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iamoyindamola:
The same west that saw when a thug was threatening mama chinedu not to come out to vote

raumdeuter:
If death does not take him there is a huge chance that in the next 20yrs Putin will still be Russian president

It's the same West that Africans love to hate that will actually push for Democracy not Russia, not North Korea, not Saddam Iraq, Not Egypt Mubarak and not Libyas Gaddafi

"The President of Cameroon Paul Biya traveled to France to celebrate his 40 years in power. The Cameroonians in France went to the scene, they destroyed his Cakes and other decorations. They wanted to kill the man but he managed to escape. One of his ministers was not so lucky as… pic.twitter.com/z7dEtUIkqr

— Switchild #Dadiyata #Ifulikevote4morehungerin2027 (@ehimaggie) August 29, 2023

nihilistjnr:
You excluded the part where Ali Bongo (what a name by the way) got the senate to agree to a law that allows him to APPOINT senators. Yes, APPOINT senators.

There's something about central Africans that is just insane. If you look at Gabon's neighbours, there's a very lamentable trend to be observed:

Cameroon- Paul Biya - President since 1982 till date

Equatorial Guinea - Theodoro Nguema - President since 1979 till date

Central African Republic - Jean Bedel Bokassa ruled from 1966 to 1979...this one even coronotated himself as Emperor Bokassa I of Central Africa (Google it)

Burundi - Pierre Nkurunziza - President from 2005 until his death in 2020

DR Congo - Mobutu Sese Seko ruled 1965 -1997,deposed in a coup by Laurent Kabila 1997-2001, whose son Joseph then ruled from 2001 - 2019, after his father's assassination.

Congo Brazaville - Dennis Ngueso - President from 1979 till date.


These people are literally insane.

donjazzet:
Actually you didn't, you cowardly hid under the banner of "it's our written law so all must abide" to hide your seeming bigotry and hatred against these innocent people.

You hide under the laws because you support those hateful and dehumanizing laws. That's very shameful forn individual who has shown capacity for deep intellect. You should be strongly ashamed of yourself for this.

BlueRayDick:
The totality of our culture , history, traditions and values is against homosexuality. I don't know the part of Nigeria u are from, but the part of Nigeria I come from homosexuality's is repugnant to us(very very very distasteful act). Our laws are a reflection of our history, culture and traditions. So yes! I am against homosexuality and I support our law enforcement agents clamping down on those guys u are empathizing with.

All those shalaye u put up there na superstory.

popizaino:
The news sweet my belle die.

donjazzet:
These set of laws Below were widely popular in Germany at the time. Do you think these laws you see below were fair and justified? What do you think about these codified laws which were indeed acceptable and popular to the masses at the time?

Amigoss:
Another coup by Russia and wagner

iamoyindamola:
This sounds so personal Una they fight🤣🤣

donjazzet:
A lot of things are repugnant to a lot of people, still doesn't justify dehumanizing them and outrightly killing them.

Once upon a time, our culture also hated twin babies and saw them as evil and slaughtered them in their millions. Millions of innocent babies murdered in cold blood. our culture also hated albinos and killed them outrightly.
Our culture saw women as subhuman and just as properties of men.

"Our culture" is not the supreme guide you make it to be, it's not infallible. As a matter of fact, hoping for us to continue to do things the way we have been doing it for a thousand years is not the Flex you think it is.
Having to fall upon "culture" as a defense to hate on your fellow human beings who only want to be left alone and have no desire to inflict harm is cowardly.

And most importantly, these people are not foreigners, they are born and bred here, you cannot make them prisoners of their place of birth, they have no where else but this land to call their home, you can't chase them away simply because they want to live their lives the way they see fit. One without intent of harm. They have right to life just as much as you, the only time that right can ever be taken from them is if they deprive any other of their own rights.

Punishing them is oppression because they are different and it is not right, neither is it fair.

donjazzet:
Blueray, these laws below are part of our own laws, do you personally agree with these laws and do you wish to preserve the statusquo or do you rather prefer they were changed even if maybe you were in the minority?

Section 6 of the criminal code says marital rape is not an offence because rape cannot happen within a marriage.

Under section 26 and 26 of the nigerian constitution, a Nigerian woman who marries a foreigner does not grant her foreign partner nigerian citizenship, on the other hand, if a Nigerian man marries a foreign partner, his partner is automatically conferred a Nigerian citizenship.

Section 55 of the nigerian labor law bans women from working in the night except the woman is a nurse.

Section 353 of the criminal code states that sexual assualt on a woman is categorized as a minor infraction and bears no longer than 2 years in jail regardless of the degree.

Then lets talk about negligence of the law or rather, things that are legal to do in nigeria but illegal in other places. Female genital mutilation, a common practice where the female sex organ is deformed as a traditional practice. Marriage arrangements, one where the girl child is given away to a husband by her parents.
Underage child bride. Still very legal. There are many other such Nigerian laws that are archaic and belongs in the past.

Now with all these i ask you again, do you agree with all the laws of your country? Are there laws you wish to see changed in order for your society to evolve to a better one or are you a strong advocate for the status quo? because your position on this seem to be that the law is supreme and we must be resigned to it even even when obviously wrong, even though historical evidence presents to us where the law has been weaponised against fellow citizens.

For example, Your argument rings through with Americans who weaponised the law to suppress the rights and dignity of their fellow citizens. Blacks were legally 3\5th of a human being, interracial marriage was illegal. Interracial sex was illegal with severe punishments. Segregation of races were legal and codified.

One could say that these were indeed "a reflection" of the majority of the society but did that make that, right and moral?? Do you think the people who advocated for and passed those laws did the right thing? When you genuinely answer that question, you see how you've basically buried your conscience and taken the cowardly position of hiding under the law even when that law directly stamps against the fundamental human rights of your fellow countrymen. You enjoy their dehumanization because it doesn't affect you and that is morally unconscionable. Its wicked and not right.

donjazzet:
My heart sunk watching this.

Will nigeria ever evolve in our lifetime? These young men brought no harm to anyone, they didn't inflict pain or incur damage to a single soul, so why are they being humiliated for expressing themselves the way they see fit??

Conservatism has always aligned with hypocrisy. You react badly to people different from you simply because you don't understand them.

Nobody deserves this kind of treatment simply because they want to live their lives freely. And if you support this kind of public humiliation and embarrassment for these people who just seek to live a merry life and nothing else, you are an ignorant fool sorry to say.

My heart goes out to these victims of injustice, they suffer the disease of an ignorant and hateful society. It's just soo unfortunate. In advanced society, these people would live a fruitful and happy life without having to deal with this stigma. So so sad. I deeply empathize with them and what they are going through. May they pass through this ordeal successfully.

The quote tweets are actually a sort of consolation. It's heartening reading the comments condemning the police for the gross violation of these peoples fundamental human rights. Gives hope of our future.

Tochex101:
Coup d'etat in Gabon.....Ali bongo ousted.
#breaking news/developing story.

Ibime:
How many Saheed done buy Benz?

Emaprince:
I noticed it too.

May be because Tinubu wanted to influence edo elections with money since Osho na him boy, cornvicts now are the most pained when they hear it. Even on this thread, I have seen it most times where some of them will use it to garnish a sentence even when it is irrelevant to the discourse.

TrebleChamp:
Tompolo cash out during Jonathan tenor, Fulani Herdsmen cash out during Buhari tenor. It is Asari Dokubo's time to cash out in Tinubu tenor.

larride:
Them suppose tie you for market and flog you repeatedly for your hypocrisy.

You were asked the same question and you said you dont know what you are going to do then turn around to call Doyin Okupe a coward for dealing with the situation in his own way.

Why not take the stand you want Doyin Okupe to take instead of saying you don't know?

That you don't even see the hypocrisy in your post dey gimme headache.

raumdeuter:
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search for their names here

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if you find the names
the below are the next steps

And if you already know this information or its not useful kindly ignore and sorry for spamming you

Amoto94:
Someone who did want to abort his supposed baby after supporting abortion and championing the cause of abortionists as a liberal, Don J will only deceive those who are naive and ignorant. Don J is just catching cruise with some of his takes deep down he doesn't mean them

larride:
At the bolded, if you simply dont know what you wi do in that situation, why then are you calling Doyin Okupe who is dealing with the situation a coward?

Dont you see how confused you yourself are?

donjazzet:

Which kain Amala be this?
What does that have to do this? Fine I've edited my post, Oya reply me.

Emaprince:
Guy!!! I have one question :

So who Is GAY??!!!

donjazzet:
Still waiting on your answer BluRay.

seankafor:
you know talk they say is cheap and reality is often disappointing..

I'll just leave it at that 👆

donjazzet:
It's not a simple and straight question because I had to let you understand exactly what you were asking me, with its nuances.

I have told you that it isn't against my personal principle, if I find myself in Europe, I'm sure this wouldn't even be an issue at all, but if I'm in nigeria I recognise how big an issue this would be (because of my ignorant society).

Okupe is indeed a good example, his son who is gay now lives abroad and his father is doing his thing here. His father has chosen to distance himself from his son. That is cowardice (but understandable).
Would I do the same, I simply don't know.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I always saw you as a man of peace.

Na wa!

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donjazzet:
I wanted to give a very direct answer and just flat out say that my answer to this is just hinged upon the environment where I am but that answer will be testament to my cowardice in caring about opinions of people around me but me recognising the inevitability of it.

But that wouldn't do justice to your question so let me give you a much better answer. At least for the purpose of general enlightenment.
Your question is specific as to gender roles and identity and then sexual orientation of "my son". Well, to answer your question from a "personal principle" point of view, I will first tell you this, gender roles (what women and men are supposed to wear, eat and behave in a specific society) are a human construct.

For example, think about this, in our society, women are the ones who are supposed to be braid their hair and style it while the men are supposed to cut it neatly even though a man and a woman's hair grows exactly the same. Today in our society, earrings have become a bit more popular for men, it is now more common to see men who pierce their ears or nose like davido, Wizkid and Ronaldo but just 20 years ago, any man who pierced his ears was seen as a "devilish" person because of our highly conservative society. Earrings were seen as an only women accessory even though it has basically been gender neutral many years ago. Talking about lipstick and makeup, 200 years ago in Europe, makeup was basically a class thing for the elite, the aristocrats and the royalty. Rich and Noble men wore wigs (today's lawyers wig) and makeup to signify their flamboyance and high status. Being bald was almost seen as a taboo or rather something for the poor and weak in society. Also 100 years ago in Europe, it was basically forbidden for women to wear trousers, trousers was seen as a cloth for only men while women were supposed to wear only long skirts, this was due to religious conservatism, today those standards have been dropped. Also when you factor in that some Scottish, monogolian and some African societies, their men basically wore skirt (or tied wrappers) or an absence of trousers, you see how funny it is that later we decided that skirts were for women only.

Why am I giving you these examples? It's to show you how our standards are constantly changing and evolving. So for one to constrain one's child to only what society deems fit at the time at the expense of the individuals freedom and happiness would be a selfish thing to do. But one I know I might indeed be due to fear of mockery and ostracization from my largely ignorant society in which I find myself.

As for his sexuality, again my main concern will be his happiness and fulfilment in life, if he finds a partner who makes him happy and loves him and he loves that person but that person is of same sex, it would be incredibly selfish of me to hamper that fulfilment and happiness of him because of what everyone around me would say and the shame that that would bring to me and my household because an ignorant and hateful society decides that it's a very terrible thing for 2 people in love with themselves are supposed to be constrained by virtue of their gender.

Now if your question is if I would indeed decide to be selfish and hamper my child's happiness and potentially cut him off from me because of the societal standards, if I would be a coward and a selfish person who abandons my child because I seek validation from my surroundings, truthfully I cannot answer honestly until that time comes. But I certainly hope I will be strong enough for my child to back him up against all odds.

iamoyindamola:
Darlington once asked him if any of his children start behaving like a dog will he leave the child or intervene
Guess what


https://www.nairaland.com/7186774/epl-chatroom-all-discussions/2566#123195350

Ibime:
lol. Una never still understand this matter

This ain't about a kiss, a hug or anything. Things like this happen spontaneously during moments of celebration.

There's a civil war going on there. The players want the coach out for the last 2 years. Rather than sack the coach, the President gave ultimatum to 15 players who went on strike to either return or be suspended for 5 years. 12 of them never returned and the ones playing still hate the coach. Including many of the players who didn't raise official complaint. Their issues stem from the coach being an ultra disciplinarian who makes them leave their doors open till 12am to monitor their sleeping habits, monitors their movements on days off, and other funny behaviours

The coaches father is also a big man in Spanish football politics and the President is parapo with the coach. If they clear out the President, then they can get to the coach

The President was just one misstep away from a setup and he fell into it. He then compounded it by telling lies of what Hermoso said.

The coach instead of keeping quiet has now thrown the President under the bus, knowing that President has men in the FA. The President is only in this situation for backing the coach in the first place and if I'm him, I'll get my stooges in the FA to investigate the coachs behaviours, let us both fall together.