₦airaland Forum

mrvitalis:
PDP would clearly have won akwa Ibom governorship elections fair square.. .. But why rig?
Maybe because corruption runs in PDP DNA and they don't even know when to stop...
. If u are going to rig at least be smart about it.... But no not PDP

My brother you have said it all. There was no need to Rig PDP would have still won fair and square but whosai pdp must rig.

Igbo Shekau on the loose.

ZUBY77:
Read my previous post on this thread.
I dont really care if Buhari closes the Church.
I dont even care if every church in Nigeria is shut down.

My point was that it is very difficult to believe anything from Akande, Adesina, Shehu Garba and the rest of the paid months.
Their job is to Lie.

And what is your JOB? Spreading false information!

Many of them are on Naira land

I think a lot of APC big wigs will soon be shocked when d anti corruption search light beams on them.

In Lagos when I was in pry3 and went to pickup my lil sis from school she was in nursery2.

There was this compound that had many dogs near her school. I used to pick up stones that I will use to stone them through the gate bars. So any time they saw me they will start barking.

On this day after picking her on the way home. As usual I had my stones to stone them. They started barking but I was used to that I approached without any fear then the unthinkable happened. Somehow one of the dogs managed to come out then another one and started coming towards me and my lil sis. There was a gutter across the road with a fence behind the gutter. How I managed to jump across the gutter with my lil sis still baffels me today. The dogs after waiting for sometime left.

After that day I never took that road again.

MzNelly:
Thank you.

You're welcome

MzNelly:
I honestly love, adore and respect the Witnesses for their deep research of the scriptures. I also love the way you defend your faith. It speaks a lot.
I love their morals and everything they stand for. I hold nothing against them.

But seriously, this belief of them being the "truth", "God's organization", "God's channel"(in spite of their mistakes) and the only ones that God will save at Armageddon is really sickening.

Also the hidden sexual abuse cases and the hypocrisy in the use of blood is just too much.

Listen, believe in whatever rocks your boat. Hold it close to your heart, you hear?
Because trust me, you do not want to find yourself in my shoes---more confused and hurt than I have ever been in my life.

Thanks.

I've been there but this scripture helped me
Rom 3:3,4

ReubenAbati:
God is not a robot.
His actions are not and can never be based on human logic. But he wrote a book in a logic that could be easily understood.

So whatever contradictions in the bible will always be refuted by this crazy immoral reasoning?

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1Cor 2:14

@MzNelly what you quoted earlier about 1925 was part of the reason for the Wt Jan 1,2013.

Jehovah's Witnesses as you know always strive to stick to Bible in their worship and in their way of life.

There are many cases of individuals who were once drug addicts, prostitues, thieves murderers drunkards violent etc whose encounter with the witnesses changed their lives.

This change couldn't just happen by mans power.

Besides there are many reports of native doctors , one of which I personally witnessed trying to use charms against witnesses but it failed and instead backfired.

Some things have to be refined yes but in Gods due time.

MzNelly:
If Holy Spirit directs the organization, why are incorrect doctrine introduced that later require being changed?

Can we now both agree on one thing-They are not being led by Holy Spirit?

You have to consider some thing's before you conclude that they are not being led by Holy Spirit.

I'll explain

MzNelly:
My point is: The Faithful and Discreet Slave fondly calls themselves "God's channel", under the inspiration of God's Holy Spirit. However, it is noteworthy that they've made a number of significant errors.

Since its 1879 inception, Watchtower has preached "the End" is soon, originally predicting it would occur in 1914 and then 1925. This claim was subsequently adjusted to say the End will be very shortly, culminating in billions of humans being killed at God's war of Armageddon.

Can Jehovah be using them in spite of all these, or is the "light" just "getting brighter?"

HAVE JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES GIVEN INCORRECT DATES FOR THE END?
Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come. Like Jesus’ first-century disciples, we have sometimes looked forward to the fulfillment of prophecy ahead of God’s timetable. (Luke 19:11; Acts 1:6; 2 Thessalonians 2:1, 2) We agree with the sentiment of longtime Witness A. H. Macmillan, who said: “I learned that we should admit our mistakes and continue searching God’s Word for more enlightenment.”
Why, then, do we continue to highlight the nearness of the end? Because we take seriously Jesus’ words: “Keep looking, keep awake.” The alternative, to be found “sleeping” by Jesus, would prevent us from gaining his favor. (Mark 13:33, 36) Why?
Consider this example: A lookout in a fire tower might see what he thinks is a wisp of smoke on the horizon and sound what proves to be a false alarm. Later, though, his alertness could save lives.
Likewise, we have had some wrong expectations about the end. But we are more concerned with obeying Jesus and saving lives than with avoiding criticism. Jesus’ command to “give a thorough witness” compels us to warn others about the end.—Acts 10:42.
We believe that even more important than focusing on when the end will come, we must be confident that it will come, and we must act accordingly. We take seriously the words of Habakkuk 2:3, which says: “Even if [the end] should delay [compared to what you thought], keep in expectation of it; for it will without fail come true. It will not be late.”

Watchtower Jan 1, 2013

Yes the Jehovah's Witness have had wrong expectations and have admitted it.

MzNelly:
My point is: The Faithful and Discreet Slave fondly calls themselves "God's channel", under the inspiration of God's Holy Spirit. However, it is noteworthy that they've made a number of significant errors.

Since its 1879 inception, Watchtower has preached "the End" is soon, originally predicting it would occur in 1914 and then 1925. This claim was subsequently adjusted to say the End will be very shortly, culminating in billions of humans being killed at God's war of Armageddon.

Can Jehovah be using them in spite of all these, or is the "light" just "getting brighter?"

But you do agree that despite the imperfections of some men in the past God still used them.
Give me a few minutes to address d Watchtower issues

MzNelly:
So they made human errors.

At least Moses didn't make the Israelites believe they would one day be free from Pharoah's ostracization, as said by God, and then later on, his words didn't come to fulfillment, right?

Now I'm d one to ask And your point is?

MzNelly:
What errors did these men make? Did they falsely prophesy?

Moses made the Israelites believe that he and Aaron (Not God) provided the water they drank from the rock.

What will you call that?

David sent a man to his death to cover up his adultery.

Peter behaved hypocritically when Jews visited him while he was eating with Gentiles..... In all cases they erred as individuals.

But God was not decieved by their actions

MzNelly:
Your point is-?

Even those chosen by God erred Grievously but God still saw something good in them and kept using them eg Moses, David, Peter etc.
Never let the errors of men appointed by God turn you away from serving Him. That is what Satan wants.

TheDauraMallam:
https://news.vice.com/article/more-than-1000-jehovahs-witnesses-have-been-accused-of-child-sex-abuse-in-australia-and-police-never-knew

https://www.revealnews.org/article/jehovahs-witnesses-use-1st-amendment-to-hide-child-sex-abuse-claims/

A government inquiry underway in Australia has revealed that more than 1,000 members of the Jehovah's Witness Church there have been accused of child sexual abuse since 1950 — yet none of them have ever been reported to the police.

Feast your eyes, people.

Not surprising if 24000 Israelites who literary saw God succumbed to fornication and perished in d wilderness how much more today.

Do Jehovah's witness condone molestation. NO.

TheDauraMallam:
What perspective are you talking about? Is this the junction where you tell me I need the holy spirit to understand the bible?

Or are you now claiming God didnt send a lying spirit as opposed in 1 Kings 22:22?


Concerning this



Has this ever occurred to you that the above betrays the logic of a perfect and omnipresent biblical god?

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That is where you get it wrong.

God is not a robot.
His actions are not and can never be based on human logic.

For example Read Ezekiel 33:13-16 from a human standpoint you may say why should God say one thing then do another.
But it goes to show His matchless wisdom and sense of Justice.

His standards do not change and cannot be explained by faulty human logic.
That is why His perfection is beyond human comprehension.
GOD NEVER LIES

TheDauraMallam:
If God could lie or be deceived, if he could deceive or act in any sort of unkind way, God would not be omnipotent because this sort of behavior is not worthy of an omnipotent being.

Those who were deceived was because they failed to accept the truth.
Maybe you should re read the paragraph below.

God sends a lying spirit (1 Kings 22:22) - “And the Lord said to him, ‘How?’ And he said, ‘I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ Then He said, ‘You are to entice him and also prevail. Go and do so.'"

The question is, why would the source of your so called moral code send a deceiving spirit to a person? How would you prove false a person who lies and claims God sent a lying spirit into him and that was why he lied.

Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man, that he should lie;…"

1 Samuel 15:29 "And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent (change his mind): for he is not a man, that he should repent (change his mind)."

Why then did he changed his mind about lying?

Reading 1Kings 22:8,12-23 clearly puts the event in proper perspective..

King Ahab had lost Gods favour because of his unrighteousness and was now seeking Gods direction to go out and fight against the Syrians at Ramoth Gillead.
The Prophet first told him what he wanted to hear....that he will succeed vs15 but later prophesied to him the truth which he did not believe anyway and everything Prophet Micaiah said came to pass.

TheDauraMallam:
Does God lie?

No, God cannot and does not lie.

God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent. Numbers 23:19
The Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent. 1 Samuel 15:29
Thou art that God, and thy words be true. 2 Samuel 7:28
Thy word is true from the beginning. Psalm 119:160
In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began. Titus 1:2
It was impossible for God to lie. Hebrews 6:18

Yes, God lies by proxy; He sends prophets or lying spirits to deceive.

Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee. 1 Kings 22:23
Now therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets. 2 Chronicles 18:22
Ah, Lord GOD! surely thou hast greatly deceived this people. Jeremiah 4:10
O Lord, thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived. Jeremiah 20:7
And if a prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the Lord have deceived that prophet. Ezekiel 14:9
For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. 2 Thessalonians 2:11

BINGO

**Sips Orijin while waiting for his cognitive abilities to shut down**

Those who were decieved was because they failed to accept the truth.
2Thesalonian 2:9-12.
As for Jeremiah he thought he could not continue his mission but Gods power overshadowed him and helped him fulfill his commission. Jeremiah felt God decieved him because he thought he was alone. Jer 20:11

GOD DOES NOT LIE

MzNelly:
Lol, anyone who has done deep research knows there's nothing scripturally wrong with birthdays.

The problem with the Witnesses is that they are too over zealous, and want Scriptural backing on everything, even in issues that just needs their own discernment.
The worst part is that they then impose it on others, which is beyond preposterous,

ROM 3:3,4. Says let God be found true even if everyman be found a lair.

When they were told to learn from Lai Mohammed how to be in opposition they didn't agree

Now they just sit and imagine what to say.

Macelliot:
Mumu! You are rejected...
Who needs you?
Niger delta is 10 states...

If you like, agree.. If you don't, go and hug transformer...

Una never get republic una don start to fight....ok

BossAyuk:
I can see from this post that you're deliberately wallowing in sheer ignorance. Like I told you earlier, it makes no sense for PMB to publicly declare his assets without verification from CCB. How will the public confirm the contents of his declaration?? What exactly is the use of the declaration when the General Public can't authenticate his claims?? Answer these questions with an open mind and you'll see why your thread is baseless.

Leave them.... Assuming a man has N2million in his account and declares N10million. The CCB should just accept it like that.

Once his assets are verified it will be published.

Dr. Jonathan was roundly humiliated, stressing that four card readers were brought as he stood waiting and all of them rejected him.

Even card readers wanted change.

You guys should relax o.

Being in opposition is a marathon not a sprint O!.

Its not yet a week and you have opposed every inconsequential thing the new administration has done. Shouting Wolf! Wolf!! Wolf!!! when there is no wolf.

Not all Nigerians are not as gullible as you may believe.

At this rate you will lack credibility when time comes to criticize this administration on more weightier matters.

[quote author=Maximus85 post=34281171][/quote]Only few will understand..... I recognise you.

Read your bible Acts 24:15

Can your power bank be charged with a small generator?

How long will it take to be fully charged with the generator?