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Business To BusinessRe: Prompt Engineering: How Nigerian Businesses Are Profiting From This New Business by Blackbelly(m): 11:01pm On Jul 15, 2025
Are you skilled with video prompt engineering?
ProgrammingRe: Prompt Engineering - Efficient Use Of Chatgpt & Other AI Tools by Blackbelly(m): 11:00pm On Jul 15, 2025
Are you skilled with video prompt engineering?
PetsRe: I Need To Adopt A Parrot by Blackbelly(m): 8:58pm On Mar 21, 2025
space9880:
how long before they start to talk Mr. Black belly
Talking is a function of the birds desire to mimic human communication and hence cannot be forced. What can help is bonding with the bird and frequently talking to it
PetsRe: I Need To Adopt A Parrot by Blackbelly(m): 1:06pm On Mar 20, 2025
I have 3 African grey parrots that I've kept for just over a year. 2 of them have been a bit hostile towards each other and I want to sell the trouble maker. If you're interested, hit me up. P.S the bird is currently 1year and 5months old
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Blackbelly(m):
GloryJoyeux:
Hello,

I appreciate the trust — let’s dive into this setup!

1. Battery Backup — 5kWh is Too Small

While you want to rely mainly on solar panels, a 5kWh battery won’t cut it for this setup — here’s why:

• Cloud cover is the real issue, not rain. Even a brief moment of thick cloud cover can drastically drop solar output. When that happens, your inverter pulls from the battery to keep the load running. With only 5kWh available, the battery’s Battery Management System (BMS) will likely hit its discharge limit, causing a shutdown to protect itself.
• Cloud cover can last longer than you think. Sometimes, it lingers for an hour or more — even in dry season, where heat itself reduces solar efficiency due to the temperature coefficient (solar panels lose efficiency as they get hotter).
• Your battery should match peak load capacity, even if you don’t plan to rely on it often. This ensures uninterrupted power when solar drops momentarily.

Scenario to consider:
If it rains all day, or you lose grid power, will you shut down operations entirely? Likely not. A generator is a fallback, but you can’t assume employees won’t mistakenly run solar-only during that downtime — a larger battery prevents sudden shutdowns.

My Recommendation: Go for a minimum 10-15kWh battery setup to handle peak loads for at least 1-2 hours if solar yield drops.

2. Solar Panel Choice — Stick with Proven Brands

21 panels of 720W each sounds powerful — but be cautious. There’s a reason 720W panels aren’t mainstream yet. I strongly recommend Jinko 615W panels — they’re proven, reliable, and widely tested in real-world conditions.

Let’s compare output:

• 21 × 720W = 15.1kW (on paper)
• 21 × 615W = 12.9kW (Jinko)

However, real-world output is different from STC ratings:

• 15.1kW setup? Realistically expect a base of 12kW peak — and even that might last only an hour on a good day. Average yield will likely be around 9kWh in rainy/cloudy conditions.
• 12.9kW Jinko setup? You’ll likely still get a reliable 9-10kWh average with better stability and longevity. Trust on this

My Recommendation: Stick with proven, high-efficiency panels like Jinko 615W for reliability and predictable output.

3. Inverter Size — 20kVA is Sufficient

Your 20kVA inverter (roughly 19kW output) is perfectly sized for your setup — it can handle your 7.5kW oven plus other smaller appliances running simultaneously.

However, let’s rethink your peak load:

• Your oven is 7.5kW, but you’ll likely have lights, fans, and other appliances running too — realistically, you’re looking at an 8kW peak load, not 7.5kW flat.

My Recommendation: Stick with 20kVA, but assume an 8kW peak load to give yourself some breathing room.

4. Buying Panels from China — Is It Worth It?

Buying directly from a manufacturer in China can be cost-effective — but only if you know what you’re getting. Risks include:

• Unverified output ratings (e.g., that 720W panel may realistically perform closer to 600W).
• Shipping and import fees could offset the savings.
• Warranty and after-sales support may be difficult to claim internationally.

My Recommendation: Unless you’re getting a trusted, proven brand like Jinko, Trina, or Longi — I’d suggest buying locally or from a reputable distributor to ensure warranty coverage and proven output performance. Those brands are even available locally in Nigeria here

Final Setup Recommendation Summary:

• Solar Panels: 21 × 615W Jinko panels (12.9kW total) or more if u have the space and funds (trina longi etc are equally good brands)
• Inverter: 20kVA (19kW) — sufficient for your setup
• Battery Backup: 10-15kWh LiFePO4 battery — ensures stability during cloud cover or short outages such as rainfall
• Peak Load: Plan for 8kW to account for other appliances running alongside your oven
• Source: Stick with proven, mainstream panels — direct-from-China deals are risky unless it’s a trusted brand
Hello,
As an offshoot of our earlier discussion, I'd like to get your input on a choice I'm about to make. I'm trying to achieve the most with lean resources
I'm seeking to support a maximum hourly load of 8kw (p.s this is inclusive of surge power) during peak sunlight and I'm looking at the configuration below:
15 pcs of 720w jinko panels
1 15kwh lithium battery
1 10kva inverter.

I have the following questions:
1. Does this seem feasible?
2. Would you recommend the hybrid inverter or the regular one with a separate charge controller (judging by the industrial machine load that will be carried by the system)
3. If you suggest having separate charge controllers, how many would be needed for this system?
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Blackbelly(m): 11:25pm On Mar 18, 2025
GloryJoyeux:
Hello,

I appreciate the trust — let’s dive into this setup!

1. Battery Backup — 5kWh is Too Small

While you want to rely mainly on solar panels, a 5kWh battery won’t cut it for this setup — here’s why:

• Cloud cover is the real issue, not rain. Even a brief moment of thick cloud cover can drastically drop solar output. When that happens, your inverter pulls from the battery to keep the load running. With only 5kWh available, the battery’s Battery Management System (BMS) will likely hit its discharge limit, causing a shutdown to protect itself.
• Cloud cover can last longer than you think. Sometimes, it lingers for an hour or more — even in dry season, where heat itself reduces solar efficiency due to the temperature coefficient (solar panels lose efficiency as they get hotter).
• Your battery should match peak load capacity, even if you don’t plan to rely on it often. This ensures uninterrupted power when solar drops momentarily.

Scenario to consider:
If it rains all day, or you lose grid power, will you shut down operations entirely? Likely not. A generator is a fallback, but you can’t assume employees won’t mistakenly run solar-only during that downtime — a larger battery prevents sudden shutdowns.

My Recommendation: Go for a minimum 10-15kWh battery setup to handle peak loads for at least 1-2 hours if solar yield drops.

2. Solar Panel Choice — Stick with Proven Brands

21 panels of 720W each sounds powerful — but be cautious. There’s a reason 720W panels aren’t mainstream yet. I strongly recommend Jinko 615W panels — they’re proven, reliable, and widely tested in real-world conditions.

Let’s compare output:

• 21 × 720W = 15.1kW (on paper)
• 21 × 615W = 12.9kW (Jinko)

However, real-world output is different from STC ratings:

• 15.1kW setup? Realistically expect a base of 12kW peak — and even that might last only an hour on a good day. Average yield will likely be around 9kWh in rainy/cloudy conditions.
• 12.9kW Jinko setup? You’ll likely still get a reliable 9-10kWh average with better stability and longevity. Trust on this

My Recommendation: Stick with proven, high-efficiency panels like Jinko 615W for reliability and predictable output.

3. Inverter Size — 20kVA is Sufficient

Your 20kVA inverter (roughly 19kW output) is perfectly sized for your setup — it can handle your 7.5kW oven plus other smaller appliances running simultaneously.

However, let’s rethink your peak load:

• Your oven is 7.5kW, but you’ll likely have lights, fans, and other appliances running too — realistically, you’re looking at an 8kW peak load, not 7.5kW flat.

My Recommendation: Stick with 20kVA, but assume an 8kW peak load to give yourself some breathing room.

4. Buying Panels from China — Is It Worth It?

Buying directly from a manufacturer in China can be cost-effective — but only if you know what you’re getting. Risks include:

• Unverified output ratings (e.g., that 720W panel may realistically perform closer to 600W).
• Shipping and import fees could offset the savings.
• Warranty and after-sales support may be difficult to claim internationally.

My Recommendation: Unless you’re getting a trusted, proven brand like Jinko, Trina, or Longi — I’d suggest buying locally or from a reputable distributor to ensure warranty coverage and proven output performance. Those brands are even available locally in Nigeria here

Final Setup Recommendation Summary:

• Solar Panels: 21 × 615W Jinko panels (12.9kW total) or more if u have the space and funds (trina longi etc are equally good brands)
• Inverter: 20kVA (19kW) — sufficient for your setup
• Battery Backup: 10-15kWh LiFePO4 battery — ensures stability during cloud cover or short outages such as rainfall
• Peak Load: Plan for 8kW to account for other appliances running alongside your oven
• Source: Stick with proven, mainstream panels — direct-from-China deals are risky unless it’s a trusted brand
I can't appreciate you enough for the detailed response. I was not wrong to turn to this forum for some answers!
Regarding the brand, I've been very much concerned about getting a product that has good reviews from our technicians and users and that informed my choice for jinko product. I had scanned through several online stores for the 720w/730w jinko product and I was surprised to see prices that are too good to be true. The current trend of deceptive advertising and sales was another factor that inspired my interest in importing directly from the parent company.
Thanks once again for your very valuable input.
I'll update this post once I successfully finish this project.
Many thanks 🙏
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Blackbelly(m): 10:07pm On Mar 18, 2025
maklelemakukula:
Thank you chief. Have you used them personally ? Are they reliable ?
Yea, I've used Hugo express for a little over 3 years and kreater for just about a year. Haven't had issues apart from occasional unavoidable shipping delays
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Blackbelly(m): 9:19pm On Mar 18, 2025
maklelemakukula:
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I haven't gotten oo. No response from the thread yet
Use kreater logistics or Hugo express; you can search for their pages on Instagram. The sea shipping will be calculated based on the cubic meter-cbm of the cargo (length x width x height). 1 cubic meter is currently between 400-450k with most shipping companies.
Hope this helps
Satellite TV TechnologyRe: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Blackbelly(m): 9:11pm On Mar 18, 2025
GloryJoyeux:
Hello,

I don’t have much time to type, but I’ll explain this as best as I can.

Inverter and Battery Capacity

• A 7.5kW inverter is sufficient.
• A 15kWh LiFePO4 battery is also good enough.

Solar Panels

However, the current 6,755W solar panel setup is too small for your daytime loads — especially when you factor in that this rating is based on Standard Test Conditions (STC), which you rarely achieve in real-world conditions.

• You’ll likely get about 3 hours of effective sunlight per day.
• 3 hours × 6,500W = 19.5kWh of daily energy production.

When you account for inverter conversion losses and the rainy season, this setup becomes inadequate.

From my experience, I recommend a minimum of 10kW worth of solar panels. This ensures your battery charges fully while still supporting your daytime loads reliably.

Load Management

Managing your load is critical to avoid overloading your system. I suggest:

• 1,500W max constant running load at any time.
• Higher loads (4-5kW) for a maximum of 20 to 40 minutes.
• Induction peak loads (e.g., motor startups) can hit 7.6kW for only 3 to 5 seconds — plan for that.

Specific load recommendations:

• Don’t run 3 water heaters at once.
• Don’t use water heaters while ironing.
• Limit your 1.5HP air conditioner to 4 hours at night.

Tip: Water heaters and irons have thermostats — they’ll turn off once the desired temperature is reached (e.g., a water heater switches off after 15 minutes). Turn off the switch after that to save power. The same applies to fridges and freezers.

Backup Calculation

If you still plan to rely on the grid — especially with the cost implications of Band A — you can avoid increasing your solar panels.

Here’s a quick formula to calculate backup time:

(Battery capacity in watt-hours) ÷ (Desired backup hours) - Inverter load (100W)

For example:

• A 15,000Wh battery and 10 hours backup:
(15,000Wh ÷ 10) = 1,500W/hour
Subtract 100W for inverter load:
1,400W/hour available for your devices.

If you’re okay relying on the grid when available, you don’t need to expand your solar panels. But if you want to reduce grid dependence, increasing the panel capacity to 10kW is the way to go.
I've been following your submissions on this thread and I see that you have a wealth of knowledge in this area. I need your input on some choices I'm about to make.
I want to install solar power for commercial purpose. I want to rely on powering my appliances from the panels instead of batteries. The main equipment is a 7.5kw industrial oven which we use and hour a day. All other appliances fall under 5kw and our plan is to not exceed cumulative of 7.5kw at any given point in time. I've recently been tilting towards purchasing 21pcs of 720w solar, 20kva inverter and 5kwh battery (as backup for small loads during late hours). I'm thinking of purchasing the panels directly from the manufacturer in china (still thinking if this is a cost effective solution). Can you advise me?
Thanks
PoliticsRe: APC Accused Of Planning To Rig Edo Election by Blackbelly(m): 6:34am On Sep 07, 2024
Everyone knows that the silence of the APC in Edo state during this election nisnan indication that they're planning something "hooge". PDP need to be up and doing to prevent a repeat of the 2023 general elections
TravelRe: How Do I Send Money To The Uk by Blackbelly(m): 4:47am On Aug 01, 2024
Auskyd:
Hi guys,

Just wanted to give everyone a heads-up on one fellow here with the moniker "Abudat" that claims to help with payments and sells currencies.

Please avoid him, and ensure you don't send any money to his palmpay account for anything. He's an up and coming hungry scammer wannabe😂😂.

Because of 14K this guy was supposed to refund me, he has been radio silent on NL, and no longer replies my texts unless I text him with another number.

I just dey drop update so someone else doesn't feed him tomorrow. 14k will always be change for me by God's grace. Abudat, I hope you eat well today.
Thanks for this info. I almost contacted him before I saw your message
Foreign AffairsRe: Iran Vow Not To Attack Israel Again, After Last Night Isreal Airstrikes In Iran by Blackbelly(m): 12:31pm On Apr 19, 2024
wink
PoliticsRe: Edo State Impeachment| The Grands On Which Shaibu Was Impeached by Blackbelly(m): 2:46pm On Apr 08, 2024
It's been a long time coming. The stakes were really not in his favor
Christianity EtcRe: Witchcraft Wickedness Proliferation In Western World As Africa Pleases GOD More by Blackbelly(m): 9:18pm On Apr 07, 2024
A
PoliticsRe: I’m Not Leaving Labour Party, Obi Replies NLC by Blackbelly(m): 6:38pm On Apr 07, 2024
:-a
PoliticsRe: Obaseki Lauds Olayiwola’s Commitment To Upholding Justice by Blackbelly(m): 6:18pm On Apr 07, 2024
Man like Afolabi! Your deeds speak for you.
Happy birthday sir
EducationRe: This Is Why They Always Tell Us To Read Instructions Before Starting Exam by Blackbelly(m): 6:15pm On Apr 07, 2024
Most of the students will fail in flying colors 😂😂😂
AgricultureRe: Should I Take This Offer? by Blackbelly(m): 6:13pm On Apr 07, 2024
There's very little information you provided in your post and as such, we may not have a full picture to give you good counsel.
Have you had any experience in doing this business before seeking out this loan?
If yes, how well have you managed the risks and how certain are you about your ability to repay that amount every Monday?
Have you inquired about the interest rate and loan obligations?
Do you have a plan on how to manage the associated risks with the business?
These are some questions you have to answer to make an informed decision
FashionRe: Igbos Elevate 'Isi-agu' To The Next Level - Pictures by Blackbelly(m): 5:19pm On Apr 07, 2024
In fairness, the isiagu is a very beautiful attire.
EventsRe: Fear Of EFCC: Man Seen Handing Bride Money Instead Of Spraying At Wedding by Blackbelly(m): 3:24pm On Apr 07, 2024
I think this will become a norm in no time.
PoliticsRe: Please advise my elder brother by Blackbelly(m): 3:18pm On Apr 07, 2024
Juliusganduje:
At 50, he is gone for good.
Even if he's 70, so long as he's family, there'll always be a sliver of hope!
PoliticsRe: Please advise my elder brother by Blackbelly(m): 3:06pm On Apr 07, 2024
OP I can't even imagine how disturbed you must be. Watching a beloved sibling sliding downwards in life is never a pleasant experience. There are a plethora of reasons that may have resulted in his lack luster attitude towards life. I think one way to help him is to allow him face the reality of the hardship that laziness brings. Handouts from family members might need to stop for this to dawn on him. In all, keep praying for him for God to be merciful to him and deliver him from whatever shackles might have held him bound.
Cheers!
FamilyRe: I Almost Divorce My Husband by Blackbelly(m): 1:33pm On Apr 07, 2024
I have reservations about the veracity of this story, howbeit, one of the pillars of a successful marriage is trust. If both partners cannot have implicit trust for each other, then there will always be an opening for marital problems
Christianity EtcRe: Please Forgive Me :what Would You Do If Your Were In Nathaniel Bassey's Shoe by Blackbelly(m): 12:57pm On Apr 07, 2024
I would forgive them and hold no grudges, but still allow the law take it's course so that people understand that there is consequence for making unfounded remarks against persons on the Internet. Afterall, it's not as if they're going to be sentenced to death, it's just 'small' time they'll spend in a correctional facility cheesy
PoliticsRe: Governor Sanwo-olu’s Daughter, Modupe Oreoluwa Weds Oladele Johnson (Photos) by Blackbelly(m): 12:51pm On Apr 07, 2024
News like this make one realize that despite how the media portrays some politicians as having 'eternal' beefs, their common interests will always bring them together.
CrimeRe: How I Lost My First Million Naira Due To Peer Pressure by Blackbelly(m): 12:43pm On Apr 07, 2024
First of all, permit me to laugh a lil bit 😂.
On a more serious note, don't feel too bad about it. There's going to be more opportunities in the future. Many have lost more due to pressure from friends and family. I'm an advocate of sticking with your convictions rather than joining the band wagon.
Instead of keeping your money idle in the bank, I believe it's more prudent investing in something that'll keep your money flowing. Remember, stagnant water doesnt have much benefit
EducationRe: Masturbation Notice At The University Of Waterloo, Toronto by Blackbelly(m): 12:37pm On Apr 07, 2024
"Vigorously" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Technology MarketRe: This Thread Is Only For Aliexpress Shopper by Blackbelly(m): 8:33am On Jul 28, 2022
Good day folks, is there any virtual card still working?
Business To BusinessRe: Liquid Silicone Rubber by Blackbelly(op): 10:44pm On Jun 06, 2022
themmy07:
How much is one plastic?
There are different liquid silicone products available, you could schedule a call so we can discuss the option that best suit your application.
Thanks �
CrimeRe: Reason Why I Can Never Forgive My Brother For Giving Me A Facial Scar by Blackbelly(m):
OP I understand how you must feel. This is indeed very hurtful. I'm quite sure he hates himself whenever he sees what he did to you. Siblings squabble occasionally, must they learn to live past their differences. Never say never to forgiveness. You may be a muslim, but permit me to quote Jesus Christ when one of his disciples asked him how many times must he forgive his brother when his brother offends him. His response was 70 times 7.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Pandemonium At Abuja Airport As Passengers Destroy Max Air Counters, Gadgets Ove by Blackbelly(m): 7:19pm On Apr 15, 2022
Why is it that untill there is break down of law and order, Nigerians seldomly do the proper thing. At least they will think twice before they delay flights next time

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