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johnydon22:
It's a nebula.. A nebula is a huge interstellar cloud that can be many light years big..

And nebulas are also part of galaxy most times nursery for the births of new stars due to their wealth in hydrogen

Clown. so this your nebula has thought,brain , hands and ability to design and create the Universe?

omonnakoda:
I knew it! There is no God

Clown. If their is no God. who then made the Universe?

finofaya:
Wrong answer.

So Explain to me. the source of moral values.

podosci:
Lol, so you dont believe Mars exist? Nigga, seriously?

Why not. I am a product of a Science school. just making a point

Abagworo:
It's nothing to do with Europeans. Trust me most Nigerian major cities I own properties like Owerri, Enugu, Port Harcourt and Abuja have master plans. Every plot of land is recorded and its purpose clearly defined. There are areas mapped out for open spaces, recreational parks, future rail lines, power lines, schools etc. Some are even digital like Greater PH city where you can view everything using google earth at their office to point out specific plots.

In most cases the natives of the area often take laws into their hands because of rising property value and at the end of the day Government is forced to yield to their excesses. In our tradition they own the lands while by law Government does.

Lol.....dreamer.

podosci:
Did your Bible or Quran tell you about Mars? Or asteroids talk more the thousands of galaxy spread across the universe.
I have not disputed the existence or non existence of God, I have only talked about the stupidity of the eathly religions we practice.

The funny thing is Clowns like you .have never seen Mars. except for oyibo people that said it exists. and i can bet money you are not even a science student.

An2elect2:
I will like to know what made it bad? you mind sharing?

Guy leave the idiots. what they can not disprove they call it copy and paste .

bi0nics:
NO PHILOSOPHICAL BASIS FOR ETHICS
Beyond dispute there are moral atheists.
I ve known atheists who are more ethical
than some people claiming to believe in a
god. This is not the issue. The question is,
why be ethical? Can an adequate basis
for morality be found given atheistic
premises? Think about it. Unless God
exists, there is no eternal and
transcendent standard for right and
wrong. If God did not give the Ten
Commandments to Moses at Sinai,
thereby establishing a moral standard
above human creation, we are merely
left with humanly devised scruples. If
humanity is left to create its own ethical
standards, we are left with only three
options to base ethics upon: 1) collective
tradition, 2) human survival, or 3)
personal preference.
IS COLLECTIVE TRADITION AN ETHICAL
BASE?
Those who argue that morality is
properly based upon what society as a
whole deems moral have a big problem.
What one society says is moral another
says is immoral. Nazi Germany held that
it was morally good and beneficial to
exterminate the Jewish people. The Allies
saw the Nazis as evil and fought against
them. Who was right? If one believes God
gave the law You shall not murder, the
answer is obvious. Any society that
advocates murder is evil. How can an
atheist respond? Most would admit the
Nazis were evil, but according to what
standard? Were the Nazis evil just
because the Allies said they were evil or
were they in fact evil? One can try to
argue that it isn't just what a few
societies say that matters, but what the
majority of human societies agree upon.
This does provide a better basis, since
God has given us a conscience, but it has
been corrupted by rebellion. At one time
most human societies placed less value
on female offspring than on males. In
many societies female infants were left
to die. In some places this exists today.
This is morally wrong, no matter if the
whole of human society were to say
otherwise! Basing morality on human
society does not provide an adequate
answer.

Nice one. i will borrow your writeup. nice point.

bi0nics:
atheists think they've taken a heroic stand, but could it be that they really don't want to face up to the possibility that God is indeed there? I hope you'll be intellectually honest enough to consider what I have to say and see if it makes sense. No one who has prejudged an issue can be convinced of anything contrary to what he wants to believe. There are still those who insist the earth is flat and no one can convince them otherwise, no matter what the evidence. There are always folks, no matter if religious or atheistic, who stubbornly believe what they prefer, no matter if reason and fact show otherwise. Someone like this has the unspoken philosophy: Don't confuse me with the facts. My mind is already made up. Ask yourself: Am I open-minded or narrow minded? Am I willing to change my mind if I can be shown atheism doesn't make sense? You might say, If God is there, let him prove it to me. I don't want to take an irrational leap of faith. Fine. In Isaiah 2:18 God says: come let us reason together. He wants us to reason and He certainly wants us to be be rational, but He will not submit himself to human scrutiny; to do so he would need to stop being God! He will not bow to our perverse judgements. Ask yourself, Would I ever be willing to believe God is there, however strong the evidence? You see, your problem may not be in your head as much as in your heart. Perhaps you've already taken a leap of faith. To assert God cannot exist, despite the impossibility of proving that statement, is the ultimate irrational leap! 1 THE IRRATIONALITY OF ATHEISM Atheism tends to exalt reason, but it is actually irrational. Atheists tend to put a lot of stock in the emperical method and in logic. One cannot disprove God exists using the emperical method. You might reply: But I can't disprove a giant purple frog on Mars controls the universe, either. Granted, one can never disprove any given thing exists. The atheistic position denying God's existence, if based on the emperical method, is absurd. Why do I say that? In order to prove the assertion No God exists experimentally, one would need to comprehensively know all of reality. Comprehensive knowledge of reality is called omniscience. One would need to be omniscient in order to prove there is no God, but if one were omniscient one would, by definition, already be God! So, based on emperical methodology, the only one capable of disproving the existence of God would be God himself! But some would say you can indeed assert something does not exist if its existence is logically self contradictory, such as a square triangle. By definition it cannot exist. It is illogical for something to be a square and to also be a triangle. Again, granted, but this line of reasoning assumes logic and real meaning exist and are our basis for knowledge --something an atheist has no right to assert! The existence of God is not only logically possible, it is philosophically essential. (We'll get to that more later below.) One cannot prove logic exists unless one first presupposes a God in whom reason and meaning are transcendentally rooted, otherwise these categories are mere philosphical prejuduces. Atheism is inherently self- contradictory. The evidence for the existence of God is there for all to see, only we refuse to see it. King David wrote: The fool says in his heart there is no God. (Psalm 14:1) In other words, Atheism is irrational. Apart from God there is no basis for truth or ethics. For the sake of brevity,

Nice article.

finofaya:
Where is the explanation you're supposed to give?

All human's have different view of what moral values should be. years back same sex marriage was frowned upon. today it is common .changing cultures and value systems have lead to moral decandence.
Eg in US. their is debate of , weather to allow Male transgenders to use the same restroom facility with females.

But God's moral values are constant they do not differ from time to time. or change with culture and they are independent of Human view.

Like i said before show me one God's moral value that you do not agree to or is Globally unacceptable.

Weah96:
Mother Nature is sufficient. She's the source of your ungrateful block head. Your threat is empty and reeks of despair. This is how you people jinx yourself. You know fully well that all human beings die, but here you are basically making empty threats. Because your intent is to turn this into a race, you will end up as a certain lock for 1st place. And you can put that on Nairabet.

Clown ,So you know people die. and your mother nature cannot explian that. you need to fix your brain .

finofaya:
I laugh at your indoctrination. Explain why all the things you listed, except killing, are wrong.

Then explain why every of your God's moral views should be correct.

I should ask you which of those things do you want to be done to you or you are invouled in?
I guess you accept been lied to, you accept infiedelity or killing of your loved ones.

WORDWORLD:
To start with, the reason why you called me a big fool is because you are a CHRISTIAN. Am not surprise.


Its so CONSPICUOUS the reputation built in the sands of time with a very, very deep footing by the VATICAN, their standing firmly in OPPOSITION TO HOMOSEXUALISM, SAME SEX MARRIAGE, ABORTION.............E.T.C

Their stands against homosexualism makes most amusing some verses in the Bible as it relates directly to the nature of the VATICAN'S JUDGEMENT OF HOMOSEXUALISM by describing the judgement as no more than a DOUBLE STAND.

The CHURCH pretends not to perceiving the BIG PLANK in their own eyes too while admonishing someone else to removing the SPECK in their own eyes.

Well, religion is almost nothing but, "do as I say and NOT as I do". HYPOCRITES!!! 

So, His Holines, (former) Pope Benedict XVI, nick-named as GOD'S ROTTWEILLER for his hardline views, an aggressive doctrine enforcing Cardinal before he was appointed to Vatican top job made in his Christmas message, obviously without INTROSPECTION, without THINKING TWICE his speech which he made against homosexualism on behalf of the CHURCH.

He said, "God had created man and woman as a specific 'DUALITY'.......an essential aspect of what being human is all about".

So, the Pope's speech got me thinking, if TRUTHFUL an essential aspect of what it means to being human is the 'DUALITY', man and woman as created by God. Then, His Holiness' judgement against HOMOSEXUALISM, SAME SEX MARRIAGE based on this duality, the union of man and woman, is seriously in CONFLICTING DISPUTE with he himself, the Pope by him being a CELIBATE. For celibacy is a DENIAL of the very essence of our being human, for it embraces not this 'DUALITY' of man and woman as created by God. Celibacy is obviously a deviation from the intended roles of man and woman on planet earth, like is homosexualism. It is turning deaf ears to the language of creation, celibacy is infact  a DESTRUCTION OF GOD'S WORK.

"Or, how can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me remove the speck that is in your eye, when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye? HYPOCRITE!!! First remove the plank in your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck that is in your brother's eye. For a good tree does not bear bad fruit nor does a bad tree bear good fruit". Luke 6 : 42 - 44.

Its absolutely no DOUBT that all kinds of sexual perversions and attrocities and immoralities that we are faced with today have 'A' deep root by factor in the CHURCH'S TEACHINGS.

That isn't all Pope Benedict XVI had to say against homosexualism in St Peter's square at the Vatican in his Christmas message as he rightly denounces same sex marriage even though a celibate.

Church teaches that homosexual act is "instrinsically disordered",  "manipulation of nature" "ATTACK" on the traditional family made up of father, mother and children.

If CELIBACY is not a manipulation of nature, an ATTACK on traditional family made up of father, mother and children then what is it? A DOCTRINE DISORDER, or A COMMANDMENT OF GOD?

Same sex marriage definately has NO place in God's Commandment to allowing such an ABERRANT BEHAVIOUR as homosexualism.

The Vatican is no representative of the Church or God. infact they are the no. one cause of the confusion in Christedom. they are the mystery Babaylon.they are occultic.

Secondly Homosexuality and all other form of sexually immorality is evil and bad before God. and you will agree with me that most people also frown at sexual immorality.

kazyhm:
pwuu

Is that Your name? CLOWN.

Weah96:
Wasted se)men. Who told you that atheists believe in evolution as a matter of fact? Your pea brain didn't tell you that there are atheists who have never been to school?
Your god is fake. A soiled piece of toilet paper s real. Real>> fake.

Idiot .so what do you people believe in? very soon you will reconsidered your statement. very very soon. i assure U.

KidStranglehold:
1. Where are you going? YOU said that African-Americans were responsible for Haiti, when Haiti was founded by Haitians.
2. No duh both countries are extremely poor, do you want a cookie or something? The Haiti's history is complex and if you bothered to study it you would find that the country did not get the way it did after night. You would learn that it was a combination of western meddling(mainly from USA who actually occupied Haiti and stole a lot from its treasury) and during the 60s leaders like Pape Doc who caused a large brain drain. Y

Haiti during the 20s...
https://www.antanlontan-antilles.com/uploads/screen2/haiti-la-rue-roux-a-port-au-prince.jpg

^^Sure looks like a failed state...

As for Liberia is another complex situation. Which you ognored me saying that it had one of the more stable economies during the 40s in Africa.

The country began to modernize in the 1940s following investment by the United States during World War II and economic liberalization under President William Tubman. Liberia was a founding member of the United Nations and the Organization of African Unity. A military coup overthrew the Americo-Liberian establishment in 1980, marking the beginning of political and economic instability and two successive civil wars that left approximately 250,000 people dead and devastated the country's economy. A 2003 peace deal led to democratic elections in 2005. Again before the Ebola outbreak Liberia was recovering from the lingering effects of the civil war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberia

Hell IIRC Liberia was the FIRST in Africa to have airports.

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^^^Just look at those uncivilized blacks...And IIRC Liberia had the same GDP as South Korea during the 70s. The point is not to ignore what got these two nations in the situation that they are in. And instead of worrying about blacks and their countries you should worry about Europe and its shrinking economy.

To a point that Angola(a black country) has to bail them out...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORWXjyD4ABI

And don't think this is wishful thinking, its just hitting southern Europe first. We're already seeing it with Iberia, Italy and Greece. Next its soon France and then Belgium.. Oh wait...
Au Revoir to France’s Welfare Model as Socialists Cut Spending

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-10-08/au-revoir-to-france-s-welfare-model-as-socialists-cut-spending#disqus_thread

Meanwhile African economies are increasing at a fast rate. Boy have times have changed, this is what happens when you can no longer depend on African resources.

You can keep talking your little sh*t online, but its not going to change the fate of Europe.

Idiot am done with your kind.low IQ chimps. you can go through my posts to see my response to similarly pathetic excuse like this .i gave to your fellow clowns. i don't have that time to waste on another freak.

sweetcocoa:
Welcome to reason bro.

Enjoy your peace of mind.

Atheismism - was invented by freemasons to act like a relaxative. or a feel good option for people not to fear God and his judgement(Hell).

It's a state of feeling their is no God. and hence they are not going to be held accountable. but that is a big big big lie.

KAG:
I guess we have different ideas of morality, then. I consider the execution of children to be immoral, and can never find any reason to justify their wholesale execution. But that's just me. Perhaps it's why I don't appeal to your god for "moral objectivity".

Which Children? all those Children were lost to idol worship. they were possessed by Demons.
Do you know that liberals and atheist are the main advocate for abortion and de-population agenda ? so why contracdict yourself.

EZEIGBO1OFIMO:
The biggest fallacy to this article and mode of thinking would be the questions; Who is God?, If God is a being transcending the human level of consciousness, how then can you seek the answers of morality from him?, Why is left to a few individual to communicate with God?, if God the supreme creator of the Universe , all there was, is and will ever be, lays down moral codes to us, wouldn't it be an inherent violation of the entropy of the Universe which resonates on free will?.

Which Universe resonates on free will?. if the Universe resonates on free will .then why do we have gravity and other laws of nature? are they not their for our benefit?
Same with God's moral values contained in his ten Commandments. their is no part of that law that we (Human's) have not benefitted from it. no one wants to be killed or lied to. no one wants his spouse to commit adultery. e.t.c the list is endless

PastorAIO:
Only God can impose a subjective moral code on others. Okay.

Why must you impose your moral code, subjective or objective, on others?

Will it pain you if you can't impose your moral code on others? If so, why so?

He created us in his image so he can impose his morality on us abi?

Biko, why did he then not want us to have knowledge of Good and Evil, according to your source?

Why wasn't the moral code automatic when he made us in his image, instead Man had to eat the knowledge of good and evil first?

He created us with the ability to make a Choice.
Of what use having the knowledge of good and bad is.when you cannot do good by your own capacity? i hope you known that man's knowledge of good and bad is the problem we have in this world today.

finofaya:
The problem of finding objective moral values is not solved by calling on a God who decides what the moral values are. Objective moral values have to be independent of every moral agent, and God, like man, is a moral agent.

Besides, we live in a world where there is no consensus as to what the objective moral values are, if any. Everyone, theists and atheists alike, disagrees on what it might be. Most of us are probably wrong about what it is, which is the same thing as not knowing what it is. Any objective moral values which exist are currently of no use to humanity since most or all of us don't know them. Looking for a moral code which allows us to coexist in harmony is a more worthwhile pursuit than squabbling over where we can find objective morality. If such a thing were to be found we most likely still wouldn't follow it anyway since you can hardly convince everyone of it. For example, assume you are right and whatever moral code you follow is indeed objective. Now tell me what effect your discovery of this objective morality has had on our moral landscape. Does telling people that it is objective cause them to adopt it?

I laugh at your ingnorance. so if we are to depend on human moral values. what we will get is transgender,arbortion,Legal Sucide,gayism,same sex miarriage,mass killing,Religeous killing, Nudity .becos human moral is subjective.
Since every human being has his or her own view of what is moral and what is not.

WORDWORLD:
An atheist is someone who suddenly realizes that he been SCAMMED in the name of God. Atheist are majority an outcrop of Christianity. YET THEY ARE NOT LOOKING VERY NEAR ENOUGH. My personal observation is that they are on a journey but have not reached the GOAL that ascertain TRUTH that cant be disprove. A TRUISM!!!

Christianity for that matter has produce a lot of "miracles" (LAUGHING) among them is the Sexual Perversion in our world today.

Another is Democracy. its an outcrop of the inefficiency of Christianity to providing solutions to the problems of mankind.

As regards SEX. Christianity preaches that SEX which is infact a gift and blessing to mankind is an INHERENT SIN even though in marriage. This alone can make any SANE to dump Christainity.

If you care to read more, this might interest oyou.

www.nairaland.com/3097462/homosexualism-humanity-collective-hypocrisy

You are a big fool. where did Christainity state that sex in miarrage is a Sin.
99% of atheists are people who do not want to quit their stupid sexual or pervasive habits and try to justify it by saying their is no God.

plaetton:
Agnostics are newly released/escaped prisoners of religion, living in a halfway house, resting,, catching their breath, savouring the fresh air of freedom , and in that safe cozy confine, trying to decide whether they are courageous enough to cope with full mental sovereignty , limited mental sovereignty or to run back to the doped bliss of religious prison.

Same as Deism.

That's why we would always lend our pity, and when necessary, our outstretched hands to folks like Deepsight.

If they want to be free. they should stop observing christain religeous morals. you can't hate God and still want to live and observe those God given gifts and morals.
its is a fact atheist promote gayism,arbortion,drug use,mass killing,support Sucide,genocide,transgender. i hope you get a taste of your wish.

Beautiful writeup.

johnydon22:
Honestly. . . A great purge in the minds of our youths dispelling superstitions and religions.

The emergence of reason always is a slow and consistent process. . . we are witnessing that consistent progress on NL in their numbers lately.

Clown. do you know what you even wrote.go and check the history of the two philiosphy. and the history of athesim. same satanist who rebel against God were responsible for the invention of Atheism and Evolution to discredit christainity and fool guillable minds like yours.

Immorttal:
the numbers are increasing,...Welcome another liberated man!!!

Numbers of insane people are increasing.welcome him to your bondage.

Weah96:
In case you haven't been following, I don't buy it. Whether or not there is a creator and the attributes of said creator are topics that remain open for discussion. Those are common sense topics.

One sees a painting, one assumes a painter. Fine. One doesn't see a painting and then argue that it was done by his former classmate Festus Azubike. Did Festus leave a signature on the painting? Did he call you? You must provide evidence that Festus is the painter otherwise all we know is that the portrait was painted by an unknown someone or something.
The same goes for your Bible god. The book written by men doesn't prove that Bible god is the creator of the universe.

Idiot but you believe Evolution without seeing it.was evolution and Bigbang not written by men? have they been proved?
You don't know how stupid atheism makes you look like.

sylvalord:
Actually, all what you just typed is what christianity is about. Total stupidity, mental slavery, willful submission and subjection to derision. Don't worry, i won't ever go back!

Welcome to Bondage. that's what atheism offers. idiot.

KingEbukasBlog:
No one cares ... You can also cross into the land of total stupi.dity and mental slavery , a willful submission and subjection to derision - there's still time for that phase

This clowns can quit been stupid. he could have crossed striaght to lagos Lagoon.

Ubenedictus:
I asked u just one question please answer.
what is the ministry of death carved in stone?
is it not the 10 commandments?
this is to see if u are even sincere

commandments?
This is the full explanation of your Bible verse.
The ministration of death [the Ten
Commandments points out sin; Romans 7:7, and
sin points to death; Romans 6:23] on stone was
Glorious and was NOT to be done away. It was the
glory on the face of Moses that was done away.
The King James Version is a little unclear in its
translation on this point. Observe just a few of
many translations below which are clearer.
AMP) “Now if the dispensation of death engraved
in letters on stone [the ministration of the Law],
was inaugurated with such glory and splendor
that the Israelites were not able to look steadily at
the face of Moses because of its brilliance, [a
glory] that was to fade and pass away.”
(ASV) “But if the ministration of death, written,
and engraven on stones, came with glory, so that
the children of Israel could not look stedfastly
upon the face of Moses for the glory of his face;
which glory was passing away.”
(NASB) “But if the ministry of death, in letters
engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the
sons of Israel could not look intently at the face
of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading
as it was.”
(NIV) “Now if the ministry that brought death,
which was engraved in letters on stone, came
with glory, so that the Israelites could not look
steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory,
fading though it was.”
(RSV) “Now if the dispensation of death, carved in
letters on stone, came with such splendor that
the Israelites could not look at Moses' face
because of its brightness, fading as this was.”
Moses was the minister of the Old Covenant.
He gave the people God's instructions on how to
keep the Ten Commandments law [detailed
requirements on what to do] and what to do when
it was broken [Priests and Sacrifices]. This
glorious system of ministration was done away
with, not the Ten Commandments. Christ
ministers the New Covenant. He gives people the
Spirit who gives people instructions on how to
keep the law [think it, not just do it] and what to
do if it is broken [genuinely repent and trust in
Christ to cover sin]. Under the New Covenant the
law is written in our hearts.
Hebrews 8:10 “For this is the covenant that I
will make with the house of Israel after those
days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their
mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will
be to them a God, and they shall be to me a
people:”
To enable people to internalize His law, to love
it and obey it eagerly and willingly, God made
this promise. See also 2 Corinthians 3:3 in the
above passage in contention.

According to what was written in the article, the guy didn't claim Queen Sheba was white - and if his theory is true, then it will going a long way in solving some of the mysteries in Bible... If she were from that region, then King Solomon is definitely black - and it will further help the Ijebu people trace their ancestry to the right place... And also help shed more light on Christianity...

Presently, the Ijebu people have two theories about their origins. The first one is the Ife origin, and how Obanta (the progenitor of the Ijebu race) migrated from Ile-ife to Ijebu Ode... And the second one is the Sudan (Nubia) theory, and how Ijebu people migrated from Nubia to Ijebu ode - before the Itsekiris separated from the Ijebus..

Calm down, bruv..

I Lol......Dreamers