₦airaland Forum

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Nope, the Arabs are planning for a post oil economy.

Far from it. Their football is decades behind the real world's.

I think they are planning to go far in the world cup; they want to stop conceding 8-0 in world cup matches and go further in the knockout stages

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The league will eventually end up as the Chinese league did back then.

What grows a league is also your ability to export players from it. How many players from Saudi are in the spotlight?[/color]

I don't even these people have taken time to watch their matches to see how shitty their league is. U go see defenders go stand like training cones while attackers dey move past them

Like u rightly said, their league will go back to being shiiit after some time just like the Chinese.

Personally I think best they can achieve in the nearest possible future is getting players that will naturalize and carry them to knockout stages of world cup

Ibime:
Minimum wage in your day was out of sync with the median wage. Bottle of coke was already retailing for N50 in 2000 when you went to Uni, so unless you are telling me many Nigerians earned the equivalent of only 5 bottles of coke, the minimum wage was arbitrary

Na why I no wan continue the discussion . During that period the economy was stable to a large extent , not so many people Nigerians get their salary from government accounts as civil servants .

Like u always point out, the exchange rate was fixed for so many years such that those who engaged in importation businesses were not always lamenting about fluctuation in exchange rate like we have now. So nobody was increasing general prices of goods and services every now and then. Shebi it’s when the there’s continuous rise in general prices of commodities generally labour will come out and start agitating for increase in minimum wage .

Parents on meagre salary can afford to promise children who take first position in class treat of taking them to Mr Biggs or BATA on the island year after year . I’m not saying it was all El dorado then , but things were fairly stable to an extent (unlike what we have now )

WhoDeyHause:
This is the reason why only airmark can successfully do eternal gidigbo with him. Only him has the stamina for it. Tuale egbon raumdeuter.🙌

It’s exhausting

raumdeuter:
Minimum wage is an indicator of the purchasing power of the people. A worker who earns 10000 can only spend 10000

Whether its in 1970 or 1990 or 2023.

Its the money people earned that they will use to pay school fees, A minimum wage worker in my time used 8 times of his salary to send his kid to Ife, you think that was easy for him?

You see why your argument is not supported by numbers but by emotions. I can go ask my uncle you bought a brand new car for N1500 so why cant I but a car with N1500 today

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raumdeuter:
Can you give us the price Akpabio paid in Unical for his degree and how much was the minimum wage at that time?

Almost everyone knows minimum wage has never been the basis for determining whether there's economic prosperity or not in Nigeria

Minimum wage in Nigeria has always been a product of how the labour leaders can drag government and how benevolent the government wants to be. It's not like minimum wage determines anything in this country. I won't be drawn into a pointless argument of multiplying minimum wage by any multiplier and measuring school fees with it.

As for Akpabio school fees, those who attended school during his time should know. I don't .

The crux of the matter is; those wanting to do away with subsidy on education have enjoyed it themselves, they do not wish to cut government's frivolous spendings but think the common man should understand. That's insensitivity if u ask me

MorataFC:
Obi has been on the radar to be president or Vice President in the last five years Bola just tried it this year and won.

The same Tinubu that wanted to be Buhari’s vice in 2015 when CPC and ACN merged but for the fear of Muslim muslim ticket ?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]The painful part is how they want the poor to endure, while they live their luxurious lives

Nigeria is broke, Nigeria is broke, yet we have 110 billion for Judiciary and NASS.

We are broke, yet we are creating more ministries and prayer points are no longer submitted to Reverend fathers. They are now sent to mail boxes.

Of all the trillions and quadrillions saved since June, they cannot even increase the minimum wage.

Everything should be subsidised in Nigeria. That is the only gain of the common man[/color]

Akpabio the senate president attended UNICAL
at a subsidized rate o. Today he’s the number 3 man in a government that is saying it cannot continue to subsidize tertiary education yet he’s to use 1 billion naira to buy cars alone

raumdeuter:
Lets analyze the privilege you claimed I enjoyed

I matriculated during the days of Abacha when I paid about 2k school fees as a fresher (accommodation 590, tuition -N1590)
Minimum wage was N250

That was the amount paid in Ife which was way cheaper than UI or UNILAG. I think UI increased their fees to between 3k and 5K which led to a riot when Arisekolas car was burnt

Now adjust for inflation and tell me what should Ife school fees amount to now

I hope you will come up with the Maths and explain how you arrived at the numbers

My own Math says I paid 8 times the minimum wage

Now what is 8 times the minimum wage currently before we factor inflation

First and foremost let me say this : when I say u are talking from a privileged position what i mean is u attended varsity like everyone of us .

We may be very young then , but we get elderly ones in the family who schooled that time and the family could afford to pay the fees irrespective of whatever the minimum wage was.

Trying to smuggle minimum wage and inflation rate into the discussion is just trying to manipulate stats just to make a point .

The koko here is; whatever the inflation rate is today our leaders who enjoyed subsidized education are fully aware of it yet they do not cut frivolous spendings on luxurious items in a time of austerity ; yet they want they common man to pay through their nose for what they themselves enjoyed at a subsidized rate.

Me I won’t support such .

Please don’t see me saying “ U are speaking from a privileged position “ as an attack on u or anything of such . It’s not .

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Like.... It didn't even make it to an exemption list at the tribunal.

Okay, Obi and Atiku, your case is baseless, but you are right about discrepancies in Rivers, even though it is not enough to cancel an election..Nothing like that.

Na why i dey laugh when i dey read all those "Hold your leaders accountable" talks.[/color]

Make those ones just dey play .

izzou:
[color=royalblue]There was a guy here that supported APC and he was a student.

I can't remember that moniker.

I really hope he pulls through in these times.

Us wey don graduate since no know wetin God do for us.[/color]

Na why I tell Raum that time say he dey talk from position of privilege .

As I dey, I don read all the book I wan read for Nigeria but I won’t support any policy that makes schooling difficult for those coming behind . It just doesn’t feel right .

Most of the people in government now claiming government cannot afford to continue to subsidize education also enjoyed subsidized tertiary education. Just look at that girl in the video , I don’t even what her parents will sell for them to be able to afford 200k plus per session from 25k she was paying before

izzou:
[color=royalblue]But Nigeria is a funny place sha

So, the stunt that was pulled in Rivers during the presidential elections just went like that..[/color]

I trust Nigerian politicians , they will take a cue from the fallout of this election and will do everything worse than Wike and other “winners” in 2023 did to win elections in their respective constituencies in the next general elections . A precedent has been set . Since voters intimidation, voters suppression and victimization cannot be proven in the tribunal or form enough ground to overturn a general election ; it can only get worse from here .

I only pity in advance those that will be used as collateral damage in such future elections .

Theflint1:
EndSARS protesters he said he was so angry with that he felt like running them over with his car because they were causing traffic?

That is why I said he's unstable more than elements like Plutonium , uranium and co.

donjazzet:
To which my stance on that is well known. People wanted SARS to end, I wanted it to be completely reformed. I was pro law enforcement, still am.
That police is very corrupt doesn't mean we should eliminate them completely. That's throwing the baby with the bathwater, it will be worse and that was my belief.

U just claimed peaceful protest always works and I pointed it to u that ENDSARS was peaceful. It was so peaceful that governors joined the protesters at different protest grounds across the country. How did it end? In Violence!

The Law enforcement u claim to be Pro has vowed to never any of such protests happen again. So u see, u are barking a wrong tree

donjazzet:
Well, that's the ultimate sacrifice for any human being. Millions of soldiers who fought Nazis are largely forgotten but they saved the world. One's efforts at sacrificing himself on the alter of a good and noble cause will always be heroic. Whether recognised or not.

But this point is mute seeing as I'm not actually calling for violent protest in this case. I'm calling for a peaceful one. An absolutely peaceful one. #occupyNigeria. Throughout history, peaceful protests has worked, we can't all see this blatant injustice and fold our hands and accept it. Constantly accepting rubbish from these politicians is what has brought us here.

Except of course ENDSARS protests (Which u were against and didn't hesitate to tell us "I told u so"

donjazzet:
The funny thing is, I'm not even saying Obi should have led a protest. I'm saying that he should have at least kept his mouth shut and I still stand by that. There is no law that can hold obi for incitement if he really didn't do that and even sef, if obi did tell his supporters to protest and stand up for their right and at every point emphasized for absolute peace and nonviolence but just strength through numbers, no one can hold him. This is not the military administration. That's the beauty of having a democracy.

But I'm still saying that rather than obi telling his supporters to be calm, he should have just kept shut, no one can do shit to him.

And yeah, there would be people who would be ready to sacrifice a lot including their life for the sake of their country. Yes, it might not work, and yes it could also work, but one thing is assured, if nobody does anything, nothing can happen. We can only know if things work by doing something, by triggering the action.

Why is Donald Trump's mugshot on the internet today ?

donjazzet:
Fvcking whatever! However it went, peaceful, violent. So far as this wicked people knew that it was human beings they were dealing with not robots.

We all knew the nigerian judiciary was useless. We all knew nothing good will come out of it, my anger still remains with Obi who called for calm. He's the reason I don't even post anything political here again. He sold us out.

The public should have gone out and protested this robbery while it was hot.

Typical u and ur emotions.

So if people had gone to protest and the army rolled out tanks to meet them with hundreds of people losing their lives it doesn't matter?

Even if the protest would've led to Obi being arrested for treason it doesn't really matter to u?

MKO Abiola that was even popularly adjudged to have won the 1993 election died in incarceration while fighting for his mandate. U must think Obi was not reasonable enough to have learnt a thing or two from history of this country

donjazzet:
We saw this coming a mile away. I still blame Obi who decided to reign in his supporters who wanted to protest the rigging while it was hot.

What do u think the protest would've achieved?

Now that the tribunal has affirmed Tinubu as duly elected president( irrespective of whatever individual reservations we have about the outcome of the elections ) and the clear handwriting on the wall that the Supreme Court will do same , for the sake of our democracy I hope the following will happen :

1. That members of PDP, LP (bar Apapa Faction who will most likely collapse structure for APC ) and smaller political parties should come together to form a mega party.

2. The newly formed mega party should assume the role of the main opposition party and should offer constructive criticism of the actions of the government/ruling party going forward ( as it is expected in modern democracy )

3. The ruling APC government on the other hand should not stifle the opposition, make attempt to obliterate the Opposition party neither should they see genuine criticism as “wailing “ like the Buhari government did which landed us in this economic cesspit we find ourselves as a nation today.

4. The ruling APC government should not continue the alienating culture of seeing things from the lens of “them vs Us “ going forward , so the history of what happened in the first republic will not repeat itself (which will be fatal in this present day )

iamoyindamola:
Them say na tyrant
This kind person fit inject you no look am

People like that dey almost everywhere .

Na so our principal no allow my set for secondary school wear Trousers for SSS 3 out of sheer wickedness

iamoyindamola:
As they reinstate him I know them go reach agreement one way or another

Na money matters , nothing personal .

Roland17:
Pesin send this pic to me and I nearly fall from chair

The Yesu killed me

iamoyindamola:
This week dan sign contract again 🤣🤣🤣
Omo money over anything

I just dey look people last month when dem dey talk say PSG will make him seat on the bench for a whole year ….. Dem no know anything .

The boy don hammer for life .

iamoyindamola:
Yes e dan Tay way they news they gather
Be like village people just remember the guy now
This news na before season start sef I think toward the end of last season

Wetin dey enter those boys head sef? E be like the devil just wan deal with Man Utd and their wingers

iamoyindamola I dey see news about Man utd's Antony assaulting his GF na true?

airmark:
We all know he travelled for a meeting. Where did Obi go?

I don't know.

Amigoss:
Technicalities merchants..

See as Justice voice dey shaky and he is stuttering...

Frauds!!!!!

What were u expecting before? U thought Nigerian judges will upturn election the fraudulent INEC use billions of naira to conduct?

The only reason why I wanted the election to be contested at the courts is for posterity sake and to get different parties to admit to some issues they were skipping around during the electoral process.

For example the issue of $460k dollars forfeiture that was always denied during the campaign period, it was admitted in Court that it did happen and not a rumour (like we were made to believe here)

airmark:
Why is Obi not present?

Tinubu sef no go na

afrodoc2:
You also have to remember that while all this was going on the federal government had jailed Awolowo for sedition and treasonable felony, while everybody knew that their real goal was to snatch the West from him.

Yeah. I have read that part, the NPC really went hard on AG in the west and they found a willing ally in SL Akintola.

They even created Mid-Western region out of the West despite the West being the smallest of the 3 original regions; all just to reduce the influence of Awolowo's AG at the Federal level

donjazzet:
Nahh, I really need to lay hands on this book. It's too rich in information.

But do you have a firm belief that these information are totally factual and unbiased?

Well I was not there to witness the events but the book was published in 1981 and the author is one of the 3 leaders of the 1966 coup.

All he did in the book was give his own account of events in Nigeria pre-independence, the political intrigues of the first republic and factors that necessitated himself and other young officers of the Nigerian Army to step-in to attempt seizing power.

You know it's his own account ; so we may have people who don't agree with his account sha. But I can tell u that some of the stuff I've read in other books about the first republic I have verified that agree with his account. For example how the Population Census of 1961 was rejected by Tafawa Balewa Government because it didn't favour the North and new one was ordered in 1963 just to enusre the North has more Legislative Seats in government .

The more I read this book , I just can’t help but shake my head at the fact that our present leaders (who are mostly elderly people who lived through those times ) did not learn much from history with the way they handle things in present day Nigeria 🤦‍♂️

daveP:
I dunno what his plan is later on but i suspect he gave Odegaard the freedom to stay central. I watched analysis and it shows teta read their setup. There was a big loop in the centre due to how utd were playing. I want to relaazzz cos now i can admit he knows Kai is playing crap after seeing bench cam.

Let’s just hope he puts his knowledge to action o and start him off the bench after the international break . It’s a thing to know u mess up and it’s another thing to try and amend ur ways to right the wrongs