₦airaland Forum

iamoyindamola:
But if reverse is the case, soldiers from the govt will start moving around
Miyetti will threaten he'll hell and fullfil it
MURIC(That hypocrite group) will complain how Muslims are been slaughtered
Yet none of these 3 mentioned have say anything.
Sunday and kanu are bigger problems for us

Honestly it's the hypocrisy for me

Havertz10:
i'm only continuing femi's point that it's the only solution, whatever plan the government had was rejected in a tribalist manner, I didn't follow the news well but I got the main gist

I don't know the full details of the government's plan but i'm talking based on the theme of the proposal


The governors could have renegotiated the proposal or even set up a think tank to analyze the maths behind a system like that and find positives, options plenty but each state used it to beat their chest in a tribalist manner

Just saw this. Herdsmen know that the system has to change, they are willing to listen to proposals

Why can't these people dialogue?

Now here's the problem ; you didn't get the full gist about Femi's proposal neither did u get the full gist about why the governors rejected it, but yet u are stanning it. If u must must know, Femi's proposal is a foolish one that isn't in line with modern dictates.

Femi is suggesting that governors make available lands within their states to be used by herders as ranches .....:the governors knowing they aren't obliged to provide such lands for privayr owned businesses turned the proposal down, they believe if farmers can buy lands and cultivate their crops why can't herders do same.

If u don't know, there are farm settlements in places like Epe, Imota and other areas in Lagos where people buy vast amount of lands to cultivate.( I know this because my boss in the office operates a farm in one of such places)

Now tell me what is tribalistic in telling people to run their private businesses in line with modern best practices?

Havertz10:
but it's TRUE, femi adesina might be very bais but he says it as it is

Why can't southerners allow northerners to have ranches, so many governors were tribalistic on this issue, same people will say one Nigeria but a solution that integrates them and another tribe, they remember their tribal identities

If they are worried, it can be private sector owned ranches, each cattle owner will pay a fair amount monthly to the ranch, they will be fed at the ranch, at the end of the contract, he gets his fully grown cattle and decides what he wants to do with it

It will grow a different sector of the economy, prices of meat will drop and so many people will gain employment, why send a single guy to risk his life in the forest to feed your cattles when you can pay a company to handle everything for a cheaper price with peace of mind, those herdsmen can be redirected into another sector of the economy that can utilize their skillset, how many herdmens dey self? They aren't more than 2000 there will be no damage to those families in the north, everybody is getting a fair price and everybody sleeps at night

There will be competition among ranches, you will even create a haulage sector of that industry to transport cattles or feeds

Vast amount of lands will get inhabited, developments will grow in those hot spots and pour into the national economy

I really don't understand you. If anybody wants a ranch he can easily buy the vast amount of land he needs and have his ranch right on that land.

Why should anybody give up his land for an herder to site his ranch there? Why exactly? Care to explain?

Ibime:
That's just political storytelling as far as I am concerned.

What the Govt won't do is allow communities attack Fulani Herdsmen on the presumption of them being killers

Even the Buhari you are talking about, his hometown is overrun with bandits and his people being killed daily.

One must separate emotions from logic.

If that is how u see it, no problem....Well the way I see it is this; the government should not sit and watch people killed, lose limbs to Herdsmen attacks and do little or nothing to bring perpetrators to book.

Do u know the attack on Igangan community in Oyo State has really not been addressed by the federal goverment?

I mean a community was attacked, people killed and even the palace of the traditional ruler was set ablaze and yet the federal government keeps mum. Then u wonder how people like Sunday Igboho gets to rally so many people including a professor to believe in his agitations. Whether u like it or not, the president's body language in all of this is a major factor in stoking up fire of disintegration.

Ibime:
The guns is a fall out from Libya and opening of weapons trafficking routes from that side.

Same is happening all over Mali, Burkina Faso, Niger, Chad, Mauritania etc

It's a thing for the guns being fallout from the Libya, then it's another thing for the government taking a stand that implies the Herders aren't in the wrong for attacking their host communities, but that they are gods that should be allowed to do as they please and appeased with offerings such as free lands to graze on.

Amoto94:
I agree with you that in the past that the herders don't move about with assault riffles but with sticks and machetes, the guns used recently are purchased by the owners of the cattle and handed over to the herders as cattle rustling became prevalent (another failure in leadership in providing the needed security). Unfortunately these weapons are now being used to perpetuate crimes like kidnapping and armed robbery by some of the herders which wasn't what the purchase was meant for.
As for miyetti Allah there are two of them one is very calm and calculative the other one are composed mainly of people who are not helping things with their utterances and this is the one that mostly gain media attention due to how sensational their statements are.

If the bold is true, then maybe the government needs To do more by dealing with these set of people for incitement.....u see, if the government keeps allowing these set of people make reckless statements and then have DSS invite people who make similar statements from other parts of the country it shows nothing but a bias on the part of the government that can be interpreted as persecution of people from certain parts of the country.

The President's spokespersons ain't helping matters too. Juts like nezzar pointed out, imagine someone like Femi Adesina saying things like people should rather give up their lands for ranching than die as a result of herders-farmers crisis.....Does that sound like a logical way of addressing a crisis such as the herders-farmers crisis?

Amoto94:
As far back as 2002 I remember people from my hometown clashing with herders for eating people's farm produce and it even led to serious reprisals that the king had to wade in to stop the crisis, and OBJ was the president and late Prince Audu the governor. The issue predates this present administration and for people to start saying they're backed by the President is pure politicking.
Anywhere you find pastoralists and farmers living together without proper measures put in place by them on resources utilisation there's going to be trouble.
Most of the cattle herded by the pastoralists are owned by some powerful people who are indigenous. Out of 100 less than 5 is owned by the herder, the herder is like a salesman looking over the business of his boss.
Here are the factors driving the herders towards the south; desertification, urbanization, access to market, and insecurity. It is failure of the leaders across board in addressing some of the listed challenges and the mindset of some of the herders and host community that's causing the problem.
I have written on how a colony/ranch will solve some if not all of these problems between farmers and herders because the present system is not working for all.

Most of the things u wrote here are true, the only angle u failed to capture in this current crisis between Herdsmen and farmers is Herdsmen carrying Automatic weapons, plotting and carrying out deadly attacks against host communities and torching villages.

Herdsmen have always clashed with farmers right from OBJ's tenure but they've not been known to carry automatic weapons, neither have we seen miyetta Allah ( the umbrella body of herders) not condemning attacks orchestrated by herders but rather claiming the land belongs to us all.

You see during my NYSC prior to Buhari's emergence as preident elect I encountered Fulani Herdsmen in the north west and they don't carry more than a stick and sheathed cutlass while herding their cow.

How herders suddenly started bearing automatic weapons, burning down farms, annihilating a whole community because they are challenged by farm owners is something this present government needs to answer and find solution to. You should understand people who feel these Herdsmen are emboldened by their national patron being president of Nigeria is just people saying things the way they see it. If this is not investigated and a logical explanation given, trust me we haven't seen the end of this herders-farmers crisis.

So u see it doesn't necessarily has to do with politicking.

iamoyindamola:
Here we go

I learnt we got him for 8 million euros including add-ons....Well not bad for a back-up LB

I want to keep an open mind on him, let's see how he performs when given the chance. I hope we sign an AM at least and a replacement for Xhaka if he's eventually sold

Nezzjnr:
Buhari Kinsmen can't invade everywhere na.....

Everyone is just waiting for this Government to relinquish power come 2023.

It may interest you to know that places where farming can be practiced to the fullest are either underpoliced or not policed at all. I know of places like Imota, and other places on the outskirts of ikorodu here in Lagos where farming is practiced on a large scale and the farmers have experienced cases of frequent kidnap and ransom payments in the past one year.

It's not just Herdsmen issues but a general insecurity problem that has not been addressed by government at different levels ( not just federal Govt alone), but yet we decry why people abandon farming and prices of food items keep sky rocketing.

Waiting for Buhari to relinquish power in 2023 will not even solve the problem because by then the criminals holding sway now would've gained ground and become government to people in those localities. Look at the case of Boko Haram in 2014, they were hoisting flags in some parts Iof the northeast and we all thought with the emergence of Buhari as the president they will all be crushed....fast forward to today and what do u have? Boko haram/ISWAP/whatever change of name they've done are now appointing governors within the northeast.

Any government that wants to encourage farming should first make the farmers feel safe. Just like afro doc said, the psychological energy people are expending to eke a living in this country is damn too much.

Wàhálà be like Błaszczykowski

cutiereborn:
Chef Preston, where is my box of assorted donut goodies?
MariahAngel, where is our spicy plantian and scrambled eggs?
Cococandy, that your spicy jollof rice and steaks?
It's my Birthday!!! �
I am greatful for my life, the one growing inside of me and all.

Happy birthday mama

nnekaike:
I can eat this all day!

Me too

aboyaji:
This is one of my best meals. Beans and corn... We call it bee-nkor in Igbo.

I guess we share the same taste then. I so much love this meal too. In fact, I can say it's my best meal along with rice and beans cooked together from a very young age.

I really don't like maize on the cob, but anytime it's corn season I must eat this beans and corn before it goes out of season.

This England people sef

Earlier today : Corn & beans meal + fried fish

This Italy national anthem Na mixtape

Akposy:
This was a staple meal for most of us that grew up in the ghetto street of Lagos. While in secondary school, my favorite location was Mama Amudo's pot; hers was cheaper and more home tasting than the others. At night, I secretly patronize Iya Taju, my father must not catch you eating out. Iya Taju stew was spicy �..e day burst brain mehn . May her soul rest in peace.

Cheers to recreated memories of rice, beans and hot stew. Kindly bring your clean spoon lets fellowship in good food

Damn!!!

This too gorgeous to behold

Oasis007:
This is madness, Messi collecting €1.3m per week? For what exactly?! Is he the only one on the Pitch for Barcelona?!

Instead of begging Messi to stay for more years, they should rather free him to cut-down their Debts.

I’ve known for a about 2 years now that those running Barca don’t really know anything about finance and or management .

The last transfer window they spent the whole period begging Messi to stay instead of getting busy in the market offloading players with excessive wages and getting fresh legs that cost lesss to replace them. They should’ve sold Messi for good money to Guardiola and his sugar daddies in the city of Manchester; they should’ve sold some other players like Griezmann and even some of their useless CB’s.

They probably think Messi will play for ever and he will never grow old. Now even if Messi stays he can’t give them the same performance of last 4-5 years ,yet they will be cash strapped not being able to improve the squad more than what they have on ground.

If a team like Athletics does good business in the market , they should still deal with that Barca team this coming year

timbros:
And who is in that Spanish attack? Morata? Moreno? Or who?

Honestly, its only Italy's attack that can drag that game to extra time.

The old guard no come to play...

The same guys that scored 10 goals in 2 matches bro.

Morata misses chances but he’s been really worrying defenders leaving the other players upfront space to do the Lord’s work .

timbros:
Enough of the politics/religion talks please. Let's discuss football....

Italy vs Spain

Denmark vs England

What are your predictions? Who will lift the trophy?

I can't predict actual score lines but I predict Italy to overpower Spain. England to edge Denmark.

Italy to win a England vs Italy final.

Spain will will edge out Italy this night; Its going to be a case of Spain's attack getting the best of Italy's defense.

Greatihex:
BlueRayDick, izzou, seunoj, donstan18.

I have read your posts and it weaks me.
Many of your submissions are coming from a position of ignorance and inability to sit and properly analyse the situation at hand and come up with a workable solution or conclusion. This is what MNK himself calls poor reasoning of the black man.

It will be better that you hear some things from the horses mouth himself, then you can tell what you think about what he said if he is right or not.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYhsLpRO7m8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6TLyH4tlJ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI95DOvNb8Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cx9-1QbHnI

Mind you, MNK is human and is bound to make mistakes as a human but for the ultimate objective, he has been 100% consistent and ready to pay the sacrifice. That is why he has the followship he has.

For those saying that MNK is followed by illiterates listen to this man


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztalc7gQ1AE

For your info, Sunday Igboho is just like the face of the Oduduwa agitation. Those that are championing it are behind the scene. They are the ones that are in alliance with IPOB, the ones they swore oath with not to ever do anything against each other, the ones they trained their volunteer forces together with to fight against fulani invaders.

The day MNK Nigerian politics, know this, those people you think are his huge followers will leave him. I will be the first. You can't be part of what you condemn. Ask Sowore and Ojukwu how it ended for them.

GUY ! Honestly I didn't know you are neck-deep into this Biafra stuff mehn.... I personally don't like engaging those who have invested much time consuming the toxic materials Kanu dishes out every now and then, If I had known how deep u are into this thing I would've avoided this discussion all along o.

I mean I said I wasn't going to watch the video intially then I watched the first video and in it Nnamdi kanu was saying things like ..." The day I tell you people to go and hug yoruba people is the day I derail, ....I urge you to kill me because I'm no longer worthy to exist"..... This means Yoruba's, the governors, senators and others he mentioned in the video are the Igbo people's enemies. .... I can only imagine how bitter those of you who listen to Kanu are and how twisted you are after listening to all this garbage.

Whether you like it or not, the only legal way for you to get to see changes is to vote for your preferred candidate and hold them accountable. All the hate, violence and terrorism being propagated by Kanu and his believers are actually punishable under the law of Nigeria which we are all subject to irrespective of whoever is the president. Just look at what has been going on in the east where properties owned by ur fellow kinsmen are being burnt, destroyed others being killed because they have an opposing view when it comes to biafra; does this make sense to you? Is that acceptable in any Modern society ? Do u not think someone like Kanu will have Okorocha, Orji Uzor kalu, Ugwuanyi etc murdered if he feels they have an opposing view ? Do u align with that ? Is that part of the sacrifice u are willing to make along with kanu ?

airmark:
Me and you know that's not what Dayo was thinking when he posted that. I see this as just a mental gymnastics to find excuse where there's none.

This is the reason I didn't respond to your tag on that post; cos no matter what I say u will term it as the bolded. When Raumdeuter is online I'm sure he will explain what he means by that post.

afrodoc2:
The guy ran away in boxers leaving all the airheads in his house to suffer. I am not surprised sha. Only airheads can believe in that man’s jazz.

It’s really funny how someone who has threatened to deal with any law enforcement agent that comes calling for his arrest suddenly decided to run as far as his legs could carry him when they accepted his challenge . If he had carried along his “believers “ along I would’ve agreed that at least even if he’s a fake juju man , he was honorable enough to not leave his comrades behind .

I’m even beginning to think that Mc Oluomo we all despise seems more honorable than this Sunday guy. When shiiit hit the fan at their apc rally during the last election ; MC took one for the street got stabbed and now he’s back on the street “kingin” .... Make Sunday even wait make dem test gun fess he do Isain Bolt

Sulele04:
https://www.nairaland.com/6636196/yoruba-nation-rally-policeman-raises

cc blueraydick raumdeuter airmark segedinho bombblacks abeg come see something

I don’t know who is the funniest between you , the op of that thread or the blogger operating “matazarsing “ blog.

First a blogger cooks up a story about police officers suffering spiritual attacks as a result of the disrupted protest on Saturday; he referenced some nonexistent voice note( which he can’t even claim to be verified ) , then adds a video to the post that proves absolutely nothing. If u don’t know , I visited the so called source of the news and I watched the so called video evidence but I didn’t see anything that suggests what he’s claiming happened in the video.

As if that was not enough somebody brought that same post to nairaland claiming it is irrefutable evidence of officer’s suffering spiritual attacks following their action on Saturday ... Honestly it is laughable u are tagging me to this .

One question ; why is Odumosu that ordered the merciless beating of yeye osun, the jazz men and the awede werisha still the police commissioner ? One would’ve thought he would lose his voice and his hands he used to order the brutal clampdown on these juju men and women ..... why is the juju going to worry the unknown/non existent officers when the well known Odumosu is there for the juju to make example of ?

Please make it make sense ! Abeg

If not that religion is a sensitive matter generally all over the world and Nigeria in particular , I would’ve suggested that government looks into candles being used at religious centers where there’s a chance someone might be holding a perfume oil or some other inflammable “spiritual items”

I mean look at the celestial guy that died from burns he suffered when the candle lighted around him caught fire when he was sprayed with spiritual perfumes. That could’ve been avoidable . But then let’s not rule out arson in this case of TB Joshua tho , someone might be out there trying to put them out of business outrightly .

Hopefully the authorities will investigate this incident tho

Greatihex:
Well, go to your village let us see how many people that will come out to welcome you.

This is really not an intelligent thing to say.

Nnamdi Kanu openly calls Yoruba derogatory names , feels all Hausas don’t deserve to live because the political arrangement on ground Favours their tribe and he thinks any Igbo/southeast/south-south person who doesn’t believe in his course is an enemy of other Igbo people.

Whether it’s Buhari ,Obasanjo or Atiku that is Nigeria’s President none of them will allow elements like Nnamdi Kanu blackmail them into handing over the independence of a certain region to people like Kanu/Igboho. Before you argue this , please read the article in the link below that talked about how obasanjo arrested non violent MASSOB members in 2004 for arranging just a football match as part of the Biafra struggles:

https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/fr/node/221544

If Obasanjo’s government could clamp down on Ralph’s non violent MASSOB then , just imagine what he will do to Kanu who openly preaches violence and hate all in the name of agitation.

Your village is not the whole Nigeria , so saying he should go to his village and see how many people will welcome his myopic and not really cool for someone who wants his people to be taken serious when discussing national issues. If u read the article up there u will see that this issue of agitation based on marginalization no be today and like Izzou was rightly pointed out there’s need to test the popularity of these sentiments at the poll. Ojukwu did and came 3rd at the 2003 polls . It will interest you to know that Obasanjo swept all the 5 Southeastern states along with the south south.

I understand how the actions and inactions of the current Buhari led FG when it comes to Fulani herdsmen and security issues in general has further fanned the embers of disunity and discord amongst the people of this country , but trust me no government will give in to what Nnamdi is asking particularly with the way he’s going about it. Same with Sunday Igboho

Sulele04:
So it is because of secret passage Dss, and soldiers were unable to get him after surrounding his house.

Next joke please .

3 times now Dss has failed to get Igboho an ordinary man, if you no shame for Dss I shame for them .

You keep labeling him a criminal, yet you are unable to provide his criminal records.

I no get strength for una recycled argument here . Let’s wait for Sunday igboho to go and rescue his “bullet proof “ and comrades with his juju fess .

Yeah. My project aided my area of specialization and a pursued getting employed in that sector of the industry.

The job interview panel was so impressed how as a fresher I discussed their day to day business and even gave recommendations . Later when I got the job I was told how two members of the panel claimed if any other candidate was employed it would be an injustice to me.

Till date I’m grateful to my project supervisor who stressed me out and made sure I put in so much work in the project

Sulele04:
Why did Dss fail to get Sunday Igboho after surrounding his house, why can't you answer it.

Why are they always allowing him "rAn FOr HiS lIfE", where his house occupants the target not him .

Ran from Modakeke, Ran from Dss. Anything that makes you sleep well at night .

Ask the man himself... shey Na me build him own to know whether he has a safe passage hidden somewhere there?

The question should be why he didn’t deal with the tens of officers that came calling when he had boasted he was going to deal with them in their hundreds ?

If u don’t have answer to that other than a criminal suddenly becoming a law abiding citizen who fears being labeled a murderer , then I don’t even any energy to waste again. Allow someone else come with another perspective to this discuss Abeg

airmark:

This may not be funny to you but very funny to me because i saw the video, unless you were there.



OK, Minister of Defence Dick.



So over 100 operatives just came to chase him out of his house after allegedly surrounding his house. Larride must be a learner where you are.

U find the whole thing funny because u are not like those guys in his house who gullibly believed Sunday is “Oosha” who will save this them with his “powers” when law enforcement agents come calling. Guess what ? Igboho ran for his life.

Well I don’t blame those guys tho , they are poor students of history . Sunday ran from Modakeke ; he’s only doing what he does when the shiit hits the fan grin
He can still redeem himself tho, If his juju does not involve violence like u want us to believe by not harming the Soldiers and DSS officers, maybe he can use his “civil juju “ to change the heart of the judge that will try his arrested comrades in court so they can be freed

Wrong post

Sulele04:
Have you been to Modakeke before.

Do you know that there is a place in Modakeke named after him, till tommorow his name can never be forgotten in Modakeke history. From the Modakeke war to how he defended Modakeke king after the war against rebel youth.

I did not say he is a saint, if he commited any crime take him to the court ffs.

All the media sponsored lies nah waste of time.

You asked for evidences/victims of his crimes, I have given u just that. Now it is media sponsored lies

Well now he has serious crime hanging on his neck ranging from resisting arrest, gun running, felony and whatever DSS will deem fit to add to the charge sheet anytime he appears on their radar