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Ekrenji:
It is nt the same. Mohammed just got things mixed up, he had tot that Moses, David and Jesus were actually given books so he tot he was given a book called the Quran too.
Jesus never claimed to have been given any book, he said he came to preach the good news (gospel). Gospel is not book

Muhammad didn't know that... Waraqa didn't teach that before he died.

Laugh wan finishi me for here

AntiChristian:
Not Uthman but Abu Bakr. See error 404!



It was already called a Book before taking the form of a Book! So a Book is what can be written and read!

He was right Uthman was the one who standardised the Quran ( and all this years we were told Allah gave it to Muhammed after writing it in heaven)

After standardising he burnt the one he felt wasn't Quran.. imagine Muslim was the first person to burn QURAN ( WORD OF ALLAH O)


Today we have more than 8 Qur'ans

Popular ones Hafs and warsh

With different readings and meaning

Gottchaaaa

Ekrenji:
Becos Muhammed never made such a claim, even at the time of revealing the Quran, he said people of the gospel should judge by what is revealed therein

“And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allāh has revealed therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allāh has revealed - then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient.” Sura 5:47

Then we judged by what is written in the Gospel and found out that Muhammed is a liar and manipulator ...so we obey Aallah and rejected him...


Then all he'll broke loose he showed that he was a false prophet .... and he died as it was said by Allah that if he fabricate lies he will die by blood

Yes it happened


You can't denigrate the Messiah and not receive judgement

IslamVIRGlNS:
Here is what Allah says

Surah 10:64

For them are glad tidings in this world and in the Hereafter. The words of Allah shall not change. That is the supreme triumph.


Surah 6:34

And certainly were messengers denied before you, but they were patient over [the effects of] denial, and they were harmed until Our victory came to them. And none can alter the words of Allah . And there has certainly come to you some information about the [previous] messengers.


Surah 18:27

And recite (and teach) what has been revealed to thee of the Book of thy Lord: none can change His Words,


So, if we agree that the prophets preceding Muhammad (PBUH) were given revelation by Allah (as Maida 5:68-69 said), and since these passages, many times over, say very clearly that no one can change Allah’s Words, how then can one believe that the words of Taurat, Zabur and Injil (i.e. al kitab = the Bible) was corrupted or changed by men? It would require a denial of the Qur’an itself to believe that the Bible has been corrupted or changed.

As a matter of fact, this idea of judging various kinds of revelation from God as better or worse than others, though widely believed, is not supported in the Qur’an.




This is what the hadiths and sunnah say on this topic. Notice how the following hadiths affirm the existence and use of the Taurat and Injil in the time of the Prophet Muhammad



“Khadija [his wife] then accompanied him [The Prophet – PBUH] to her cousin Waraqa …, who, during the PreIslamic Period became a Christian and used to write the writing with Hebrew letters. He would write from the Gospel in Hebrew as much as Allah wished him to write.”


Al-Bukhari Vol 1, Book 1, No 3

Narrated Abu Huraira: ..The people of the Scripture used to read the Torah in Hebrew and explain it to the Muslims in Arabic. Then Allah’s Apostle said, “Do not believe the people of the Scripture, and do not disbelieve them, but say, ‘We believe in Allah and whatever has been revealed…’


Al-Bukhari Vol 9, Book 93, No. 632

The Jews came to Allah’s Apostle and told him that a man and a woman from amongst them had committed illegal sexual intercourse. Allah’s Apostle said to them, “What do you find in the Torah about the legal punishment of Ar-Rajm (stoning)?” They replied, “(But) we announce their crime and lash them.” Abdullah bin Salam said, “You are telling a lie; Torah contains the order of Rajm.” … the Verse of Rajm was written there. They said, “Muhammad has told the truth; the Torah has the Verse of Rajm.

Habibi

May the good Lord bless you.

They didn't know we are nit playing

They thought it was before we don't read Qurans or hadith or tasfir

Allaah didn't know there will be Internet


Glory to YASUA AL MASSIH

AntiChristian:
It's simple an unwritten book revealed to Jesus which he preached to the children of Israel.

It was never written during the lifetime of Jesus. His disciples may have written some parts of what he preached and this was circulated and later got corrupted by addition of what they didn't witness themselves.

That is not what the Quran says...it says it was between his hands according to Quran


Why are you committing shirk?
Astagrafullahi

AntiChristian:
Your assumption not from Allah!

Where did Allah say Injeel can't be changed? Injeel was specifically for the children of Israel.

You're totally wrong!

Shoe us from the Quran where it saays that the Gospel was corrupted changed?

Was it in Arabia that now affected everybody?

It was the bible that was to confirm what Muhammad was saying ( according to Arabu level recitation)

The Bible was very much around during the time of Muhammad, so when was it corrupted? So if I Misuote the Quran to you does that mean I have corrupted the whole of Quran for everybody?

Habibi think

Balerion:
The Injil was revealed to Isa (Jesus) not a book of account by Matthew and Mark

Can you show me from the Quran about this claim?What is the Injeel?

How can the injeeel be lost when it was written in your Quran that Muhammed should go to the christains if he is in doubt.. which means the tawrah gospel where available...or are you wiser than Allah?

When was this injeel lost ? Is it in arabic or Europe?
Who lost it?

I know you are educated ask questions

AntiChristian:
Short, Concise and direct!

Lovely response!

The Qur'an never mentioned "Bible" but Injeel/Torah/Zabur.

Bisimi l-abi wa l -ibni wa r Ruhi l-Qudus

All those things mentioned above are what?

The tawrah is not found in the Arabu level recitation (Quran)?

The Zabur( psalms ) are not found in the Qur'an?

The Injeel ( gospel is not found in the Quran?


What in hell is found in the Quran( Arabu level recitation)?


Think Habibi think.
How can a complete book not be complete
How can what it claims be lies
How can all the accusations it levied against christains be lies

I pray Ruh Al -Qudus open your eyes to the Salvation of Yasua Al massih

Balerion:
The Bible is not the Injil, The Bible was written and compiled by men.

Habibi you are right

So with your assertion and claim because it was written and compiled by men it is NOT THE WORD OF GOD.

Now let me ask you who wrote the Quran? Who compiled the Quran? Who standardised the Quran?

Please becareful of your reply so that it does not tally with your assertion above?

Shukran

This is interesting

Every false prophet must mention Jesus Christ

Keeping tabs on him


I will comment later

Pakute:
The New York Times Editorial Board has issued a stark warning about the deepening erosion of democratic norms in the United States under President Donald Trump, stating that no previous American president has wielded power in the manner he currently does.

In an editorial titled “Are We Losing Our Democracy?”, the board accused Trump of repeatedly acting “in defiance of the law”, warning that the country has moved closer to authoritarian tendencies.

The publication listed 12 markers of democratic erosion, each backed by detailed analysis, noting that several of these red flags have already become visible in the American political landscape.

While stressing that the United States is not yet comparable to Russia or China, the board cautioned that democratic backsliding often accelerates once it begins.

“Our country is still not close to being a true autocracy, in the mold of Russia or China. But once countries begin taking steps away from democracy, the march often continues. We offer these 12 markers as a warning of how much Americans have already lost and how much more we still could lose,” the editorial read.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/10/31/opinion/trump-autocracy-democracy-report.html

he learnt it from mohamed .... you should be happy

afterall we are all born muslim



the coming month will expose your jihadi program

AntiChristian:
You should be aware that some liars have fabricated Hadiths about the Mahdi, and others have even claimed to be he, or that he belongs to a group other than Ahl As-Sunnah wal-Jama`ah. Some of these "false Mahdis" have tried to deceive the slaves of Allah for some worldly gain and to distort the picture of Islam. Some have started movements and revolutions and gathered those people and supporters whom they were able to deceive. Then they were destroyed, and their lies and falsehood were exposed. None of this affects the belief of Ahl As-Sunnah wal-Jama`ah in the Mahdi, upon whom be peace, and that he will undoubtedly appear and rule the earth in accordance with Islamic Shari`ah.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/1252/is-the-mahdi-real

Oh so you feel pain

Now you know how we feel when we are told that The best of mankind ( Jesus the sinless and undead ) spoke about Muhammad


Yes I believe this guy is the person Muhammad talked about

I love this love triangle.
Werey lafi wo werey

beardedboy:
You do realise you just committee a fallacy of exact quote?

So everything must be mentioned verbatim in the Qur'an before you can derive meaning and understanding?

So what is the essence of the brain God gave you if you can't use it to study the wisdom behind the words of God and derive implicit meanings?

You just expose your own fallacy.

It is Claimed that Quran is the complete manual of faith by Allah to Muhammad and shahaabas and mankind.

Remember I am not the one making the claim

Now the question arise is birthday haram or halal

Where do we go since it affected faith ? QURAN OF COURSE


now we asked you alfa that have brain to show us in the Quran kareem where it is said that birthdays are haraam or halal

In your response you didn't show us from the Almighty Quran rather you resort to insults and empty words from now seen empty brain 🧠

Now let me ask you again now this time around where is it in the Quran that birthday 🎂 are haram or halal?

If the Quran is silent about it that means it is clueless based on the claim that it is the perfect manual of faith

Awaiting your reply

Bisi l-abi , wal-ibni. wa r-Ruhi- l-Qudus

Why is it that no Muslim answers questions



Where are all your hadiths and Quran kareem


Does it mean you lots are scared or no answer?

All the claim of years ago is now falling like a pack of cards


We still have the issue of Allah praying 🙏 to Muhammad

That will be an expose

Stay tuned

The coming months will be amazing to the glory of the Ruh Al Qudus

Is this sharia or jungle justice ...because I know that area is dominated by Muslims



But either both is wrong

beardedboy:
Indeed, this world is only for work and worship. The full reward is in the hereafter.

Allah says in suratul sharh [verses7-8] (translation of the meaning:
So when you have finished (your occupation), devote yourself for Allâh’s worship.
And to your Lord (Alone) turn (all your) intentions and hopes.

Also, the wailing of wailers and hating of haters should never deter a believer from following the path of jannah. They are only a distraction that will fade away. Oh believer, face your Lord and turn a deaf hear to the wailing disbelievers.

May Allah help us all to achieve jannatul firdaws. Aamen.

If you die now... according to the Quran where will you be? He'll or heaven?

The Quran said hell And there awaiting judgement

Think and ask questions

Antlisiam:
You should also strike until end

Quran 47:4
Quran 2:190
Quran 2:193

By next month or so I will invite all Muslims I know and the ones you know to tell us

1. Who , when and where was the bible corrupted according to the Quran.

2.where was Did Jesus mentioned Muhammed in bible according to the Quran

3. We will discuss scientifically, historically and geographically ( not emotionally, blind faith)if Father Abraham ever journeyed to Arabia

4.this is my favourite ...the meccan side of the story.

5. Who wrote the Quran?

6.why did Allah use isa instead of yasua. Does that means Allah jinn Muhammad dosent understand linguistics

According to Al Quran kareem all Muslims when they died will be in hell awaiting judgement.


Think of that first


That means Allah doesn't even know you.

And subsequently you will need a christain or a jew as substitution before you can get to heaven.

AntiChristian:
Show us where Jesus celebrated his manger 1st birthday - 33rd birthday on the cross in the Bible?

No be in birthday party John the baptist was beheaded?

Salvation in Jesus that can't save himself!

You can pick a create a topic on this and invite me and by the power of Ruh Al Qudus you will see the salvation of Yasua Al massih bringing you to Yahweh.


This topic is on Birthday 🎂

Where in the Quran does it says birthday is haram or halal?



Hope you know everyone is watching how scared you are .
Tekbil
Yasua AKBAR

And so the killings begin


They will 1st terrorise the opponents

Then after sometimes face those who shielded them


Then they will establish there caliphate


Those 2 mentioned above are useful idiots


SW SE SS take note

AntiChristian:
Yes, i am dodging the question, can you now answer me?
Where is Gambling in the Bible? Even Tithes, Seed sowing and Offering as it is done in your churches today?

The chicken is running 🏃 away Anokulumlahi


So you don't have an answer so the complete Quran is now incomplete? So the Quran Allaah are myopic to birthdays or Muhammad died before the jinns brought the verse? So basically the 7,744 words of the Arabu level lies don't know anything about birthday

Iro labi didn't know the Internet will expose him

I pray that whoever you are you will ask God to reveal himself to you , his salvation in Jesus Christ the judge of the living (you and i)and the dead( Muhammad and others)


So back to the question where in the Quran does it says birthday is wrong?
If the Quran is silent that means it is incomplete, lies and contradiction

He knows that is the result which will expose the phenomenon they placed on the Arabu level recitation as lies

AntiChristian:
You should try and show show us how Gambling is forbidden in the Bible first!

Everyone sees how you are dodging the questions regarding your incomplete Quran which contains only 7,744 words ( depending on which of the Quran harfs warsh and 8 other Qurans)

Thie is my Question

Since the Quraan is complete manual of character as pointed out by Allah , and if we don't get that in the Quran it means it has no clue which shows the lies of Allah and Quran ...and which shows that Muhammad is the man behind Allah.

Don't divert don't run away like a chicken 🐔
ALFAA GANUSI Where in the Quran does it says birthdays are Haram?



as for the bible injunction on gambling is there

AntiChristian:
This is similar to saying show me where Gambling is forbidden in the Bible! The question is if Birthdays was prescribed in the Qur'an as a form of worship! Allah says: And I (Allah) created not the jinns and humans except they should worship Me (Alone).

So is birthdays a form of worship in Islam? No!

The forms of worship are clear!

Who created birthdays celebrations even your Christmas? Pagans!

As usual you ended up saying nothing but clutching to everything in your brain 🧠 and using diversion tactics .

Now Alfa listen carefully to my question again


Where in the Quran does it says birthdays are haram? Since the Quraan talks about everything and if the Quraan is silent( dosent have a clue ) simply means it is insufficient.



Any Muslim in the house


And concerning paganism I can list 5 things that are paganism in Islam still practised today, mind you Islam is a paganism

AntiChristian:
Celebrating birthdays (personal birthdays, Mawlid, Christmas, etc) is a pagan practice and is not permitted in Islam no matter how it's painted. Some may say they will cook/provide for the needy or give money to the widows, or perform certain form of worship, etc. You have over 350 days in a year to worship Allah in the established ways He prescribed through the last Prophet of Islam (salallahu alayhi wasalam)! Anything beyond this type of worship is an innovation which would be rejected!

And its not our business if Saudi Arabia celebrates birthdays or not! Our concern is if its established to celebrate it or not!

Moreso, I see no reason personally celebrating a decrease in lifespan. If you're to live for 60 years and you're already 50, will you'll keep celebrating 51, 52, ....59....?

Some families even celebrate posthumous birthdays for the dead!

Heatseaker
Obiedun

Is the Quran the authentic authority.

Please show us in the Quran where it says birthday is haraam?

lo aand behold i saw a wolf in sheeps clothing
and it deceives nations wuth peaace but when it settled it devour the land .

Can you return the money and fane it brought you?

i don come again today ...

the word Nikah is not marriage but sexual intercourse ...in simple terms to have sex

no where in the Quran did it mention maarriage instead it mentioned Nikaah ..to have sex ..now add the word mutah(love-vendor, runs, olosho,contract sex) all is allowed in islam


i am loving this arabic language in studying islam

You see to be a true Muslim you must be a great liar.

Islam is based on lies and accusations and I have asked Muslims that says the bible was corrupted...who corrupted it , when and how..was it in obscure mecca or all over Europe and Middle Eaast?

But when you look at the Quran( which simply means to recite whaatever) you see myriad of contradictions , lies, errors, all the accusations it levied against the other better religion is now 200% guilty of.

A book filled with so much hate and copy and paste.


Check out my topic on NL ; who write the Quran?