₦airaland Forum

Segedinho:
Buhari was indeed a "mistaken messiah",who almost everyone taught would liberate us from the captivity of PDP, as at then, just like we were/are in for Obi today.

Humans/policians are uncertain,Obi might even went awry or worse than this administration...

I think don j's shouldn't be crucified for going in all for a change of power irrespective of the terms or chose bw 2 candidates due to his personal belief/trust......

He can only be nailed if he defends Buhari or what he chose even in d face of evidences.......


If Obi had won and maybe went against his promises,it is absolute insane to put me in whatever you dish out when I openly condemns and regret my tenacious supports...or speak the truth on his corrupt practices

Ibime:
Except we saw hundreds of videos of the shooting and even videos from people in their apartment videoing everything

This is the moment the shooting started with protestors standing right in front of the soldiers watching them shoot in the air and not feeling threatened. It's all on video

You can only stitch together what happened later that night with Police to add validity to your claim but as far as that initial incident, that was normal army procedure of shooting in the air to disperse crowd. I no outsource my brain.

Ibime:
That's some low blow by BlueRaydick

I'm never against ENDSARS. I was against the physically impossible lie that automatic guns were aimed at a packed crowd of hundreds of thousands people all holding camera phones for 20 minutes, with rapid fire artillery aimed at them and somehow thousands of bodies didn't drop. Infact all camera phones couldn't capture more than one injury from what I saw

He still believe that clown shyt till today. Hold your leaders accountable doesn't mean you should practice self delusion and put emotions over logic.

iamoyindamola:
So you see the lawyers are right to walk out 🤣🤣
This guy na giran

Lawyers invited Portable for their event and this happened:pic.twitter.com/1a2TNbIsbO

— Instablog9ja (@instablog9ja) August 31, 2023

Olowunl01:
My chairman wetin dey sup? your post lately has some taint of vexation

My take on this matter is nobody can fix Africa or Nigeria but ourselves, before looking at the west - we should check ourself first; na we dey enable our greedy leaders. Change is happening, 2023
Obidients caused a change, but it seem they are so fixated on the final outcome of the election that they risk failing to capitalise on the huge change and awakening of consciousness achieved.

Like I said during the election, any of the 3 candidates would be a major improvement over Buhari, I still hold that believe.

Also this is going to be controversial - and apologies if I come across as being insensitive to the plight of the average Nigerian but I believe that Tinubu being the President taking decisive decision on both FX & Subsidy was received "better" than if same decision taken by Obi, could be due to better state capture, media capture, political or tribal sentiments, lack of better political opposition, political structure, deft political moves against the loudest political oppositions.

I know it is still early days, lots of mistakes are still going to be made, but I think Nigerians have adjusted in a very shortwhile to very difficult changes, I do hope that these sacrifices are not taken for granted, hence my hope that the Obidient collective and Nigerians in general do not relent in holding government accountable.

donjazzet:
Well I can't help but notice that almost every single proponent of the "free the west" narrative, are those based there. Almost every single one of them, essentially giving the argument the shape of abroadian vs residents, most especially when you factor in that many of the same folks put a spanner in the wheels of revolution.

And then need I highlight that when I voted APC, the PDP were Indeed the oppressors and voting APC then was indeed partially revolutionary in its own way?? I will never understand this "you voted Buhari shtick". And no if I tell you to prove beyond words that I vehemently supported Buhari, you wouldn't and by support, I mean, lobby intensely, defend every policy like laride did, double down on their failure.
Because at this point, it's become a common red herring, to insert that in every argument I make.
Voting APC against the PDP was very justifiable many years ago, the problem is still doing the same after witnessing their monumental failure.

donjazzet:
This is nothing but the truth and exactly the point I made yesterday and you people said I was looking for fight..

Many of the abroadians here who keep shouting here that our leaders are bad and we must hold them accountable and that we should not blame the west for anything wrong with Africa are exactly the same set of people who when they saw how the youths of this country were attempting to carry out a bloodless coup via the ballot and peacefully revolt decided to align with these same class of wicked leaders. So how again are we supposed to hold our leaders accountable when you yourself align with those wicked leaders and adamantly defend them?

Look at afrodoc talking about bad African leadership now, but he's the same person who said the Nigerian youths seeking a new leadership and a revamp of the political structure were zombies and brainless mobs, so what else are we talking about? Who is deceiving who? Should we talk about dayo who radically defends anything APC but at the same time says nigeria will never get better no matter what?

Last I checked, some of these abroadians talking about this west issues were those who repeatedly told us that no matter what we ever did, nigeria can never get better. Nigeria is doomed forever. I tell you you look at the mindset of some these abroadians and you see something evil in their outlook towards their countrymen here. None of them throughout yesterday attempted to acknowledge that yes, the colonizers did cause soo much extensive damage to Africa, they're eager to tell you to move on but not eager to highlight the extreme damage done by the colonizers, that's not balanced. Not one bit.

daveP:
Last UCL team for Arsenal.


Who do you think will walk in to this current Arsenal team without 2nd thoughts? And vice versa too?


Glad we back. Only Arsenal can hinder Arsenal.

afrodoc2:
During colonial times the West was definitely the primary driver of African underdevelopment, and it can be argued that the haphazard balkanization and union of disparate ethnic groups set the stage for the perpetuation of many of the problems faced today. The problem is that until time travel becomes a reality most of the damage done by the West can't be corrected. Most of the problems faced by Africa TODAY are caused by Africans, in particular African leaders, and trying to pin the problems we face mainly on the West shows extreme lack of accountability.

Itsrm:
Nah, Portable is in a league of his own. He's ghetto and razz in a way you can't find in Burna, Wiz or Davido. He's not refined, rash and has been in the news for a lot of wrong reasons. If it's not claiming to be a member of a deadly cult group in Ikorodu,(One chance boys I think), he's harrasing police officers.

I don't necessarily agree with the lawyers walking away. I certainly would not have done that but I understand why some of them would have felt a certain kind of way.

Itsrm:
BlueRayDick, wetin your man do lawyers 😂

https://www.nairaland.com/7824264/portable-performs-nba-concert-lawyers

donjazzet:
What book is this?

nihilistjnr:
Asia is generally a more homogeneous continent than Africa.

Bundling up incompatible cultures and calling it one country is the bane of most African countries.

Nigeria is going NOWHERE in its current state, and that's a best case scenario. Its more likely that the country disintegrates sometime in the near future after being pulled every which way by ethnic rivalry.

And I do blame the colonisers for that.

Ibime:
You go explain tire, no evidence

You just blamed West for calling Naija election credible despite Mama Chinedu being beaten

Shey we were here when Tinubu was attacking EU for saying the opposite?

iamoyindamola:
Blueraydick I think they are practising incest in this domina
Gaius want to marry his sister's daughter and also give out his daughter to marry his sister's son just to strengthen the family bloodline
The whole arrangement confuse me

Ibime:
So West should invade you over Mama Chinedu affair or what?

Do you get involved every time children are squabbling over rubber band and trinkets?

BlueRaydick that probably celebrated when EU found fault with the election now saying West declared it free and fair.

Africans never know wetin dey worry us. We go dey alright las las.

Roland17:
Once again, I am not Dayo's guardian nor his social media sitter. Dayo is not the reason I joined this forum or the reason I have chosen to remain on this forum/ thread.

I have said this before and I will say it again, me and Dayo agree on some things and disagree on a lot of things. I do not owe you any evidence of my position or arguments against Dayo in those instances and respectfully ask that you stop involving me in this irresponsible habit.

If you are obsessed with Dayo and his position, keep addressing it with him.

liveLongNprospa:
According to Google search, Ganduje is currently 73yrs old.
Lets assume apc does 8yrs, he will be 81.

His day in court una

novia22:
Kilishi noodles.

larride:
Ganduje won't be APC chairman for 8yrs and his position doesn't even have immunity.

The former accountant general under an APC govt was tried and suspended from office for fraud and racketeering.

It won't be the first time that efcc will go after a man from the same ruling party.

This thing is not difficult now. He will have his day in court simply means one day one day, he will have to defend himself in court.

Alison Madueke for 8yrs of Buhari administration was enjoying herself lowkey in UK, is it not the same UK that are now charging her with bribery and corruption during her time as Petroluem minister and "she will have her day in court"?

Make una no dey turn simple and clear statement into something else as if you are just hearing it for the first timer.

Itsrm:
This is why they say once you find yourself in a hole, don't dig deeper

Itsrm:
So who is to say Buhari didn't deceive Tinubu

A40:
What people need to understand as IBB the grand daddy of coups has posited in his interviews. Coups rarely happen in isolation, it is either the army is disgruntled or the people are disgruntled and it makes it easier for coups to happen.

Let's see how many countries AU or ECOWAS can invade at once.

When people clamor for credible elections and solid institutions it is for avoidance of things like this. The army are not fools, even if gullible supporters of these dictators think they can get away with sham elections remember they still require the help of the military to pull it off

This is not about whether military rule or coups are a good thing. It's about the so called civilian rulers to sit up and recognize they will be the next victim if they keep misusing their powers

raumdeuter:
The West fraternize with any leader you choose in your country as long as it doesnt harm their interest simple.

So you expect the West to go and sponsor a coup to unseat Biya when the Camerounians keep voting him?

afrodoc2:
I mean why does HE have access to it? Has he not been arrested or they have not gained access to his residence yet?

afrodoc2:
I think say dem don kpai the guy sef? How the guy take get access to internet? Person wey suppose dey fan alaye for cell already?

raumdeuter:
How do they fraternize with them and what were they supposed to do? The west is being blamed for unseating Gadaffi and in the same vein bein blamed for not unseating Biya

Every country handle themselves the way they like as long as you don't interfere or threaten them like Gadaffi did when he sponsored terrorists to bomb a plane at Lockerbie

chidekings:
the way you defend this gay thing.......come clean man,are u gay?

I am Ali Bongo Ondimba, President of Gabon and I want to send a message to all the friends that we have all over the world, to tell them to make noise, to make noise for the people here have arrested me and my family.

My son is somewhere, my wife is in another place and right now, I am at the residence and I don't know what's happening. I don't know what's going on and I am calling you to make noise, to make noise, to make noise really, I am thanking you.

Thank you.

chrisooblog:
Military are not tired of the shit show anything. They just don't access to the national pie or they are greedy and want more.