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Some of these stories are so weird and sound incredible that I don't want to believe it's true. NSA simply added 'department of finance' to its portfolio?!

When we start seeing convictions of big wigs, I'll be a believer.

I think the owner is getting heat from the authorities.
He should have chosen better ways to pass on the message though...

If you all have the good of your country at heart, you'll never support anyone blindly nor be in the camp of both major political parties.

Fashola's a laughable one that is just plain shït faced lying.
Jonathan oversaw a take all you get regime.

Charge them to court for treason and corruption
Swift prosecution.

Tis is too much to bear.

I can see Segun Ajose too.
Another solid boxer. I hope he'll get back to a title challenge position soon.

The justice department seems to be a weak link with their alternative ways of giving legal succour to powerful thieves. All these revelations, someone needs to get a pioneering befitting jail term that'll set the motion for other thieves.

Start prosecutions now, any judge aiding and abetting should be publicly and massively shamed

When you have so much underemployed humans, you get an almost limitless supply of miscreants.
From North, West to the East.

Country's already lawless but no need to act like the extremists up north who will maim butterflies for ulterior views. I hope stuff like this gets nipped quickly.

Ok Dasuki, the dude in charge of procurement didn't know what he was saying or how many tanks he supposedly bought.
Point taken.

bidexiii:
You Avent answered my question yet.............?

Are you asking me why your country is so secretive to shield number of MRAPS from whats a private defence company?
The head of the former government's NSA stated 14 we never heard his mention of mrap numbers.
So as the leader of the procurement mentioned 14, did you import the others?

Lol.
100 tanks, 50 tanks.
All good. Our tanks were purchased via Excalibur from Hungary. This is well known for those monitoring external defence stuff. Go on and link to the eventual transfer by rail to Czech Republic to excalibur.
Start googling and see for yourself.
And if the ex nsa has stated a certain number of tanks, where are your own numbers from.

bidexiii:
So with all the various pictures of NA t72M1 and t72A you've being seing around and you still believe or think we only have 16. Anyway that a the few links I have to prove myself,@ henry can you please help me out

Dasuki's lawyers released statements about 14 tanks bought. SIPRI stated same. These tanks were part of the bunch sold by Hungary to excalibur.

Like said, supply me valid references for your own numbers.

14 tanks were only delivered.
SIPRI mentions 10 + 4 tanks.

If you're current with international norms, questions were being raised (various international blogs plus videos and pics showing excalibur before it was known that they were to be exported) about Czech Republic trying to move tanks into Ukraine at the height of the Russian/Ukrainian crisis (this were some that eventually became Nigeria's)

Unless you can do better than the sources you posted, I'll believe we got more than a bit over a dozen.

By the way, excalibur purchased the tanks from Hungary.

That was simply a flanking attack on what looks like an isolated base.
Simply put, with ineffective barriers or defenses they probably had to withdraw. I can't just believe they left a BTR behind even for a minute.

Syrian troops got besieged in multiple bases and most never got overrun due to airpower plus defences. Their's is a 3 year ongoing battle, ours is 6 fuccking years.

All those found guilty of stealing money for weapons should be charged with death penalty or life incarceration.

Please that's not a btr. bleeps sake,
Little to no radio comms means no or limited information. Even if there was,
Couple that with a vision less leadership for the best part of 7 years failing to purchase cas aircrafts.
What about our mi24/35 ... ?

Army needs to start releasing videos too

Why would anyone post up a status depicting his dead colleagues body just to wish him RIP.
Lack of etiquette or what!

Shymm3x:
So F-16 shooting down SU-24 is the cause of ya joy, no?

Why didn't the F-16 go near the MiG-31?

No care in the world for Turkey. They should get stuffed with barrages for all I care. Clusterfucck of situations in ME.

Turkey has been one of the most baffling countries, simply letting others walk through to Syria. I couldn't care for them.
Putin too, with his blowing up of a civilian airliner gets taste of his own medicine. But Turkey with their own Caligula of a President is the greater evil. I hope they get a Russian whack a mole treatment.

Turkish jets blew up Russian jet.
All sorts of conspiracy theorist suddenly moved their bed and pillows to camp here.

The Turks on the other hand... ?
Radar showed only the smallest window of incursion, yet pulled the trigger the sidewinder trigger.

You should be scared of extremist ideology. I read from a blogger with deep knowledge of BH and so, seems the guy is also a bit of a radicalist too. Spoke a bit about potential groups in Kogi and its the reason why round after round of prison breaks have been recorded in the state due to the sympathisers in the state.

ocelot2006:
Is that so? Please do share how much the Iraqis spent & what they got in return. While you're at it, please do add those items you refused to add like the Infantry Fighting Vehicles (IFVs), MRAPs (CS-VP3 Bigfoots, Igirigi, Police Springbok, Streit Spartan Mk1-3s, REVA MRAPs), those new police Bell helicopters, the Police's dedicated Public Land Mobile Network (PLMN), Abuja's dedicated surveillance system, the Isreali Elbit network monitoring system, the basic patrol vehicles and troop carriers. Add to all these funds for those specialists and tactical trainings home and abroad. Finally, include the funds required to run the various Ops from intelligence gathering to security ops, to major military offensives. Maybe then you'll truly understand and appreciate the fact that our counter insurgency effort dont come cheap

Dude. Wake up...

I specifically highlighted the delivery of piecemeal hardware in bold.

14 tanks(10 from Ukraine, 4 from Czech) 10 refused Iraqi BTR 4s, 10 drones armed and unarmed, 10 Streit, 10 Igigiri, possible 6 alpha jets and 3 king air. (?) mi 17/35,
Plus the unbolded all up in your list, you want to say it's up to a billion?

REVA + Bigfoot (~$330000/ $500000 respectively) are probably close to close to 130 or little bit more.

By the way, that's just the accounting for one tranche of sums released especially for boko haram. $2-3 billion alone was released within the last year and you can put your hands on your chest that that's reasonable with the released list?

ocelot2006:
Did you include the MRAPs, IFVs, APCs, LCAVs,? UAVs, UCAVs, MLRSs,Gun trucks, Fast Assault Vehicles, Attack helicopters, refurbished transport helicopters (PUMA), new Light utility helicioters (Gazelle), new attrition replacement Alpha jets, new Airforce ISR platforms (Beechcraft aircrafts), tactical vests, assault rifles, pistols, ammunition, new gravity bombs, etc?

I will buy all those over and out with just a little under a Billion.
Before quoting me again, go look up the numbers bought versus the amount spent.

The bolded are indicative of the piece meal we got after the supposed billions spent.

14 tanks
(?) BMPs
2 defanged civilian Alpha jets (second hand from an American company)
(?) MRLS
(?) Mi 17/Mi 35
(?) Armed drones and other drones
(?) well used Gazelles

Only the gullible would see this and take it as valid explanation.
Now go read up how much Iraqis expended and what they got in return for their billions, while at it, can they release the invoices for all the items bought above to compare real world prices versus Nigerian inflated prices?

The issue is, the money made available for weapons were not commensurate with the weapons on ground. 14 tanks! Just 14!! After the billions of dollars spent.
Country is bleeped!!!

Henry240:
Hope you know that Navy S.F have much more different types of Camos than Army?


Nobody in the public really knows the number of S.F units we have.

I just give up then.
Lol

(on my mobile right now) But ^^ search for 'NA SF' under 'foreign affairs'. See the variations. All black, Tiger stripes, digital Russian, Digital grey, all the sorts.

How many types of SF do we haveif I may ask?
we shouldn't water down any exclusive looking soldier as SF nor because they got trained by units abroad. I'd thought they would have drawn up tailored requirements of what we wanted from our special forces rather than outsourcing their training to others.

The Navy seems to have its act together unlike getting confused with the Army's.

bidexiii:
Dude you make me......... !!!
Nigeria army currently uses. 2 - 3 camouflage, except for soldiers who still wears the old types of camouflage? Now those guys that just came from eastern Europe ; I mean the SF uses only two types of camouflage. It's serious capital to standardize a army of over 200,000!
The picture below shows the three basic camo variants the NA uses.

Nah bro. It's way too many varieties... Scroll back 3 - 5 pages. SF units inclusive(getting trained in different countries don't automatically mean all are SF), how many kinds of varieties have they got on?

Add to the regular soldiers with their different blends of woodland, desert and digital camo. It's an eyesore.
Tis a professional army, not a militia. Or is it different Divisions have chosen their own clothing.

I could once tell Nigerian soldiers by their uniform. Now, with over 9 - 15 different patterns, you'd never be sure who's a soldier or not.

Imagine if Lagos had good transport links (trains, ferries,etc) from other nearby states. Probable outcome would have been more people preferring the more relaxed outskirts living, shuttling in to work and jetting back to their respective locations. Before

That was always going to be a possible solution.

Country's structure needs to be seriously revised.

Muslims need to start telling themselves the truth.
The actions of ISIS does more harm than a cartoon depicting their prophet.

Claims of not being Muslims is akin to stating BH are not Nigerians from the North East. People hold demented extreme views which gave rise to IS and the likes of BH, chant Allahu Akbar, yet they say they're not Muslims.

The LRA is also a demented, extreme group in Uganda which professes Christianity and carries out acts which are very far from christian beliefs, however they choose to tag themselves Christians, which I cannot willfully take away. I'll also be very worried if various such groups were scattered all over the planet committing just about the same modus operandi.

However, if that was the case, I'll then have to admit generally that there was a problem with interpretation of messages or doctrines. It'll be foolish trying to deny they weren't Christians if they were committing heinous crimes the world over in the name of Christ!

Spaces or properties located within an area of barely there infrastructures at Hollywood prices.

If they're holy and all...

Soldiers are also professionals ala they're protectors of a nation which means they'll have to kill, attack and defend sometimes.

Killing on the battlefield ot fighting belligerents are part of their mandate, however murdering in cold blood, oppressing and all that. Surely not!!

Good ol' pontoon bridges.
Solid work...