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Nairaland General › Re: Black Or White Government In Africa... Which Is Better? by blueAgent(m): 10:16am On Apr 10, 2016
MduZA:
Stop dreaming ....Limpopo river is between SA and Zimbabwe,so this is how you console yourself since your country people are flocking to SA like flies..poverty in SA can be perceived as good life in your country..if you don't have anything to do just join your fellow country men at the ikeja mall in lagos to watch escalators ...or stand on top of your mud house to watch a 1800 model steam train which passes through after 6 months..
King Zwelithini said that “people on the ground
did not appreciate the infrastructure” which they
had inherited from the white rulers, even though
the ANC leaders themselves governed from the
very buildings which the whites had created.
READ Mars in Just 10 Weeks?
Referring specifically to the Union Buildings in
Pretoria and the South African Parliament in Cape
Town, King Zwelithini said that he was “surprised
that all presidents who have been elected in this
so-called democracy, occupy apartheid
buildings.”
“But you on the ground, are burning everything
that you found here. . . you don’t want to use
them (buildings), you say this is apartheid
infrastructure,” he said.
Nairaland General › Re: Black Or White Government In Africa... Which Is Better? by blueAgent(m): 10:14am On Apr 10, 2016
LeSudAfricaine:
Oh is it? You are so fixated on South African statistics aren't you? grin'grin'grin' problem is you haven't said anything the other Nigerians haven't said, oh by the way Gauteng is the richest province in South Africa and has the biggest black popoualtion. Try another angle
Zulu King: Blacks Destroy S. Africa
The official king of South Africa’s Zulu tribe has
announced that that country was economically,
militarily, and socially better under white
Afrikaner rule—and that history will judge blacks
as only having destroyed everything that they had
inherited from the white government.
King Goodwill Zwelithini, who has been Zulu king
since December 1971, made the remarks during
a speech at an official royal household event in
Nongoma, located in the northeastern part of the
eastern seaboard province of KwaZulu-Natal, over
the past weekend.
The event, held to mark his forty-fourth year on
the Zulu throne, was reported on by the Natal
Mercury newspaper.
King Zwelithini said the former white rulers of
South Africa had “built a powerful government
with the strongest economy and army on the
continent.”
He went on to say that the white government had
“a mighty army, and that the South African
currency and economy had shot up” under the
National Party government.
“But then,” he continued, “came this so-called
democracy in which black people are destroying
the gains of the past. The economy that we are
now burning down.”
Addressing himself directly to black people, King
Zwelethini said that “you do not want to build on
what you had inherited. You are going to find
yourselves on the wrong side of history.”
“History will judge black people harshly as they
have failed to build on the successes of the
Afrikaners,” he said, before continuing to explain
that “black people loved to use matches to burn
down infrastructure” built by the white
government.
Nairaland General › Re: Black Or White Government In Africa... Which Is Better? by blueAgent(m): 10:05am On Apr 10, 2016
MduZA:
Stop dreaming ....Limpopo river is between SA and Zimbabwe,so this is how you console yourself since your country people are flocking to SA like flies..poverty in SA can be perceived as good life in your country..if you don't have anything to do just join your fellow country men at the ikeja mall in lagos to watch escalators ...or stand on top of your mud house to watch a 1800 model steam train which passes through after 6 months..
So this is how U people built SA.

South Africa: 85% University Failure Rate
More than 85% of all undergraduate students
enrolled at South Africa’s majority black 23
public universities fail their studies and drop out,
according to a report by that country’s
government. The failure rate for Master’s students
is 80 percent and for doctoral students 88
percent.
These figures were contained in the South African
Government’s Department of Higher Education
and Training’s annual statistical report which
looked at the “size and shape of post-school
education and training in South Africa
.”
The pass rates in South Africa have been steadily
falling for several years, according to local media.
Nicolene Murdoch, the executive director for
teaching and quality at Monash University in
South Africa, was quoted as saying that the
graduation rates have ranged from 15 percent to
20 percent for several years now.
Black students are the overwhelming majority of students in South Africa—some 78 percent of
what are called “contact students” (those on
campus) and 83 percent of all students enrolled
in distance education. Student registrations have increased every year, from 495,355 in 1994 to 1,002,110 in 2014.
The pass rate is, not surprisingly, even lower than
the school graduation rate in that country.
Although the official pass rate in 2014 was 75.8
percent, this is a highly deceptive—and typically
Third World ruse.
To “pass” end of school examinations in South
Africa, a student only needs to get 40 percent in
three subjects—one of which must be their home
language—and 30 percent in three other subjects.
Technically speaking, if a pupil met the minimum
requirements and obtained 40 percent for three
subjects, 30 percent for three subjects and 0
percent for a seventh subject, then then they
would pass with a 30 percent average.
READ South Africa Follows the Path of Africa:
Nairaland General › Re: Black Or White Government In Africa... Which Is Better? by blueAgent(m): 9:59am On Apr 10, 2016
MduZA:
Stop dreaming ....Limpopo river is between SA and Zimbabwe,so this is how you console yourself since your country people are flocking to SA like flies..poverty in SA can be perceived as good life in your country..if you don't have anything to do just join your fellow country men at the ikeja mall in lagos to watch escalators ...or stand on top of your mud house to watch a 1800 model steam train which passes through after 6 months..
i


Shame you do not know the geography of your country.
I have never advocated for my country or the black race .they all of same people with low IQ
Family › Re: Househelp Cleans Her Vagina With Napkin, Then Wipes Her Boss' Dishes With It:Pic by blueAgent(m): 10:13pm On Apr 09, 2016
Seeeeeeee:
Security camera is very Good, most people feel am a witch but it's just the hidden security camera that i install in my sitting room, kitchen, bedroom and toilet. Most times i will tell my visitor mostly females i want to go out and see someone i will be back in like 2hrs time so that she will feel relax and do whatever she likes when i come back i will know everything thing she did especially the calls she made.. Before i leave i will make sure she has credit on her phone, any girl that has another guy will make call immediately you leave the house... I also place voice recorder, Hmmm try it and you will really know who cares.
007 agent
Phones › Re: 2.6Million Internet Subscribers Dump MTN by blueAgent(m): 10:09pm On Apr 09, 2016
MTN na Coperate Yahoz
Family › Re: Househelp Cleans Her Vagina With Napkin, Then Wipes Her Boss' Dishes With It:Pic by blueAgent(m): 10:00pm On Apr 09, 2016
fistonati:
APC must have frustrated her this much. Or what do I say.
Share if you get sense, quote me to show you lack sense.
Lol.....abi with fuel wahala and our tourist president travelling all the time. the househelp had to improvise to cut costs.
Nairaland General › Re: Black Or White Government In Africa... Which Is Better? by blueAgent(m): 9:28pm On Apr 09, 2016
LeSudAfricaine:
Erm....and what is this?
Limpopo is the South African province with the
highest level of poverty, with 78.9% of the
population living below the national poverty line.
[3] In 2011, 74.4% of local dwellings were
located in a tribal or traditional area, compared
to a national average of 27.1%.
Am not suprise .been the province with the least population of whites and large black population

Your Economy is in the hands of whites.despite them been minority. U try and chase them away ,you will end up like Zimbabawe.
Nairaland General › Re: Black Or White Government In Africa... Which Is Better? by blueAgent(m):
LeSudAfricaine:
One sided argument. There are many things to considered when it is comes to the life expectancy, when Apartheid ended South Africa was a closed society, we opened our boders to the world and that in itself brought different problems, coupled with the fact that the newly emancipated also want the slice of the South African dream the was bound to be a crime wave, Hiv or deseases like cancer were not prevalent then, people now have access to guns, many people have access to cars but also have a habit of drinking and driving, it's'a fact South Africa has one of the highest accident rates in the world, all those things contribute to the ovarall life expectancy of a country, nothing to do with your white gods

I am not suprised that you mentioned HIV, I don't know what it is with you guys and HIV, so obsessed with the disease, anyways HIV is a lifestyle disease, it's'ultimately it's' someone's' decision not to put on a condom Anc is not there under your bed covers. I'm sure you would like to know that due to the poilcies of Minister Aaron Motsoaled , the number of new infection has decreased

You say there has been massive corruption under black rule , as if the apartheid goverment was made of saints , you simply have no idea of the massive looting and the cronysim that were there hallmarks of the apartheid goverment. you see white people and you automatically see competence., you simply make careless statements like other Nigerians without really understanding the dynamics of the country

You can list all the statistics, tables, pie charts, documentaries or quote your white people like Leon Louw about how crime ridden South Africa is, but the fact remains, tourism is one of biggest source or foreign revenue, we are the most visited country in the continent,....oh what a dangerous country!

You talk about Zuma as if the black rule started with him, what about the others before him? What about the white leaders of Apartheid who were corrupt as him? Emancipate your mental slavery, see things the way they are and not be some white mouthpiece
Epic response. so why were U black SouthAfricans running to live with the whiteman .it's on record that SouthAfricans left their homelands and crossed the Limpopo river inspite of the corocodile inorder to live in the whiteman's city.
Your usual accusation of mental slavary is outdated and just a way of you decieving yourself with illusion that cannot stand the test of time
Christianity Etc › Re: Olumba Olumba Obu - Ooo by blueAgent(m): 4:48pm On Apr 09, 2016
Mewuoki:
The Nigerian Society is so funny a place that we accept information without verification. People, in the name of "trying to be current" will misinform the society and we will never verify these rumours. I have grew up to hear so many things abt olumba olumba, many of these stories are not even verified and i live very close to these people, I personally have to investigate these things and found out that most of these are propagandas raised by top public figures to show down on the Church. While Newspapers picked on every forms of lies to make money selling fake stories abt olumba, the so called born against also used these stories to buy members to themselves.One of the stories was that Olumba sucks Blood, and yet more people are rushing to the Church, are they not affraid of their blood be sucked. By conclusion, i know its difficult to quench rumours but i believe this the 21st century and we have information gadgets and systems that can be used in effective findings either to exposed or bring to light the activities of Sects, Churches and even individuals, Lets make use of these systems, Instate of reprinting what u hear without verifications.
U are confused. a man that calls himself God. bodly written on their church sign post and U are here defending them. fake Church
Nairaland General › Re: Black Or White Government In Africa... Which Is Better? by blueAgent(m): 3:48pm On Apr 09, 2016
MduZA:
In only 20 years ,the black rule has achieved more than the 300 years white rule...i know you will scream on top of your voice disputing this ...a fact many of you find it difficult to accept .
Guy U make me feel ashamed.
When apartheid ended, the life expectancy in
South Africa was 64 — the same as in Turkey and Russia. Now it’s 56, the same as in Somalia.
There are 132.4 rapes per 100,000 people per
year, which is by far the highest in the world:
Botswana is in second with 93, Sweden in third
with 64; no other country exceeds 32.

88%black South Africa police force are Hiv postive.
there have been Massive corruption and loot under black rule.
The South
African government estimates that there are 31
murders per 100,000 people per year. Or about
50 a day. That would make South Africa the tenth
most murderous country in the world, outpacing
Rwanda, Mexico, and both Sudans. And that’s
using South Africa’s official estimates — outside
groups put the murder rate 100 percent higher.

Unemployment is 25 percent,
but President Jacob Zuma, of the ANC, recently
spent $24 million of public money to add a pool
and amphitheater to his private home. Not long
after the story broke, he was elected to a second
five-year term. Think-tank theorist Leon Louw,
who helped defeat apartheid, calls the crime and
corruption “a simple manifestation of the
breakdown of the state. The government is just
appallingly bad at everything it does: education,
healthcare, infrastructure, security, everything
that is a government function is in shambles.”
Nairaland General › Re: Black Or White Government In Africa... Which Is Better? by blueAgent(m): 2:30pm On Apr 09, 2016
LeSudAfricaine:
South Africa
You are joking.SouthAfrica was ruled by minority whites for over 300yrs. until the end of Apartheid in 1994.the blacks have ruled for less than 30yrs and you are here attributing their success to black rule.
Education › Re: Nigerian Student Of Warwick Suffers Racism (Photo) by blueAgent(m): 12:24pm On Apr 09, 2016
LeSudAfricaine:
You can list all the achievements in the world it still doesnt justify worshiping white people ar denouncing your race, it's'simply senseless,
you know about all these achievements because the same white people make it a point that you know, I ask you if you know about your own African history as you do about white people's' do you know about your own Benin City that was at some point even far advanced than European Cities,? Advanced astronony was known in many African tribes most notably in Mali, so as Mathematics , things like Agriculture are definately not white invention.
Like i said. it is not a moral reason for racism.
Yes Africa,Asia,Native American indians all had a form of Civilization. but the whiteman's civilization and knownledge was far Superior
to other civilization.

Nairaland General › Re: Black Or White Government In Africa... Which Is Better? by blueAgent(m): 12:19pm On Apr 09, 2016
LeSudAfricaine:
well where i come life has certainly been better since the black rule
which place?
Education › Re: Nigerian Student Of Warwick Suffers Racism (Photo) by blueAgent(m): 12:18pm On Apr 09, 2016
mhiz:
Do the whites think they are in any way superior to us. I feel sorry for her sha. #Say no to racism
Doe not a moral reason to justify racism. but
When your race.
White people= all the great scientific, medical
and technological discoveries
That computer you’re on
The software that drives your computer
The Internet & nearly all web applications
Recorded music
Motion picture
TV
Radio
Camera
Telephone
Light bulb
Medicine
Automobile
Rocketry (modern)
Satellite
Spacecraft
Airplane
Skyscraper
Telescope
Printing press
Eyeglasses
Contact lenses
Microwave oven
Metallurgy (most discoveries and methods)
Materials science (plastics, compounds, & most
other synthetics)
95% of medical advancements
95% of life saving pharmaceutical drugs
Modern food preservatives
Most scientific breakthroughs over the past
1000 years
The bulk of Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry,
and Biology
Astronomy (most discoveries and mapping
techniques)
Sea navigation (most advancements)
Discovery of DNA
Genetics (most research)
Microscope
Laser technology and its myriad of uses
Harnessing electricity
Nuclear energy
Wireless technology
Air conditioning devices
Refrigeration
Modern agricultural techniques
Oil and gas discovery and production.
Modern democracy.
Their is a tendency for you . to develop sense of Superiority .
Education › Re: Nigerian Student Of Warwick Suffers Racism (Photo) by blueAgent(m): 11:53am On Apr 09, 2016
Ghost447:
Actually, I won't say they are superior, but certainly, they are ahead of us. Just look at everything that makes life easy for you and tell me where we would have been without them. Even at home here, we are racists, we condemn each others' tribe. Some tribes in Nigeria refer to their fellow citizens as outcasts. What is more degrading than referring to a complete human being as outcast?
Doe not a moral reason to justify racism. but
When your race.
White people= all the great scientific, medical
and technological discoveries
That computer you’re on
The software that drives your computer
The Internet & nearly all web applications
Recorded music
Motion picture
TV
Radio
Camera
Telephone
Light bulb
Medicine
Automobile
Rocketry (modern)
Satellite
Spacecraft
Airplane
Skyscraper
Telescope
Printing press
Eyeglasses
Contact lenses
Microwave oven
Metallurgy (most discoveries and methods)
Materials science (plastics, compounds, & most
other synthetics)
95% of medical advancements
95% of life saving pharmaceutical drugs
Modern food preservatives
Most scientific breakthroughs over the past
1000 years
The bulk of Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry,
and Biology
Astronomy (most discoveries and mapping
techniques)
Sea navigation (most advancements)
Discovery of DNA
Genetics (most research)
Microscope
Laser technology and its myriad of uses
Harnessing electricity
Nuclear energy
Wireless technology
Air conditioning devices
Refrigeration
Modern agricultural techniques
Oil and gas discovery and production.
Modern democracy.
Their is a tendency for you . to develop sense of Superiority .
Nairaland General › Re: Black Or White Government In Africa... Which Is Better? by blueAgent(m): 11:49am On Apr 09, 2016
LeSudAfricaine:
So what you are saying is that i must prove that the black man is not a monkey? .. You are a lost case
Who called black man a monkey?
I said you should prove that we are better ruled by blacks than whites.
Education › Re: Nigerian Student Of Warwick Suffers Racism (Photo) by blueAgent(m): 11:45am On Apr 09, 2016
mandax:
A white racist normally comes from a poor family or broken home, probably has no friends.

The only consolation a white racist draws is believing that his/her white skin makes him/her superior above others of different skin colour.


White racist can be seen as an Adolph Hitler.
Not true. racism is even far more in rich and wealthly
Education › Re: Nigerian Student Of Warwick Suffers Racism (Photo) by blueAgent(m): 11:43am On Apr 09, 2016
LeSudAfricaine:
You are the one who reasons like a monkey,.. I wonder why Nigerians worship white people so much, it is trully sad and pathetic
Doe not a moral reason to justify racism. but

When your race.

White people= all the great scientific, medical
and technological discoveries
That computer you’re on
The software that drives your computer
The Internet & nearly all web applications
Recorded music
Motion picture
TV
Radio
Camera
Telephone
Light bulb
Medicine
Automobile
Rocketry (modern)
Satellite
Spacecraft
Airplane
Skyscraper
Telescope
Printing press
Eyeglasses
Contact lenses
Microwave oven
Metallurgy (most discoveries and methods)
Materials science (plastics, compounds, & most
other synthetics)
95% of medical advancements
95% of life saving pharmaceutical drugs
Modern food preservatives
Most scientific breakthroughs over the past
1000 years
The bulk of Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry,
and Biology
Astronomy (most discoveries and mapping
techniques)
Sea navigation (most advancements)
Discovery of DNA
Genetics (most research)
Microscope
Laser technology and its myriad of uses
Harnessing electricity
Nuclear energy
Wireless technology
Air conditioning devices
Refrigeration
Modern agricultural techniques
Oil and gas discovery and production.
Modern democracy.

Their is a tendency for you . to develop sense of Superiority .
Education › Re: Nigerian Student Of Warwick Suffers Racism (Photo) by blueAgent(m): 11:35am On Apr 09, 2016
LucifersTongue:
If only we understood the basics of human evolution, then we'd realize how utterly meaningless it is to be called a monkey or a nigger or Caucasian. Race is just an arbitrarily chosen classifier in the timescale of human evolution. The differences between various groups of people is far less discontinuous than we think, the human race is richly diverse!
story for the gods
Education › Re: Nigerian Student Of Warwick Suffers Racism (Photo) by blueAgent(m): 11:25am On Apr 09, 2016
mhiz:
How old is America nd how old is Nigeria, I know we have corrupt leaders but I believe that with time Nigeria will get better, we have talents and resources. We just need time to be able to harness all we have, the country is beginning to evolve politically, so with time I believe we'll do better. The so called western countries depend on us for so many things, and they don't solve their problems themselves they depend on us. If u remove all the blacks from the American system, they will crash within days. Its just we Africans that make ourselves believe the whites are better, we are far better than they are, we just need to harness our resources.
I hope I made sense.
Guy you are so dumb.

Whites depend on Africans? gush i laugh. go and google about the biggest ,largest companies in US. highest no of most companies and inventions in US are done and owned by whites.
All the majority black run cities. which where ones successful white runned cities. are now mess becos of black rule. eg Detriot,Baltimore,Philidephia. e.t.c

So Nigerians could build US .but can not refine their own crude oil. Nigerians did not know that they had oil. till the whiteman came and showed them.

Germany,Australia,Canada,New Zealand,Austria,e.t.c intially had no blacks ,but they are among the most developed countries.

Show me a majority black run country that is not third world.

For your information Liberia had their independence in 1847. Haiti in 1804 all black and poor countries. so your argument for time is wrong.
Education › Re: Nigerian Student Of Warwick Suffers Racism (Photo) by blueAgent(m): 11:12am On Apr 09, 2016
Exxit:
your a shame to every black man that died from slavery. You a shame to every tear and pain every black man had been through Cuz of slavery
Slavery didn't originate with 'whites' nor did
it end after it was outlawed in 'white'
countries. For example, Muslims began
buying and selling large numbers of African
slaves 600 years before Europeans did and
continued to do so until at least 100 years
after. The prevalence of 'white' slavery is
also rarely if ever discussed. Between one
and one and a half million white European
sailors and residents of coastal villages were
enslaved by the (Islamic) Barbary pirates.
This included many from Britain itself,
particularly in Devon and Cornwall. These
and other aspects of slavery are rarely, if
ever, discussed or debated because it
doesn't fit the anti-white agenda. Neither
does the fact that it was black (African)
tribal leaders who, during military conquests
of other tribes or states, captured and
enslaved their fellow black Africans then sold
them in the slave markets to the highest
bidder. With slavery being such a lucrative
business wars were often launched with the
sole purpose of enslavement in mind.
Another source came from within the
enslaving societies themselves. Just as Britain
disposed of it's convicts, heretics, debtors
and ne'er do wells by sending them to the
colonies so did the African tribal leaders by
selling them as slaves.
Education › Re: Nigerian Student Of Warwick Suffers Racism (Photo) by blueAgent(m): 11:05am On Apr 09, 2016
Dapsin2901:
I don't care at the end na still niger go collect their Best student, first class and so on
keep dreaming. and the same whites will make more inventions,create bussiness,and impact, in a Society than your 1st class Nigerians
Education › Re: Nigerian Student Of Warwick Suffers Racism (Photo) by blueAgent(m): 10:55am On Apr 09, 2016
Bollinger:
They will learn as soon as Nigerians learn not to be tribalistic. What africans do to themselves is a billion times worse than what whites do in regards to discrimination. Africans are the worst hypocrites on earth.
True talk. Africans are not normal. even people of the same kindred kil themselves over land and envy.
Education › Re: Nigerian Student Of Warwick Suffers Racism (Photo) by blueAgent(m): 10:00am On Apr 09, 2016
musicwriter:
Racists are just dumb people, cause every human being all over the world originated from Africa. White people are just blacks who lost melanin as black people conquered Eurasia, Europe, America, to areas with less sunlight. We literally created white people!.

If you care, go to iTunes, amazon and other digital music stores and get the song- "the lost history" by Africason.

It's very unfortunate our radio stations and OAPs wouldn't get this song playing to enlighten the world. I believe when the African people find out the untold stories and unleash the enormous power on our hands, white people would realize we put them on this planet.
Lie. Origin of man is in Mesopatomia present day iraq. also the location of the Gardern of eden. stop this your Evolution garbage.
if blacks created whites while have they stoped creating whites. you can create whites but cannot refine ordinary fuel for your cars .pathetic
Education › Re: Nigerian Student Of Warwick Suffers Racism (Photo) by blueAgent(m): 9:47am On Apr 09, 2016
mhiz:
Do the whites think they are in any way superior to us. I feel sorry for her sha. #Say no to racism
They not superior ,but more gifted than us.
I refer specifically to Philo’s commentaries
on the notion of Creation in the first chapter
of Genesis (verse 26), to the effect that man
is distinct from and set apart from the
animals and above them, by virtue of being
in the image of God. Not image in the
ordinary sense, but by having this power of
creative reason. That notion of man as being
in the image of God defines all men as
spiritually equal as sovereign individual
persons before the Creator and, among all
right-thinking men, among each other. That
does not mean that men are equal in their
development, but it means they are equal in
their species nature.
Nairaland General › Re: Black Or White Government In Africa... Which Is Better? by blueAgent(m): 9:42am On Apr 09, 2016
You don't see people of other races rushing to live with negroes but you do see lots of negroes running away from their own. Even negroes can't stand themselves and the environments they create.
Nairaland General › Re: Black Or White Government In Africa... Which Is Better? by blueAgent(m): 9:39am On Apr 09, 2016
White guys create wealth,jobs and fortunes for generations while our on people(blacks) loot wealth and destory it. google on wikipedia history of most of the world multinationals and their founders.from Mobil,Chevron,Shell ,Facebook,Google,instagram,Pfizer,procter&Gamble,General Electric,IBM,HP,Microsoft,Walmart.,Baker hughes, even to world largest Aircraft company Boeing.the list is endless.
most of this companies are older than the Almagamation of Nigeria in 1920 to say the least.Our own is politics nothing more no brain to utilize resources within their environment.imagine states like Imo and Bayelsa and many states in Nigeria.do not have any single factory or industry.eg in Bayelsa pure water is brought from Delta state.
yet they have politician and wealthy people but no foresight. i pity Nigeria till we change our mindset nothing will change.even corruption is a product of the mindset.
Nairaland General › Re: Black Or White Government In Africa... Which Is Better? by blueAgent(m): 9:32am On Apr 09, 2016
LeSudAfricaine:
Not another white worship- black self hate thread, always white - good, black- bad, Nigerians and white asss kissing....pathetic
We are here to learn. if they are wrong then disprove it with your facts.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Ten Commandements Preceded Moses by blueAgent(op): 12:12am On Apr 09, 2016
this fulfilled the principle in Proverbs 16:6 , “By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the Lord men depart from evil.” When Abram told King Abimelech that Sarah, his half sister and wife, was merely his sister, he lied—another breaking of the Ninth Commandment. Believing this, Abimelech sent for Sarah. Now notice Genesis 20:3-4 , 6: “But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, you are but a dead man, for the woman which you have taken; for she is a man’s wife. But Abimelech had not come near her: and he said, Lord, will you slay also a righteous nation?…And God said unto him in a dream, Yes, I know that you did this in the integrity of your heart; for I also withheld you from sinning against Me: therefore suffered I you not to touch her.” In this situation, Abimelech would have committed adultery, which is a sin. He would have broken the Seventh Commandment. When Joseph was tempted by the advances of Potiphar’s wife, he “…refused, and said unto his master’s wife, Behold, my master knows not what is with me in the house, and he has committed all that he has to my hand; There is none greater in this house than I; neither has he kept back any thing from me but you, because you are his wife: how then can I do this great wickedness, and sin against God ?” (Gen. 39:8-9 ). Joseph was well aware that adultery was sin. This occurred about 250 years before the law was officially presented to Israel at Mount Sinai! The Lesson of Manna During their march to the Promised Land, God told the Israelites to gather their daily amount of manna each morning. On the morning before the weekly Sabbath there would be enough for both days. This was because no manna would appear on the Sabbath, God’s day of rest. God intended that the Israelites rest on the Sabbath, rather than spend time gathering manna. This account is given in Exodus 16. In verse 28, after some of the people deliberately broke the Sabbath by attempting to gather manna, God told Moses, “How long refuse you [Israel] to keep My commandments and My laws?” Now notice verses 29-30: “See, for that the Lord has given you the Sabbath, therefore He gives you on the sixth day the bread of two days; abide you every man in his place, let no man go out of his place on the seventh day. So the people rested on the seventh day.” So, the Fourth Commandment was in effect before the Law was given at Mount Sinai. By the time Israel entered the land of Canaan, the nations there had “run the full course”—they had surpassed the threshold of moral collapse, much like nations have done today. God knew that this would happen and had told Abram about it, over 400 years earlier: “And you shall go to your fathers in peace; you shall be buried in a good old age. But in the fourth generation they [Abram’s seed—the nation Israel] shall come here again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full” (Gen. 15:15-16 ). Here, the word “iniquity” comes from the Hebrew word avon, which means “perversity, mischief or sin.” If there had been no law in force, there would not have been any iniquity or sin for the Amorites, or any other nation, to commit. Refer to Leviticus 18:3 , 19-30 for more description of the iniquity and abominations committed by the Canaanites. They included sacrificing—murdering—their children in the fire of the false god Molech, every form of adultery and sexual perversity, and profaning the name of God, among other sins. Take a look at the pre-Flood world: “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually” ( Gen. 6:1-3 , 5-6 ). The word “wickedness” used here comes from the Hebrew word rah , which means “exceedingly evil.” So wicked was mankind that verse 6 tells us, “And it repented the Lord that He had made man on the earth, and it grieved Him at His heart.” This wickedness brought every conceivable type of sin and blatant disregard for the sanctity of life. These sins were imputed—pointed out—by the laws of God—the Ten Commandments, which existed from the creation of mankind. These examples show that all the Ten Commandments preceded Moses. From Adam to Moses, all men had sinned—had broken God’s laws, the Ten Commandments. That is why God commended Abraham, saying, “Abraham obeyed My voice, and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes and My laws” ( Gen. 26:5 ).
Christianity Etc › The Ten Commandements Preceded Moses by blueAgent(op):
DID THE TEN COMMANDMENTS PRECEDE
MOSES?
Most leaders of professing Christianity insist
that the core of God’s spiritual Law—the Ten
Commandments—is done away. Repeating
what they have been taught without requiring
proof, they call it the “law of Moses” and
claim that it was abolished by Jesus Christ’s
sacrifice. But they do not know the difference
between the Levitical sacrificial rituals, the
law of Moses and the law of God.
A combination of ignorance and an attempt
to minimize the Ten Commandments as
“dispensational” (obligatory for a limited
period of time) has caused most to believe
the Ten Commandments did not exist prior to
Moses receiving them on Mount Sinai. Is this
true? Is this what the Bible teaches? While
other chapters of this book will address
whether the New Testament requires
obedience to these marvelous laws, our
purpose here is to examine the period from
Creation to Moses. Keeping in mind that
scripture cannot be broken, what scriptures
can be examined for proof?
Law of Moses or God’s Law?
The Ten Commandments were never referred
to as the law of Moses, but rather the law of
God. First, understand this! The law of Moses
consisted of (1) the civil laws, which were
statutes and judgments that Moses relayed
to the people from God, recorded in Exodus
21-23 and in the remaining books of the law,
and (2) the ritualistic laws (or Greek: ergon )
that were added later, summarized in
Hebrews 9:10 . They were ordinances
regulating the job of the tribe of Levi in
temple service, sacrifices ( Leviticus 1-7 ) and
associated functions. The word ergon means
“works,” as in the “works of the law” (such as
in Galatians 2:16 ). This refers to the labor
involving the Levitical rituals that were
abolished by Christ’s sacrifice.
The Ten Commandments were already in
force long before they were officially given
to Israel at Mount Sinai and this will be
demonstrated. In fact, these commandments
have existed since the creation of man. The
Ten Commandments were never part of the
law of Moses (addressed more fully later in
the chapter) or the Levitical sacrificial
system. The civil laws and sacrifices were
based on God’s commands, which constitute
the core of His laws. Thus, the Ten
Commandments precede and transcend any
and every lesser law or practice based upon
them—statutes, judgments, precepts, and
ordinances.
The Ten Commandments are God’s spiritual
laws ( Rom. 7:12 , 14). They are just as active
as the physical laws of gravity and inertia.
Just as breaking physical laws results in
physical consequences, breaking spiritual
laws results in spiritual consequences.
Sin Defined
Most human beings either do not know of or
do not like to be reminded of I John 3:4 ,
which defines sin: “Whosoever commits sin
transgresses also the law: for sin is the
transgression of the law.” As the subject
develops, you will come to see (in stages)
the central connection between sin and the
law.
Romans 6:23 states that “the wages of sin is
death.” Romans 5 explains, “Wherefore, as
by one man sin entered into the world, and
death by sin; and so death passed upon all
men, for that all have sinned : (For until the
law sin was in the world: but sin is not
imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless
death reigned from Adam to Moses , even
over them that had not sinned after the
similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is
the figure of Him that was to come)” ( vs.
12-14).
In other words, Adam sinned. Sin is not
imputed—does not apply—where there is no
law (carefully read Romans 4:15 ). Death
reigned from Adam to Moses. (Remember,
death is the penalty for sin, which is defined
as the transgression of the law.) The only
way that Adam and his descendants could sin
—break God’s spiritual law—is if God’s Law
already existed! Without this law in place, no
one could be guilty of sin.
Instead of rejecting sin, modern religionists
reject the law. They view the law as a burden
—they want to be free from keeping it. But
notice the key lessons found in Romans 7:7 :
“What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God
forbid. No, I had not known sin, but by the
law: for I had not known lust, except the law
had said, You shall not covet.” It is not the
law that is at fault—and Paul is clearly citing
one of the Ten Commandments—but sin. God
reveals to us what sin is. He does this by His
perfect law. On his own, man cannot discover
God’s perfect law. God has to reveal and
teach it to us.
Man’s First Sin
In the Garden of Eden, God talked to Adam
and gave him clear, understandable
instructions. Adam needed this. He was an
adult with an adult mind, but God had to
reveal to him the spiritual boundaries that
Adam could not discover on his own, without
breaking God’s laws. Genesis 2:15 states,
“And the Lord God took the man, and put
him into the garden of Eden to dress it and
to keep it. And the Lord God commanded the
man, saying, Of every tree of the garden you
may freely eat: but of the tree of the
knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat
of it: for in the day that you eat thereof you
shall surely die.”
Adam was given instructions on how to
maintain the garden. He was also
commanded not to eat of the tree of the
knowledge of good and evil (not to decide
for himself what is right or wrong), and was
told exactly what the penalty would be for
disobeying this command. In effect, he was
presented with what would be the same
penalty described in the New Testament: “the
wages of sin is death” ( Rom. 6:23 ).
God revealed to Adam, and to his wife, Eve,
right knowledge about how to live. But He
gave them the freedom to decide whether or
not they would follow His way. This was free
moral agency, which God has given to all
mankind.
Satan, in the form of a serpent, told Eve that
if she took the fruit of the forbidden tree,
“You shall not surely die: for God does know
that in the day you eat thereof, then your
eyes shall be opened, and you shall be as
gods, knowing good and evil” ( Gen. 3:4-5 ).
Being gullible in the face of Satan’s shrewd
tactics, Eve fell for his deception and ate
from the tree, as did Adam.
Adam sinned by acting against God’s
command. He broke God’s Law. In doing so,
he became the servant of the one whom he
obeyed—Satan. This principle is explained in
Romans 6:16 : “Know you not, that to whom
you yield yourselves servants to obey, his
servants you are to whom you obey; whether
of sin unto death, or of obedience unto
righteousness?”
Whoever or whatever someone obeys and
serves is his god. In this case, Adam and Eve
broke the First Commandment by putting
another god before the Creator God . In doing
so, they also broke the Fifth Commandment,
by dishonoring their Parent , in the sense that
Adam was a created son of God (Luke 3:38 ).
Their sin also involved stealing (the Eighth
Commandment), in that they took something
that was not theirs. Besides this, Eve lusted
for the forbidden fruit. Lusting is coveting,
which breaks the Tenth Commandment.
Breaking one commandment leads to
breaking all of them. This is precisely what
the apostle James expressed in James 2:10 :
“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and
yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.”
God’s laws are interrelated and intricately
woven together—if you break one, you
eventually break them all. Sin always spreads.
In Genesis 4 , Adam’s first son, Cain, became
angry against his brother Abel, because God
accepted Abel’s sacrifice, but not Cain’s.
Notice how God admonished Cain in verses
6-7 : “And the Lord said unto Cain, Why are
you wroth [angry]? and why is your
countenance fallen? If you do well, shall you
not be accepted? and if you do not well, sin
[impossible without the Law] lies at the door.
And unto you shall be his desire, and you
shall rule over him.” Cain murdered and
broke the Sixth Commandment.
When someone is in the wrong frame of
mind, sin does lie at the door, waiting to
happen, because sinful thoughts lead to
sinful actions. God commands us to rule over
sin—to control those pulls and impulses to
commit sin. Cain murdered Abel and lied to
God about it. This is a direct violation of the
Ninth Commandment, which forbids “bearing
false witness against your neighbor.” Cain
had sinned and he knew it. This happened a
few decades after Adam had first sinned.
Adam and Eve’s expanding family knew that
sin was the breaking of God’s Law, or God
would not have held them accountable.
Other Commandments in Force Before
Sinai
The Bible gives examples of each of the Ten
Commandments being kept before Moses’
time. When God called Jacob to return to
Bethel, where God had appeared to him
approximately 21 years before, Jacob warned
his people, “Put away the strange gods that
are among you , and be clean, and change
your garments: and let us arise, and go up to
Bethel; and I will make there an altar unto
God, who answered me in the day of my
distress, and was with me in the way which I
went” (Gen. 35:2-3 ). Jacob knew that God
forbade idolatry—breaking the Second
Commandment. By telling his household to
put away their idols,
Politics › Re: Can This Ever Happen In Nigeria,London-based Nigerian Ask?(photo) by blueAgent(m): 9:53pm On Apr 05, 2016
Alani86:
You spoke putting your brain on hold. Who are you to say "It will never ever happen"? And what senseless, baseless and contradicting point did you give; "Population of 180m and largest economy in Africa"? What's the population of China?

What has being black got to do with doing what's right and being honest? Is your own brain black while theirs is white? Is your mind black while theirs is white? Stop being stupid! This as nothing to do with color/creed/race! It's about refusing to sell our birthrights when the opportunity shows itself; refuse to be an Esau, who reduced himself all because of porridge!
Lol..... U are far from Reality . wakeup!

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