason why I didn't dig out Horton because it will lead us down a different rabbit hole. Let's stick to Bonny.

Just to show you a snippet of Horton.

Read this excerpt. 1864-6

True, Language is dynamic but one question Southerners should be asking themselves is "who exactly are these modern Ijaw people"
Both what you posted and reports from Baikie clearly states that Oru and Nembe are Igbo speaking areas and are still today. Nembe's own only comes out when dispute arises.