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simplycarro:
Which election are you talking about and which election was baba talking about in the book?

The same election OBJs book was talikg about- the 2011 election that Jonathan unfortunately won.

I can easily say unfortunately now because of the way the economy has gone and all the savings that could have been made in those 4 years that are now in all sorts of people personal pockets.

Oga lukmon, how bodi?

i want to order four phones from aliexpress costing a total of six hundred dollars. I want you to deliver it to me in lagos with express shipping.

Give me your exchange rate ATM and the total cost of what I have just said in usd and naira equivalent.

Please this is urgent ooo. God bless.

Good thread.

Whats your current exchange rate to a dollar?

And if I was buying 4 phones from one of your approved sites with a total value of five hundred and forty dollars- give me the total price I would pay for your commission and shipping to Lagos (idollars and naira equivalent).

Please I need this information urgently.

Dealmadam, do you have a bold 5 configured for visafone and how much?

Oh and if you do not have, if I bring one to you can you configure it for visafone?

Bmartt:
Your dell battery will not be more than 3,000 Nigerian Naira

How much for a genuine dell inspiron 1520 battery and an HP mini netbook battery?

Prices for your Bold 5, Bold 6 and Q10.

sucobaba:
Obudu is in cross river...i have your cash but its my first time with you so don't mind the scepticism.

Brother, I've done business with Mavinc4u, you can trust her.... and yes her bold 5s are exactly as described... pristine.

uzoexcel: interesting thread

I agree.

it shouldn't have died so easily.

Good read.

eph12: No vex sir.

lol.....I like your answer to him.

I don't know who put a gun to his head and begged him to comment.

sainty2k3: Even me, I need someing like this pls contact me if any good one is available

Good... now agents and Landlords you have 2 people ooo

make your move

Pls I need a 2 bedroom ( might consider 1 bedroom) flat in yaba/ebute metta/akoka and surrounding areas urgently.

1 year rent.
budget 300-350k

pls agents and landlords shud place their number on this thread and I will give you a call back.

debetmx: I only tried to put the records straight about Victor Banjo and if I overstepped my limits, I tender my unreserved apologies.

It just sucks when a group of people refer derogatorily to some persons just because they come from a particular tribe irrespective of what they did for them.

Just seen this, well done my brother and keep advancing your argument with good points if you still feel you are right. Enjoyable thread so far.

debetmx: Obasanjo never supported biafra. For any reason Yoruba officers had been bypassed during the promotion promo by Aguiyi Ironsi for ibo and ibo speaking Officers. Victor Banjo had sent Wole Soyinka to Obasanjo to seek free passage to Lagos for a fee because there was no way the ill trained and equipped biafra forces could get to Lagos without being crushed but Obasanjo rejected the offer. It's totally condemnable that biafran propagandists, the cantankerous coward and even unborn ibos have accused Banjo of treachery. Victor Banjo at any point never supported secession which he showed in his speech to the Mid-West, words and deeds. Victor Banjo had stayed in the State House with ojukwu but moved out when the cantankerous coward declared secession. ojukwu probably chose Victor Banjo to lead the suicide expedition to Lagos so as to have him (Banjo) killed, which he finally succeeded by accusing of planning a coup. God bless Victor Banjo he took the bullet with his chest buffed out. That is an example of a man died for what he believed in.

Governor Adebayo Adeyinka was pro- Federal and never supported secession and war. Awolowo initially sympathized with the biafrans until the treacherous bastard tried to occupy our land using a Yoruba Officer.

Though you put forward some good points and they clearly add to the discussion, I can't see why your tone is so harsh and insultive. So far this thread has been pretty civil and interesting so I think we should try and keep it that way no matter what side we are on.

This is what happens when old men will not respect themselves and stick to the wives of their youth!

Now OBJ will have some time off and BG will now be the new laughing stock in Yorubaland. Clearly riches and Power are the most unpredictable drugs around, shame on all of them, including the "friend" FFK. No wonder they couldn't stand a disciplined AWO.

taharqa: Reali?? So you mean you went to Ibadan and spoke to 'EVERYBODY in d SW cities' from Ibadan, where they all told you that 'they are all ready for the removal of GEJ'? Abi?...#EWUDAN

If the quality of instruction you received in the English Language was so low and encourages you to read/take everything so literal, I would also like you and your ilk to revisit the words of Comrade Oshiomole and hearken to that patriotic cry.

djon78: I too still have hope in Nigeria, but she must be restructured to favor all her citizens. Many people think GEJ wants to stay after 2015, but it is a lie what GEJ is doing is set the foundation for a new Nigeria through sustainable policies like power reform, Agric revolution, Automobile industry revamp, upgrade of infrastructure and finally a national conference where all the ethnic nationalities gather together in a round table to discuss how our new Nigeria will be which will end with peoples constitution.

May God bless Afenifere, those that are opposing this national conference are people that have been feeding off this nation, they have been unproductive, without contributing anything to Nigerias development. They should better get ready to work and be productive because after this national conference, the lazy, unproductive ones will have no free meals to feed on again rather they will have no other option than to become productive, especially the bloated and lazy political class.

I challenge all of you "believers" in fairy tale stories to show me anywhere in the world, at anytime in world history where a revolutionary constitution was agreed without the presence of strife and conflict. From the Magna Carta to the breakaway of South Sudan, the two ingredients above our always needed to get someone who has power to agree to relinquish power. A smooth 2014 for GEJ will just lead to what OBJ, Abdulsalami and others have done. Our best chance for a true peoples constitution was 1966, but mistakes were made by all parties.Let's stop falling for the same desperate trick over and over again.

People can deceive themselves if they want to... I just returned from Ibadan and its clear that everyone in the main SW cities are ready for the removal of GEJ, the only thing that saddens me is that Yinka Odumakin who I respect so much is still being the mouthpiece of these selfish old men. I know he hates all things Tinubu (and rightly so) but even he needs to realise that even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Anyway the people in SW will continue to speak clearly in the next few months.

ogedanny: Your 18-page letter to President Goodluck Jonathan, which was leaked to the press yesterday, left many mouths agape in utter wonderment. That letter, every patriotic citizen must agree, summarizes Mr Jonathan’s administration in content and character. His regime is a marvel of transgression. In fact, General, many of us – Nigeria’s nobodies who have somehow found space in twitter’s ability to absorb frustrations in 140 characters – have been dubbed ‘children of anger’ by the president’s spokesperson, Reuben Abati. Our sin? We have long told them that this government is empty, that its head means no good for the country, and that its key players stink of corruption.

The truth in that letter will not permit anybody, and that includes the worst of your critics, Dear General, to accuse you of bitterness. No matter what Abati comes out to feed us, for sure, people like me will not agree with him or his ilk that you are one cranky old man, envious of his principal. It does appear like you were sincerely led by the love for country in drafting that letter.

However, General, the same truth in the said letter has prompted some of those who read you to wonder where this patriotism was while you bestrode Nigeria’s political landscape with visible mercilessness in the 8 years that you ruled. And while it lasted, you probably never imagined that a day would come when the genie you planted in your kitchen will spring up and give every family member the run of their lives. For those of us who think you did this land evil by your choice of successors, this is that ah ha! moment.

General, you rightly recognized that by being Nigeria’s president, one was handling five positions concurrently. It was from these five positions that you created this president Jonathan and foisted him on a nation in need of speed. Like I have said in the past, Jonathan is your legacy. You will live with this reality till the day you die. In your essential nature, which is particularly common with the Nigerian politician anyway, you kept dropping God’s name in that letter. You claimed God made Jonathan president through you. That’s not true, General. God did not make Jonathan Nigeria’s president. You did. Actually, Nigeria’s president as of today could have been anybody. It was just for you to decide. Whoever you foisted on the nation in 2007 was your choice, not God’s. And like I said, that president could have been anybody. Do you realize, General, that if the presidential candidate in 2007 had been a Nuhu Ribadu or an El-Rufai, then there wouldn’t have been a President Jonathan today? Because, for one, they are both still alive. I am assuming that your VP choice would still have remained Jonathan. I mean, if you had tinkered with your combination for that contest, the outcome today wouldn’t be exactly what it is. If it had been Yar’Adua and another Ijaw person, capable and detribalized, we wouldn’t be having a President Jonathan now. It’s important you note this.

May the General be reminded that, as at the night you conscripted Governor Goodluck Jonathan into the presidential race – to serve as Yar’Adua’s running mate- he had a huge case of corruption hanging on his neck. Which makes it, permit me to use this, hypocritical of you to now accuse the president of corruption. You are worried about the allegation that sales of crude worth billions weren’t remitted into the nation’s treasury? Seriously, General, what makes you think a corrupt governor will not be a corrupt Vice President? And how will a corrupt Vice President not make a corrupt president? Interestingly, you were the one who constituted a Joint Task Force in 2006 which listed Goodluck Jonathan amongst candidates for prosecution on the grounds of false declaration of assets. It was a breach of Code of Conduct for public office holders. That Task Force was headed by your anti-corruption chief, Nuhu Ribadu. It comprised of the Independent Corrupt Practices and Other Related Offences Commission (ICPC), The Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC), The Code of Conduct Bureau (CCB), The Department of State Services (DSS), and the Nigerian Police. In their report, they recommended for prosecution of Dr Goodluck Jonathan and some other state governors of that time. The grounds for Jonathan’s potential prosecution were stated as follows:

Substance of Charges (1) False Declaration of Assets

(i) Lexus Jeep worth N18 million claimed to have been acquired through savings in 2004. Verification reveals that the Jeep was a gift collected in contravention of the CCB Act of 1990. Same for BMW 7351 Series bought in 2005 worth N5.5 million;

(ii) Acquisition of properties outside legitimate income; Seven Bedroom Duplex acquired in 2001 worth N18 million at Otuke Ogbia LGA, Four Bedroom Duplex acquired in 2003 worth N15 million at Goodluck Jonathan Street, Yenegoa;
Five Bedroom Duplex – acquired in 2003 worth N25 million at Citec Villas, Gwarimpa II – Abuja.

Yet you, without regards for decency and honour – oh, that word! – for the office of the president, forced Jonathan into the presidential contest the very next year. So who is the problem? The leopard which is unable to change its spot or the man who didn’t like the spots but still opted for the leopard in a contest where only the Zebra was good enough? Your argument that you wanted a core North/South South combination in 2007 isn’t tenable, because much as it (the North/South divide) is our reality, Yar’Adua/Jonathan wasn’t the only solution to that challenge. In truth, if you went for merit, they never came near the mark. There were hundreds of more qualified and better people from the two regions. General, admit it, your choice of Yar’Adua and Jonathan was in your best interest, not Nigeria’s. It was more of an ego trip than a journey to bequeath our fledgling democracy competent, and able hands.

I heard you mention ‘honour’ in your letter. That sounded strange. Honour? Well… there’s a coalesced consensus on your person, that you aren’t the type who qualifies even remotely to charge anybody of lacking in ‘honour’. Would you be kind enough, General, to remind us how honourable it was to want to tinker with our nation’s constitution for a self-serving third term to be inserted therein? Some of the most qualified people in your administration to succeed you in office were snubbed because they didn’t support your third term plot. Remember how much you bribed legislators to ensure the constitutional amendment did happen? At that point in our history, you, General Obasanjo, did not care if Nigeria was tottering on the edge of entropy. It never mattered that your action was driving us back to 1966. Today, Jonathan, driven by the same ambition that propelled you, doesn’t really give a damn. Those who tried it before him are still alive and well, and you would want to also add, superbly rich, to junket the whole globe donning the garb of international statesmen. Jonathan thinks he has a future in the trade that sustained – and still sustains – you. So why blame him? You showed him the path to dishonour. He is not likely to depart from it. It is good to suddenly remember such an ideal as honour. I just however, thought to remind you that it would have come handy when you were the president. And with such example, the presidency wouldn’t have attracted a character like Goodluck Jonathan under your supervision.

You talked about crises in your party and how the president fuels it. Well, you are right. For self-serving interests, Jonathan has factionalized his party. But I just think he learnt that from you. Dear General, do you remember a man called Audu Ogbeh? How did he stop being PDP national chairman? You went to his house at the thick of the night and procured his resignation at gun-point. And what was his offense? Oh, it was a letter. You see, a letter! Letters, especially this type you wrote Jonathan, are known to get you irate. Mr Audu Ogbeh wrote you a letter seeking your intervention – in your capacity as the Party Leader – in the political crises engulfing one of your PDP states. Recall, General, that Chris Ubah, billionaire tout and a relative of your late wife Stella, kidnapped the state Governor Chris Ngige and practically brought governance in the state to a halt. He had also set ablaze the seat of government. The governor’s security details were withdrawn with order from your Abuja and all you did was look the other way. Even when it became public knowledge that all Ubah wanted was for the state finances to be emptied into his bank accounts, you never acted irritated. You never cautioned Ubah who was enjoying your support. You can’t deny this, General, because Ubah’s blood brother, Andy, was your domestic aide then. And, as you once made us know, he used to serenade you to sleep. You masterminded the destabilization of a couple of states in Nigeria as the president. You effectively played God, sir. Isn’t it clear that Mr Jonathan’s polarization of PDP is reminicscent of the manner you equally polarized the party?

On sycophancy, you equally enjoyed a substantial dose of it. Remember Ojo Maduekwe? He was your man-Friday. You know, we all know he has a history of excellence in playing the perfect courtier. In early 1998, while you were languishing in prison, Ojo was at Abuja telling Nigerians why Abacha must transmute from army camouflage to baban riga. He said Abacha was the best thing to happen to Nigeria since the invention of Garri Ijebu. And then the moment Abacha died, he did a 360 degree and became your best man. At Eagle Square, at the twilight of your presidency, when you were plotting your eternal hold on PDP, Ojo was the one who helped you change your party’s constitution to make way for your emergence as the BOT chairman. That a character like that was very close to your government says much about your love, or lack of it, for truth.

There is an area I am tempted to absolve you of blame on the Jonathan presidency: the President’s clannishness. He hasn’t risen beyond ethnicity. He won’t. You see, it takes an upbringing of sufficient exposure to Nigeria’s diversity to not be tribal. Jonathan doesn’t have the heart to refrain from being the president of the ‘Ijaw Nation’. Sad as this is, you still are to blame. There are ways to find out if a man is a closet bigot, especially if the man isn’t ambitious. Ambitious men have a way of hiding their true selves. Jonathan the governor in an Ijaw state wouldn’t have been able to hide his disdain for other parts of the country; because, he never aspired to play at the national level. If you had sought for signs in 2007, you’d have seen many. But let’s face it, General: you weren’t after a detribalized Nigerian being the Vice President. You were only for a Vice President who had the capacity, alongside his principal, to be manipulated. And that you planned to do from your Ota Farm. Remember you told El-Rufai this? Well, The Accidental Public Servant, his expose on all that transpired in that government of yours, is my supporting evidence.

As a president, you were nationalistic, no doubt. And for that you deserve my commendation. But you did not necessarily seek nationalists to succeed you. You wanted puppets. You just got served, General.

I do not intend to do you an 18-page letter. I do not have such luxury of time. I’m in my productive years, and must use it to, in the absence of social security put in place in the country you ruled for 11 years, work extra hard in search of a secure retirement for myself.

So permit me to conclude this letter by referring to a very courageous assertion you made in your letter. I personally think that line should resonate in all books of Nigeria’s history at the right time. You said; “I have passed the stage of being flattered, intimidated, threatened, frightened, induced or bought… Death is the end of all human beings and may it come when God wills it to come.”

If you had abided this philosophy while you reigned, I doubt if we would be where we are today. For instance, the Ibrahim Babangida whom you craved the President’s indulgence to put in copy of the letter would have been where those who mismanage $12.4b of their countries’ wealth are kept: jail.

It’s disgusting to flaunt a friendship with a man who liberalized corruption in the country you claim to love, when, in truth, you had the opportunity to extract justice from him for the rest of the citizens, and even humanity.

You see, you wrote a good letter. It is only sad that this mess we are into could have been completely avoided…by you. Now, the next solution, which is the president heeding your wise counsel, will unfortunately be rubbished by his knowledge and those of his aides, that you did not lead by example. The president will, as it is practiced amongst Nigeria’s political elite, hurl the message inside the trash bin because the messenger is tainted.

This is why your message came way too late, because you, while you served in that same capacity, should have been the message yourself. And if you had been, Jonathan wouldn’t have become, because in him you wouldn’t have found the depth required to steer the ship of the Nigerian state, the entity you profess so much love for.

Thank you, General, and please accept the assurances of my highest regards.

Chinedu Ekeke
(An unknown Nigerian)

Source: http://www.ekekeee.com/sorry-general-obasanjo-already-late-chinedu-ekeke/

I'm sorry I just had to quote this again.... It just so sad how great we could be if out of our 200 million sheeplike/shallow population we only had 0.10 percent of Nigerians who could call a spade a spade! That's just 200000 Chinedus... even the Bible suggests that if God can find a few true Men he would spare the suffering of the majority (Abraham praying for the condemned city). It's sad because when you go abroad one realises that not every oyibo is good or morally/intellectually astute/upright. The vast majority of them are as careless, trivial, shallow and silly as the vast majority of Nigerians... the difference there is the fools, never do wells, tribalists and dunderheads don't get to rule or set the foundations... the majority are smart enough not to pick from the majority!

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PointB: Perhaps the question is where do we go from here? Succour with the 'children of anger' is definitely a big NO as pitching tent with APC is akin to jumping from frying pan to the fire itself - judging from the disparate collection of desperate characters that peopled the party.

What need to be done is a complete restructure of the country - weakening the center and decentralizing governance And enthronment of ful resource control. If such is not tenable, I vote for continuity, let the ship sink. It's a make or mar!

The sad thing is we know you know the answer for your first question.... Its just the fear/insecurity in you as evidenced by your next sentence shows why despite all our education we can't have an Egypt here or a chance of a rebirth Nationwide.. or at least in the whole of the South where we have definitely reached educational emancipation. Why would you know the right thing but because of emotional/ sentimental baggage chose inferior alternatives.... stop being scared my friend, free yourself from self inflicted chains and let the TRUTH set you free, let the essence of who you are, the true humanity in you spill out!!

May God forgive me but WOW.. wow, wow, wow. After being on NL for so long I had began to forget what I always admired in the forthright Easterner.. No holds back, no constraints, tell it as it is (the TRUTH and not a figment of a scared imagination) and let the whole world go to blazes!! May God bless my brother, may God bless my brother... thank you Chinedu and may God bless you again.

The funny thing is that a lot of evidence now shows the correct answer to your first question (at least if we are using precedence) is A, Zik.

With the pattern of your other questions, I'm sure you didn't mean for any other answer than Baba Iyabo but if you spend more time on the politics forum here and you will not make this kind of mistake again.

So a hardened GEJ lover like this useless Octopus can quote Sahara reporters eh... WOW, hypocrisy will never end!!

AhWetin: I think you ought to ask for clarification first before jumping! I simply said there's no difference between saying a phone is UK-used or otherwise. Used phone is USED phone , na same type of human being use it on both sides of the globe! I live in UK and so I have a better perspective than you in telling you that it is simply CRAP calling anything "uk-used". Smh!

Are you the first person to live in Uk? Even after the original poster explained CLEARLY why he calls them UK used you still had to continue with your useless rant. Look Mr Man, why don't you go and tackle the car sellers on tokunboh cars, why they have different prices for registered and unregistered cars? Why don't you go and challenge Park n shop on why they sold me five balls of tomatoes at over N1000 because they had the imported badge? Your crusade is at best too late and too far off- start your revolution from the UK there by convincing them that they pay too much for Mcdonalds, the Gap, iMax movies and all other imported ideas they have there.

simpleseyi: By now, he will be sharing 70 virgins with Abacha.

You'll find that the Bamayis are 'Christian'.

So sad.

quality01: Am equally an igbo man but your statement just proves you are mentally abnormal. I just wish you can see how this Ngozi is openly twisting things whenever NPF engages in unlawful act. Please from tribe from this because it can be you tomorrow.

STOP saying it can be him tomorrow, pray to the ALMIGHTY JUDGE that it will be him tomorrow!

But how many intellectuals, including Northern ones do actually hold Bello in esteem?

karl max: Lagosians are aware of the fraud called lagos state government and all their media propoganda!!!come 2015 we would boot dem out of power!! They can continue their propoganda on the internet and the pages of newspaper but the electorates are wiser now

I am not sure what you are making noise about. Nothing will happen in Lagos in 2015 because most of us know APC for now are the best of a bad bunch. Lagosians and especially Yorubas cannot spite their hand by cutting off their fingers. In this region we are "managing" the people in power, we know it and they do too. That's why they don't drive on the other side of the road and kill nigerians, nor shoot at students nor rent fake crowds to threaten the masses when they are caught buying imaginary 225million naira worth of cars. The people here know it is them (corrupt politicians) against us and thus we cannot be split or lose focus. More Nigerians should learn from us..it is better to "manage" eczema than pretentiously celebrate skin cancer!

Is Nigeria the only country where VIPs move on the road? Why must they kill intellectuals like Iyayi and harass innocent citizens for daring to use the roads with them? How long do we want to continue with such barbarism in the 21st century?